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Heard a rumour the drums are to be banned for next season, anyone from the club shed some light on this? Would be nice to know sooner rather than later, as I had planned to have the drum re-skinned, but not much point if it's banned :(

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Don't know if he can be trusted, but Baldy said as the result of last night's meeting with nearby residents the drum won't be played next season. :(

I think it'll be a great shame because it really adds to the atmosphere, and ninety minutes a fortnight or so, isn't a lot to put up with.

Get yourself a really loud trumpet, if it has been banned.;)

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Will singing and chanting also be banned ? Will you not be able to cheer when Stanley score, I am sure that that is louder than the drum.

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On what basis has the drums been banned????

Shame cos when the drum ain't banging you soon notice the atmosphere go flat & next season we could do with all the fan noise behind the team:cool:

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I didn't think that the residents could hear the drum without a roof.

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we need to keep the peace with the locals but how many would have been happy with just banning it at night games?

Lets have a roof then we will not need a drum

Loweiy

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yeah think just banning it at night games is a good idea i think thats what southport do...as we found out.... they cant really complain about noise at 3pm on a saturday afternoon cause they moved next a football club!

But at a evening its not what most of us would want to here in more or less out back garden!

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I wouldnt complain - i'd gladly join in from over the garden fence lmfao

If they want to complain i'll offer a house swop :D

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A new song for the Ultras.

I hear the sound of distant drums
Far away, far away
And if they call for me to come
Then I must go, and you must stay.

Jim Reeves 1966.

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a bad year for composing......

oops! :)

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a good year for international football

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....Krapenburg 1966 - accept no imitations

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Ok cotty :)

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Wouldn't have a problem with it being banned for evening matches, but like most have said, the atmosphere dies a bit when the drums stop. And 90 minutes a fortnight isn't gonna kill ya.

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what i cant understand is that countdown isnt on a saturday afternoon :p

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There are some sad people about. They moan about anything. If the floodlights aren't too bright, then the car park causes problems.... and now the drum is deemed too loud. What is wrong with these people. What is wrong with the town actually having a successful football club? Do the people of Accrington want one? They knew what buying a house near a football club could entail, and if they arent happy, they're more then welcome to give their home to me.

Anyway rant over. Perhaps I could understand it being banned at night games. But Saturdays is just ridiculous.

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Maybe thats why we cant have a roof. The Livingstone Road Posse have outlawed it

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Still no official reply...

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its absolutely stupid though! its a football ground for bloody sake! its suppost to have an atmosphere! its the only sound i can hear in the ground!except from the sound from the ultras , but i bet no other football clubs had to do this really! i agree with alvin, they knew they was going next to a football ground , what did they exspect us to do , not make any noise! cumon get a life!

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Superb rant, only beaten by Cammys :D

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You mean this one Diesel.....

"As most of you will be aware we have now had our drums banned from the ground along with massive banners......... 1 word for the morans who continue to complain about the club ARSEHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why have they nowt better to chuffing do for god sake... what we had going was something special. Idiots.... why whats the ****ing problem first it's parking issues cos the club is progressing which inturn causes more people to come and watch, then it was the floodlights being to bright!!!!! now chuffing flags and a drum jesus what next our town actually having a football team what is with folk in Accrington? Can someone please ask me this..... Have Rovers had theres banned? How about all the other clubs in Lancashire seen as Lancashire council has got involved? Or even other clubs in England? Bet they haven't. Surley it has to be the same rule for all? Not one rule for one and one rule for another? What i would now like to see is all the "Ultras" or folk who support what we the ultras are now doing is write letters to Scum coucil and Lancashire county coucil compalining about this and stating that they surley can't just ban it at 1 ground..... it must be done at all if they are to ban it. mine is already in the post. Come on we can't let this happen suley.

Show your support and get a letter sent today...."


Taken from www.stanleyultras.co.uk

Absolute quality :D

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Could the club please come forward and issue an Official Statement regarding this. I can stretch to accepting the drum (if it is banned at other grounds as well) but banners?????

I've got an idea for them. Why don't we just stop going and then there will be no problem with noise or parking.

An Official Statement that says exactly who has decreed this please.

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"
 

Before everybody starts to get up in arms about banners, can I remind folks that Cammy's original "rant" which has just been copied above, was, in fact, in response to an "April Fool" posting, which, in the end, caused Cammy a little embarrassment , :) as,in fact, there had been no mention of such a ban. I think the latest news about the drum may be true, but please don't all go off on one about banners, because there really is no need.

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All the more reason for the club to make an official response to say if this is true or not.

PS: Sorry if I caused some confusion with my above post :o. I was only replying to Diesel. Still quality though :D

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For more info on what provoked Cammy's wrath, have a look at the fishy site archive for 1st April 2005.:D

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chill out....there been nothing decieded in stone yet so why get so upset about a rumour

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I would think the club have better things to do than come running to someones messageboard every time someone posts a rumour

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we know that Rob frequently logs on, as well as any number of other 'well informed' individuals. I don't think its a case of pandering to us, more a case of just answering a straight forward question.

