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simon 26-05-2005 21:53

Lee Leaving..........
 
Tonights observer suggests that if the offer for Lee McEvily is a good one he may be leaving....!!!!

What do you think?? A good move to turn a profit on him ?? or Silly to let such a positive and inspirational player LEAVE..... when we are aiming for the league ourselves???

I would hate to see him leave myself...........:(

Cafu01 26-05-2005 22:17

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I really hope we keep him, he would be a key player this season and help us win promotion

keyco 26-05-2005 22:37

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same here if we lose evil well be losing a really good player so coley should make the right desion and keep him

MichiganRed 26-05-2005 22:50

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I personally would hate to see him move on. From my vantage point, he seemed to be a very positive force on the pitch and a player whose personal growth could match that of the club to the benefit of both.

Henry Morton 27-05-2005 01:36

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I hope that it's just the usual inter-season gossip.

Lee is so highly regarded here that I'd be shocked at his departure. He has a wonderful relationship with Stanley fans, he's playing what is arguably the best football of his life, and he has a fantastic season ahead of him . . . including a significant chance of promotion.

Wages are always negotiable, so unless there are family matters to which we are not privy, I can't imagine him leaving ASFC for any other club below League One.

Christies Child 27-05-2005 06:42

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Lee would be a very big loss to you guys......but a definate PLUS to his new club........whoever that might be! ! ! ! ! !

Don't ya just luv the silly season?

harwood red 27-05-2005 07:59

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Noooooo, if you're reading this evil....DON'T GO, please!!!! His pace on the pitch is almost unmatchable (is that a word???)

Wynonie Harris 27-05-2005 08:12

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Yes, it is a word and it's a word which neatly sums up Lee. His departure would be a massive blow to next season's promotion drive. Let's hope it's an unfounded rumour!

smudgie 27-05-2005 08:55

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i really hope he doesnt leave, would be a disaster

Outback Ozzy 27-05-2005 09:27

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From a personal point of view, and after seeing some of the on-field antics at close hand, I would not be too sorry if McEvil left. Yes it would be better to retain his services because he is a fantastic player, but he does have a suspect temperament. Any fee Stanley get for him could quite feasibly be used on getting new players in at the club. NO player is indispensible including all the fans favourites.

Whalley Red 27-05-2005 09:32

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Selling Evil to make a profit on him is no excuse. Just remember what happened when we sold Brett in March 1997 ... we only avoided narrowly relegation the next season and then we had our only ever relegation the year after that.

If he's set on moving, it will be difficult to keep him. But if he wants to stay, this will be a signal of the club's ambition :mad:

harwood red 27-05-2005 11:21

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I know what you're saying outback but I do feel that lee's temperament is a big part of why he's the great player he is.

RossendaleRed 27-05-2005 20:38

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I hope he stays as he always seem to give his all. Got a feeling and i may be wrong but could Carlisle be the league club offering money for him? Did Paul Simpson buy him whilst he was manager at Rochdale? I saw report from a game where Dale beat Orient in London and Evil scored the winner, he could have had a hat trick. Simpson spoke very highly of him after that match...then again he had a fall out with a manager at Dale and I cannot remember which manager it was (it could have been simpson!)

Anyway when Evil and Mr Coleman fell out towards the end of the season did they patch things up? Is that why he is being sought after from league clubs? He played such a big part at the club last season, i cannot believe that he could be sold. If it was a premiership side that was interested or even a championship side then fair enough, give the lad a chance type thing, to improve himself, but if it is Carlisle or Bury or a team in league two, then why sell him?

dutchman 28-05-2005 22:02

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hes on his his wat to carlisle .come on ye blues

KIPAX 28-05-2005 22:22

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Begins with W not C ...........

Mik Griff 28-05-2005 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dutchman
hes on his his wat to carlisle .come on ye blues

Worst piece of English I have ever seen.

