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jaysay 02-03-2012 08:56

Good old Jerry Dorsey - Engelbert Humperdinck - Loosing the plot?
 
Good old Jerry Dorsey, our own Engelbert Humperdinck, will be representing the good old UK at this years Euro Vision Song Contest, no doubt another Nil Point for GB:D

maxthecollie 02-03-2012 10:08

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Where do we get them from. Do we not have any new talent?

jaysay 02-03-2012 10:11

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 974323)
Where do we get them from. Do we not have any new talent?

Give the young lad a chance Max:D

Michael1954 02-03-2012 12:20

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 974323)
Where do we get them from. Do we not have any new talent?

They've tried new talent over the last few years and failed miserably.

Acrylic-bob 02-03-2012 12:25

Loosing the plot?
 
I could scarcely believe my ears this morning when, listening to the BBC, I could have sworn I heard the newsreader say that the singer chosen for this years Eurovision Song Contest was the seventy five (or six, no one seems quite sure) year old Egelbert Humperdink.


I checked the date, just in case it might be April 1st, but it wasn't. And as the rolling news rolled it became clear that the BBC were adamant in their determination to field the oldest contestant....EVER!

I was always under the impression, maybe I have got it wrong, that the idea of entering this European mawkfest was to win the bluddy thing, not get laughed out of the auditorium.

On "Breakfast" they had some overpaid and underdressed BBC thirtysomething claiming that it was part of the UK's strategy, since the singer was quite popular in Azerbaijan, where the contest is to be held this year.

Can I ask a couple of obvious questions here?

1. Since when was Azerbaijan considered to be a part of Europe?

2. Since you can bet that Humperdink will not be donating his services for free, why does the BBC think that it is acceptable to throw thousands of pounds of licence fee payers money down the drain lke this?


How will they top this farrago, next year? Vera Lynn?


Or are they planning on exhuming Norman Wisdom on the grounds that he is still popular in Albania?

MargaretR 02-03-2012 12:29

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Jaysay beat you to it
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...sey-60854.html

jimmy 02-03-2012 15:41

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The trouble is, if Humpy has moderate success, they might ask Cilla Black next year.:eek:

mobertol 02-03-2012 15:49

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 974383)
The trouble is, if Humpy has moderate success, they might ask Cilla Black next year.:eek:

Don't knock our Cilla!

She's got more Oomph than Humph;):D

mobertol 02-03-2012 15:59

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This is an absolute classic in Italy -everyone knows it...

Eurovision 1964 Italy - Gigliola Cinquetti - Non ho l'eta - YouTube

Apart from Sandy Shaw and Puppet on a String i can't think of any Eurovision winners from the UK.

I know Buck's Fizz won it - memorable sing -can't quite bring it to mind:rolleyes::D

MargaretR 02-03-2012 16:02

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Cliff Richards was our entry in 1968 - think he came second

accyman 02-03-2012 16:14

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Just think if we pulled out of the EU we could probably avoid this tripe too

How will rolling out an old fart stop england getting nil,zero,nada from all teh countries that dont like us because we backed america over iraq?

mobertol 02-03-2012 16:20

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Bring back It's a Knockout!!!:D

garinda 02-03-2012 16:38

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 974392)
Cliff Richards was our entry in 1968 - think he came second

Apparently he was nobbled by Franco.

How General Franco cheated Cliff Richard out of Eurovision title - Telegraph

walkinman221 02-03-2012 17:06

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Please release me let me go from this dirge.:D:D

mobertol 02-03-2012 17:17

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 974404)
Please release me let me go from this dirge.:D:D

Aaaargh - well someone had to do it Dave!:p

jaysay 02-03-2012 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 974383)
The trouble is, if Humpy has moderate success, they might ask Cilla Black next year.:eek:

Our cilla's a lorra lorra larfs jimmy:D

jaysay 02-03-2012 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 974398)
Bring back It's a Knockout!!!:D

Even international Knockout:D

cashman 02-03-2012 18:16

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Never had any interest in the Eurovision, Nor in Humperdink, What i will say about his selection though, Hes hardly likely to get less votes than the recent Garbage put forward, its that simple.

Less 02-03-2012 18:31

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 974422)
Never had any interest in the Eurovision, Nor in Humperdink, What i will say about his selection though, Hes hardly likely to get less votes than the recent Garbage put forward, its that simple.

My mind has to be cast back to an earlier time, communications across our Continent by Television had just about been acheived, back then, it was a marvel oh, so exciting to watch even the lowest standard of music, it was from another COUNTRY!

Now, we just don't need it, political in fighting, putting forward whomsoever in just the slightest hope their Country might gain a few points.

Lets be honest, it gets nowhere like the viewers Eastenders gets when that comes on.