1 - Are drums going to banned?
a) yes
b) no
c) The idea has been mooted but as yet we are undecided.

2 - Are banners banned (how ironic)
a) yes
b) no
c) the idea has been mooted but we are as yet undecided

3 - (only the case of 1 & 2 being a) Is this your idea, Livingstone Road well meaning society's, HBC or LCC?

The ban has been implemented by .........


Hardly running and would take two minutes. No rumours then just hard fact.


They kneww months ago that they would not be building a roof. We argued the toss amongst ourselves anyway and the feeling became a little stronger that we want a roof. Answered straight away there would never have been any furore or fuss over it.

There is an old saying that goes ... politeness costs nothing.
Neither does information.

If the club knows something they should announce it there and then, not the week after.

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Banners haven't been mentioned mate. It was a april fools wind up. The drums being banned is the rumour, apparently Rob told the residents in a meeting that the drums would be banned as of next season, to uproarious applause too I'm told.

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how about cymbals? or tambourines?

hell, lets dust down the kazoo's

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Drums banned.. see official website...

Smells a bit to me...

If you buy a house next to a football ground then you have no right to complain. Just my opinion of course :)

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I fully agree kipax,
If the residents would like to move away from a football ground I would like to offer my house in exchange for one nearer to the ground.

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in short, the football club have asked that drums aren't used in the ground from now on to ensure that we can maintain good relations with our neighbours. banners certainly aren't banned...

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Absolutely disgusting... Do these moaning owd gits actually go to the games? :mad:

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Yes, those are the ones Im talking about. If you live on Livingstone Road and haven't complained then fair play to you. In fact you have one of the best places going when it comes to match day:) . But as Kisser has just said, these people don't even go. They are just moaning for no reason...

PS: If these people pay for a new roof, then we'll happilly not bring the drum ;)

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:engsmil: to maintain good relations with the residents lets buy them ear plugs then they will not hear the noise from the drums:engsmil:

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To maintain good relations with the residents would all supporters please refrain from cheering when Stanley score a goal because this would make more noise than any drum

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To be fair, the drum is a pain. The constant thumping is enough to drive anyone insane. I personally would be pleased to see it banned and if I was a non-football supporting resident, I would prefer not to have my evenings and weekends ruined by this migraine inducing ear abuse.

I believe the club has acted responsibly in this matter, as the support of local residents will be essential for further development.

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eeerm I have allways said I hate the drum.... The game was so bad at Kiddy on sat i was gonna pack the camera up and go stand wiht my mates.. but the drum put me off..

however its a football match and I know I have to put up with it.. I ahve the choice to stay as far away from it as I can... The people in the houses knew they where moving in next to a football ground.. so Allthough I have never been a fan of it (as i have stated on here before).. I wouldnt have tried to stop it.. thats the difference :)

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How about Trumpets, Bagpipes, Airhorns, etc. etc. etc.

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im sure deisel said that he has a trumpet...maybe something to do over the summer for you frank....learn how to play the trumpet ;)

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I think airhorns are already banned.... Jimbo had to sneak his into many a game... Can hurt delicate eardrums by all accounts... Jimbos never did get replaced.... we dont even hear "****e for ****e" anymore.... Or my alltime faveroute when the opposition make a sub "Bring em all on!" .

Come back Jimbo.. the league needs you :)

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Maybe a volunteer could stand outside the ground an beat the drum for those inside.

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:engsmil: Get the sound of the drums on tape and take a ghetto blaster to the match and play it !!!!:engsmil:

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But to be fair, this thing with bigger crowds, drums, etc is only a relatively recent development. When many residents bought their houses the attendance figures were in the low to mid hundreds. The club has grown a lot over the last 7-8 years and it now has to adapt to the environment.

Added to that, it isn't only the residents who have complained, but many paying punters have too. I make sure I stand as far away from it as possible, but I know of lots of people who have complained.

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Perhaps we can all keep completly silent throughout the games. That should make the moaners happy.

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Or perhaps you could use a rattle instead of a drum.......... unless you've thrown it out of the pram already? :D

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haha 1-0 to TM ... next? :)

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That's good to know, we're still allowed to cheer and sing ;)

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I'm afraid I'm probably in the "glad its banned" brigade. Unfortunately, its got to the stage where at home we have enough people to make a noise. The drum is played, no offence Matt, in a very unmusical manner & often drowns out some chants that are meant to be heard.

The drum served a purpose (& I went & got the thing!) but I think it'll be good to see how we do without it.

Matt can have some lessons (ala the Shots lads!) & we can use it away if allowed to annoy the home fans

Now, next season...... SING LOUDER!!!!!

