OSC Meeting monday 9th
 

Don't forget folks, that this monday is the Annual General Meeting for the Supporters Club.

Up for grabs are position of chariman, vice-chairman and secretary due to the present committee stepping down.

At present the Supporters Club is not running at full tilt due to lack of active members, new ideas and focus. Hopefully there will be plenty of new people there for the AGM and these new people can help breathe life into this very important part of Accrington Stanley Football Club.

There will also be discussion regarding new ventures for the club to get its teeth into. Are you able to contribute in any way? Are you interested in being part of a club that can have an input into how things are done at the club? Do you feel that you have ideas as to how the club or its fanbase can be improved or portrayed?

If the answer is yes to any of the above then we would like to see you at the meeting on monday. If you are unable to go for whatever reason but still think that you have ideas you would like to get across then PM me and I will try to give everything a mention.

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I will be there Rob, my membership has been renewed, I really hope it's not going to be a big disappointment.

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Well im in a pickle about it cos with the supporters club gone AWOL over past few months a friend bought me a season & a half worth of membership starting from last xmas so i've been told & i havent received anything regarding new membership which is flippin annoying that its got lost in the records somewhere & cant get hold of them, im certainly not paying twice!!!

I dunno Macca seems a lot of faith needs to be restored in the OSC that the last lot ruined! Will try to be there depends if im well enough to go.

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I have so far refrained from reacting to comments about the Supporters's Club on this forum because most of the opinions have been just that - opinions.
When it comes to matters of fact, however, it is necessary for me to reply as I am still the Membership Secretary.

Accymel is a fully paid-up Member for 2006-7 and, like other Members, she will receive her badge and card when they are available. That will be weeks, not months.

I have not had any message, phone call or any other form of contact from her ; I was not contactable (as was posted on the OSC website) for six weeks from mid Aug to the end of Sept due to completing my OU studies for this year. Not "the past few months".

As Bagpuss ponts out, he has renewed his Membership. I have been contactable, as I promised I would be , for the last week.

The Supporters' Club has emphatically not let accymel down and I'm surprised and disappointed at her comments.

Just a reminder . . .there's a lot of work involved in being on the Supporters' Club Committee . I note the term ". . .up for grabs" in a previous post. What a pity that nobody wanted to grab my positions on the Committee when I asked to step down in May.

I have stayed on to try to keep things running smoothly, but I wonder why I bothered when I read such undeservedly critical comment.

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To refer to the gentlemans comments, i have sent membership email to confirm details that the OSC wanted as it was a surprise gift & upon receipt i did mail as requested after new year but recieved nothing back & im still waiting for confirmation email as expected for joining OSC site registration as it is i cannot log in for some reason. There was nothing to welcome newbies or give information to new recruits anything that has been known i've found out on here accyweb stanley forum - thanks guys. I thought nothing about my membership - other than nice badge:rolleyes: , until my friend whom bought this as a gift asked if my renewal had come thro - to which the site was down committee seemed defunked so was in no position to ring anyone because made clear no answers or communication could be given, also nobody knew really what was going on to advise me further, so seems the OSC is unapproachable.

Im a member of a few clubs btw, Stanley being the expensive membership but no matter i love my club, what really struck me was the dis-service, my other memberships can be bothered to send leaflets, updates, meeting schedules, by proxy voting postals for absentees, emails, even encouragement - nothing other than you have to turn up to the meeting or sod off is the attitude i feel it was, sorry its not always feeible to turn up to all or some meetings as the timing is a bit awkward but appreciate it goes for the majority - so felt out of it. I know how hard it is to set up committee & keep it going, im in the position myself but the key is to listen to members & even non members so that problems are sorted plus keeping your members informed is a key to most of it & i thinks thats where a lot of objection has come about from. Only today i find the site is back on.

Thanks Mr Morton for confirming my membership 410 least i can put a worried friends mind to rest now as he bought it & will wait patiently as i have done:D

I haven't critised you personally Mr Morton altho i have cristised constructively the club as above, if im ill-informed then that can only mean i've not been informed properly by the club itself & that is down to the committee as a whole not just one member of it is all im saying, i thank you for your response & effort in doing so.

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Thanks for taking the trouble to reply, accymel.