(Not saying the Eastenders viewers are simple minded, just lucky their remote gave them that channel before they threw it out of their reach because it had too many buttons).

jaysay 02-03-2012 18:35

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Think your right Less, its time to pull the plug, when Wogan can suss that the games up then it must be time to call it quits

annesingleton 02-03-2012 19:36

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He does have a very nice voice, my mother and grandma loved him!

bluefatherdougal 02-03-2012 20:38

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Well I never knew that

annesingleton 02-03-2012 22:22

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Originally Posted by bluefatherdougal (Post 974467)
Well I never knew that

You don't know everything! They both were in love with Engelbert, Des O'Connor, Ken Dodd and my grandma had a soft spot for Bruce Forsyth - she loved the Generation Game (It's my daughter by the way, I'll continue with the family itinerary in private!)

Michael1954 02-03-2012 22:29

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Originally Posted by bluefatherdougal (Post 974467)
Well I never knew that

Your first post since joining 12 months ago! It looks like Anne has drawn you out.

annesingleton 02-03-2012 23:01

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I hope I have! My lovely daughter has a lot to contribute I'm sure, but I think she's enjoyed observing!

jaysay 03-03-2012 09:05

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 974514)
I hope I have! My lovely daughter has a lot to contribute I'm sure, but I think she's enjoyed observing!

With a name like that I'm sure:D

wallop79 03-03-2012 12:37

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I read somewhere (but dont know where!) that Englishburt Humperdick is well liked in Europe. That explains why he's been chosen, in the hope that we can actually get a few points this year. At the end of the day who cares if we win or lose, its the taking part that counts! GB always has been & always will be a joke in this "competition" we all know its rigged, I used to love Terry Wogan's comments which got more & more lewd as the night went on as he polished off more & more of his bottle of Bailey's, thats the only reason me & mates watched it for Terry's comments.

jaysay 03-03-2012 14:01

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Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 974633)
I read somewhere (but dont know where!) that English Burt Humperdinck is well liked in Europe. That explains why he's been chosen, in the hope that we can actually get a few points this year. At the end of the day who cares if we win or lose, its the taking part that counts! GB always has been & always will be a joke in this "competition" we all know its rigged, I used to love Terry Wogan's comments which got more & more lewd as the night went on as he polished off more & more of his bottle of Bailey's, that's the only reason me & mates watched it for Terry's comments.

Not always a joke wallop, we have won it quite a few times over the years, but that was before the Eastern Bloc moved into Europe, maybe your too young to remember the bare foot contessa Sandy Shaw and Puppet on a Sting

Acrylic-bob 03-03-2012 14:19

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Acrylic Biff and I have had the JCB out and have done a bit more digging.

Aparently, in 2010 Norway spent £23 Million on hosting the contest. Since then costs have escalated which is why selection has usually been internal rather than the result of public competition.

There is a suggestion that some member countries of the European Broadcasting Union(EBU), have been deliberately submitting dud songs in the hope that they would not win, thus saving themselves a shedload of cash. Member countries pay the EBU an undisclosed fee to participate. Some of the costs of hosting the event are recouped through ticket sales and sponsorship.

The question I had about what constitutes the European bit of the contests title is quite complex and is determined nominally by those countries which fall inside the European Broadcasting Area, known as Region 1. This is defined as being between ten degrees to the west of the Greenwich Meridian and forty degrees to the east of said Meridian and in the south by parallel thirty degrees North. In addition, the EBU can invite whoever it chooses, provided they meet the conditions laid down in the contest rules and pay up on time.

Now that that's all cleared up, I doubt that there is any chance, even with a Freedom of Information Request that we would persuade the BBC to come clean on what it actually spends on this kitsch-fest.

However, given what I said above about avoiding winning, this paints the failures of the last couple of years and the selection of Humperdink in a totally new light, wouldn't you agree? You see, you cannot trust even old Aunty Beeb and Terry Wogan to tell you the truth. How many will fall for all that "we're going to win this time' crap. When everyone at the Beeb know full well that the song was chosen precisely because it did not have a cat in hell's chance of winning?

garinda 03-03-2012 14:33

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I've always thought it odd that Israel have taken part for years.

Perhaps we should invite all their Arab neighbours to participate..

So they too can win it, by getting their trannies to belt one out.

As for cost.

Ireland won three times in a row, in 1992, 1993, and 1994, and found the hosting costs a burden.

Bet they're crossing their fingers they don't have anymore victories.

Now the Celtic Tiger's well and truly snuffed it, and their economy's on it's knees.

