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Well done Gary & Ian
Both the lads are in the final squad of 16 for the game at Cambridge on 15 February - full list is on confguide.:engsmil:
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...which means they'll be playing three games in five days! :eek:
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I hope Coley decides to withdraw them both from the squad...the internationals are of no real importance whereas our championship push must take priority.
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I can assure you they are of massive importance to Craney and Roberts and I daresay lots of other people and countries even. I agree its a worry and I wish they where NOT playing .. but then again I wish they where not playing this saturday and next tuesday. But i wouldnt say the whole national non league setup is of no importance. |
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I thought Gary was Welsh? ;)
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I wouldn't have thought the non-league game was that important to them, as, one way or another, they'll be playing league football in a few months' time.
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I ahave spoken to Jon Kennedy and Cav on the subject and they where proud as punch to play for the England XI .. It is a big thing to them.. I presume its the same for them all.
I should think pulling the England shirt on at any level is a big thing for a footballer or any sportsman... One life... take chances that might not happen again |
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Sigh.. nice bit of twisting :(
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Well done to Ian and Gary, they fully deserve it.
I do hope they play and Craney is made captain. They are young and they are full-time professionals and they are certainly capable of playing three games in SIX days. As Kipax said, the pride of playing for your country and the things that they will learn from playing with and against such good players, will only benefit the players as well as the Club. |
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All credit to them lets get behind them and give every ounce of our ort. They have a fantastic opportunity to play for their Country and not only that in doing so they are enforcing and promoting the good name of Accrington Stanley Football Club.
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Ok, well, I appear to be in the minority view here so I'll concede defeat...it still worries me though!!
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You're right KIPAX it was a sweeping statement and I should have gone further.
I meant that at this very moment, compared to our league games - the internationals are of no real importance; as they are not in a major world tournament or anything like that...they aren't 'essential' games if you will. |
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your still missing the point.. not important or essential to who ? I think you will find they are important to the players at the very least and a lot more people besides..
WH: We are all worried. I did say I would prefer they didnt play and didnt play in cup games.. league games only for me at this stage... Its the "not important" comments I would take to task. |
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Many many players should defo be rested for Tuesday & some for Saturday. I was gonna go to Hearts v Aberdeen this Saturday because for me the trophy sort of slips down the pecking order somewhat with regards to the important games coming up
Well done to Ian & Gary, but Coley "pull them out":rolleyes: |
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NOT IMPORTANT IN COMPASRISON TO LEAGUE GAMES
bloody hell, clear yet???? the internationals are mickey mouse matches which are completely unecessary - yes it makes the players proud to pull on an England shirt and represent their country but they hold no place at this stage of the season; to let important players play in these silly matches would be absurd. it's my opinion - disagree all you want but it would be in the best interest of the club to withdraw Gary & Ian. |
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I think it’s wonderful that we are afforded to opportunity to discuss these matters, but at the end of the day no matter how good we think we are, we or I should say the Club employs a professional manager and an assistant manager not to mention medical, physical and psychological practitioners and advisors and not least the players all of whom bear the responsibility of make these decisions on our, the supporters behalf. That’s why we’re top of the league.
Also these other games allow the team to play against other professional players who in turn directly or indirectly impart new tactics and skills to which we benefit from. The old adage of Practise Makes Perfect is none the less true and the more non conference practise our lads can get the better. Yes they need to be rested and fit, but it’s the skill and determination on the day that will grant us promotion. Just look on these side issues as training games and pray coleys got it right………… |
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The bottom line is we cant afford players to be getting more tired than is necesary at this stage of the season. 3 games in 5 days is absurd
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It's three games in SIX days.
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Playing for your country is what it is all about..It will be a tremendous moment for the boys and they fully deserve it..It may seem unimportant to us shakermaker but to them it is up there with the proudest moments of their lives..I'm sure the league is impoortant to the two but as is personal pride and representing your country..:engsmil:
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Calm down man...I apologize for how strong and ignorant my post came across....little embarassing reading it back...bad day coming out it stressed posts and all that.
Anyway; agreeing to disagree is the best way forward. Does the National Game XI still have the age-cap? I was wondering this when seeing that Pete Cav was not selected....is he too old now? |
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so you cant get past the first 3 words of a post? it wasnt a dig at you or anything like that why must you pick at anything and evrything you can? if anyone is the trouble maker it is you - i apologized and tried to move the thread on yet you bring the tone down once again....some people just arent worth the effort.
moving on...does anyone know why Pete Cav wasn't picked again? Is it because of his age? I heard he had a really good game the last time he played for the XI. |
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having a dig and apologising in the same sentence didnt work. does that surprise you..and you continuing to post telling me off isnt helping. you started with the attitude and I suggested we stop. you couldnt help yourself having a little dig with every post. insulting and calling me isnt making it better either.
