Clayton End Roof
 

Announcement to be made tomorrow. See official site.

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Yeah, I read that but I can't really say that i understand what a 'naming rights ceremony' actually is. Does it mean that a company has come forward to put a roof on the terrace, or does it mean something else?

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basically from what rob said at the supporters club meeting on monday, someone has come forward to 'Sponsor' and lend thier name to the roof when it is up.

However no mention of a date for the start of the roof building has yet been mentioned!!!

It'll be like the old KIPPAX stand at maine road kind of thing. (sorry tony!)

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Oh... so Kipax is paying for the roof is he?

















;) :D :D

Thanks for the clarification btw sparkie.

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Does this mean that the Clayton End won't be the Clayton End anymore, but will now be the Bloggs Self-Tapping Screw Company End or whatever?

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i was mearly using the old kippax stand as an example as i couldn't think of another named stand, i have no prior knowledge on the situation!!!!:p :o

I would imagine that it wouldn't be known as the clayton end terrace anymore like you said wynonnie i would imagine it would be 'The . . . . . . . . . . Stand'!!

Just guessing though.

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As long as somebody is paying money for it they can call it what they want.

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Just read it again
Where is the Clayton End covered terrace ?

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I think that was the general consensus at the meeting on Monday.

Stanleybabe :)

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I'm not sure that York fans have the same attitude to sponsorship now that their team plays at the Kit Kat Crescent!

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Come on Jeff - if they are havin a 'namin ceremony' surely there must be something to actually NAME???!

Perhaps its gonna be the Whalley Red end ;)

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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It might be the Jimmy Bell En.... ugh.... on second thoughts, perhaps not. ;)

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ha ha ha now that would be funny and the talk of the conference and I'm sure the press would have sommat to say :D

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I think Manchester City have got a stand called
The Colin Bell End or something like that

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Perhaps it should be the "Wits End" and set aside for the visiting supporters.

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And when its only half full we can call it......
No, let's not go there!!

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Actually, it's the Colin Bell stand not end. :)

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Just some info about Ilyas Khan for those who might never have heard of him before today....

From the Lancashire Evening Telegraph, first published Monday 5th Apr 1999.

HONG Kong banker Ilyas Khan is considering legal action in his bid to buy Accrington Stanley. Accrington-born Khan's bid was last week turned down by current chairman Eric Whalley, who claimed the club is not for sale.But Whalley's reaction has provoked a furious response from Khan, who has demanded an apology.Khan described Whalley's initial attitude as "full of invective and personal animosity".He said: "I am somewhat bemused by the sheer inventiveness of a number of Mr Whalley's statements but I have no doubt that all aspects of the matter will eventually come out in the wash."I am clearly interested in buying Mr Whalley's shares."He has been bad for the club, and for the community."Someone who is interested in building a club worthy of Accrington in the 21st century should be the major shareholder."The relationship between the degree of 'hands-on' management of Mr Whalley and the results of the club cannot be avoided."In any other commercial situation, the responsibility and accountability vested in the individual concerned, in this case Mr Whalley, would have led to some sort of consequence." Whalley said the quoted £750,000 for his 60 per cent stake was "irrelevant" and an off-the-cuff price.
But Khan, who owns 12 per cent of the club, said: "During my conversation last week, I asked Mr Whalley if it were possible to have a meaningful conversation on the question of his shareholding."In case Mr Whalley is still confused, I asked this question in order not to ascertain a value, but to prepare the ground for a formal offer."Despite the fact that I only asked Mr Whalley whether it was 'worth talking about his shares' he proceeded to tell me that he thought his shares were worth £750,000 and that, if I was able to offer him this amount, he would happily sell."At no time did Mr Whalley indicate this was a tongue in cheek comment."Indeed, Mr Whalley's rather breathless and loud response indicated the opposite of lightheartedness."
Khan, a 36-year-old Stanley fan, has instructed a British solicitor to tackle the question of minimum rights of minority shareholders.His plans for the club include professional management at commercial and playing level as well as an expanded board to include representatives from the town, supporters and players.He added: "I am not implying that the current manager is inadequate in any way - I will leave those decisions for people more qualified."In fact, as far as I can see, the current coaching staff are the last people to be blamed and are struggling manfully in difficult conditions."
:)

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Hang on a min - have I missed sumat? Why has Ilyas been mentioned here?

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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because he has named the new clayton end after his mother!


And with a suit like that how can we call him??? :D

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Sorry just read the fishy site... good on him...

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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Didnt know about that.

I assume he didn't get anywhere legally then??

Sounds like the sort of guy who would be good for the club. He's obviously keen as I would assume he's paid some, if not all, of the cost of this roof.

I guess they have buried there differences??

Can anyone tell us more about this?? Is the club Erics 'baby'??

Sounds like an awesome opportunity to take the club to bigger things was passed up there for a personal reason, never a good sign!!