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we could have some bells like pompey and anoy all livingstone road with them! then they will bring back the drums! is there any instrument associated with accringrton or someat?? like jase said will could just sing , see how much noise we can make!! , but if we got a roof then that will make alot of noise and they wont take that down for residents.

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its not about the shear amount of noise made just the repetitiveness of the big drum maybe franks would still be allowed if we cant keep in tune :)

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Cheeky devil! You saying I can't hold a tune or summat!? :p

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Not normally a fan of drums at footy games - but hell, we needed them at Kiddy last Saturday.

I think one of the Kiddy fans was playing the bongos.;)

So what the heck - we lost the game but our lot drummed and sang louder. So there.:p

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Oops, just re-read it! Don't I feel a little daft :(

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The club has spoken. Though I am not in favour of the ban, I believe our energy should now be put into being even louder and prouder then ever. We didn't have a drum in the Unibond did we? We'll carry on, and show the moaners that there is nothing wrong with showing our support for the greatest club in the world...

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banning Drums. How very untinpottedness.

Most, if not all, people are in agreeance that football generates interest and noise. The Ultras have a good reputation and are expected to make noise. A drum is part and parcel of that noise.

If we all took airhorns to the first game and honked them for 90 minutes will they be banned? So we go down a level and get kazzoo's will they be banned? How far do you go to appease the minority. I am also not the biggest fan of the big drum but hell I'll stand next to it if I have to because I accept it. A few people will take umberage and not go to the games and blame the drum. BO!!0CKS. They use the drum as an excuse to not go. How many of the now infamous Livingstone (or should that be just about LIVINGstone ) Road Whingers R Us society are actually complaining? I bet the number is less than ten.

Next seasons mission then is to find as many items of noise make that we can. Show the miserable "if I'd known this six years ago I'd never have bought the house' brigade that we will continue to hound their saturday afternoons in the name of twelfth manedness.

If they dont like 90 minutes of thump thump then they should try living next door to my anti-social gits of neighbours who play music ridiculously loud until ridiculous O'Clock every fri, sat and sunday night!

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The fact is though that the club have done this ban to create a good relationship with the local residents... we dont want to reck that relationship and create a battle between fans and residents with the club in the middle cause when the club does eventually put in for planning permission from the council for the roof or anything else these residents could be the people who will object to it due to the bad relationship

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fair enough but now it is one thing on the side of the club as they can now say look we banned the drum where as if we kept it they would just have another thing to moan about!

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I`ve got mixed feelings about the drum, sometimes i think it adds to the atmosphere and others i think it drowns the songs out, i`m not however in favour of bans on things in general unless they cause harm and i think for 90 mins every 2 weeks is hardly harmfull, yes i know many people will be breathing a sigh of relief about the drums being banned, but i for one will miss it on the whole, so lets do as already suggested and just sing louder and prouder next season.

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Aye time to turn up them vocal chords peeps by the looks of it. Im disappointed that something that can so easily generate atmosphere like a drum has been banned, and just to clear things up, I never once had my airhorn taken off me or stopped at the Crown - just the odd jobsworths at the odd away grounds in the Conference so everyone get an airhorn next season.. :)

:horn8::horn8::horn8::horn8:

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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:engsmil: The banning of the drums gets a mention in todays non league paper under the headlines STANLEYS DRUMS MUST FALL SILENT
it allso has a colour picture of the drummer and ultras in fancy dress at a match:engsmil:

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On the subject of drums (and please forgive my ignorance), are these also banned at away matches ? Do most other League clubs have a similar policy in force ?

I personally like the drums and they do create a good atmosphere :) - and though I do not live close to a football ground, I honestly don't believe that once every couple of weeks for 90 mins is too much of a burden to bear.

Imagine the Brazilian matches without the drums - they just would not be the same !:eek:

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You buy a house near a school you expect noise from kids attending it during school hours.
you buy a house near a church you expect noise from bell ringers on a Sunday morning.
You buy a house near a football ground you expect noise on match days.

nuff said!!!!!

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Well said Bottletop,
and the price they pay for the house reflects any nusance that may be caused.

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I agree with every point AGAINST banning the drum's in this topic
Anyone who has went Stanley last season would know what a differance to the atmosphere it makes, it gets behind the boys, and gets everyone into the party atmosphere mood
I understand for some people it can be annoying, but on saturday afternoon, i belive that a drum is part of the package of the place, and to ban it outright is a pretty poor decision
The fact that it was banned for night matches you can understand, what with little children in bed, time to relax after work etc, but on a saturday afternoon it is totally differant
Bottletop's comment was spot on, but i do belive them houses were there BEFORE Stanley's ground was (i think anyway)

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The houses might have been but what about the people in them?

Jimbo T :horn8:blower