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maxwell silver 02-06-2007 08:28

Joy Division/new Order
 
One for the lads.Which one did you prefer?The manc miserablists and their songs of despair or their reincarnation as electro-dance happy chart toppers.Did you think 'blue monday' was a better song than 'love will tear us apart'.Was Curtis' suicide a blessing in disguise for the rest of the band.To be honest i think New Order just edge it for me as nowadays i find some of JD's stuff difficult to listen to(a couple of songs off 'Closer' anyhow).Or maybe i'm showing my age.From:(to:).

Alvin the chipmunk 02-06-2007 13:08

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Joy division - Sure they made you feel like topping yourself but you cant deny they made great music. Almost went beserk when

maxwell silver 02-06-2007 19:11

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Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 431509)
Joy division - Sure they made you feel like topping yourself but you cant deny they made great music. Almost went beserk when

When what.....i think we should be told:confused:

Wynonie Harris 02-06-2007 19:21

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Utter and complete garbage, both of 'em. Listen to a different song called Blue Monday by the mighty Fats Domino and hear what REAL music is like!

maxwell silver 02-06-2007 19:35

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 431593)
Utter and complete garbage, both of 'em. Listen to a different song called Blue Monday by the mighty Fats Domino and hear what REAL music is like!

Fair enough.Iquite expected a reply like that from an old time skiffle-billy like yourself.Fats' 'Blue monday' maybe a good tune,but i think were talking a generation or 2 onwards.P.S...did they have synths,samples & anything resembling 'techno' when Fats was giving us more blues than JD could have ever managed.I don't think so.Your quite welcome to your opiion.Dear me,some of the songs i'm on about are nearly 30 years old,i know your an old timer but come on to my generation some of these songs will last forever.

Wynonie Harris 02-06-2007 19:53

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Originally Posted by maxwell silver (Post 431597)
did they have synths,samples & anything resembling 'techno'

Works of the devil!...electrickery!

shakermaker 02-06-2007 20:21

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I'd have to go for Joy Division.
Not one of my favourite bands at all but Transmission, Ceremony & Love Will Tear Us Apart are great songs.

I despise Blue Monday & in turn can't stand any New Order songs.

maxwell silver 02-06-2007 20:25

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 431604)
Works of the devil!...electrickery!

Century 21 coming to a town near you soon:DNo offence.

Wynonie Harris 02-06-2007 20:47

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Originally Posted by maxwell silver (Post 431613)
Century 21 coming to a town near you soon:DNo offence.

Actually, you're probably right there, Manchester is about a hundred yards away at the bottom of the street. However, it's strictly 50's/60's stuff (and bands who play in that idiom) in this house. And what's all this "no offence" stuff? Like yourself, I came up in a tough school (Ralph Bailey's), so please feel free to give me all the "offence" you want! ;)

maxwell silver 02-06-2007 21:32

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[ And what's all this "no offence" stuff? Like yourself, I came up in a tough school (Ralph Bailey's), so please feel free to give me all the "offence" you want! ;)[/quote]
Well like yourself then you were taught to show the older gener ation some respect.You old git,every offence intended:D

Wynonie Harris 02-06-2007 21:37

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Originally Posted by maxwell silver (Post 431629)
You old git

That's what we used to call hapless OAPs as they shuffled past the deck 40 years ago. And now I'm one! Bleedin' beat groups...bash, bash, bash, just a noise, that's all it is. Exits stage left to pour another Johnnie Walker. :D

AccyJay 02-06-2007 21:41

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 431611)
I'd have to go for Joy Division.
Not one of my favourite bands at all but Transmission, Ceremony & Love Will Tear Us Apart are great songs.

I despise Blue Monday & in turn can't stand any New Order songs.

I loved Transmission. Also can't stand Blue Monday. I must admit though, I prefer New order.

:D

Mancie 02-06-2007 23:53

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I prefer Joy Division as the music was still pretty raw .... New Order's 1st album after Ian Curtis (Movement) was very good ...they still sounded like JD but a little smoother round the edges... never really got into the dance techno stuff from them after that.
Wynonie seems to only like the kind of stuff were bods jump on top of pianos screaming stuff like " wap bobolopop a wam bambo" !:D

garinda 03-06-2007 00:33

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Kraftwerk meets rainy Manchester.

