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Morecambe_Red 14-08-2005 08:33
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I had to wait until my NLP came today to confirm that the attendance at The Interlink Express Stadium was just 1,012.

The lowest in the Conference even below that of Forest Green.

First game of the season so this does not bode well. T'Rovers were away too.

What do you guys think was the reason for this.

KIPAX 14-08-2005 09:14
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Thats how many fans we have on a rainy day. simple as that.. Try and live with it.

Robaldo 14-08-2005 09:44
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Originally Posted by KIPAX
Thats how many fans we have on a rainy day. simple as that.. Try and live with it.
So putting a roof behind each goal would pay for itself within a couple of months?

KIPAX 14-08-2005 09:55
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haha would it hell as like.. Are you expecting a massive downpour like that every sat for the next few years? :)

garinda 14-08-2005 11:00
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Although it was a nasty day, the match was dry, and the sun even shone when we scored a goal.:)

flying red 14-08-2005 11:25
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I wish the F.A. or who ever it is would hurry up with this grant. The covers were a factor yesterday but thats just life. We have to wait for the money its to much to ignore it. Come on summer give us a bit more sun on non working days.

Blackburn Stanley 14-08-2005 11:44
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Originally Posted by flying red
I wish the F.A. or who ever it is would hurry up with this grant. The covers were a factor yesterday but thats just life. We have to wait for the money its to much to ignore it. Come on summer give us a bit more sun on non working days.
I agree, I went along yesterday with two Rovers fans and if the ground was better, I'm sure more people (how many I don't know, but even an extra fifty would have meant more money - an extra £500 for the club) would attend games. I'm sorry but from what I've seen over the last couple of seasons our ground is one of the worst in this league. If the other grounds can have covered ends, then why can't we?

Smiffy16 14-08-2005 11:53
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I'm sorry but from what I've seen over the last couple of seasons our ground is one of the worst in this league. If the other grounds can have covered ends, then why can't we?
Obviously havent visited a lot of other conference grounds then.......ours is an average ground.....a lot of others are sh*tholes, if our ground was like Gravesend, Hereford, FGR, Tamworth and Farnborough last season then I'd worry :)

garinda 14-08-2005 12:06
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Originally Posted by Blackburn Stanley
I agree, I went along yesterday with two Rovers fans and if the ground was better, I'm sure more people (how many I don't know, but even an extra fifty would have meant more money - an extra £500 for the club) would attend games. I'm sorry but from what I've seen over the last couple of seasons our ground is one of the worst in this league. If the other grounds can have covered ends, then why can't we?
An extra 50 adult fans @£12 a pop would be £600 in the club's coffers.

KIPAX 14-08-2005 12:10
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So what your all saying is... get a roof costing thousands of pounds... pay for it on the tick using the dosh from when more fans arrive in the rain to go under the roof... hope it rains every sat for the next few seasons to pay for it...

hmmmmm :)

Blackburn Stanley 14-08-2005 12:28
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Originally Posted by garinda
An extra 50 adult fans @£12 a pop would be £600 in the club's coffers.

Only if all those fifty paid the full price. What about the kids and OAP's? An average of a tenner each was my guess.

However an extra fifty would also mean more programme sales. Food/Drink sales. Maybe club shop sales. It all adds up.

Blackburn Stanley 14-08-2005 12:32
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Originally Posted by Smiffy16
Obviously havent visited a lot of other conference grounds then.......ours is an average ground.....a lot of others are sh*tholes, if our ground was like Gravesend, Hereford, FGR, Tamworth and Farnborough last season then I'd worry :)

I've never been on Farnboroughs ground, but their out of the top flight anyway now. Tamworth and FGR were poor, I'll grant you that. Gravesend have an average ground. However Hereford - come on man, this use to be a Division Two (what they call the championship now) ground. I think Herefords - Edgar Street ground is one of the best in our league - if not the best (although I've not been on Cambridge Ubited).

Perhaps you should start a thread on the best - and worst grounds in the Conference?

