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Aussie Irene 27-04-2013 03:50

Four Pennies
 
Does anyone remember Lionel Morton from Blacburn, and his band, who later changed their name to The Four Pennies, playing in the Derby Hotel in St James St on a Friday night around the 1960's They then went on to make a number one hit on the charts "Juliet"

Bob Dobson 27-04-2013 05:58

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They still get plenty of mentions on Radio Lancashire - come over and listen.

cashman 27-04-2013 06:37

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Yep seen em a few times up Con on Monday night, Most people around here of certain ages remember em pretty well,:) was a guy called fritz in the four pennies as well i recall. They were a Blackburn based group.:) Recall Lionel married the blonde lass "Actress" Julia Foster.

maxthecollie 27-04-2013 07:38

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Lionel was a choirboy at Blackburn Cathedral I think

jaysay 27-04-2013 07:58

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1055786)
Yep seen em a few times up Con on Monday night, Most people around here of certain ages remember em pretty well,:) was a guy called fritz in the four pennies as well i recall. They were a Blackburn based group.:) Recall Lionel married the blonde lass "Actress" Julia Foster.

Fritz Fryer was from Great Harwood, on a few occasions when they played the Con on Mondays they billed as The Lionel Morton 4 + 1 can remember the guys name but he was a lad who lived up Willows Lane and was a pianist, anybody else remember him, or what his name was?

cashman 27-04-2013 11:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1055799)
Fritz Fryer was from Great Harwood, on a few occasions when they played the Con on Mondays they billed as The Lionel Morton 4 + 1 can remember the guys name but he was a lad who lived up Willows Lane and was a pianist, anybody else remember him, or what his name was?

Nah mate Fritz was from Oldham, may have lived oer harrod i have no idea. He died about 6/7 yrs ago in Lisbon.

Greeny 27-04-2013 11:49

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They changed their name to Four Pennys as Reidys music shop who helped them was on Penny St. Lionel Morton was married to Julia Foster( like Jaysay says) and she is the mother of Ben Fogle from her second marriage.

cashman 27-04-2013 12:18

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Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 1055858)
They changed their name to Four Pennys as Reidys music shop who helped them was on Penny St. Lionel Morton was married to Julia Foster( like Jaysay says) and she is the mother of Ben Fogle from her second marriage.

Yeh been drinking greeny? I said it not jaysay.:D

flashman 27-04-2013 12:18

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Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1055780)
Does anyone remember Lionel Morton from Blacburn, and his band, who later changed their name to The Four Pennies, playing in the Derby Hotel in St James St on a Friday night around the 1960's They then went on to make a number one hit on the charts "Juliet"


Try this

Juliet - The Four Pennies - YouTube

jaysay 27-04-2013 13:52

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1055852)
Nah mate Fritz was from Oldham, may have lived oer harrod i have no idea. He died about 6/7 yrs ago in Lisbon.

Was certainly living in Harwood while with the Pennies or should I say prior to the Pennies, ya I can remember reading about him dying in the LT

wadey 27-04-2013 20:25

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Lionel Morton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aussie Irene 28-04-2013 01:11

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1055794)
Lionel was a choirboy at Blackburn Cathedral I think

Yes i seem to remember that. I may be wrong but i think Lionel Morton was married, maybe to a Blackburn girl, and that her name was used for the number one hit song. they were later divorced.

jaysay 28-04-2013 08:23

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Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1055993)
Yes i seem to remember that. I may be wrong but i think Lionel Morton was married, maybe to a Blackburn girl, and that her name was used for the number one hit song. they were later divorced.

Juliet was named after is Niece if I remember rightly

Aussie Irene 28-04-2013 12:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1056015)
Juliet was named after is Niece if I remember rightly

Thank You JAYSAY that could be so.

Mog 29-04-2013 06:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1055786)
Yep seen em a few times up Con on Monday night, Most people around here of certain ages remember em pretty well,:) was a guy called fritz in the four pennies as well i recall. They were a Blackburn based group.:) Recall Lionel married the blonde lass "Actress" Julia Foster.

Your quite right Cashy, I used to knock about with Franny Franks about 63 and we used to spend some monday afternoons in the bar and playing snooker up the Con. Lionel used to come in with the band ( The Lionel Morton Four ) to get set up for the evening. He was always taking some kind of pills. Nervous as hell. Jon Anderson once said, "I turned down the song Juliet" dont know how true his quote was, but I have it on video somewhere.

cashman 29-04-2013 07:01

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Frannys still batting as is brother Tommy, He spends a fair bit of time in Thailand, but was talking to him a few weeks back.:) His ex wifes mam died a few weeks ago n i was at the funeral.

jaysay 29-04-2013 07:52

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Originally Posted by Mog (Post 1056217)
Your quite right Cashy, I used to knock about with Franny Franks about 63 and we used to spend some monday afternoons in the bar and playing snooker up the Con. Lionel used to come in with the band ( The Lionel Morton Four ) to get set up for the evening. He was always taking some kind of pills. Nervous as hell. Jon Anderson once said, "I turned down the song Juliet" dont know how true his quote was, but I have it on video somewhere.