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I tried to move the thread on but you refuse to do so and persist in this childish argument. Fine by me; get the last word as you so wish.
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and now you call me childish... like i say.. keep pushing.. keep insulting..
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Jesus Christ!!
Nursery Broke up for easter so early?? |
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Not older than 23 at the start of the season!
Very interested to read this thread and, I have to say, a bit surprised at some of the comments. We have released players to play for the England team for a few years now and I can assure you that the players do regard it as an Honour to play for their country even if it is a "non league" cap. It is unlikely that any of them will ever reach the heights of the full National team so any England shirt as a momento of their playing days should not be denied. How would you like one to show your children when they grew up - "yes son, this is the shirt I wore when I played for England"! Eight HUFC supporters went to Ireland to support our lads last year and we will be at Cambridge to support Tamika this time - how many of you will be there? You seem to have a bit to learn yet about being a successful team - and that is not knocking your acheivements this year! |
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every time I read a new article about our manager, or the pen pictures in away programmes, it describes him as a hugely succesful ex-semi-pro international with over 500 goals etc etc. It is a permanent record of the success they enjoyed during their career.
Gary Roberts and Ian Craney may well go on to bigger and better things or they may not. Rory should have played had he been a couple of years younger, now his career record will read X amount of games for Accrington Stanley, a handful of games for Blackpool followed by seeing out his career as a nomad. If Gary and Ian do not go on to see the big bright lights then these occasions will form the basis of their after-dinner speeches (at the in-laws). If they go up and up then these games will pale into insignificance, but for now they must have their moment. Kipax, leave the arguing eh! Shakermaker tried to apologise or at least partially retract his statement. It may not have been the most eloquent of apologies or retractions but it was, so quit it. Or have I missed a "whoosh moment" as these confguiders call it? |
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Stanley are Going Up.......
Are You? We're trying - again! |
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quick question for you HUFC fan; do you think you'd have had better results this season with David Brown and a fit Andy Tretton in your squad? Browny seems to have settled well and Tretts looks like he's adapting to the playin style of Stanley very well
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In Dean Beckwith we have a good replacement for Tretts (who I did like). We also had Blewitt on loan from "The 'ammers" 'til he went back in January. So, on that point, I'm happy enough.
The Browner issue is a bit more complicated. You may recall that both Ipoua and Stansfield (the intended Strikers) were both injured for a long period early season - neither played at your place - and at that time David Brown would certainly have been very useful to have on board. Other than that I would say that we have replaced him with a much better player in Ipoua. We have recently added a lad from Cardiff called Fleetwood who makes Browner look like a Sunday league player and have also seen the development of 19 year old local lad Andy Williams into a player who IMO will soon play at League 1 or even Championship level. So, the answer to your question (other than our injury crisis) is no. I was, of course, at your place to watch our early season defeat when we featured the illustrius Matt (the w*nker) Bailey as our centre forward and am fairly convinced that if we could have fielded Ipoua and Stansfield we would have won at a canter. I also went to Worcester ****ty to watch your demise in the cup replay and, again, was not overly impressed. However, your performance against the Cornish Wizards on Sky (apart from three dubious agricultural tackles) was good stuff and the result fully deserved. Your league position can only have been acheived by merit. For ourselves, I would say the injuries caused a great loss of confidence and only now are we starting to show our true potential - maybe late, but we're coming after you! If we can stay fit and string a couple more wins together, the game between ourselves at the "Street" should be a real cracker and not one for the "feint hearted" Mr Brown. Enjoy the rest of the season - well, most of it. Ex |
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I personally think that withdrawing the players would be a very bad decision from Coley...look at what happened to Elding at Stevanage after he was pulled out of the squad, big fallout with Westley over it, and he was soon shipped out. Personally, I feel the players have earned the right to play for the England side and will benefit immensely from playing against a squad of other great players like themselves. Good luck to them
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Haslingdon? Wheres that? Ohhhh, you mean Haslingden? :p
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Fine little boozer with it's own Brewery IIRC So, who's going to Cambridge then? |
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acording to todays (not always reliable) NLP gary is eligable to play for wales through his grandmother, so he may not be taking part anyway!
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Has anyone checked whether a player can represent two national sides if it is at two different levels? Surely it is only the same representing the England National Game XI as representing England Schoolboys (as Ryan Giggs did). It would a real downer for Gary if he missed out
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