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KIPAX 09-07-2006 09:30

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It's smaller.. anyone else notice? The gap between the wall in front of main stand and pitch is noticably wider and as such the pitch must be smaller..

How interesting is that ? :)

baldy 09-07-2006 09:46

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The Main Stand has been moved back a couple of inch to comply with The Fa standards :)

K.S.H 09-07-2006 11:40

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I see the dip is still there in the pitch, thought they would have levelled that out a bit, really noticable from the Clayton end

Bagpuss 09-07-2006 11:55

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Originally Posted by K.S.H
I see the dip is still there in the pitch, thought they would have levelled that out a bit, really noticable from the Clayton end

Agreed the dip did seem a bit more noticeable and with the amount of sand it was like watching football on a waterlogged pitch.

zayno14 09-07-2006 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX
It's smaller.. anyone else notice? The gap between the wall in front of main stand and pitch is noticably wider and as such the pitch must be smaller..

How interesting is that ? :)

Indeed your right Kipax..It was done so the floodlights could light the wings better as last season in night matches they were a bit dark because of the stand blocking the light from the floodlights..

ossyclogger 09-07-2006 13:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy
The Main Stand has been moved back a couple of inch to comply with The Fa standards :)

No wonder the other jobs ain't been done. that must have taken months to do. :) :)

maccawozzagod 09-07-2006 17:36

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surprising really, as I thought nobody could get Eric to give an inch

Bottletop 10-07-2006 12:18

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This is something I have always had a bee in my bonnet about.:mad:

Surely all pitches should be the same size, wider/ longer pitches can give players advantages/disadvantages.
I would have thought the FA would have a ruling on this but obviously not!:)

Fatso 10-07-2006 13:24

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They do have a ruling. They have to be within certain parameters, with specific features (penalty spot, goals etc) at precise points. The differences are not that great, IIRC, and get more stringent as you progress through the leagues.

JEFF 10-07-2006 14:21

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The length of a pitch must be between 100 yards (90m) and 130 yards (120m) and the width not less than 50 yards (45m) and not more than 100 yards (90m).

Wigan’s pitch dimensions are 110 x 60, Newcastle 105 x 68, Liverpool 110 x 75, Portsmouth 105 x 66, Aston Villa 105 x 69, Norwich 114yds x 74yds, Real Madrid 106yds x 70yds. There is quite a difference the longest being 114yds and the shortest 105yds. The widest being 75yds and the narrowest only 60yds. For International matches the length must be between 100yds and 110yds and the width between 64yds and 75yds.

LeeVarender 10-07-2006 21:14

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So you could in theory have a square pitch.

shakermaker 10-07-2006 21:33

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Originally Posted by LeeVarender
So you could in theory have a square pitch.

I was taken to Blackburn matches up until the end of the 95 season (I know, it borders on child abuse :rolleyes: ) & Ewood always looked a bit square to me from the Blackburn End.

Bazf 10-07-2006 22:07

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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...ch_finale1.gif

jambutty 10-07-2006 22:21

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Has anyone else noticed that on a legal pitch there are 8 obstructions?

The line marking out the perimeter of the pitch is part of the playing area yet the four corner posts are on the line as are the four goal posts. Yes, I know it has been like that since goal posts took precedent over two coats but that doesn’t make it right, does it?
<O:p
How many goals have been scored when the ball hits the post and bounces in, when if the posts had been those few inches back the ball would not have bounced into the goals.
<O:p
Also is the line marking out the penalty area part of the area?