Robaldo 14-08-2005 13:56
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Originally Posted by KIPAX
So what your all saying is... get a roof costing thousands of pounds... pay for it on the tick using the dosh from when more fans arrive in the rain to go under the roof... hope it rains every sat for the next few seasons to pay for it...

hmmmmm :)
I tell ya something though: what a roof at each end would do for the atmosphere would add hundreds to the attendances! More whipping up of the crowd using the tannoy would help too.

How much would a roof at each end cost? Anyone know the numbers?

Bazf 14-08-2005 15:43
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Couldn't we use the undisclosed money from the sale of players this year or were they worth less then a roof?

harwood red 14-08-2005 16:00
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Originally Posted by Blackburn Stanley
I've never been on Farnboroughs ground, but their out of the top flight anyway now. Tamworth and FGR were poor, I'll grant you that. Gravesend have an average ground. However Hereford - come on man, this use to be a Division Two (what they call the championship now) ground. I think Herefords - Edgar Street ground is one of the best in our league - if not the best (although I've not been on Cambridge Ubited).

Perhaps you should start a thread on the best - and worst grounds in the Conference?
Hereford's ground best in the league!!!????!!!! YOU ARE HAVING A LAUGH :confused:

Smiffy16 14-08-2005 16:01
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I think Herefords - Edgar Street ground is one of the best in our league
You ever been? Think those who have will back me up that Herefords is one of the poorest, cue 'Edgar Street is falling down' :)

I'll add Canvey's too that list too and Crawley and Southport oh and Alty :):) Gravesend average???? that is the conference's WORST ground by a golden mile :)

harwood red 14-08-2005 16:03
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ooo just beat you to it smiffy, in fact just gone back to make sure that they really did say that Edgar St is best in league. Shock horror they did!!! that place is a dump!!!

Blackburn Stanley 14-08-2005 16:42
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Originally Posted by harwood red
Hereford's ground best in the league!!!????!!!! YOU ARE HAVING A LAUGH :confused:

No I said 'one of the best' - and thats my view. It may be an old ground, but it has two good sized covered ends, and two seated stands along the sides - one quite big if I remmber correctly. Home fans stand in the Meadow End and make a hell of a racket! The away end - the Blackfrairs end is the same size I think and creates for a good sing-song too.

Stevenage Boro is nice, as is Morecambe (which just needs one more stand along the open side), the other good grounds are all ex-league sides, so its really unfair to count them together with sides that have never been 'up there'.

I've never been to Cambridge United, but like Hereford they were once in the old second division (championship) so I guess they have a smart ground.

KIPAX 14-08-2005 16:57
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Hereford is miles better than our ground.. yes its delapidated and could do with brightening up.. But we should dream of a ground that big, Stands that big.. Big covered terrace.. Massive car parks..

Stevenage is by far the best ground in the league IMHO. Not just the ground but the whole setup.

Robaldo 14-08-2005 18:00
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Originally Posted by KIPAX
Hereford is miles better than our ground.. yes its delapidated and could do with brightening up.. But we should dream of a ground that big, Stands that big.. Big covered terrace.. Massive car parks...
The trouble with grounds that big, stands that big, big covered terrace etc is that the maintenance costs an absolute fortune. I'd prefer to see a tidy little ground like Stanley's, with lots of room for expansion if needed, and the rest of the money spent on getting decent players. Having done it at another club, I can tell you that the fewer the crush barriers that need painting, the better!

Stanley's ground is perfectly up to the job... just wish it had a roof at each end to improve the atmosphere and therefore improve the crowds, which would improve the atmosphere, which would improve the crowds... The roof needn't cover the whole terrace - just covering the middle third would transform the place.

John_Timmins 14-08-2005 19:15
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Originally Posted by KIPAX
Hereford is miles better than our ground.. yes its delapidated and could do with brightening up.. But we should dream of a ground that big, Stands that big.. Big covered terrace.. Massive car parks..