Mind.. You lot are Scottish really....

dutchman 28-05-2005 23:15

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yes but we are in the championship.

big al 28-05-2005 23:16

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Lee is only what, 22 has seen a brill first season & potential that the club has as a professional outfit. He also came from Rochdale as an out of favour player but under a manager that was regarded as a pratt, seen Coleys no nonsence attitude-re Lutel, Rory & perhaps has learnt a lot more about the inside of football this last year. However no one player makes a team & if his ambition is to progress, & who wouldn't in their right mind with his skills, neither the club or manager will stand in his way. Speculation never helps but will always be with us as long as it sells news-correct or speculative.

cashman 28-05-2005 23:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Whalley Red
Selling Evil to make a profit on him is no excuse. Just remember what happened when we sold Brett in March 1997 ... we only avoided narrowly relegation the next season and then we had our only ever relegation the year after that.:

sorry mate selling to make a profit is no excuse-its buisness! it happens at every club in the land-bar about 4/5,i agree its a real sickener for any fan when this happens but its reality.

Adam Cottier 29-05-2005 01:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dutchman
yes but we are in the championship.


no, Its called Coca-Cola League 2 actually

greenun 29-05-2005 10:07

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We still follow Lee's career with interest at Burscough and understand Wrexham are the club hoping to sign him. Not sure how secure their future is though!

John_Timmins 29-05-2005 10:19

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didnt lee have a fall out with rory last season??? maybe its either one or the other for next season as coley might want to keep moral high for next year promotion push!

harwood red jr 29-05-2005 19:46

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I ope not but if e does stanley will still fly high its a team game com on!

harwood red 29-05-2005 23:17

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Hey JR I'll have proper english on here thanks I brought you up better than to speak/type like that!!!!

KiTChener 31-05-2005 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Cottier
no, Its called Coca-Cola League 2 actually

You condescending PRATT!!!!

Henry Morton 01-06-2005 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KiTChener
You condescending PRATT!!!!


I missed that one, Kitch.

Isn't Mr Cottier correct in his observation that League 2 isn't The Championship ?

Or am I a Dutchman ?

smudgie 01-06-2005 09:25

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does any1 know which club it is????

if lee leaves i can almost guarantee that its because Coleman has not patched it up with him!

signals stanleys intentions i agree.

Adam Cottier 01-06-2005 12:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KiTChener
You condescending PRATT!!!!


what??????????????

Bazf 01-06-2005 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Cottier
what??????????????

Main Entry: condescending
Function: adjective
: showing or characterized by condescension : PATRONIZING
- con·de·scend·ing·ly http://www.merriamwebster.com/images/audio.gif /<tt>-'sen-di[ng]-lE</tt>/ adverb

Thought you would have known that as an English major or is it another waste of tax payer money.

Adam Cottier 01-06-2005 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazf
Main Entry: condescending
Function: adjective
: showing or characterized by condescension : PATRONIZING
- con·de·scend·ing·ly http://www.merriamwebster.com/images/audio.gif /<TT>-'sen-di[ng]-lE</TT>/ adverb

Thought you would have known that as an English major or is it another waste of tax payer money.

What is patronizing?

Do you not mean Patronising?

Bazf 01-06-2005 13:23

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Wow you don't use both? does that mean you will only be able to write for english publications, pity it a big world outside of Lancashire.

BULLET 02-06-2005 21:02

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The rumour that Evil is leaving is true. Stanley have accepted a bid from Wrexham, this is from a very reliable source just so you know. Big loss to Stanley, but what Stanleys loss is Wrexhams gain.

KIPAX 02-06-2005 21:23

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Bullet .. we know.. its in the paper.. everything bar the club name which was posted on here anyways....

BULLET 02-06-2005 22:02

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Kipax.....what Do You Think??....stanley Have Made A Profit On Him,so Why Not Sell Him.

KIPAX 02-06-2005 22:06

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He is one of the best players we have.. Money cant replace that..

BULLET 02-06-2005 22:15

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It Would Be Hard To Replace Evil Like,but **** Happens.......it Was Only A Matter Of Time Till A League Club Came In For Him,we Were Lucky To Get Him In The First Place Anyway.

