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shakermaker 20-10-2006 17:16

The Masterplan
 
Old song, new video...

http://entertainment.msn.co.uk/music...ve/default.asp

You've gotta open it in Internet Explorer but it's worth it.

Always loved the tune, think it's probably one of their greatest. Lyrically it's hard to find a better one.
Anyway, the video is Lowry-esque and Liam's character is hilarious.
Have a scant :D

accymel 20-10-2006 17:42

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Not one of my favourite songs is time coming up for Oasis now hehehe nice to see lowry in movement i'suppose in fits the manchester theme, & again typically beatles theme lol

shakermaker 20-10-2006 18:21

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I feared the worst when the best of was announced, but as it turns out it's a release by the label, not by the band.
The label are all shirty that Oasis aren't extending their contract with Sony so they're getting all they can out of them before their contract ends (probably onto their own label).
Noel has said in NME & a few other mags that they've got about 2 albums worth of stuff already written so I shouldn't think they'll be quitting anytime soon :)
I've hoped for a Noel Gallagher solo album for a while but I think the time has been and gone for that.

spud 21-10-2006 08:40

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Watching one of the music chanels yesterday i heard aquiese, i thought only time i've seen a vid of this is when they played maine road...

As it went it was a far eastern jap/chinaman/thai...you get the gist doing the roll as liam! It was must watch stuff and very entertaining, i watched the entire song to see if Liam appeared, did he?...that would be telling;)

shakermaker 21-10-2006 10:44

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Nah the band aren't in either of the new videos.
The Acquiesce video is a bit nuts, with all the Japs & all.
Acquiesce & The Masterplan were always those songs 'that should have been a-sides' ...I dunno if they should have been left that way.
But oh well. What's done is done. Yet another record company effectively ageing a band a few years.

mthead 21-10-2006 11:17

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Pure class:) Think It'll be quite a while before any other band comes along with that sort of talent.:)

spud 22-10-2006 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
Nah the band aren't in either of the new videos.
The Acquiesce video is a bit nuts, with all the Japs & all.
Acquiesce & The Masterplan were always those songs 'that should have been a-sides' ...I dunno if they should have been left that way.
But oh well. What's done is done. Yet another record company effectively ageing a band a few years.

If only they'd a put out Rocking Chair.................

spud 22-10-2006 00:27

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For those folk that havn't had the pleasure, B side to roll with it...absolute magic!

shakermaker 22-10-2006 12:03

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Apparently there's been stand-up arguments with the band over the non-inclusion of Rockin' Chair, it's a scandal!

The tracklist as picked by the band is...

Rock n Roll Star
Some Might Say
Talk Tonight
Lyla
The Importance of Being Idle
Wonderwall
Slide Away
Cigarettes & Alcohol
The Masterplan
Live Forever
Acquiesce
Supersonic
Half The World Away
Go Let It Out
Songbird
Morning Glory
Champagne Supernova
Don't Look Back In Anger

There's quite a few I'd like to see on there such as Underneath The Sky, but I suppose for future generations, this tracklist shows 'classic' Oasis.

spud 22-10-2006 21:19

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Well said, but i stand by what i say, Rocking chair is one of their finest pieces of material...for those haven't heard it...go out of your way and do it, it's a great acoustic/vocal tune!

shakermaker 22-10-2006 21:20

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He's bloody right you know

Robdunn24 25-10-2006 21:56

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lol maybe sony are getting rid of them because they was ''in, in the 90's "

They only did one good record and that was the first album ( apart from the b-sides that always seemed to be better )

shakermaker 25-10-2006 22:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robdunn24
lol maybe sony are getting rid of them because they was ''in, in the 90's "

They only did one good record and that was the first album ( apart from the b-sides that always seemed to be better )

Firstly, Oasis said they wouldn't sign on to Sony again.
Sony are not 'getting rid'.
Secondly, if Sony thought they were rubbish, they would not be releasing their best of to cash in before they leave their contract.:rolleyes:

Robdunn24 25-10-2006 22:31

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it was a joke dude

spud 26-10-2006 10:52

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I'm staying out of this one.;)

shakermaker 26-10-2006 10:56

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Probably a wise idea Spud!
I had Stop The Clocks on yesterday & I must say that the tracklist is very well done. Looking at the order on paper doesn't seem that fantastic (Talk Tonight to Lyla?!?) but it plays really well.
A very well spent hour & half :D

mthead 28-10-2006 18:00

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PMSL,The video's brilliant and like you said Shaker Liam's swaggering little animated chap is quite funny:) :)

meerkat 02-11-2006 18:21

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Oasis are appalling and ls lowry is over-rated nuff said

shakermaker 02-11-2006 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meerkat
Oasis are appalling and ls lowry is over-rated nuff said

No reasoning, just big statements to make you look big.
Yes?
No.
It doesn't work.
Try having a proper opinion, failing that, bog off.

maxwell silver 02-11-2006 19:25

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Sorry Shaker,but the great battle of britpop in the mid 90's was won hands down by Blur.More musical talent & inventiveness,and that was just the drummer.Oasis are/were a one trick pony,nicked everyones back catologue,got Liam to whine "raaaaiiiiin,sheeiiiiine"over the top,dressed it up with some manc swagger & stone island gear and a million kids desperatley looking for a new scene after Madchester/aceeed fell for it.Okay i thought Definately Maybe was a great album,but the initial exitement soon vanished with the follow up.Give me The Gorrillaz anytime.I know your a big time Oasis fan & this is only my personal view,so don't be offended.I'm dissin the band ,not you.

shakermaker 02-11-2006 20:08

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That's fair enough maxwell, you've got a reasoned opinion & I respect that.