Exactly

The away end is also the worst but with a bit of weeding the concrete and a lick of paint it would be one of the very best in confernce as well as league 2

qualtrough 14-08-2005 21:14
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Some factors: It was a lousy, mainly rainy, day; Not everybody is an Ultra-type fan and the increase to twelve quid a throw has clearly, and not altogether unexpectedly, made some people think twice ( especially as the football, as seen against one of the poorer teams in the Conference, ain't got no better); holidays; Forest Green played Cambridge whose supporters were clearly 60% of the crowd so forget that little dig!; the cricket on TV was pretty absorbing; a lot stayed at home sticking pins in Morecambe dolls and wondering why we signed a right back to stand in for Cav when necessary and then played that womble Williams there instead!

Smiffy16 14-08-2005 21:19
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I think the best grounds for sure are Stevenage and Exeter......Grays looks very bad too :)

Redskin 14-08-2005 21:40
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Originally Posted by qualtrough
Some factors: It was a lousy, mainly rainy, day; Not everybody is an Ultra-type fan and the increase to twelve quid a throw has clearly, and not altogether unexpectedly, made some people think twice ( especially as the football, as seen against one of the poorer teams in the Conference, ain't got no better); holidays; Forest Green played Cambridge whose supporters were clearly 60% of the crowd so forget that little dig!; the cricket on TV was pretty absorbing; a lot stayed at home sticking pins in Morecambe dolls and wondering why we signed a right back to stand in for Cav when necessary and then played that womble Williams there instead!

Nail, head, and hit, spring to mind!

Tin Monkey 14-08-2005 21:46
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The only thing missing from qualtrough's explanation was the fact that Stanley have never been brilliantly supported for whatever reason.
The general public of Hyndburn are a pretty apathetic bunch and always have been. Having said that, there must be more than 1000 people in the borough who can be attracted to attend matches on a regular basis?

big al 14-08-2005 22:06
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Originally Posted by Blackburn Stanley
. However Hereford - come on man, this use to be a Division Two (what they call the championship now) ground. I think Herefords - Edgar Street ground is one of the best in our league - if not the best

Perhaps you should start a thread on the best - and worst grounds in the Conference?
Sorry but Hereford may have been the bees knees in the 70s but it is a crap hole now.
I went to Burtons ground on Saturday, (for reasons that will become clear when management get my notes), Despite a new ground, only one main stand with seating, capacity set at 6000 & only 1654 in attendance for a first in a new ground. Burton is nearly twice as big as Accy so when looked at pro rata & holiday season still on due to an earlier start to the season, when looked at pro rata dont think there is anything to complain about. Plus three points in the bag & that is what counts!

Doug 14-08-2005 22:08
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TM "The only thing missing from qualtrough's explanation was the fact that Stanley have never been brilliantly supported for whatever reason. The general public of Hyndburn are a pretty apathetic bunch and always have been. Having said that, there must be more than 1000 people in the borough who can be attracted to attend matches on a regular basis?"


That's a good point, but why……..Maybe people don’t get the message across to the public…..Is there any local support in the press? I’ve only ever seen one kid wearing a Stanley shirt in all the time I’ve been coming back. Does no one wear them; I see cart loads of England shirts on all shapes and size’s in accy centre on a Saturday, but never a Stanley Shirt. More effort should be spent on raising the clubs public profile in to the public arena, the cheapest way is to get people out in the shirts. Player profiles in the local press, free papers etc, and the kids press? School news letters and the like. Get the volunteers out on sports days. The Mela thing that was on last week not one shirt did I see and there was no Stanley Stand. I would have spent money had they been there……..

Henry Morton 14-08-2005 22:24
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A lot of sense talked, particularly by Robaldo, Qualtrough, Redskin, TM . . .
but what a pity it had to be as a result of some mischievous Stanley-baiting by Morecambe_Red - who should go back to school and learn his Shakespeare.

". . . wherefore art thou . . ?" doesn't mean "where" , but "why".

qualtrough 15-08-2005 09:29
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Shakespeare...??? They're only just up to Enid Blyton in those parts, methinks! Always remember, when you're in Morecambe you're half-way to Barrow! Wish I'd thought of that later....it's put me right off me cornflakes.

Robaldo 15-08-2005 10:01
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Do we have a supporters' club?
Do they have a sub-group devoted to increasing attendances?