KIPAX 02-06-2005 22:25

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It used to be called "paper money" ... It means.. whatever money we get for him then that is what he is worth. Thus to replace him its gonna cost just as much. to find someone as good (although he is a one off) we would need to spend the same amount... so we are not gaining. If you could find a player as good cheaper. then why don't wrexham buy the other player and save money.

There isn't another Evil. there are other attackers but I have never seen one like Evil who can scare the apponant just by staring at him. He is an attacker like no other and I don't think he can be replaced... The best we can do is change the approach to our attack to suit a different style of player.

Yes he probably will go and I as well as just about every other stanley fan will be sad to see him go... these things do happen... But given the choice I would rather see him stay....

BULLET 02-06-2005 22:31

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Its In The Region Of £25.000 Thats What Av Been Told,to Be Fair On His Day He Is The Best Striker In The Conference Or Was The Best Striker In The Conference,are Stanley Struggling For Cash Or Somethin Thats Why Were Selling Him,or Is £25.000 Too Good To Turn Down....

MichiganRed 03-06-2005 02:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BULLET
Is £25.000 Too Good To Turn Down....

In my opinion, that is not nearly enough to part with the Evil One. The stated ambition of the club is a return to the Football League and his presence in the side brings the realization of that goal closer to fruition. I believe that he can be one of those special players whose value cannot be determined by statistics alone and who should be retained even in the face of "reasonable" offers, providing he has the desire to stay and grow with the club.

Wynonie Harris 03-06-2005 07:30

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Don't understand this. Wrexham are currently in administration. They have been given leeway to recruit up to 20 players and "special dispensation may be given to pay small fees in certain instances." Surely, £25,000 is somewhat more than a "small fee" (although it's not nearly enough for a player of Evil's considerable talents). Also, just what is the lad thinking of, moving from a small, but financially well-run club to one in dire straits? He must be mad (although I wouldn't want to tell him that to his face!).

smudgie 03-06-2005 08:58

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25k???? what a joke!!!

hes worth double that if not more, fair enough if he wants to leave we cant stop him!
What a shame tho, will be very hard to replace him

KIPAX 03-06-2005 09:12

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I wouldn't go reading too much into the 25k figure.I would be 99.99% sure that was the first fgure he thought of when writing the message.......

Wynonie Harris 03-06-2005 10:25

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It still mystifies me as to how a club in administration can be splashing dosh around and why any ambitious player would want to go there.

Cafu01 03-06-2005 10:36

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Didnt we pay £50k for Craney, if so, then Evil is worth more than Craney

zayno14 03-06-2005 11:22

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15k fearon i think, i am suprised wrexham have any money to spare :unsure8: big loss but hopefully we can get over it and sign a replacement

Steph 03-06-2005 11:27

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why dont they take the money that is raised by selling evil and invest in the youth squad instead of looking round for someone else cos in the long run it would be financially more sound to do this then when the time comes you could sell more than one player and reep the benefits of this strategy

KIPAX 03-06-2005 11:36

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You mean sell one of our main strikers and NOT replace him for 5 years or so in the hope that a youth player is good enough to take his place... just do without him for a few years ?

I hope your good at ironing luv............. :)

Smiffy16 03-06-2005 11:40

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I think Wrexham will end up selling that 'Juan Ugarte' fella, maybe if he goes they might make some money available for Lee?

Although it is a move to the football league I feel this move may backfire on Lee and IMO Wrexham are on their way down because of their financial status, whereas we have a good financial status and a potential to get in the league this coming season.....

Stay with us Lee, we'll be in the league next year!

