Joy Division/new Order
 

One for the lads.Which one did you prefer?The manc miserablists and their songs of despair or their reincarnation as electro-dance happy chart toppers.Did you think 'blue monday' was a better song than 'love will tear us apart'.Was Curtis' suicide a blessing in disguise for the rest of the band.To be honest i think New Order just edge it for me as nowadays i find some of JD's stuff difficult to listen to(a couple of songs off 'Closer' anyhow).Or maybe i'm showing my age.From:(to:).

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Joy division - Sure they made you feel like topping yourself but you cant deny they made great music. Almost went beserk when

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When what.....i think we should be told:confused:

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Utter and complete garbage, both of 'em. Listen to a different song called Blue Monday by the mighty Fats Domino and hear what REAL music is like!

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Fair enough.Iquite expected a reply like that from an old time skiffle-billy like yourself.Fats' 'Blue monday' maybe a good tune,but i think were talking a generation or 2 onwards.P.S...did they have synths,samples & anything resembling 'techno' when Fats was giving us more blues than JD could have ever managed.I don't think so.Your quite welcome to your opiion.Dear me,some of the songs i'm on about are nearly 30 years old,i know your an old timer but come on to my generation some of these songs will last forever.

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Works of the devil!...electrickery!

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I'd have to go for Joy Division.
Not one of my favourite bands at all but Transmission, Ceremony & Love Will Tear Us Apart are great songs.

I despise Blue Monday & in turn can't stand any New Order songs.

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Century 21 coming to a town near you soon:DNo offence.

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Actually, you're probably right there, Manchester is about a hundred yards away at the bottom of the street. However, it's strictly 50's/60's stuff (and bands who play in that idiom) in this house. And what's all this "no offence" stuff? Like yourself, I came up in a tough school (Ralph Bailey's), so please feel free to give me all the "offence" you want! ;)

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[ And what's all this "no offence" stuff? Like yourself, I came up in a tough school (Ralph Bailey's), so please feel free to give me all the "offence" you want! ;)[/quote]
Well like yourself then you were taught to show the older gener ation some respect.You old git,every offence intended:D

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That's what we used to call hapless OAPs as they shuffled past the deck 40 years ago. And now I'm one! Bleedin' beat groups...bash, bash, bash, just a noise, that's all it is. Exits stage left to pour another Johnnie Walker. :D

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I loved Transmission. Also can't stand Blue Monday. I must admit though, I prefer New order.

:D

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I prefer Joy Division as the music was still pretty raw .... New Order's 1st album after Ian Curtis (Movement) was very good ...they still sounded like JD but a little smoother round the edges... never really got into the dance techno stuff from them after that.
Wynonie seems to only like the kind of stuff were bods jump on top of pianos screaming stuff like " wap bobolopop a wam bambo" !:D

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Kraftwerk meets rainy Manchester.

It was always going to end in tears.

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That should be "Awopbopaloobopalopbamboom"! If you must quote the mighty Little Richard Penniman, get it right, Mancie!

Incidentally, you Manc music types might care to investigate Vinyl Revival at 5 Hilton Street (just off Oldham Street) next time you're in the metropolis. He seems to have plenty of Smiths/New Order and all that sort of malarky in stock, including posters and t-shirts.

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What's with the 'here's one for the lads' idea? Aren't us women allowed to choose which music we like too?

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thought about this choice long n hard since yesterday morning, and come to the conclusion- there aint a choice- both are crap.:p

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That's pretend Mancs for you...sexist to a man! :D

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Hope you don't think that long before going for one:D

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Indeed you are & i apologies for my rather sexist remark.:o

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I love joy divisions 'love will tear us apart' better than new orders 'blue monday' altho i do like a few of New orders stuff & only like that one of Joy Divisions:D

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Joy Division full stop no contest.

New Order have tried but apart from Thieves like Us, True Faith, Temptation and Everythings Gone Green have failed.

24 Hours, New Dawn Fades, Dead Souls, Atmosphere and Sound of Music will never be equalled.

I agree Gayle not "one for the boys" just one for folks of a certain age :-)

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i am a big new order fan and a post regular on neworderonline.com
we had meet ups in selected pubs before gigs and around 70-80 off the new order website forums would be there.made some great friends from around the country and even people from as far away as brazil,norway would meet for the pre gig and post gig **** ups.i have met the band and again hooky more recently.anyway the latest news is that new order are offically spliting up !!!. some people might think they ended ages ago but they even toured last year,at which i wore a bin laden mask at the blackpool gig and the 4,000 crowd held me on their shoulders:D
a film as been made about ian curtis and his wife and it went down a storm at cannes film festival last month.the film is called 'control'.
joy divison/new order r.i.p

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Get on this.

YouTube - Joy Division Live 1979 transmission&she's lost control

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Shaker normally I hate covers of Joy Division songs but get a load of this
YouTube - new dawn fades=

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Absolutely loved Temptation, but then again I loved Hooky's bass in everything.

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new order singer bernard sumner has just got married.remember to look for the release of the film 'control' about the LATE ian curtis,yea i am certain this singer is dead !!! :D

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WHAT! Ian Curtis is dead?....hope you've got it right this time Spig.. Davy Jones and all that

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I'd have to say Joy Division,cos there would be no New Order if it wasn't for JD,plus, I was a miserable teenaged buggar back then,so yeah JD for me,oh,and 'Something must break' is in my all time top ten favourite songs,I'm still listening to them today,one band I have never grown tired of,I love New order but as someone said earlier they sort of went off the boil during their Ibiza techno phase,still better than most of the inane pap you get in the top 40 nowadays

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and before the joy division
line up we had warsaw