We set up one of those groups at a previous club I was involved with, and managed to increase the attendances from 250 to over 1000, in the space of about six months. Hyndburn folks would be much easier to haul in than that lot.

KIPAX 15-08-2005 10:19
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As listed on the offical accrington stanley website

Supporters Clubs

  • Official Accrington Stanley Supporters Club
    www.stanleysupporters.co.uk
    The official supporters club for fundraising, Supporters Events and lots more.
  • Stanley Ultras Supporters Club
    www.stanleyultras.co.uk
    Away Travel, Supporters Events, Fans Football team and lots more
  • Official Accrington Stanley Junior-Reds
    www.junior-reds.co.uk
    The official supporters club for Stanley Juniors aged 12 and under.

Robaldo 15-08-2005 14:52
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And do any of them explicitly work on recruitment of new supporters?

KIPAX 15-08-2005 14:54
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hmm theres a reason I put the links in you know.... apart from the juniors they both have messageboards.. why not ask them ? :)

Robaldo 15-08-2005 15:05
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Don't we talk about such things on here, or something?

KIPAX 15-08-2005 15:15
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Originally Posted by Robaldo
Don't we talk about such things on here, or something?
of course we do.. on a regular basis.. many times and we all come up wity the same answers.. some the club do and some they dont.

my answer was to you asking what the clubs do.. i say why not ask them directly. it wasnt to put you off talking about it.. in fact its a subject close to my heart :) but you did ask about the clubs...

Robaldo 15-08-2005 17:02
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Some the club do, and some they don't.

And what happens to those things that the club don't do? They don't get done?

Adam Cottier 15-08-2005 18:03
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Kipax whats with all the .................. .................. ..................... in your posts ............ ......................................
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........................it........................ ......can...............................get....... ..............................a................... ................................bit............... .........................................like..... ............................your .................................................. feeling ............................................a ...........................bit.................... .......stretched.................

garinda 15-08-2005 18:20
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Originally Posted by Adam Cottier
Kipax whats with all the .................. .................. ..................... in your posts ............ ......................................
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........................it........................ ......can...............................get....... ..............................a................... ................................bit............... .........................................like..... ............................your .................................................. feeling ............................................a ...........................bit.................... .......stretched.................
Paddington, this post goes beyond great literature, it's become a piece of two dimensional art.

You can see why you got a lower second for your degree.:D


Well done, by the way.

Adam Cottier 15-08-2005 18:44
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That reminds me, Paddington coat will be out tomorrow if the weather reamains distinctly crap!!

maidstoneaccy 15-08-2005 19:06
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robaldo if youve done it before why dont you volentere your services

Morecambe_Red 15-08-2005 22:26
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Originally Posted by Henry Morton
A lot of sense talked, particularly by Robaldo, Qualtrough, Redskin, TM . . .
but what a pity it had to be as a result of some mischievous Stanley-baiting by Morecambe_Red - who should go back to school and learn his Shakespeare.

". . . wherefore art thou . . ?" doesn't mean "where" , but "why".
it wasnt mischievous Stanley-baiting. it was a genuine attempt at a stimulating debate.
1,012 is very worrying for the first league game of the season although the weather may have affected it. It was sunny as usual here on the coast!

I realised the error in the Skakespeare quote but coulnt be bothered to edit it.

Doug 15-08-2005 23:20
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[QUOTE=Adam Cottier, reamains distinctly crap!!

Now, that works for me..........................:D

Bazf 16-08-2005 02:28
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Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red
it wasnt mischievous Stanley-baiting. it was a genuine attempt at a stimulating debate.
Yeah right...

Robaldo 16-08-2005 07:58
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Originally Posted by maidstoneaccy
robaldo if youve done it before why dont you volentere your services
Love to. Just trying to find out who I need to volunteer to... which is turning out to be quite difficult!

Willie Miller 16-08-2005 08:19
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Speak to me at a game Mr Robaldo as it is the Ultras mission to increase attendance......:)

Robaldo 16-08-2005 11:18
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Originally Posted by Willie Miller
Speak to me at a game Mr Robaldo as it is the Ultras mission to increase attendance......:)
okey dokey.

