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PaulMullinsForehead 05-08-2006 23:29

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What happened here then. Not a mention anywhere. Was he injured or got left behind????????

Can somebody advise

Tin Monkey 06-08-2006 08:01

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That was very strange. I'd like to know where he was, as he looked like a quality signing.

Ashley's Dad 06-08-2006 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulMullinsForehead
What happened here then. Not a mention anywhere. Was he injured or got left behind????????

Can somebody advise

Only one defender on the bench - Edwards. My lad was hoping he might be named, but no. Going for experience I presume. The whole squad went down though, which was good, so everyone shared in the experience.

Bagpuss 06-08-2006 12:01

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Once again Rocky failed to impress and if Coley has any sense N'da will be in the team sooner rather than later.

sparkie 06-08-2006 14:13

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now now don't you know that Rocky is Coleys love child!!! He'll never be replaced in the starting line up no matter how crap he plays. There were many instances of when this should have happened in the last couple of years but Coley will not drop him. The lad is saintly in coleys eyes

AccyMad 06-08-2006 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Once again Rocky failed to impress and if Coley has any sense N'da will be in the team sooner rather than later.

Oh come on, lets not start the ritual of Rocky bashing so early in the season, yes the lad made mistakes but from all accounts he wasn't the only one to do so yesterday.

baldy 06-08-2006 17:54

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If i remember rightly Rocky got slated early last season, but when he started playing well nobody praised who had been slating him, likewise the people calling for Coleys head, where was they late last season?? ... 3 promotions in 5 years, now tell Eric hes got the wrong manager

Its either the Scousers V Non Scousers or Rocky love child this, Rocky love child that

My point is that we as the fans should be behind every player and person in the management team 110%. as Coley has said if fans dont belive he has made a right team seletion etc He and Jimmy will always listen to you in the Sports Bar after the game. So why not go see them and find the real reason he has made tat team selection or substitute! :D

Kiwi John 06-08-2006 18:00

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Well spoken Baldy.

smudgie 06-08-2006 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy
If i remember rightly Rocky got slated early last season, but when he started playing well nobody praised who had been slating him, likewise the people calling for Coleys head, where was they late last season?? ... 3 promotions in 5 years, now tell Eric hes got the wrong manager

Its either the Scousers V Non Scousers or Rocky love child this, Rocky love child that

My point is that we as the fans should be behind every player and person in the management team 110%. as Coley has said if fans dont belive he has made a right team seletion etc He and Jimmy will always listen to you in the Sports Bar after the game. So why not go see them and find the real reason he has made tat team selection or substitute! :D


couldent agree more, :D

keep the faith people, 3 points on tuesday just u wait

lindsay ormerod 06-08-2006 18:08

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Odd that,I was at a cricket match on sat and when it came up on the tv that we had given a penalty away I correctly predicted the player involved.Uncanny .

Bagpuss 06-08-2006 18:20

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Come people we all know that he really is not good enough. He hasn't got the footballing brain that Welsh has and is always being caught out of position. He looked dodgy in the pre-season games where as N'da looked very solid playing with Welsh. I will back him when he is on the pitch and keep my opinions quiet but when people are shouting that he is crap and too slow I will agree.

baldy 07-08-2006 10:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Come people we all know that he really is not good enough. He hasn't got the footballing brain that Welsh has and is always being caught out of position. He looked dodgy in the pre-season games where as N'da looked very solid playing with Welsh. I will back him when he is on the pitch and keep my opinions quiet but when people are shouting that he is crap and too slow I will agree.

Who is ALL Bagpuss?

Rocky is not as slow as you think he is ... as proven when the Ultras played the First Team, When you get on the pitch hes alot faster than he looks from watching from the terraces.

fettler 07-08-2006 10:41

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I've seen milk turn quicker

zayno14 07-08-2006 11:36

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He's slow? What warrants the title quick? He is one of the quickest in the team and if you watch the players train you will see that him, mangy, edwards and roberts are probably the quickest in the squad. He may have had one game but he was fantastic last year after a lacklustre start. Coley will do what's best for the team and whether its rocky in the team or not..

shakermaker 07-08-2006 11:44

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Rocky has become a better player with each league progression. Not many players can do that. Him, Cav & Mullers are like fine wines; getting better with age :D

I would like to see N'Da should start though; with Rocky seeing a holding role in midfield as he does like to get forward (what he perhaps lacks in centre-half robustness, he makes up for in versatility). Though this wouldn't be likely after Andy Proctor's sound start against Chester.

Ashley's Dad 07-08-2006 12:06

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I would like to see N'Da should start though; with Rocky seeing a holding role in midfield as he does like to get forward (what he perhaps lacks in centre-half robustness, he makes up for in versatility). Though this wouldn't be likely after Andy Proctor's sound start against Chester.[/quote]


As a completely unbiased observer, I'll remind you there is now another centre half on the scene.

In Scotland, Ash came on for Welch when he was injured in the first game, then played at the back with Rocky in the second, with N'da in midfield.

Looking at them pre-season, as Ashley settled in (yes, he was poor against Burnley, but got better with each game after that), I would say that Ash is better in the air, and a better talker, but N'da is quicker.

We'll see how they shape up in the reserve games.

PS slightly odd report about Stanley in today's Daily Telegraph - the reporter stopped us as we were walking back to the car on Saturday, and reading the piece he had apparently also managed to interview the coach driver!

baldy 07-08-2006 12:32

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Double Post

baldy 07-08-2006 12:34

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To be fair Ashleys dad, Coleys not gonna just change a defence that won the conference last season, just because theres a new kid on the block,

Not saying Ashleys a bad player but we have only seen him in a couple of Friendlies. whereas Rocky and Welch Played most games together in last seasons team that won the league.

