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Claytoner40 30-09-2012 20:28

Lancashire Folk Songs
 
Does anyone know any good Lancashire folk songs that I can add to my repotoire? I'm struggling after Poverty Knock. Suggestions much appreciated

cashman 30-09-2012 20:33

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Chippy Tea?:)

Claytoner40 30-09-2012 21:12

Thanks Cashy. I think that's a Lancashire Hotpots one isn't it. I've also remembered Accrington Pals by Mike Harding

maxthecollie 30-09-2012 21:14

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The work of the weavers.

Claytoner40 30-09-2012 21:27

Is that a song title or do you mean Houghton Weavers?

maxthecollie 30-09-2012 21:28

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I'm sure its a song title by the Houghton Weavers "Gone are the days" album

susie123 30-09-2012 21:31

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Off the top of my head: Old Pendle, Rawtenstall annual fair, Manchester Rambler, Droylsden Wakes, The poor cotton weaver, The Shurat weaver, A Mon like thee, Cob coaling Song, Four-Loom weaver, Bury new loom

Then there's all the stuff written by the Oldham Tinkers, Fivepenny Piece, Alan Bell of the Blackpool Taverners... plus the Spinners stuff if you consider Liverpool as Lancashire.

maxthecollie 30-09-2012 21:33

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Liverpool used to be in Lancashire didn't it?

susie123 30-09-2012 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1020254)
The work of the weavers.

It's originally a Scottish song, later sung by Ewan MacColl. There are lots of weaving songs from the flax mills of Northern Ireland and the jute mills of Scotland.

Claytoner40 30-09-2012 21:37

Manchester Rambler is a great song. Was that Ewan McColl?

susie123 30-09-2012 21:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 1020271)
Manchester Rambler is a great song. Was that Ewan McColl?

Yep, one of my favourites, and he did write it.

Claytoner40 30-09-2012 21:41

I may be a wage slave on Monday but I am a free man on Sunday. Pure poetry. Although I think Hugh Davies is better ;-)

steve2qec 30-09-2012 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 1020271)
Manchester Rambler is a great song. Was that Ewan McColl?

Don't know that one but he did "Dirty Old Town" which was popularised by The Pogues.

Claytoner40 30-09-2012 21:43

He did

cashman 30-09-2012 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 1020253)
Thanks Cashy. I think that's a Lancashire Hotpots one isn't it. I've also remembered Accrington Pals by Mike Harding

Not sure who, heard it years ago n can't remember, it stuck wi me though.:) Have heard Tommy Franks do Accrington Pals,come to think of it.

susie123 30-09-2012 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 1020275)
Don't know that one but he did "Dirty Old Town" which was popularised by The Pogues.

Just for you Steve...

Ewan MacColl The Manchester Rambler - YouTube

steve2qec 30-09-2012 22:15

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Thanks!
More of a Steeleye Span fan myself.

Bob Dobson 01-10-2012 13:28

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I suspect that Accrington Library will have a book on Lancashire Folk Songs edited by Mike Harding. Bernard Wrigley has a CD entitled God's County which features only Lancashire songs. There have been several books of Lancashire poems, mostly dialect, which have been turned into songs. There have been at least two books of Edwin Waugh's poems which have music by Robert Jackson amongst others.

I will PM you with how to receive my catalogue of secondhand Lancashire books. I need your email address.

pompeylass 08-10-2012 21:29

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It was last Monday morning,
I heard them call and say,
The orders came this afternoon,
we’re bound to march away.
Chorus:
For the Lancashire lads have gone abroad,
whatever shall we do?
They’re leaving may a pretty fair maid to cry, what shall I do?
Said the mother to the daughter,
what makes you talk so strange.
That you want to marry a soldier lad, the whole wide world to range.
For soldiers they are ramblin’ boys, they have but little pay.
Can they maintain a wife and child on sixteen pence a day?
Chorus
Said the father to the daughter,
"I’ll have you close confined.
You’ll never marry a soldier lad, he’ll be no son of mine.
If you confine me seven long years and after set me free,
I’ll go and find my soldier lad when I gain my liberty.
Chorus
My true loved dressed in scarlet
and turned up with the blue
And every place the he goes in my sweetheart is true.
For they have sweethearts enough, me boys, and girls to please their minds,
But I’ll never forget sweat Manchester, the girls they left behind

egg&chips 08-10-2012 21:36

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My dear old dad used to sing a song on early Sunday morning outings round the Trough of Bowland etc which had the following words as part of it.
"You may speak of dear old Dixie,
Or your home in Tenessee,
But that spot isn't Ribble Valley,
It means all the world to me"
I would love to find out the name of the song and if any recordings are available.

susie123 08-10-2012 21:50

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From readers' letters in the Clitheroe Advertiser:


REGARDING Mr Whalley's letter to the Clitheroe Advertiser and Times.
He is hoping to make a cassette of "A Cot in Ribble Valley" and sell copies for charity.
As I know the words, or most of them, I thought you might be interested in printing them:
Just a cot in Ribble Valley
Where the birds sing all the day
Where the Ribble and the Hodder
To the ocean wend their way
I don't sigh for dear old Dixie
Or the sights of Tennessee
Just a cot in Ribble Valley
Would mean all the world to me


Letters August 6th: wind turbines, Calderstones, Waddington and West Bradford Primary School, swine flu Communion ban, Ribblerouser, cash scam, Ribble Valley Homes, 'A Cot in the Ribble Valley', Beatherder - Letters to the Editor - Clitheroe Advertis

egg&chips 08-10-2012 22:10

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[QUOTE=susie123;1021727]From readers' letters in the Clitheroe Advertiser:


