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Just read the ground update. Looks like we won't be seeing bums in Burtons for a bit yet. Might be worth getting along for a raincoat for next season though!

Pity the cover has to play second fiddle to all the stuff that "officialdom" requires, but what has to be . . . :o

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Three years ago Eric stated in the programme that the first priority was a roof on the Clayton End. Since then the bar has been improved, the Gazelle lounge has appeared, new toilets at the Coppice End, now other improvements are being done, NO ROOF. If/when we get promoted we need to attract more fans, PEOPLE WILL NOT COME TO THE GAME IF THEY ARE IN DANGER OF GETTING WET. If it looks like rain we will certainly have a poor gate. Even if it adds 100 on to each home game, at £12.00 each this comes to £27600 for a season. We have been promised this roof for over three years. What is the situation ? According the the official site a presentation and question and answer night will be held on Tuesday at 7.30pm - what a coincidence that at that time a lot of interested parties will be at Morecambe.

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Whats the point in this thread???
already got 1 about this situation

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Might have missed reading something in the article, just scanned through and not seen it but....

I thought the away fans had to have some seats for thier supporters?

Also what would be good for next season is...
----- Box/Euro nets (which most clubs have and its really smart rather than the type we have
----- WHITE netting, the netting we currectly have isnt right good and you cant see it form the other side of the ground.
----- Thicker Posts, iv never known why we got these new goalposts which are very thin compared to 99% of other clubs.
----- Finally a better pitch please :)

Thats all for now ;) :D

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I've heard something about away fans needing seats, but I believe you are given a period of 3 years to sort this out. What the club are doing at the mo, is the stuff that NEEDS to be done before we enter the football league.

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Info on official site now........:)

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Wheel invented :) hehe

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Nets??? andThicker posts??? Not really a huge problem is it to be honest, tight budget and all that!

Better pitch we have got a great pitch but we just need to cut down on the amount of games played on it..but this also create increased revenue

therefore im sure all these ideas will be at the back of anyones mind!

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certain things required in order to play a higher level of football, FINE.
again refusing to adhere to the needs of long suffering fans, NOT FINE.

I know that some people will just go with the flow and the club knows best. I for one am really annoyed at the failure to cover us. We will now be in that end for ninety minutes every week. If the wind is blowing the right way then fine, if the wind is in your face it will be like that for nearly two hours. If you can move round then you only get the worst of the elements for a while but two hours is too much. FINE I'm a whinging git and the club can manage without my season ticket next year, but, its not just me. Its not just an extra couple of hundred fans paying £12+ every week, its the fans who will desert in their hundreds when the weather sets in. This is our one and only moment to really capitalise on the fans that will stream through the door when we return to league football after 44 years. This year we have struggled with crowds except the last couple of matches raising the average. People have seen us play in the conference but the lack of facilities did not encourage them back. The lack of atmosphere (despite the best efforts of the Ultras) did not encourage them back.

I want that roof. I do not count. WE NEED that roof. Do we count?

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It's going to be a bit cramped on Whinney Hill when it rains.

Give them the roof, I cherish my peace and quiet.

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unless you pays your money to get in the Eastern half of the Western half of the Whinney Hill Stand you wont get in there.

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Pesonally i think this situation has been dealt with very poorly, Why the delay in informing the fans on the roof situation.

O.K., I appreciate we have to prioritise esential work on the ground but i would like the club to come forward with the time schedule. It says within the statement(vaigley) work on the roof will start once other jobs are completed...

When are the expected completion dates?

Is there any chance the roof will be started before the start of next season?

A little more DETAIL required please.

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Macca for Ultras Roof Committee President

The Terrace will be a duller place with no flags next year, not petty but the just get soaked dirty etc etc all season. That roof is vital for the clubs survival I reckon, cause if results don't go our way the fans won't come again but this time we will have League 2 overheads

If the money is there, we must build it. It if its not then tell us now & we can get used to the idea. False promises are worse then the truth, we've been building it for years now!!!

Where's the Roof!!!!