Acrylic-bob 03-03-2012 15:03

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Apparently the southern boundary includes most of North Africa and part of Saudi-Arabia
Most of what used to be known as Mesopotamia is also included. Basically it covers all of the territories of the former Roman Empire as well as Hyperboria, Ultima Thule and Russia.

accyman 03-03-2012 16:59

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just scrap the bloody thing or dont even bother putting any one up for it.

bring back top of the pops instead even if only for a once a year 3 hour show of the best chart songs of the year its got to be better than sitting through that rigged bias drivel :)

kestrelx 03-03-2012 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974670)
I've always thought it odd that Israel have taken part for years.

Perhaps we should invite all their Arab neighbours to participate..

So they too can win it, by getting their trannies to belt one out.

As for cost.

Ireland won three times in a row, in 1992, 1993, and 1994, and found the hosting costs a burden.

Bet they're crossing their fingers they don't have anymore victories.

Now the Celtic Tiger's well and truly snuffed it, and their economy's on it's knees.


That's a point - why are Israel in the European Song Contest? :theband: is it because a large percentage of the population came from various European countries?

Neil 04-03-2012 16:51

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I have just merged the 2 threads on this topic as requested, sorry if its a bit odd to read now

jaysay 04-03-2012 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 974675)
Apparently the southern boundary includes most of North Africa and part of Saudi-Arabia
Most of what used to be known as Mesopotamia is also included. Basically it covers all of the territories of the former Roman Empire as well as Hyperboria, Ultima Thule and Russia.

To be honest its just like the Champions League in football at one time you had to the champions to enter the competition now its any tom dick or harry, its all about keeping people happy not about achievement

jimmy 04-03-2012 18:17

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A few years ago,our telly blew up when we were watching the "song contest".
Some French woman was bleating out a tuneless ditty and worst of all she was singing it in French!

The old box started to smoke and then finally gave up the ghost with a few sparks and a loud crack.:D

That is a true story.

jaysay 09-03-2012 10:20

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...09_636x368.jpghttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nt-Russia.html


Looks like good old Englebert will have more competition than we first thought, I don't fancy yours cashy:D

kestrelx 10-03-2012 19:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 976329)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...09_636x368.jpgEurovision 2012: Girl band 'Buranovo Grannies' with average age of 75 to represent Russia | Mail Online


Looks like good old Englebert will have more competition than we first thought, I don't fancy yours cashy:D

Perhaps you, Cashman and Less should get a Morris Dancing Group together and apply to enter Eurovision 2013! :rolleyes:

jaysay 11-03-2012 09:34

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 976719)
Perhaps you, Cashman and Less should get a Morris Dancing Group together and apply to enter Eurovision 2013! :rolleyes:

Do pay attention Eurovision is a song contest, hello is anybody at home:jimbo:

katex 19-03-2012 12:15

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So, have you heard it yet ?

A sweet enough ballad, with lovely lyrics. 'Love will set you free'.

What I raised my eyebrows about was that he stated on Radio 2 this morning, that it was not a 1st time heard attraction ... grew on you as you heard it more. ? I have heard it twice now, and he is correct.

Huh, sure this what the Eurovision is all about ...one shot only.

jaysay 19-03-2012 17:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 978853)
So, have you heard it yet ?

A sweet enough ballad, with lovely lyrics. 'Love will set you free'.

What I raised my eyebrows about was that he stated on Radio 2 this morning, that it was not a 1st time heard attraction ... grew on you as you heard it more. ? I have heard it twice now, and he is correct.

Huh, sure this what the Eurovision is all about ...one shot only.

The problem is Kate it ain't a song contest any more

Less 19-03-2012 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 978853)
So, have you heard it yet ?

Heard it this morning, it was like a dirge, might have been a little better if he could still hold a note.

katex 19-03-2012 18:41

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 978907)
Heard it this morning, it was like a dirge, might have been a little better if he could still hold a note.

Haha... and he slides from one to another.

MargaretR 19-03-2012 19:11

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 978908)
Haha... and he slides from one to another.

Just watched - you can't see the join ;)

kestrelx 26-05-2012 22:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 976826)
Do pay attention Eurovision is a song contest, hello is anybody at home:jimbo:

Yeh I meant Morris Dancing, in between singing you song! ;)

kestrelx 26-05-2012 22:35

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 978907)
Heard it this morning, it was like a dirge, might have been a little better if he could still hold a note.

He came 2nd to the bottom! I agree the high notes sounded flat - also the song sounds like the start of a heavy metal song which never takes off.:cool:

Claytoner40 26-05-2012 23:02

He was definitely flat on some of the high notes. I thought he was embarrassing. In my mind, without doubt it was the worst song.

garinda 26-05-2012 23:21

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Nice, to end your career with a Boom Bang-a-Bang.

garinda 26-05-2012 23:25

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I'm backing Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson, to bring back the trophy for us next year.

kestrelx 26-05-2012 23:29

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 994223)
Nice, to end your career with a Boom Bang-a-Bang.