I assume you'll be near a huge flag with "Stanley Ultras" written on it, right?

Smiffy16 16-08-2005 13:38
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I've boosted our away support a certain R.Prendergast will be at the game tonight :)

Tin Monkey 16-08-2005 13:41
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Originally Posted by Smiffy16
I've boosted our away support a certain R.Prendergast will be at the game tonight :)
I'd better be careful coming back from the tea-van then, as I've heard he goes down very easily. ;)

sparkie 16-08-2005 14:45
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it was been broadcast that mr prendergast was coming to both the wigan game and smithy's testimonial, but sadly his commitments with blackpool stopped him from attending. I hope we do see rory tonight but in the nicest possible way, i'll believe it when i see it!

Hope he is there though.

Henry Morton 17-08-2005 21:13
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Originally Posted by Adam Cottier
Kipax whats with all the .................. .................. ..................... in your posts ............ ......................................
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........................it........................ ......can...............................get....... ..............................a................... ................................bit............... .........................................like..... ............................your .................................................. feeling ............................................a ...........................bit.................... .......stretched.................
Adam , I must own up .

About four years ago I introduced the ellipsis (for that is its name , as I'm sure you'll recall from your several years of studying the English language) , into my correspondence on the Official ASFC forum which preceded our current - and independent - virtual organ .
Before that it was noticeable by its absence .

I felt , and still feel , that it is one of the most useful pieces of punctuation for those who wish to post on forums such as ours . It helps the reader to imagine a pause in the "spoken" sentence and it creates a sense of what actors and comedians know as "timing" in the delivery of a line .

Since its introduction , the ellipsis has been wholeheartedly embraced by other correspondents to both the former and the present forums , and I'm pleased to have been instrumental in its adoption .

Of course , some posters will eschew its use altogether while others will wear the damned thing out completely .

Overall , though , I think it's a Good Thing and should be incorporated into our miniature masterpieces of prose whenever it is needed , but always with the understanding that there should be a maximum of three points . . .

Jimbo T Hornblower 17-08-2005 21:32
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OLE... to... that... bollocks... whatever... it.. means...

Jumbo... T... Cornflower...

Henry Morton 17-08-2005 21:46
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Originally Posted by Jimbo T Hornblower
OLE... to... that... bollocks... whatever... it.. means...

Jumbo... T... Cornflower...

Ta , Jimbo !:D

maidstoneaccy 17-08-2005 22:14
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Cambridge is definatly the best ground in the confrence imho having been there last night, parking may be a bit of a problem but as i had permit last night not to sure??

Adam Cottier 17-08-2005 22:39
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Originally Posted by Henry Morton
Adam , I must own up .

About four years ago I introduced the ellipsis (for that is it's name , as I'm sure you'll recall from your several years of studying the English language) , into my correspondence on the Official ASFC forum which preceded our current - and independent - virtual organ .
Before that it was noticeable by its absence .

I felt , and still feel , that it is one of the most useful pieces of punctuation for those who wish to post on forums such as ours . It helps the reader to imagine a pause in the "spoken" sentence and it creates a sense of what actors and comedians know as "timing" in the delivery of a line .

Since its introduction , the ellipsis has been wholeheartedly embraced by other correspondents to both the former and the present forums , and I'm pleased to have been instrumental in its adoption .

Of course , some posters will eschew its use altogether while others will wear the damned thing out completely .

Overall , though , I think it's a Good Thing and should be incorporated into our miniature masterpieces of prose whenever it is needed , but always with the understanding that there should be a maximum of three points . . .
quite possibly, the best post i've ever read on this forum...........

KIPAX 17-08-2005 22:43
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well you can both go screw yourselves....................OK?

Henry Morton 18-08-2005 19:15
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Originally Posted by KIPAX
well you can both go screw yourselves....................OK?

Clockwise or Anti-Clockwise ?

MichiganRed 19-08-2005 02:25
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Karma for everyone. This is brillian stuff! I love you guys. You have just made my Thursday. :D


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