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Where's the Roof!!!!

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Yeah, wheres the roof?

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Wheres the roof?

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"...I can confirm that we intend to erect covering over the Clayton End. We have had a couple of meetings this week and we are looking to get something in place as soon as possible, hopefully before the weather starts to turn. I know it is something that has been requested for a long while and I hope that the fans that brave all weathers to come and watch us will accept it as a thank you...Coley has talked about making this stadium a fortress for our home games and good vocal support is a big part of that, I am sure this will help to keep in the noise."

- Eric Whalley, programme notes, Woking match, Sept 27th, 2003

OK, Eric, three years is long enough, time you put your words into action!

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42 months later and counting... still no roof :(

Also does anyone think that the terraces get too crowded these last few games. Its hard to move about and the gangways arnt clear, surely the steps should be clear for health and safety reasons. Could they not be extended another couple of barriers back. It would add more than a thousand on the capacity and people can actually breathe. There will be more fans next year so this will be even worse :(

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I can't believe that people are complaining of overcrowding at recent matches. Nobody wants to see a return to swaying masses and collapsing barriers, but we are a million miles away from that scenario. No wonder Hereford fans take the p**s - we haven't had a "crowd" at any match yet. What do you want - space to swing a cat or something?

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I take your point FC. But I aint interested in extra steps or any other ground improvements until such time as we get a roof.

estimated cost of £100 000
divided by 24 home league matches next season
divided by £12 (this years adult admission)
equals 347 people

maybe we wont get an extra 347 new people coming on just because we have a roof, but what it will do is keep 347 people coming if the weather is crap one saturday. That, on top of any new people who turn up, on top of the increased atmosphere that players, management and Eric have all asked for repeatedly, surely makes the roof pay for itself within a year. Even if the bloody thing has to be pulled down in two or three years to make way for a bigger stand, it is surely an investment. And it would appease an increasingly frustrated customer base. If customers stopped coming to my shop as frequently as they could because they didn't like the decor, I would change it.

We are not asking for the Nou Camp, we are not asking for something that can't be done. We are asking for something that is a basic right for human beings, a roof over our heads.

Since the Coley years we have seen crowds grow. Now you can't put an umbrella up behind the Clayton End when there is more than 1800 on. We have been told we are getting one. Repeatedly. We want to know when we are getting it. We are not threatening revolution, but Willie Miller has already stated that the flags will be absent next year. How long until the crowd is also absent?

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Where does Mr Khan fit in all this. The way they trumpeted the "sponsorship" of the terrace gave me the impression the bloke was doshing out for the roof and all they needed to do was dot the i's and cross the t's on the plans?????????? Apparently not.:(

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He paid for the right to name the stand. Not to pay for the stand itself. Like Graham Charnley paid for the right to name the ground the Interlink Express Stadium.. he didn't actually pay for the ground. :)

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Hmmm! No disrespect, but the way it was announced on the pitch with the long rambling intro, etc, gave the impression thata it amounted to much more than a few quid in sponsorship. Too much topspin on that announcement one suspects.

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What about the Xmas draw we did a couple of seasons ago?

I seem to remember a lot of effort going in to sell those tickets!!!

Plus the £1000 raised and donated by the Supporters Club! If I remember rightly towards the new toilets in the Clayton End

:confused:

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Why? I am guessing it was a lot more than a few quid... are you suggesting that because it was a big amount then it should be used to pay for the roof?

eg: If you sponsor the dugouts for 50 quid then you get to advertise... but if you sponser them for 5 thousand quid you get to own them?. is that your way of thinking?