I was in the same class as Franny Franks at the Holy Family Mog

jaysay 29-04-2013 07:54

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1056222)
Frannys still batting as is brother Tommy, He spends a fair bit of time in Thailand, but was talking to him a few weeks back.:) His ex wifes mam died a few weeks ago n i was at the funeral.

Its a few years since I saw Tommy, think the last time was in the White Bull up New Lane

goneroping 01-07-2013 13:57

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Yes I do He trapped my hand in his van door hinge ouch! Where are they now? Shirley

goneroping 01-07-2013 13:59

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Jon anderson wasnt he in the Warriors?

jaysay 01-07-2013 17:39

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Originally Posted by goneroping (Post 1064929)
Jon anderson wasnt he in the Warriors?

many moons ago

Aussie Irene 02-07-2013 03:36

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1056222)
Frannys still batting as is brother Tommy, He spends a fair bit of time in Thailand, but was talking to him a few weeks back.:) His ex wifes mam died a few weeks ago n i was at the funeral.

Are the two brothers mentioned in these threads, Franny and Tom Franks, any relation to the late Franks brothers, Francis and Tom. Both these brothers were very talented in their own right. Francis in comedy and Tom played instruments. During the war years the two brothers produced top class musical and variety shows at the Hippodrome. "Anchors Aweigh" and "Mikado" were two that come to mind. These shows were backed by Howard & Bulloughs. A joiner from Ossy, Jack Hulme who i believe Jaysay would know played piano in the orchestra. The reason i am asking this is because the Franks brothers were connected to St Annes and i see that Franny sings and was in the same class with Jaysay at Holy Family.

ossy kid 02-07-2013 05:03

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It's possible Irene, both Tommy and Franny went to St Annes, Tommy will be 69 or 70 and Franny a couple of years younger so the late Franks Brothers may have been father/uncle. Incidentally Jack Hulme played at our wedding and was a great favourite up James St Ossy.

cashman 02-07-2013 07:17

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Yep they are the same Irene.;)

goneroping 02-07-2013 14:30

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wish I could listen to radio Lancashire...but live in Tucson Arizna..Miss the green grass of home...

goneroping 02-07-2013 14:33

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Jon Anderson my brother said when he came home he could barely speak to anyone...Fame! He used to live across from my nans on Cedar st.....

gpick24 02-07-2013 14:53

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Originally Posted by goneroping (Post 1065101)
wish I could listen to radio Lancashire...but live in Tucson Arizna..Miss the green grass of home...

You can listen online.
BBC Radio Lancashire 103.9 FM | Listen Online | Live Streaming Radio

maxthecollie 02-07-2013 14:56

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Originally Posted by goneroping (Post 1065101)
wish I could listen to radio Lancashire...but live in Tucson Arizna..Miss the green grass of home...

Listen to it on the bbc website

gpick24 02-07-2013 15:00

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Also available on the BBC Iplayer Radio App

DtheP47 03-07-2013 07:04

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Originally Posted by goneroping (Post 1065104)
Jon Anderson my brother said when he came home he could barely speak to anyone...Fame! He used to live across from my nans on Cedar st.....

Not true goneroping..whenever he came back to town usually to see his family he always got in touch with his old mates if he had the time, usually via Rod Hill or Gordon Kenyon. Met up with him in the Pickwick back in the day and moved up to the New Brewery for a few beers. Absolutely no edge to him. ;)

Mog 03-07-2013 12:01

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1065187)
Not true goneroping..whenever he came back to town usually to see his family he always got in touch with his old mates if he had the time, usually via Rod Hill or Gordon Kenyon. Met up with him in the Pickwick back in the day and moved up to the New Brewery for a few beers. Absolutely no edge to him. ;)

You are spot on D. Met Jon a few times over the years after various shows with Yes and with Rick Wakeman. Still remembers his mates from St Chrirtophers and when we played football together in the school yard. He is a real nice chap as is his brother Tony. Another guy who hasn't changed a bit is Brian Chatton from Bolton. ex warriors, The Hollies and Meatloaf.

pifco 04-07-2013 15:51

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Jaysay would the pianist from up Willows Lane be Ricky Pearson? He wrote several songs for Hermans Hermits who he managed for a time. He ran the Sportsmans Club up Peel Park on Friday nights for a time. He had a brother Eddie.


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