Do you think he regrets it? ;)

kestrelx 26-05-2012 23:31

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 994220)
He was definitely flat on some of the high notes. I thought he was embarrassing. In my mind, without doubt it was the worst song.

Agree with you - what are the BBC thinking? They should launch a song contest in the UK now for applicants to submit songs at grass roots level and then have the public vote on them to get a song for next year. Only to save face - but who really cares? This song contest is basically a promotions excercise for countries and the Euro. :do-one:

Michael1954 27-05-2012 00:26

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The winning song isn't exactly unforgettable. I quite like The Hump's song. It's received a lot of airplay on Radio 2 over the last few weeks, and it has a pleasant melody, nicely sung.

Guinness 27-05-2012 00:40

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 994228)
Agree with you - what are the BBC thinking? They should launch a song contest in the UK now for applicants to submit songs at grass roots level and then have the public vote on them to get a song for next year. Only to save face - but who really cares? This song contest is basically a promotions excercise for countries and the Euro. :do-one:

You are joking of course...let the public decide???

The same public who think that Anne Widdicome and John Sargeant can dance, that think that Jedward and Chico have talent. The same public who lap up 'I'm a celebrity with a voice that ballroom dances on ice wearing a cat costume so get me out of here'

Used to be a mildly entertaining competition in the early days of pop, when most of the music on TV were piano recitals, choristers and a weekly dose of ToTP and six five special.

We need to pull away and leave it to the newly freed nations like Azerbaijan, Croatia and the like,,let them have their puppet on a string and save your kisses for me moment..

After all we've outgrown this nonsense, we've progressed from this shallow interpretation of musical acumen..we have rap, hip hop, garage, grunge...........oh wait..:rolleyes:

spignific 27-05-2012 01:13

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Whoever picked uk's entry must have thought it was the same judges as in 1975...probally 25 year old judges this time and they voted for a modern dance track from sweden.. People who decided to use humper,epic FAIL !!
:D

jaysay 27-05-2012 08:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 994220)
He was definitely flat on some of the high notes. I thought he was embarrassing. In my mind, without doubt it was the worst song.

Ya didn't watch it did ya:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Claytoner40 27-05-2012 08:35

I always say I'm not watching it and end up doing. I do like to watch the political allegiances during the voting

jaysay 27-05-2012 08:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 994236)
You are joking of course...let the public decide???

The same public who think that Anne Widdicome and John Sargeant can dance, that think that Jedward and Chico have talent. The same public who lap up 'I'm a celebrity with a voice that ballroom dances on ice wearing a cat costume so get me out of here'

Used to be a mildly entertaining competition in the early days of pop, when most of the music on TV were piano recitals, choristers and a weekly dose of ToTP and six five special.

We need to pull away and leave it to the newly freed nations like Azerbaijan, Croatia and the like,,let them have their puppet on a string and save your kisses for me moment..

After all we've outgrown this nonsense, we've progressed from this shallow interpretation of musical acumen..we have rap, hip hop, garage, grunge...........oh wait..:rolleyes:

For years they did put it to the public vote they had a raft of programs leading up the the song being chosen, and that was a none starter too. I honestly don't know why we even bother, we're only ever going to be in the running for the wooden spoon, its now a back slapping competition for your neighbours, with political intones, wast of a Saturday Nights entertainment

jaysay 27-05-2012 08:37

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 994267)
I always say I'm not watching it and end up doing. I do like to watch the political allegiances during the voting

Bet you watch election night special too:D:D

kestrelx 27-05-2012 09:33

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I watched it because he was first on - they should have produced like this and Hump should have worn leather and studs -

Manowar-the crown and the ring 2008 Metal version - YouTube

That said this song slaughters his Eurosong effort!

hassy rvr 27-05-2012 10:48

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We should have pulled out years ago to save further embarrassment.

claytonx 27-05-2012 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hassy rvr (Post 994307)
We should have pulled out years ago to save further embarrassment.

Who cares

jaysay 27-05-2012 13:57

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 994310)
Who cares

Who cares about what:confused::confused::confused::D

maxthecollie 27-05-2012 14:24

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Did we honestly expect him to have a chance.In my opinion NO WAY

claytonx 27-05-2012 15:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 994321)
Who cares about what:confused::confused::confused::D

About Eurovision song contest.

jaysay 27-05-2012 16:38

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 994332)
Did we honestly expect him to have a chance.In my opinion NO WAY

He was entered as A. N. Other, twelfth man to travel;)

garinda 27-05-2012 17:36

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He'd have come second, if only he'd joined the other nanas, baking biscuits.

jaysay 28-05-2012 09:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 994361)
He'd have come second, if only he'd joined the other nanas, baking biscuits.

Well you could have a point there Rindi, hows about Gordon Ramsey for next year:D


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