Doug 10-07-2006 23:50

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I must be thicker than I thought I was. I never knew they where different sizes even when they appear to be bigger or smaller at other grounds I just put it down to old age, failing eye sight and the lighting....:rolleyes:

jaysay 11-07-2006 04:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottletop
This is something I have always had a bee in my bonnet about.:mad:

Surely all pitches should be the same size, wider/ longer pitches can give players advantages/disadvantages.
I would have thought the FA would have a ruling on this but obviously not!:)

I think you'll find that the FA have minimum widths and lenghths of pitches Bottletop, I also think that UEFA pitch sizes are also different for Champs League and UEFA cup matches, remember Bolton last season when you could clearly see the old pitch markings for a Uefa cup match. Arsenal had one of the narrowest pitches in the country at Highbury, it will be interesting to see if they keep the same width at their new stadium next season

Bottletop 11-07-2006 09:48

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How can such differences in pitch sizes be allowed?

Just imagine if for example all the tennis courts at wimbeldon where different sizes,

John Mcenroe shouting the ball was in!! umpire(or whatever they call them in tennis) sorry the ball was out but if you where on court number 6 which is 6 inches wider then you would have been right John!!!:)

Bottletop 11-07-2006 09:59

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remember Bolton last season when you could clearly see the old pitch markings for a Uefa cup match.

I remember seeing that Jaysay and at the time couldn't work out why the markings had been moved, thanks for enlightening me:) :)

jambutty 11-07-2006 10:13

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When league football was just a fledgling organisation many of the teams could not allocate enough land for a standard sized pitch so the FA decreed that a pitch could be of any size within the set parameters.

However EUFA is different in that teams competing in the EUFA competitions have to have a pitch of a fixed size or maybe it is within different parameters. Either way it does mean that some teams have to change their pitch markings to comply with EUFA rules when playing in Europe.

rob 11-07-2006 12:19

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think its also in the rules that the pitch must be rectangular, though as long as your touchlines were half an inch longer than the goal lines you wouldn't be so far off...

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeVarender
So you could in theory have a square pitch.


zayno14 11-07-2006 13:41

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Yes your right Rob, touch lines have to be wider than hte bylines...

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndR...2/05/12112.htm

Tealeaf 11-07-2006 14:03

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Fasinating. Everything is still done in Imperial Measures.

Does anyone know of any other sport that has not succumbed to metric nonsense? (excepting horse racing)

jambutty 11-07-2006 15:51

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I think that those rules are slightly out of date zayno14 or maybe they don’t apply to FIFA but thanks for the link anyway.
Goals Decision3 - <SNIP>on goals, nets, flagposts or their flags. No extraneous equipment (cameras, microphones, etc.) may be attached to these items.
There were cameras on the inside of the goals during the WC.

MichiganRed 12-07-2006 02:01

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Does anyone know of any other sport that has not succumbed to metric nonsense? (excepting horse racing)

Certainly, Mr. Leaf. A baseball diamond is ninety feet between the bases and the rubber on the pitcher's mound is sixty feet, six inches from home plate.

rob 12-07-2006 10:10

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maybe an argument there for replaying all world cup matches? maybe from quarter finals onwards?



Quote:

Originally Posted by jambutty
I think that those rules are slightly out of date zayno14 or maybe they don’t apply to FIFA but thanks for the link anyway.
Goals Decision3 - <snip>on goals, nets, flagposts or their flags. No extraneous equipment (cameras, microphones, etc.) may be attached to these items.</snip>
There were cameras on the inside of the goals during the WC.


Redraine 12-07-2006 11:43

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Never mind the width - what about the quality? It looked very poor on Saturday and is already attracting derogatory comments on both Rovers and Burnley messageboards. I would have thought that with seeding and watering in the close season any sand would have been covered by now, or has there been a hosepipe/watering ban?

John_Timmins 12-07-2006 13:19

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the problem does not lie with anyone at the club but the fact that antony hasent been able to do his job for various reasons, at first it was too wet to seed the ground then it was too dry for the seed to grow as well as that two of the tractors where stolen and trashed...so not the best close season really :(

Kiwi John 13-07-2006 02:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Fasinating. Everything is still done in Imperial Measures.

Does anyone know of any other sport that has not succumbed to metric nonsense? (excepting horse racing)

That would be any sport in USA.


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