I am guessing the announcement was true and it was a big amount... It still stands that he only paid for the right to name it.. not build it. :)

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Guy buys the naming rights for a terrace which is crying out for a roof, one assumes that the money will go towards the roof and improvements to the bit he's sponsored, not into some financial Bermuda Triangle. Guess I've put 2 & 2 together and made 5.:(

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You and 99% of accy fans mate :) But then again I aint a club spokesman am I ... I am just saying what I know to be true.. Lots of others post what they know to be true and sometimes is/isn't But I am 100% confident he paid for naming rights only and not actually paid for work on the roof. I have had occasion to speak to the guy BTW, He sponsored my website a few years ago. He would quite happily put a large amount of money into the club for whatever reason ... top bloke :)

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Moaning seems horrible after the season we have had, but I think the players deserve to have the biggest backing from the terrace that they have had, for the coming season. The only way to turn the volume up is for a roof over the home end! Coley's said before that he wants a fortress & that the "guys behind the goal" are fantastic, well help us out!

We can't let it lie unfortunately

Think if we have no definate plans then tell us, tell us there's no money yet? But don't tell us its coming soon only for another three years to whizz by:engsmil:

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We all want a roof and all for diff reasons.. some to keep dry some for the atmosphere... Me I think it will massivly boost the atmospehere and ultimatly help the team ... But I aint holding my breath..

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I'm sure Mr Khan is a top bloke -- wouldn't it be nice to see his mum's name on top of a new roof though! Has anyone any firm idea how much a roof would cost. I've heard 50 grand mentioned, 100 grand, etc Nailing down a price might put things in perspective.

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In the days gone bye, you could av called me union man, a man of the people perhaps even a commie!....If that's wht i'm labled as i don't give a monkeys! We as fans(people) of of the club, and we need to know what is happing with th e roof?!?

To to the club... Give us a break(the ture fans)...Give us answers...

We need to know what's happ'ning!

p.s. Eric in the paper not so long ago "WE'RE NOT SKINT" quote!

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I've just spotted this post, AccyRed, after I'd made similar observations on another thread.

Please accept my apologies if it appears that I've been plagiarising your contribution. I haven't .

I suppose that it's just so obvious to some of us , and we still have our wits about us and can remember things that went on more than six months ago.

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No problem, the thought never even came to mind HM...:)

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How come you blokes don't moan when going to Gravesend, York etc etc which don't have a roof over the away end. Give 'em a break for gods sake. I personally would take the upgrades for league football over the roof everyday. However, as others have said, the roof should be erected soonest to increase the atmosphere from the home supporters. As for seating for the away fans, I was under the impression that a grant had been provisionally applied for from the FA (or whoever), to assist with a new stand on the Whinney Hill side, which I believe has had plans passed for it, because in the next 3 years we have to increase seating at the stadium to upwards of 3,000 I think, maybe even 5,000

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Because they never told us there would be one. :)

The point isnt that theres no roof.. hence why no one complained years ago.. The point is theres no roof when told there would be one..

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Whinney hill was mentioned at meeting other night, but there are no plans for redevelopment in near future!

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Roof roof roof what roof. I sympathise with the supporters who stand in the rain, come on Eric give them a roof.....and a toilet.....and a centre forward for Div 2....and payed holidays....and the vote.... and nice weather... and the tooth fairy etc etc etc.

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We are only asking for something we where told we would get.... 3 and a half years ago since we was told :)

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But three and a half years ago we weren't told that in April 2006 we'd be on the verge of promotion back to the Football League .

Want to swop ?

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Certainly not, but surely they're not mutually exclusive, or would the roof be built if we weren't going up?

Probably the club has struck a balance, a business plan, with a view to maximising income, fair enough. But that would seem to be where the club (any club), and its supporters' views start to diverge, to varying degrees.

Personally I'd put a roof, and the increased atmosphere that would lead to, above a pint and a burger. It will be interesting to see how the new pricing structure reflects on the proposed changes.

[Just for the record, any sign of the "Golden Arches", and I'm off]

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Ynorically (as they say in Accrington) it might actually have been - or might still be - the case that in the event of Stanley not going up we would, indeed, have the new Clayton End Roof.

And as for the infamous Golden Arches, with the current shortage of seating I think you're more likely to suffer from Fallen Arches :)

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A quick survey of League 2 prices seems to indicate that uncovered standing is in short supply, Barnet @ £11 is the only definite sighting.

Food for thought.