I think that you're referring to your attempts to register with the Members-Only area which used to be on the Supporters' Club website.

You gave us an email address which was unobtainable ; it seemed to be one at your workplace or somewhere similar, although of course that is only a supposition. Whatever the case, I tried repeatedly to contact you on it in order to confirm your desire to register, but with no success.

Because your Membership was bought as a gift we only have the email details of the donor. It is usual to ask the donor (if it's a surprise gift) to ask the recipient to let us have his or her full details after the gift has been presented, and I believe that this happened in the case of your donor.

The (now non-existent) Members-Only area was a great asset to the Supporters Club website, so I was sorry to see it removed by the webmaster without any similar replacement. I am not, nor was I ever, the webmaster for the site . . . I merely wrote the copy for the pages which you can still see on www.stanleysupporters.co.uk so as to provide information for our Members and prospective Members worldwide.

As the Club knows, the Members-Only area was intended to be the vehicle for Newsletters, publication of Minutes and other areas of interest to Members.
Unfortunately the forum was "hacked" , we were advised, by mischief makers, and it was subsequently removed.

Nevertheless, there has been ample opportunity for dialogue on (as we have recently seen) www.accringtonweb.com/forum and for any Member to contact me by post, telephone or email - as indeed dozens of Members or prospective Members do every month.

I hope that this information is helpful to you and to others.

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I'd love to have seen you stay in your position Mr Morton as I think you do a good job and have a reasonable grasp of what people need or require. My (reasonable) gripes about the OSC have been well chronicled by myself and many others. At this juncture I am not a member of the OSC and have been only once in the past five years. If the club was more transparent and welcoming it would have more praise, more activity and more money, in its present condition it deserves unrepenting criticism.

I know most 'faces' at the club and they know me, I talk to people and I listen to people. Yet I never seemed to know what the OSC was up to. I didn't know what they had raised money for, what was next on the agenda. All I knew of other than the presentation nights was the climbing the terraces sponsored event.

Through expanding communication with members and the media, along with new ideas and initiatives, I believe that the OSC can go on to unprecedented heights (maybe naively?) and can become a powerful ally of both the club and the community.

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Thanks Mr Morton will pm you with personal email that is working can only opologise simply i haven't received it & only can think its bounced back or deleted junk filter altho i do check still can go astray, my new mail which i will send least filter isn't in over drive lol.

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Hello all you lovely ASFC fans. Can anybody tell me the name of the commercial / marketing manager at the club please. I didn't want to start a new thread, because i'd just get loads of reply's saying the same thing.

Thanks.

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Accy Jay,

Yes this is slightly off topic;

However the Commercial Person at the Club is Joyce Pickles.

Joyce can be contacted via the club number

Joyce currently assists Wigan Warriors and previously has raised thousands for Burnley FC:)

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I'm delighted to agree with you almost completely about this particular subject, and I can only say that I've been preaching the same gospel within the OSC for the last few years.

You're not naive, you're passionate - and that's important.

However, I should point out that the OSC has never been short of ideas ; like many similar organisations it's got plenty of creative minds but it's short of people who are prepared to adjust their schedule and lifestyle in order to fulfil the suggestions or promises which they've made.

So that's where the crunch is - commitment.

And it must be said (because it's true) that the greatest commitment and the finest results for the Club have come from the older, more experienced Members over the years.

We really, really, genuinely welcome newer, younger Members to replace us and to continue the tradition. After all, the second rule of management is to plan for succession. But enthusiasm can be a short lived thing (remember the Junior Reds ?) which, if not combined with staying-power, can result in embarrassment and ridicule which reflects very badly upon ASFC itself . And none of us wants that to happen.

So, let's look forward to Monday's AGM in a spirit of friendship, progress and adventure.

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I sincerely hope that all the present active members of the club continue to attend and participate if the proposed new influx of people happens.

There are and have been plenty of ideas in the past but the problem is that they are usually of an existing or old hat ilk. Sponsored events are all well and good but it usually reliles on the same people doing the event and organising it and the same people doing the sponsoring. It ends up being a lot of hard work for little financial return.