I hope Ashley does push for a First team place, but dont just expect hes gonna be picked because he came on for Welch and has played a few games. :)

shakermaker 07-08-2006 12:55

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Ashley's Dad; I was giving my view on the Rocky/N'Da situation, not on the selection order of the whole defence.
I would of course like to see more of your lad in games but I fear that the only way that would be possible is to get a few reserve games under his belt, as I believe Ventre or N'Da would replace Williams/Welch should any changes be made. Even Phil Edwards can play very competently anywhere across the back line. Obviously I don't know Coley's pecking order but that's how I presume it is at the moment.

Tin Monkey 07-08-2006 13:06

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Lots of comments, but no answer to the original question.

What happened to N'da on Saturday? Was he injured? Nothing on the website yet again. :(

Ashley's Dad 07-08-2006 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy
To be fair Ashleys dad, Coleys not gonna just change a defence that won the conference last season, just because theres a new kid on the block,

Not saying Ashleys a bad player but we have only seen him in a couple of Friendlies. whereas Rocky and Welch Played most games together in last seasons team that won the league.

I hope Ashley does push for a First team place, but dont just expect hes gonna be picked because he came on for Welch and has played a few games. :)


Agree totally - I wasn't saying he's worth a first team place now, just that when a vacancy arises, there's other cover as well as N'da.

Going back to the orginal question, all the squad travelled, though obviously not everyone made the team & bench, so I presume N'da was hanging around with the others watching the game

Urban Spaceman 07-08-2006 13:23

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I am glad it wasn't just me then wondering why N'da wasn't playing at Chester on Saturday. When I watched them warming up and saw no sign of him, I asked one or two of the other Stanley fans there where he was, but noone seemed to know anything.:confused:

I am not trying to criticise Coley's team selection (I freely admit to knowing little about team tactics and am learning slowly :D ) - but was just intrigued to know why one of our new signings had been left out for the first match.:eek:

JEFF 07-08-2006 13:27

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Originally Posted by Urban Spaceman
I am not trying to criticise Coley's team selection (I freely admit to knowing little about team tactics and am learning slowly :D ) - but was just intrigued to know why one of our new signings had been left out for the first match.:eek:

Possibly sentimenality - playing Rocky, Procky, Cav and not fully fit Mully in our first game in the league.

shakermaker 07-08-2006 13:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF
Possibly sentimenality - playing Rocky, Procky, Cav and not fully fit Mully in our first game in the league.

John Coleman?
Sentimentality?
Nah.

Rocky & Welchy are a tried and tested championship winning defensive partnership. There was no reason not to play Rocky.
Proc is the hardest working of any of our midfielders form start to finish - and proved himself against Chester.
Cav is such a strong full back against any opposition including higher teams. I've yet to see him turned inside out more than once in a game.
Mullers offers an immense presence & even if he only plays for an hour he will create 90% of our chances around the 18 yard box.

The inclusion of all these players was not sentiment fuelled. They know each other, why field a side that hasnt played together before against a hardened league team?

Urban Spaceman 07-08-2006 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF
Possibly sentimenality - playing Rocky, Procky, Cav and not fully fit Mully in our first game in the league.

Thanks Jeff !:D

Bagpuss 07-08-2006 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
Rocky & Welchy are a tried and tested championship winning defensive partnership. There was no reason not to play Rocky.

I have no problem with Rocky starting the season, true he did ok for most of last season but what does worry me that if he has another bad game game Tuesday v Darlington and he is not dropped. As for him being one of the quickest in the squad, that is no use when hes been turned and be time he has realised it he is 5 yards behind play.

cmonstanley 07-08-2006 21:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
I have no problem with Rocky starting the season, true he did ok for most of last season but what does worry me that if he has another bad game game Tuesday v Darlington and he is not dropped. As for him being one of the quickest in the squad, that is no use when hes been turned and be time he has realised it he is 5 yards behind play.

this time im in full agreement with you:D :D :D :p

shakermaker 07-08-2006 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
I have no problem with Rocky starting the season, true he did ok for most of last season but what does worry me that if he has another bad game game Tuesday v Darlington and he is not dropped. As for him being one of the quickest in the squad, that is no use when hes been turned and be time he has realised it he is 5 yards behind play.

Hold on there.
"Another bad game"??
You make it sound like he's been playing bad for a full season! It's been one game - we're allowed a few to settle in right?
If you do want to point the finger at bad performances, what about Gary Roberts & Ian Craney? The pair had an awful day at Chester, should they be dropped because we have Jay Harris & Joel Byrom? Nope - because Gary & Ian are the 'stars of the squad'.
Rocky's never been a star in the team & does have his faults which is why he is playing at this level & not in the Prem.
Give the lad a little bit of slack.

Jimbo T Hornblower 08-08-2006 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
The inclusion of all these players was not sentiment fuelled. They know each other, why field a side that hasnt played together before against a hardened league team?

Just being finiky here but wasnt the Chester side on Saturday made up from 10 new summer signings???

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

shakermaker 08-08-2006 17:07

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Granted Jimbo, but they are all experienced league players aren't they.
We only have 4 ex-leaguers in the squad.

rob 08-08-2006 21:40

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n'da was at the game on saturday...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey
Lots of comments, but no answer to the original question.

What happened to N'da on Saturday? Was he injured? Nothing on the website yet again. :(


ossyclogger 08-08-2006 22:04

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Originally Posted by rob
n'da was at the game on saturday...

Pity he didn't play innit.

maccawozzagod 08-08-2006 23:19

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N'da is class,we aint playing with clASS

ossyclogger 09-08-2006 09:05

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Quote "moan moan moan. why not try supporting the team instead of mindless criticism without reason"

To the anonymous author of the above karma comment : grow up, get a life, and next time don't be such a coward. Sign your comments.


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