Still....Morning Glory outsold The Great Escape 15 million to 1 and Oasis are still going making great albums that keep their fans wanting more. Granted, Be Here Now & Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants were rubbish.
Damon Albarn is just a cartoon for crying out loud :p
I've got loads of time for Graham Coxon though - his solo stuf is way under rated.

stanerlee 02-11-2006 20:16

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the video will win awards. true genius!!!

maxwell silver 02-11-2006 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
That's fair enough maxwell, you've got a reasoned opinion & I respect that.

Still....Morning Glory outsold The Great Escape 15 million to 1

Doesn't mean the music on Morning Glory was anyway better,Oasis just had a bigger fan base.And Albarns a cartoon?Nuff' said.

shakermaker 02-11-2006 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwell silver
Doesn't mean the music on Morning Glory was anyway better,Oasis just had a bigger fan base

It's true that selling loads of records doesn't mean you're any good (look at Phil Collins) but Blur always seemed too fake to me, especially with the sudden lads attitude that they adopted after Oasis emerged (the track Girls and Boys for example). Oasis don't have to try, they're down to earth & honest which is personally what I like from a band.

stanerlee 02-11-2006 20:37

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sorry shaker but girls and boys was before the emergence of oasis!!!

shakermaker 02-11-2006 20:54

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Hardly, there was all the hype, a demo released on an NME cassette & Supersonic released a couple of weeks later. Not to mention all the live gigs in '93

(and my compulsive need to be right :p)

Anyway, the point is...Oasis are immense, always have been always will be :D

stanerlee 02-11-2006 21:04

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mate, they were on the musical radar in early 94 but nothing major and certainly not a threat to blur at that point.
Blur went all laddie in 92/93 when "modern life is rubbish" was released.
Hardly attributable to Oasis.

shakermaker 02-11-2006 21:05

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ssshhhhhhhhh!!!

Anyway back to topic, the vid is the muts nuts I'm sure most of you will agree, and the song is a stonker.
Can't wait to hear some new material soon ;)

stanerlee 03-11-2006 07:17

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in the great musical debate of 95 between oasis and blur what did i do???

I sat on the fence basking in the sunshine that was one of the greatest moments in british music. BRITPOP, where every band and every song was a winner. Them were the days sonny (nostalgic).

actually i was in bosnia as a squaddie with my mum sending me NME and ringing my mates to find out what CD's to send. Bless her, at least i didn't miss out.

class video shaker, indeed and has revived the old tune well!!!

meerkat 03-11-2006 18:35

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Ill pontificate-and it wasnt a personal attack by any means shakermaker, you are young and this oasis thing will pass.
Oasis as a band are and were a conservative reaction to the aceeed house scene -Have you not heard of the term "dad rock"? Noel Gallagher comes across as ill informed, ill educated and downright spiteful in my opinion in interviews. He also supports New labour and therefore by proxy supports the war in iraq.Not that he has a proper political thought in his head, like all of britpop and "Cool britiannia" it was all posturing and ultimately a dreary reactionary bore.
The lyrics of the majority of Oasis songs are of a nonsensical nursery rhyme nature-good example being "I know a girl called elsa she's into alka seltzer" words written to fit in after gallagher has provaricated over which 3 out the 5 chords he can play hes using for his drudge.
Alex Petridis who is a fantastic music writer despises oasis as do most musical commentators-ipso facto it was Petridis who i nicked the "dreary reactionary bore" comment.
Anyway this is just my view, and not a personal slant in any form.Personally i spent 1992 to 1998 going raving till the backside fell out of that subculture.Best band of (very vaguely) similar nature has to be the happy mondays, at least you could have a groove to them.

shakermaker 03-11-2006 21:00

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Meerkat, Noel Gallagher does not support New Labour at all. He went to number 10 for the free food & because he was using copious amounts of drugs at the time.
Similarly, when he made his famous "Tony Blair will make this country better" speech at the Brits, he was on E.
Personally I think he comes across as very funny and very honest in his interviews, which can only be a good thing.
Oasis didn't ask to be part of Cool Britannia or Britpop or anything like that. That's the media's doing.
So, down to the music it is. For me, it's honest & effortlessly (aside from Be Here Now & Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants....eurgh) great music.
Music is too full of idiots trying to put the meaning of life into 4 minutes. Oasis just make good music & leave the epic literary attempts to people like Embrace.

meerkat 05-11-2006 02:54

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ill pop back tomorrow im really p*ssed and cant think of anything constructive to say less im glad you dont think the new labour thing is positive.
salome
meerkat

Restless 20-04-2012 22:56

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lol shakermaker-- See this is why I remembered you being an oasis fan

Man I was really 'that person' back then. 6 years or so later and I feel so much older and so much more miserable. I almost wish I still had that pretentious part of me there still. I would be playing guitar and writing songs right now instead of writing this post :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 326160)
Firstly, Oasis said they wouldn't sign on to Sony again.
Sony are not 'getting rid'.
Secondly, if Sony thought they were rubbish, they would not be releasing their best of to cash in before they leave their contract.:rolleyes:



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