osc - any new business
 

I would like to suggest to the general public that all monies raised in the next twelve months are split 50-50 between the OSC and a local charity. I tried to post this on general chat to gauge local opinion on a worthwile cause but was moved to hints/tips/advice where I have had little feedback.

Where, if anywhere, do Stanley Supporters think we should be looking?

At the risk of sounding mercenary, the better the cause the more money we will raise for both parties. My opinion is that human interest will gain more support than animals, local will gain a shed load more support than national, and kids will raise more money than an adult interest.

I would rather set about raising £5000 for little Jonny to have a new wheelchair than putting money into a bottomless pit that would be something like Cancer Relief. All charity work is good work, all ideas are worthwhile. Again I think that the local angle of paying for something entirely is worth more, to that individual and dare I say it in terms of publicity to us, than contributing to something that cannot be instantly fixed like a national fund.

Little Jonny would notice us paying for his Euro Disney trip whereas nobody would notice a couple of thousand going into a fund that already gets national recognition, or government funding, or lottery money.

Please do not pick me up on small detail as I well aware that this that and the other need help. But as I said I would rather help individuals.

Re: osc - any new business
 

HOW DO I JOIN, would love to think i was doing my bit for little johnie / janet ?

Re: osc - any new business
 

sorry JONNY !

Re: osc - any new business
 

I don’t know how people feel but I was deeply touched by the chap from Wigan? the ex rugby player. It’s been in the local news lately. It is certainly the sort of local charity support that I like to respond too, OK I know it Accy money and there will be many good and needy causes. Sign me Sir….

Re: osc - any new business
 

Accy money stays in Accy. Call it the funny handshake club or whatever. But I would hat little Jonny who lives on Abbey St (centre of Accy) to have his wheelchair bought by Accy Clarets for example.

You can join by being at the OSC AGM on the 9th October. Mebership currentl stands at £8 inc free badge. By next year I would hope that membership costs around £4 and if you want a badge you buy it separately.

Re: osc - any new business
 

OK Rob, pull me at the next match, if not I'll make an effort for the 9th.

Re: osc - any new business
 

Cheers Doug you f*ck&^%^% welcome, you blood! nice B@s!r$% chappie from %%$"£^.



I hope you understand :)

Re: osc - any new business
 

:) Clear as a referee at a <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com[IMG] /><st1:City w:st=[/IMG]<ST1:pStanley </ST1:p</st1:City>Match……:D :D :D

Re: osc - any new business
 

Theres a young lad that goes to my little brothers school, don't know his name off the top of my head, but he has a bad skin condition and yet tries his best to get on with life. I think he deserves, and I do mean DESERVES every penny.

Re: osc - any new business
 

I'm all for raising money for charity etc - I pay £12 a month by standing order to animal charities. However, if charity fundraising is something you want to do, surely you can do it seperate from accrington stanley supporters club. It's like the rspca doing fundraising and giving all the proceeds (or half of them) to the nspcc!

I think each year a local charity should be nominated as the club's charity for the season. They would receive a percentage of the proceeds from fundraising events held at the club and the charity would also benefit from their association with accy stanley as it would raise their profile in the local area, highlighting their cause...

Don't take it the wrong way, I just think the beauty of the supporters club is that people who choose to support them do so in the knowledge that all the money raised goes to accrington stanley. It's better not to confuse things, surely...?

Re: osc - any new business
 

having give the matter a lot of thought, and having spoken to various people about it, and having mooted the idea a the last meeting, I and many others think the idea is a good one.

The basic principle Felix, is that Football League Supporters Clubs tend to put a lot more effort into the community, via the Football Club, which then has the knock-on effect of raising the clubs profile. The fact remains that although all money raised in the last few years has been welcome money, it is only a drop in the ocean compared to the turnover at ASFC. We (or I and the people I have spoken to) believe that by agreeing to split the proceeds we can raise more money than if it is purely for the football club. Outside of our fans, few people are willing to donate to the club because they aren't interested in football so why should they subsidise it? And I agree, if Accy Cricket Club were down town shaking their buckets then they'd get nowt off me, but if half went towards little jonnies wheelchair then I'd probably chuck 50p in.

It sounds mercenary, but as I stated, I believe we will a) get more money and b) will propel the name of the club forward more.