REGARDING Mr Whalley's letter to the Clitheroe Advertiser and Times.
He is hoping to make a cassette of "A Cot in Ribble Valley" and sell copies for charity.
As I know the words, or most of them, I thought you might be interested in printing them:
Just a cot in Ribble Valley
Where the birds sing all the day
Where the Ribble and the Hodder
To the ocean wend their way
I don't sigh for dear old Dixie
Or the sights of Tennessee
Just a cot in Ribble Valley
Would mean all the world to me

Multiple blessings Sue. You have sorted out the gaps in my memory or my d.o.d's paraphrasing to get this
:D:D:D

Bob Dobson 08-10-2012 22:13

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Somewhere I have a copy of the sheet music for this song, which my aunt used to sing to me.

susie123 08-10-2012 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by egg&chips (Post 1021729)
Multiple blessings Sue. You have sorted out the gaps in my memory or my d.o.d's paraphrasing to get this
:D:D:D

Cheers Clive. Took all of a minute on Google!!

I can just see you all bowling through Bowland with that ringing in your ears!

egg&chips 08-10-2012 22:34

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[QUOTE=susie123;1021732]Cheers Clive. Took all of a minute on Google!!

Easier when you know the right words:rolleyes:

pompeylass 09-10-2012 09:28

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In my haste to post the song I forgot to put the title of it, and when I went to 'Edit' my PC froze.

The title is 'Lancashire Lads' and you can change certain words to suit.

I used to sing this song at folk clubs back in the early 70s.

Bob Dobson 10-07-2014 06:24

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I've just come across this thread when searching for Rawtenstall Annual Fair . This is taking place this coming weekend. Folk songs and dialect poems will feature in the Sunday event in Whitaker Museum Park.

putsinker 08-09-2014 15:22

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Brewers Droop's a gud'n

Rivendel 08-09-2014 15:51

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Blackpool Belle a great song.

Rowlf 08-09-2014 19:46

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There is a second verse of Just a Cot in Ribble valley. ..
I have heard folk sing of Tennessee and lands of Uncle Joe,
I have heard them boast of Dixie , where the cotton blossoms grow.
But give me a spot in Endland,the land where I was born,
Beside two tiny rivers and a field of English corn,

Just a cot in Ribble valley..etc

Gordon Booth 08-09-2014 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowlf (Post 1116361)
There is a second verse of Just a Cot in Ribble valley. ..
I have heard folk sing of Tennessee and lands of Uncle Joe,
I have heard them boast of Dixie , where the cotton blossoms grow.
But give me a spot in Endland,the land where I was born,
Beside two tiny rivers and a field of English corn,

Just a cot in Ribble valley..etc

I'm puzzled. I keep hearing 'The Yellow Rose of Texas' which is supposed to be an American folk song from the mid 18 hundreds( something to do with Texas fighting Mexico).
Is the one based on the other, if so which way round. Or is there another tune altogether?

charlo108 14-05-2015 20:48

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Hello !

This is a song my grandad used to sing but my dad can't remember the tune. Does anyone know how we could find out. We've tried googling and this forum comes up. I'd be interested to see the sheet music if possible....?

Thanks! :-)

Bob Dobson 15-05-2015 20:09

Re: Lancashire Folk Songs
 
I have a copy of this song in my Lancashire sheet music collection, but cannot find it. From memory, it was written by a Clitheroe chap

Rowlf 15-05-2015 21:03

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I have a copy of the sheet music . If you send me a private message Charlo108 with your address I will get a Photostat of it for you

Bob Dobson 16-05-2015 19:36

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It was written by Jim Ainsworth from Blackburn and is based on an actual cottage in Langho - Rose Cottage, which is sadly no longer there.

carolfranchesca 12-07-2016 15:06

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Did you say you had a copy of the original, I would be interested to know the writers name. My Mother in law who is 92 has told me many times in the past that her Father wrote this before he went to London where he caught TB, she doesn't know if he sold the song. His name was Peter Malone. Thank you

Bob Dobson 12-07-2016 19:19

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I'm certain it was Jim Ainsworth, Try an email to [email protected]

carolfranchesca 05-08-2016 00:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowlf (Post 1140970)
I have a copy of the sheet music . If you send me a private message Charlo108 with your address I will get a Photostat of it for you

Hi Following your post A cot in the Ribble valley, could you tell me if the song was written by Peter Malone? My Mother in Law has always said her Father wrote this song just before he went to London, along with a few other songs. She said he had a song book of songs he wrote, she didn't know if he had sold the songs. Sadly he caught TB in London and came home to die, either in the 1920s or early 30s. She is 92 now but was only young when he died, I promised her I would try to find out more. I would be very grateful for a reply or an email with a copy of the sheet music [email protected]

RBruceRogers 23-04-2017 20:35

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Hi,
I'm a native of the US and live in North Carolina. Today I stumbled across a print of the sheet music for Just a Cot in Ribble Valley while cleaning out old files. That print lists the author and copyright owner as Jim Ainsworth. The paper doesn't look very old, so it could be a reprint.

I decided to do a little casual research, and this forum was among the few listings that Google offered. There was also a listing for a sale of an original copy of the sheet music, which listed Jim Ainsworth as the author.

My wife's grandparents were Brits who came to the US before World War 1. I believe that Jim Ainsworth was a relative, but I don't know the exact connection. I could ask my wife if there was any interest.

I'm sorry that that doesn't agree with your family's understanding of the song's past, carolfranchesca. It's possible that there is other history, but this is all that I know.

Regards, Bruce

Bob Dobson 24-04-2017 08:59

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Thanks for this, Bruce. I am in no doubt that Jim Ainsworth wrote the song.


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