Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 912024)

The only one I think it could be is the Cavern which was roughly in that vicinity, and I remember him playing the Jazz club Wyn

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 912037)

The Cavern was where Dupree played, that's where there was a back room. It might have been 63. I was tall for my age so got into places. I might have had my first taste of alcohol there.

It might have been Arcs instead of Hearts? Perhaps I heard it wrong. It might have been just for youngsters on a Friday night maybe? It was either where Dandy mentions or possibly was the church hall further up? One large room with small stage at one end.

Neil Berry was from Roe Greave Road in Ossy, as was Brian Boyd

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 912037)

The Cavern was where Dupree played, that's where there was a back room. It might have been 63. I was tall for my age so got into places. I might have had my first taste of alcohol there.

It might have been Arcs instead of Hearts? Perhaps I heard it wrong. It might have been just for youngsters on a Friday night maybe? It was either where Dandy mentions or possibly was the church hall further up? One large room with small stage at one end.

Neil Berry was from Roe Greave Road in Ossy, as was Brian Boyd

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 912043)

That church hall-type place further up (corner of Whalley Road and York St) did have a youth club, as I remember some lads in my class at AGS used to attend. It had a stage at one end too, as they used to put plays on sometimes.

Arcs was just one room with a stage at one end, although it was more just a space than a stage, as it wasn't raised from the floor. Regular group when I used to go there ('65/'66) were the Soundcasters.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 912043)

That church hall-type place further up (corner of Whalley Road and York St) did have a youth club, as I remember some lads in my class at AGS used to attend. It had a stage at one end too, as they used to put plays on sometimes.
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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 912048)

That belonged to Whalley Road Congregational Church , Wyn , now United Reformed Church .
My dad met my mum there in 1930s . He was in the Sunshine Boys who put on concerts there .

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 912044)

Think that was Whalley Road Congregational Church Youth Club Wyn used to pop round there on a Friday night occasionally

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 912048)

That belonged to Whalley Road Congregational Church , Wyn , now United Reformed Church .
My dad met my mum there in 1930s . He was in the Sunshine Boys who put on concerts there .

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 912041)

I'm very fuzzy about where the Cavern was, but it seems it was the Arts I went to, looking at Wynonie's picture.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 912057)

The Cavern was on the corner of Milnshaw Lane and Castle Street, right next to the viaduct. It was in the cellar of a stonebuilt 3/4 storey building. Think it might have been a printers (Ward Knowles?). Long gone now, of course.

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 912102)

That's the one! Still as incomprehensible as ever but great nevertheless!

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 912096)

Thanks, Wynonie, you're a mine of information. I kind of remember it now, very vaguely!

I don't remember the Spring Hill place, Jaysay, but do you remember the catholic youth club on Lock St in Ossy? The priest used to come round to make sure we were all behaving ourselves. For some reason I remember 'You really got me' by the Kinks and 'Louie Louie' by whoever it was being really popular. Everybody got up and danced to those and by dancing I mean it was some kind of conga thing. LOL!

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 912109)

I think that would have been Father O'Sullivan. I can remember him standing on the stage in the youth club and saying that kissing was a sin if you weren't married!!

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 912111)

jeez i musta been a right sinner.:hehetable

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Was the subject of a 2-year investigation by the FBI for supposedly obscene lyrics. They finally concluded what the rest of us already knew - the lyrics are simply "unintelligble"!:D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 912051)

Though I was right about the Church name JCB:D

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 912109)

I think that would have been Father O'Sullivan. I can remember him standing on the stage in the youth club and saying that kissing was a sin if you weren't married!!

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 912161)

Yes , Jaysay , and right too about Mrs Quipp on Richmond Road and the Methodist church . It's the Al-Hamza restaurant and banqueting hall now .

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 912172)

Is nothing sacred anymore:D:D

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 912197)

A sign of the times , especially in Spring Hill . The new chapel that the Methodists had built next to the original one is now a mosque . So if you fancy prayer followed by a nosh-up you know where to come . ;)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 912285)

Sorry about that JCB I'll pass, I haven't got a prayer mat:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 912303)

That's not much of an excuse, J. You can get one from Amazon. They are filed either under Health & Beauty or Office Products.