We have that problem at Everton at the moment with Bill Kenwright. He doesn't have the personal wealth to invest what the club needs to progress yet he will find a problem with anyone willing to invest basically because he doesn't want to relinquish power.

Not good.

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Hold on a minute!

In April 1999, Stanley were about to be relegated to the Unibond First Division. Eric's appointment of John Coleman and Jimmy Bell, plus the money that he has invested into this club have turned it around. I'd hold back on any talk of lost opportunities if I were you :mad:

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Yeah i agree WR, King Eric has done wonders for us!

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Woooah there, im only asking.

The guys clearly a mad keen Stanley fan, im just saying.

As an outsider I just get the impression that Stanley is run 'on the cheap' at the moment, a bit tin pot if you will.

They have the begging bowls out at every turn be it for a roof or seemingly just a bit of advertising of match ticket offers "helped by our main partner oswadtwistle mills".

Surely a man with that kind of wealth and some serious ambition could only be good for the club??

Football is a business nowadays, there is no room for sentiment.

Bill Kenwright is a great Evertonian but he is not a great chairman for the simple reason that he lets his own love of the club get in the way of commercial progress. IMO thats not healthy.

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Stavros You Are Right On A Buisness Basis, But I Can See Where W R And Zanyo 14 Are Coming From

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Eric isn't making the club 'tin-pot' as you call it, he is being very careful and is pushing the club forward at a very healthy pace. I for one am 100% behind Eric

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There a dozens of clubs who relied on single backers to pave the way for their success and are now suffering for doing so, once the backer got fed up and dropped out.

It's ok these 'money people' coming in and buying success, but once they've gone the club has to pick up the pieces, often leagues lower than where they started.

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This cat Ilyas doesn't sound like that to me.

It sounds like he has a long term commitment to Stanley ANYWAY and is still helping the club with the stand etc.

The conference is a decent level and there are a lot of ambitious chairmen out there. No disrespect to eric but if we are scratching around to put a poxy roof on a stand what hope is there of competing for the top players??

Having read this guys(khan)list of business interests he sounds like a serious player to me, the kind of guy who could get us out of the conference in a flash.

Im only speculating anyway, now they're mates and stuff im guessing he's not interested anymore??

If he was though I think it would be foolish not to look at it.

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What is the point in having someone come in and just throw loads of money at the club. Do we really want to feel in debt to one single person like the chelsea crew seem to be. Maybe it works at prem level but I believe at our level we have to establish a business not just throw money at it. Eric has put an un told amount of his personal money into stanley but is only to aware that he won't be around for ever so has set about making the club as self sufficient as possible as well as building a successful football team/club with the current management/fans. I for one are with them all the way :D . Yeah I may make my criticism's but believe it to be constructive and not destructive.

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It's great that Ilyas Khan is putting more money into the club. He is a shareholder and has put up money for ground development in the past, but to say that he should run the club instead of Eric shows again how little you know about this club.

You may have missed it, but Ilyas Khan lives in South-East Asia and gets back to Lancashire no more than five times per year. And he should be the chairman! If you go to the club on any day, not just match day, you'll find that Eric is there or has been there. I'd much rather have his 'hands-on' approach any day.

He has always been a tough businessman and is running the club in exactly the same way. Eric has always kept a tight rein on the finances, and he needs to with our attendances, but Coley has not been denied the players that he wants. We have a much better squad than our attendances should be able to pay for and that is because the club is very good at attracting external finances and neither Eric nor Coley want money-seeking prima donnas like Darryl Clare at this club.

If we had a sugar daddy, maybe we could sign Darryl Clare or Paul Gascoigne as you indicated, but I can look at the examples of Hornchurch and Telford this year and say with confidence that with Eric at the helm, we will never follow their example.

I remember the stagnancy at the club under John Alty's chairmanship when we were playing in front of crowds of 200-300 in a very poor quality ground. Now we are on the threshold of a return to the League, the club is moving forward both on the pitch and off it and none of that would have been possible without Eric Whalley.

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It wasnt a dig at eric dont get me wrong. I have'nt been a fan long enough to know the ins and outs but I remember he did a great job at gt harwood when I was younger. He is obviously a good man.

It was just the figures mentioned in that article about Khan. Thats some serious coin. He could make a major impact at this level without even scratching the surface of wealth like that. He is obviously a keen Stanley man as well.

I am aware he resides in Hong Kong (or south east asia as you like to call it for dramatic effect) but I dont see that as a problem.

Once he had acquired ownership he could put his own people in place, people who he knows and trusts, to run things day to day. He could even use the current administration I dare say, although im not sure you would like.

It would be an exciting proposition and would definitely attract a lot of attention to the club.

As much as I enjoyed Saturady and I will be back it was still only 1300.

Couple of big names and a runaway lead would draw loads more down.

He could be the Roman Abramovich of Accy Stanley!!

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And I predict that Chelsea are heading for the rot that happened at Leeds....

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dont think so some how.