We have the ability to tap areas that the club can't or won't get into. And, how often does the club give to the community? Via the OSC they now will be doing. People associate the OSC as ASFC so the benefit will be mutual.

And anyhows, it will obviously have to go to the vote. I propose that monies raised through memberships and sales stay with the club, money raised through fundraising events get split. I would hope that over the next 12-24 months the number of fundraising events will soar, and as such so will the wet profit in the clubhouse which would more than make up for any shortfall in paint buying initiatives.

Re: osc - any new business
 

i was thinking in terms of the s.c members who aren't involved with the running/management of the supporters club - those who are not local (as there are a number of members up and down the country) who join the supporters club for one reason....Accrington Stanley. I suppose if the majority of members vote in favour of the donating to charity idea, it's fair enough. I'm not looking to criticise, just weighing it up...

do the supporters club pay all funds they've raised to the football club on an annual basis or something, how does it work?

Re: osc - any new business
 

Money raised by the supporters club is not given to the football club unless it is for the benefit of the supporters. It is the supporters cluc and as such is completley separate from the football club.

Re: osc - any new business
 

Most members I would say are from Accrington/Hyndburn. Most fans who live further afield are either ex-pats who would appreciate the charity angle for Accrington, or folk who have no link to Accrington whatsoever and have signed up for the 'I'm a member of Accrington Stanley mate' kudos type angle. And these folk wouldn't give a toss as long as they get their card. Also I think it would take a brave person to step forward and say if they're giving half to charity then I'm not paying

Re: osc - any new business
 

"Most members I would say are from Accrington/Hyndburn......" how come hardly any attend the meetings then?

Maybe the organisation (also known as) Accrington Stanley Supporters Club should consider a name change...

Re: osc - any new business
 

The reasons for non-attendance to the meetings have been exhaustibly discussed on here over the last three months or so. Following the next AGM (see sig) we will be hoping that under a new committee (no disrespect intended towards the present one) there will be a new direction, a new focus and hopefully a new, reinvigorated Official Supporters Club. Shall we save a seat for you Felix?

Re: osc - any new business
 

So why is it called the official supporters club.

Re: osc - any new business
 

because its the only one that has the official backing of the club. The money does go back into the club one way or the other, but how that happens is up to the members.

If a majority vote decided to pay for the roof then is what would happen.

Likewise if the majority decided to pay for Tommy Walsh to come and gove the referees room a makeover and make it all nice like ("f@:k!n over my dead f@!k1ng body" - Doug) then that is what would happen - with the clubs permission of course.

The club cannot tell us what to do with our money - hence it is a separate entity entirely
But likewise they can refuse us permission to do whatever we decide. Just like I cannot come and paint your house pink for you no matter how grand a gesture that may be.

Re: osc - any new business
 

How about doing your fundraisers through the year and then at the end of the season put an advert in accy observer saying we've raised this money now we are looking to give it away and ask for deserving causes. You could give out grants and it could be from all over hyndburn instead of just one cause. Like a nursery for some toys, an oap home for visit from someone, a school to help pay for a trip etc.

Re: osc - any new business
 

In a perfect world that would be a great idea but, could you imagine all the requests and begging letters we'd receive...It would cos us more in the price of stamps to reply to them...;)

I think the ideas that have been mentioned last meeting are a step in the right direction, what we need is more ideas and NOT people pouring cold water over ones not aggreed on yet.

If folk can make the next meeting(THE AGM) they can voice their oppinions, place their vote and save the OSC from almost certain death.

Re: osc - any new business
 

In fairness, Official Supporters Club was an appropriate name. Funds raised by the supporters club went to the football club - as you would expect to be the case.

To me, choosing another charity to raise funds for doesn't seem like a typical item on a supporters club agenda....Clearly I'm missing the point

Re: osc - any new business
 

Duh ! Does your head hurt ? How many times do you need it explaining ?

Re: osc - any new business
 

It's no bloody wonder we are and have had problems with certain aspects at Stanley, you certainly have missed the point.

Re: osc - any new business
 

Well, we've clearly established I have missed 'the point'...




''It's no bloody wonder we are and have had problems with certain aspects at Stanley....''

any 'aspect' in particular....? :Banane40:

Re: osc - any new business
 

The West HAm avatar?