Steph 03-06-2005 11:43

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the english leagues are neglecting the youth schemes of yesteryear and then the fans ask why clubs are going into administration and its because everyone wants to but in from abroad or from other clubs and the knockon effectis that
1, the youth are not found
2, clubs are spending money they dont have,
3, the youth that are around dont get the chance to advance up the ranks (ie conference to league 2)
4, the big clubs have nothing to look at and therefore buy from abroad,
5,the national sides fail to produce anything
6, revenue drops,
7, CLUBS THEN GO INTO ADMIN

KIPAX 03-06-2005 11:50

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Get a grip.. This is accy stanley not liverpool or chelsea.. we have a good youth setup and players do come through the ranks and play for the team. did you know that or where you just jumping in ?

We simply cant sell a player of this quality and not replace him or wait years to do so.

Smiffy16 03-06-2005 11:56

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Yep, we cant replace Evil with an un-experienced youth player its a silly suggestion and its definately not going to happen!

Steph 03-06-2005 12:06

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i know but why not invest in the youth cos as the song goes "i believe the children are our future, teach tem well and let them lead the way" lol

JEFF 03-06-2005 12:20

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Quote:

Get a grip.. This is accy stanley not liverpool or chelsea.. we have a good youth setup and players do come through the ranks and play for the team. did you know that or where you just jumping in ?
Who was the last player who came through the ranks and played for the team ?

Steph 03-06-2005 12:27

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who says you have to be liverpool or chelsea to use the youth squad, one of the best clubs in the world forthe youth set up is ajax and they start training the children from about aged 6 and if they are good they stick them on a 12 yr contract in which they have to play for whoever ajax deem fit and then they are allowed to talk to any other club, but anyway i digress, using the youth team makes sense for the simple reasons it would keep a constant flow of english youth players going through the system, it brings in revenue when they are sold and it gives the fans new blood to look at.

John_Timmins 03-06-2005 12:28

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Stanley already have a decent youth development system for a club of our size and with the addition of the training with stanley and going to college scheme being introduced this year i think? they are improving. but it is a slow process to build good foundations for the future

KIPAX 03-06-2005 12:31

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ok lets sell evil and spend the money on the youth squad... it MIGHT bring up a player to replace him in 5+ years... we can do without him or a replacement till then eh...



I should know better than to argue with women really... always best to just nod and agree :)

Steph 03-06-2005 12:32

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i see your point lee and i agree with what is ahppening there however how would they fund these things without having to cash in now and again on players who make a name for themselves

Steph 03-06-2005 12:39

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there is one thing that i believe should made mandatory tho and that is when a player in the higher divisions such as the premiership when they are transferred, a percentage f the transfer fee should be used to help the lower clubs whether they be in debt or to help the youth acadamies around the country

KIPAX 03-06-2005 12:43

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what a grand idea.... also if a premiership club gets over say 30 thousand fans on a game.. then the rest of the money should be split between lower clubs... ooer and if they sell a million shares then any more sold and they should give the money to non league clubs... hmmm what about for every 100 pies they sell.. they give 50pence to lower league clubs.. imagine all the pies sold on a full premiership sat...

Steph 03-06-2005 12:49

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most of them are eaten by patrick (pieman) kluivert lol but do you see what i mean because they make the money and the lower clubs have to struggle to get by andthey cannot compete in the markets or in the training of the youth

KIPAX 03-06-2005 12:55

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baldrick had better plans in blackadder :)

Steph 03-06-2005 12:57

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well i think that is a decent idea so there

KIPAX 03-06-2005 13:06

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hehe did you stamp your feet as you pressed post :)

Steph 03-06-2005 13:12

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yes i did and if i want i will do it again so na na lol

John_Timmins 03-06-2005 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steph
but do you see what i mean because they make the money and the lower clubs have to struggle to get by andthey cannot compete in the markets or in the training of the youth

no i don't see wat u mean!!!!

Football is now a business and could u ever see a huge company like microsoft saying "ahh look that little computer shop in accy is not making millions of pounds and harvesting the brightest young minds in IT" so then Bill gates turns around and says "ok then, for every thing we sell we will give accy computers 10% of our profit"


Is that how everygood business works???

Steph 03-06-2005 14:13

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but we have academies from future it whizzes they are called schools and colleges and there is even a place called a university, whereas we have ver few sports acadamies around the country


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