It was always going to end in tears.

Wynonie Harris 03-06-2007 08:01

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 431651)
Wynonie seems to only like the kind of stuff were bods jump on top of pianos screaming stuff like " wap bobolopop a wam bambo" !:D

That should be "Awopbopaloobopalopbamboom"! If you must quote the mighty Little Richard Penniman, get it right, Mancie!

Incidentally, you Manc music types might care to investigate Vinyl Revival at 5 Hilton Street (just off Oldham Street) next time you're in the metropolis. He seems to have plenty of Smiths/New Order and all that sort of malarky in stock, including posters and t-shirts.

Gayle 03-06-2007 09:22

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What's with the 'here's one for the lads' idea? Aren't us women allowed to choose which music we like too?

pipinfort 03-06-2007 09:43

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new order.......no contest apart from the odd genius joy division track.

cashman 03-06-2007 09:55

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thought about this choice long n hard since yesterday morning, and come to the conclusion- there aint a choice- both are crap.:p

Wynonie Harris 03-06-2007 09:55

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 431692)
What's with the 'here's one for the lads' idea? Aren't us women allowed to choose which music we like too?

That's pretend Mancs for you...sexist to a man! :D

maxwell silver 03-06-2007 13:39

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 431705)
thought about this choice long n hard since yesterday morning, and come to the conclusion- there aint a choice- both are crap.:p

Hope you don't think that long before going for one:D

maxwell silver 05-06-2007 07:29

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 431692)
What's with the 'here's one for the lads' idea? Aren't us women allowed to choose which music we like too?

Indeed you are & i apologies for my rather sexist remark.:o

accymel 05-06-2007 08:25

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I love joy divisions 'love will tear us apart' better than new orders 'blue monday' altho i do like a few of New orders stuff & only like that one of Joy Divisions:D

Stanaccy 07-06-2007 22:10

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Joy Division full stop no contest.

New Order have tried but apart from Thieves like Us, True Faith, Temptation and Everythings Gone Green have failed.

24 Hours, New Dawn Fades, Dead Souls, Atmosphere and Sound of Music will never be equalled.

I agree Gayle not "one for the boys" just one for folks of a certain age :-)

spignific 10-06-2007 00:16

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i am a big new order fan and a post regular on neworderonline.com
we had meet ups in selected pubs before gigs and around 70-80 off the new order website forums would be there.made some great friends from around the country and even people from as far away as brazil,norway would meet for the pre gig and post gig **** ups.i have met the band and again hooky more recently.anyway the latest news is that new order are offically spliting up !!!. some people might think they ended ages ago but they even toured last year,at which i wore a bin laden mask at the blackpool gig and the 4,000 crowd held me on their shoulders:D
a film as been made about ian curtis and his wife and it went down a storm at cannes film festival last month.the film is called 'control'.
joy divison/new order r.i.p

shakermaker 10-06-2007 00:46

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Get on this.

YouTube - Joy Division Live 1979 transmission&she's lost control

Stanaccy 10-06-2007 21:06

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 433330)

Shaker normally I hate covers of Joy Division songs but get a load of this
YouTube - new dawn fades=

egg&chips 10-06-2007 21:30

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Absolutely loved Temptation, but then again I loved Hooky's bass in everything.

spignific 13-07-2007 23:08

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new order singer bernard sumner has just got married.remember to look for the release of the film 'control' about the LATE ian curtis,yea i am certain this singer is dead !!! :D

Mancie 13-07-2007 23:11

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WHAT! Ian Curtis is dead?....hope you've got it right this time Spig.. Davy Jones and all that

Accy Red 03-08-2007 16:05

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I'd have to say Joy Division,cos there would be no New Order if it wasn't for JD,plus, I was a miserable teenaged buggar back then,so yeah JD for me,oh,and 'Something must break' is in my all time top ten favourite songs,I'm still listening to them today,one band I have never grown tired of,I love New order but as someone said earlier they sort of went off the boil during their Ibiza techno phase,still better than most of the inane pap you get in the top 40 nowadays

beechy 03-08-2007 17:41

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and before the joy division
line up we had warsaw


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