Re: osc - any new business
 

he's fit as....! no other reason

Re: osc - any new business
 

I hope your a girl. otherwise YUK!

Re: osc - any new business
 

I won't this time mention season tickets:mad: ;) :mad:

Lets stick to the clubshop and the online store, remember you did ask. Where is the stock? It's a joke that in the season where we should be selling more stuff than ever before we find there is nothing to buy. I don't want to hear that it's because it's all been sold, because that would be a lie.
Supporters log on to buy for an example a beanie hat, any colour would do, sorry none available, this has been like this for months, so you go to the clubshop none there too, 2 more weeks before delivery, bull*hit.
Ok then no beanie hats then I will buy a baseball cap in say Stanley colours red, same again none available online or at the shop or the other outlets in Accrington.
Ok then lets buy a t-shirt............ I could go on for ages going through a list and other comments made by family and friends.

Get your act together it's not good enough, start by explaining why there is nothing to buy, is it a lack of investment, staff, I'm not in a position where I can make a difference only point things out and have a moan but if the same problems arose at my place of work heads would roll.

Re: osc - any new business
 

To quote Tin Monkey from another thread "I've grown a little tired of banging the 'internet sales drum'. It's an enormous lost opportunity and that's a shame, but the likes of me going on about it isn't going to make any difference."

Says it all really.

Re: osc - any new business
 

the fact we had a 2-2 draw with bury on tuesday its now 20pm on sunday and except for the result on the top of the page which i guess kipax enters into the database then there is no update from that game, nothing!

surley its only a 2 minute job to stick a pic of gary roberts goal and a small match report???

as well as that no preview for tommorrows game, if anyone was to log on they wouldnt even know we had a game tomorrow!!! unless for the small fixture thing at the top!

really think we need someone to run the website and not have it as it is at the moment, whereby its a side job for the staff at the club

keep up the good work though :)

Re: osc - any new business
 

This coming from someone who does not even know what day it is.

Re: osc - any new business
 

'what' coming from 'who' Billy?

use quotes please. You could be slagging off absolutely anybody with that comment.

Re: osc - any new business
 

Considering there is only 1 post in this thread that has the wrong day on it , I thought (incorrectly) it would be obvious .

Re: osc - any new business
 

Mr Timmins I think he's having a pop at you.:)

Re: osc - any new business
 

so do i but unlike others on here i dont raise to little sly comments, cause that will just give him the little bit of satisfaction that will let him sleep ;)

at least i have the balls to put my name to my mistakes :)

Re: osc - any new business
 

any no f in roof for sale at match today?

Re: osc - any new business
 

Dear Mr_Timmins just a couple of points, Firstly I do not know you and you certainly don,t know me . Secondly it seems to be a bit presumptuous to think I am not using my own name, Perhaps you think i am somebody else ?.To finish, it was not a sly little comment but FACT and yes it does give me the satisfaction to sleep, but perhaps your paranoia stops you sleeping at night. Yours W Casper

Re: osc - any new business
 

Mr Timmins, take a look at the website and tell us what ya think of the little match report/summary of yesterday's game...... :)

:p (i did it)

You're right what you're sayin though, it'll be kept up to date from now on

Re: osc - any new business
 

yeh well done

just keep it for rest of season along with a small preview of the games and maybe more people will have a look on the site meaning the amount of hits on the site are bigger meaning that the club can charge a greater fee for the advertising that appears on the site...:)

Re: osc - any new business
 

Well I did expect that Felix you reply to Mr Timmins but not me, this does seem to be the way when dealing with the club, I've never had a straight answer to a question yet. I know you're not Eric or Rob but you did ask me a question so at least make an attempt to reply although as Kipax told me you are under no obligation to do so.

Re: osc - any new business
 

seeing as eveyone including me is always guilty of being a little negative
got to say a well done to who ever has updated the website every day this week with at least one peice of info :bow8:

Re: osc - any new business
 

yeah I thought that today. N o news is bad news, we want to know every little snippet of information and we'll judge whether its crap or not. Its better to see llittle bits of rubbish than no activity for a couple of days. Even just inane banter from the training ground, what about updates on the Ince situation. The newspapers seem to be able to get something to write about now almost every day..................................