Leeds trouble was that they borrowed loads and owed loads on players..

Abramovich is bankrolling Chelsea PERSONALLY

People who are jealous of Chelsea say that, it wont happen though.

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OK, so, he's got all the worlds greats, all on daft amounts of money. Who's going to pay the wages when Roman gets bored and sods off? The club relies on Roman's money now, they are not self-sufficient

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Well, im guessing his plan is to make them the dominanat european force for years to come, in which case they will become self sufficient. They will enjoy all the trappings of being the most marketable club in the world.

If not, then they MAY have to downsize a little, get rid of some of the huge earners or renegotiate their contracts.

Its a far cry from 'doing a Leeds' though.

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Just been looking on the sponsorship section. It says that the Main Stand, the Whinney Hill Terrace and the "Coppice Stand" are available for sponsorship. Does this mean that the Coppice End is also going to have a roof?

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wasnt abramavich already a chelsea fan before he bought the club, in which case he wouldnt want to get rid off them

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Why does he have to become chairman as i see it the connection he has with the club is a very positiuve one for accrington stanley but yet i would say Erics is worth a damn lot more to the club therefore why not just leave it as it is and with eric and Mr Khan having a good business friendship i think the club will prosper!

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with regard to the talk of Mr Khan becoming chairman or not, pointless as this is as Eric is going nowhere. Is this not the guy who tried to buy the club for £250 000 a few years ago and was fobbed off by Eric stating that he wasn't interested even for a million quid. The Khan fella aint daft and had the choice of putting up or shutting up. He chose the latter and quietly joined the board and put money into the building of the Clayton terrace (i'm sure there is a plaque somewhere).

As regards to Eric taking the club forwards at a healthy pace, I agree thus far, but a roof over the terrace is 15 years overdue. Stanley home crowds have always felt flat compared to the vibrancy and buzz of away games. In recent years (since doubled crowds and success no doubt) home support has increased to a point where it can almost be heard from the bar when the telly is turned down. This is in no way a slight on the efforts but ****ing in the wind springs to mind. When the roof goes on I will wager 2 Barrows to a Southport and Moore that crowds will double within 2 months. A roof will amplify and retain all noise AND encourage more people to join in. Messrs Coleman, Bell and Whalley have all pleaded for the twelth man and to make the Crown (not the pub) a hostile place. Well heres your chance hierarchy, gizza tin roof and you will have 15th man on the field, carnivale on the terrace, another twelve grand a game on the gate, and as far as hostile goes, you can bring your Barrows, your Burtons, Blyths, Worksofts or even your dads: The Crown will be the daddy of them all.

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You're right in your assertion that the Clayton End Roof will make a big difference to attendances, but it's not because of the (undoubted) acoustic advantage which that structure will afford . . . it's because the comfort and dryness will retain fair-weather supporters whom we'd otherwise lose.

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...and isn't Malcolm Glazer a Manchester United fan? Just because they claim it, doesn't make it so. And who was the fella that bought Tottenham years ago, claiming to be a fan, but kept calling the club Hotspurs?

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I have a big Chelsea fan stayin with me at the moment and he tells me that Abramovich wasnt a Chelsea fan before he bought the club - he was a football fan and had seen the quality of the Premiership, liked it and wanted a piece of the action so to speak. Luckily for Chelsea, or unluckily, dependant on how you want to look at the situation, Ken Bates met Abramovich and convinced him that Chelsea was the club. Up until that point, all Abramovich had done was put his oil company on the front of CSKA Moscows shirts...

Ilyas will continue to support Stanley as he has been doing all this time - as a freind and supporter of the club - its just something like naming a stand/roof is obviously a more public thing for him to do... I bet you if, god forbid, Stanley were ever in danger of going under (cant see that under King Eric though) he would step in to help out too...
Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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Jesus, man! I got butterflies after that! Top Post & for me, the best thing I have heard on here ever!

Send it in to the club for the features page!!! & the Observer!

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Brilliant gestures from both Ilyas and Whalley Red and most of us are agreed that the roof is a Good Thing in terms of increased atmosphere, better acoustics and protection from the elements.

Now we're just missing one thing....a starting date?

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You're right in your assertion that the Clayton End Roof will make a big difference to attendances, but it's not because of the (undoubted) acoustic advantage which that structure will afford . . . it's because the comfort and dryness will retain fair-weather supporters whom we'd otherwise lose

well Henry you are half right

the younger kids love the singing and ask dads to fetch them back to the mighty stanley the roof will create a cracking sound from the ultras and that should help on the pitch.
Fair weather fans can stand under cover at each side but they still do not come why?

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Have you ever tried watching a game from the Whinney Hill side where you cannot see all of the touchline, or sitting in the stand with people walking in front of you ?

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Still waiting for a starting date...Rob?

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we haven't got one yet, but obviously with the naming deal in place we are as keen as ever to get it started!

rob

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OK, cheers, Rob.