Originally Posted by keep the faith (Post 913239)

What about the Catholic youth club on the corner of Church Street and Paradise Street. I remember seeing The Francis Tee Construction there about 1965.
And the infamous Accy Disco above Catlows on Whalley Road, it was the Mod's stronghold, sometimes we'd get a visit from the greasy haired, leather jacketed, motor bike riding, tough guy individuals (no names at this stage) from "The Arts"

Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 913281)

Spring Hill on a Saturday night, blimey that brings back some grand memories Jay, I must have been all of 15, some nice young lasses there.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 912039)

I might be wrong here but I don't think the Cavern had a licence, might be wrong but the few times I did go I'm sure there was no booze, remember Long John Boldry playing there and Julie Driscoll and the Brian Augor Trinity

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 913458)

Weren't teenagers lucky in those days? I didn't appreciate just how lucky I was at the time. I went to Lock St Ossy and the one in Accy for music. West End youth club and Stanhill pub for pool and cards, Rhyddings Park most summer nights were thriving, either football, crazy golf or musicians like Jinx, Ian Alveston and Phil Kubilius would be there jamming away. There was the Derby for local R & B and blues sessions, the Cavern, Arts. And those are just what I went to. Many others were mentioned. Then there was the Mecca and I also saw the Searchers, Freddie and the Dreamers, the Hollies and may be some others one night at King George's Hall. It was Beatlemania time and all the girls were screaming all the way through. Mass hysteria all night. I even joined in myself, making all my mates totally embarrassed to be with me :)

What do you reckon? Was it really better in those days or is it because we are no longer young and just aren't "down with the kids" anymore?

Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 913551)

I saw jack dupree at the jazz club and also at Bold st club where the jazz & folk club moved after stanley closed down. I remember Tony Susan, used to catch Blackburn bus home with him from Burnley Mecca on a monday night, I got off in Clayton , Tony in Rishton a very nice bloke, think he went in the army, was he an old flame of yours ?. Correct me boys if Im wrong abut bold st it was one of those WMC s it was a long time ago. We talked about the Beatles on the accy pop groups thread. but I remember L J baldry, julie Driscol, at the Cav. Blues incorporated as well, it was a hot summer night, we had to go to the Bull to quench our thirst.

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 913458)

Weren't teenagers lucky in those days? I didn't appreciate just how lucky I was at the time. I went to Lock St Ossy and the one in Accy for music. West End youth club and Stanhill pub for pool and cards, Rhyddings Park most summer nights were thriving, either football, crazy golf or musicians like Jinx, Ian Alveston and Phil Kubilius would be there jamming away. There was the Derby for local R & B and blues sessions, the Cavern, Arts. And those are just what I went to. Many others were mentioned. Then there was the Mecca and I also saw the Searchers, Freddie and the Dreamers, the Hollies and may be some others one night at King George's Hall. It was Beatlemania time and all the girls were screaming all the way through. Mass hysteria all night. I even joined in myself, making all my mates totally embarrassed to be with me :)

What do you reckon? Was it really better in those days or is it because we are no longer young and just aren't "down with the kids" anymore?

Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 913551)

I saw jack dupree at the jazz club and also at Bold st club where the jazz & folk club moved after stanley closed down. I remember Tony Susan, used to catch Blackburn bus home with him from Burnley Mecca on a monday night, I got off in Clayton , Tony in Rishton a very nice bloke, think he went in the army, was he an old flame of yours ?. Correct me boys if Im wrong abut bold st it was one of those WMC s it was a long time ago. We talked about the Beatles on the accy pop groups thread. but I remember L J baldry, julie Driscol, at the Cav. Blues incorporated as well, it was a hot summer night, we had to go to the Bull to quench our thirst.

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 913643)

No Alan we were just friends although he took me to see a James Bond film. He really was a very nice lad and I just wondered what happened to him
Alan do you remember Clarence Frogman Henry at the Cavern and John Mayall or am I getting mixed up. I remember that the stage was on the left as you went in , or no??

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 913643)

No Alan we were just friends although he took me to see a James Bond film. He really was a very nice lad and I just wondered what happened to him
Alan do you remember Clarence Frogman Henry at the Cavern and John Mayall or am I getting mixed up. Also I remember that the stage was on the left as you went in , or no??

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 913693)

Are you sure you aren't getting confused with the Wheel?

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 913812)

No Wynonie, because when I used to go the Wheel, I never saw anyone particularly interesting.
I don't know why I remember Mayall but I also remember seeing The Cream,
or am I hallucinating?!!

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 913814)

Susan, the reason I suggested the Wheel is that Cream played their first ever date there and Mayall played both the Brazennose Street Wheel and the Whitworth Street Wheel on numerous occasions. Pretty sure neither of them ever played anywhere in Accy. Maybe you're thinking of another club altogether?

Originally Posted by Gobbiner17 (Post 913851)

Do you know which year the Cavern shut?

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 913843)

Thats interesting to note wyn, i can remember distinctly reading once the cream never did any gigs up north, that fact they actually did the Wheel, leaves me to conclude it musta been some reporter wi either a "Sun" or L.e.t. background.:D;)

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 914358)

Something just occurred to me about this...although Cream never played in Accy, did Eric Clapton? I remember somebody on Accyweb saying that they saw the Yardbirds at the Con. So the question is, was Clapton in their line-up or had he been replaced by Jeff Beck by then? Either way it'd be another name to add to the select roll-call of stars who have appeared in the town...Jon Anderson (of course), Paul Simon, Rod Stewart, Kiki Dee, Van Morrison. Anybody recall seeing the Yardbirds at the Con?

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 914361)

Well, I think I saw nearly all the top line groups that played at the con Wyn, but cant recall the Yardbirds at all with or without Clapton, and seeing they were one of my favourite bands of that era I think I would have been there

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 914368)

Don't remember Yardbirds n i saw many, remember "Them" wi van the man.:)

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 914358)

Something just occurred to me about this...although Cream never played in Accy, did Eric Clapton? I remember somebody on Accyweb saying that they saw the Yardbirds at the Con. So the question is, was Clapton in their line-up or had he been replaced by Jeff Beck by then? Either way it'd be another name to add to the select roll-call of stars who have appeared in the town...Jon Anderson (of course), Paul Simon, Rod Stewart, Kiki Dee, Van Morrison. Anybody recall seeing the Yardbirds at the Con?

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 914415)

Just spoke to a friend I used to go out with and she says she says we saw Eric Clapton and she's almost sure it was at the Cavern. Perhaps this is why I got mixed up. Is it possible Wynonie??

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 914458)

he could have played the cavern, i don't remember, though thats not saying a lot fer some of the states i got into.:D

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 914416)

Clapton was in John Mayalls "Bluesbreakers" fer awhile sue, perhaps he was with em when i saw Mayall? wherever that was?:confused: i still got the "Bluesbreaker" album n clapton is on it.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 914500)

Looks like it could remain a mystery unless someone comes along to enlighten us!

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 914474)

He could have done but I'm a bit doubtful. Isaac, Florrie and many other Deck dwellers were huge Mayall and Clapton fans and I'm sure that if he'd played there, the event would have entered into local legend and would have been mentioned on here before now. Could be wrong, though.

However, just had another thought, Cashy. Clapton joined a Liverpool band called Casey Jones & The Engineers in Oct '63. He only played with 'em for a few weeks, but could he have played the Cavern with this lot? Was the club open in late '63? :confused:

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 914575)

Wynonie, you are waking up brain cells that I thought were lain to rest. The name Florrie, !! enlighten me as I'm sure I should remember and it certainly rings a bell.
As regards the Cavern I think it opened in about late 65-66

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 914670)

Florrie? Kevin Florentine, drummer with the Francis T. Construction and man about town in the 60's. I'm sure you must've known him...your Al certainly did. He's still seen around town these days...Cashy regularly has a chat with him.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 914714)

Ya there usually sat on the forms outside the market hall Wyn:D:D:D

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 914755)

Disgraceful! I'll be reporting them to Councillor Moss! ;)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 914758)

He might go a join um Wyn,:eek: :eek::eek: that is if he can find just a little time in his very tight schedule:D

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 914477)

thought it was later n that when the cavern opened, i left school easter 63, am near sure it wasn't open that year, perhaps Darwendosser can remember?:confused:

Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 914781)

The Cavern club was open when I joined the forces in 1959, I am sure of that.
A new recruit who became a mate of mine was from Liverpool and he talked about it, we parted company in 1960 when he got a new posting.

The Beatles played there sometime in 1961.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 914784)

Wrong Cavern, mate. We're talking about the Cavern Club that was on the corner of Milnshaw Lane and Castle Street in Accrington.