I think that the new order should consist of as many types of people as possible all fighting the same cause. Let those who want to do sponsored events do so, but I think we need to look at fresher, bigger ideas as the way forward. The vision I have of the club is that of an important and respected part of the wider community as well as football. We need ideas to propel the profile forward rather than the purse strings. Hopefully the former would lead to the latter.

The Ultras once flirted briefly with the idea of trying to construct the worlds biggest flag. It was binned as an idea a) for cost reasons b) logistical reasons and c) what to do with it afterwards.

Lets just step outside of the box for one minute and try to expand this particular idea for examples sake. Firstly we could obviously get the local fabric shops to provide material for as close to cost price as possible and then get business sponsorship to provide the funds. In return the companies sponsoring us would get a) association with ASFC, b) association with a record breaking event and the innumerable press opportunities that would provide and c) association with something that will stand in the Guinness Book of Records for at least one year.

People would definitley be needed in numbers to build and transport the thing but I am sure we could get the numbers. We would need somewhere huge to hang it. Maybe off Express Gifts? I dont know if that is big enough, but the Coppice would be.

Afterwards it could be cut up into smaller pieces and auctioned off on E-bay. Own a piece of the record breaking flag for a tenner. I would. It could be sold in larger pieces to other clubs who play in red or white for them to use.

The net result would be that the club would benefit from ridiculous amounts of exposure in every football related media in the country, on every local TV news bulletin, the radio, the internet. It would be the talk in every pub in the country. No? Remember the big England flag that toured the country before the World Cup? That wasn't even a record breaker. That event would raise the profile alright and I guarantee would help get people through the gates. The sale of the flag would raise plenty of money for OSC (and local charity if I get my way) funds. If the club proposed putting 200 quid towards a Supporters Club flag, would you vote yes or no? If they voted yes how many people would be involved in it? Take the idea to the max and you could get everybody involved, and their wives/husbands/kids, and their neighbours maybe.

The club could and should scale the heights and be the flagship supporters group in the country. It has the potential to reach further into the community than the club ever could. We are proud to be fans of the biggest little club in the world, lets show the masses why we are the best fans in the country.

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What A fantastic idea :)

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Much appreciated, sorry to wander.

:D

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Just a reminder that anyone wishing to be involved in tomorrow's Meeting must be a current Member.
I'll be in the Sports Bar early (6.30pm) to register renewals and new applications . Thanks.

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but a further reminder also that you do not need to be a member to attend the meetings.



Obviously the cub would rather have your money than not but the important thing is your presence.


Could you please clarify the current membership fee please Mr Morton.

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Don't forget tonight folks.

If you want to change things then make sure you are there.

If you want to have an input into how the OSC can best help the club then make sure you are there.

If you are just an alky who needs a drink the bar will be open.


7PM

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Just to clarify the last post.

If you are not a member you don't have a vote :ergo not much input.

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I will deffo be there.

See you all tonight.

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To clarify the last post, you can still attend and you can still join in with discussion as to this and that. When it comes to the point where you put your hand up for or against, you will be asked whether you are a member or not?

We want people to join in, attend, help with ideas, help with organising things. We want you to be members as well, but IMHO that is not the be all and end all.

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How do overseas members vote?

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apparently you cant.

For some reason proxy votes have never been privvy to provision. This is another thing thing that needs to change I believe. It would seem that proxy voting would involve a newsletter first of all being sent out to allow the foreign votee to know what is being voted upon. Then somebody would need to collate the information and put his/her hand up numerous times for both sides of the vote.

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as from tomorrow things will be different.

I had tried to avoid offering myself forward as a candidate, but in the absence of all others then it is macca for chairman I'm afraid.


the choice thus far is:

chairman: macca or ..................................

vice-chair: sparkie or ..................................

secretary ???????????? or ??????????????? Mr Morton???????? please??????

treasurer hopefully Bill Nuttall will stay on.


By all means offer your proxy vote. Whether it will be be counted or whether it will be needed is another matter entirely.

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Please accept my vote for the members

Chairman: Macca
Vice Chairperson: Sparkie
Treasurer: Bill Nuttall
Secretary: Steve Baker aka Mr Morton.

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MMMMMm can i bring the sprogs if i cant i wont be able to attend :( & i havent had my official member card thro yet unless its there tonight so do i still count lol.

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accymel
I will have my two lads with me tonight...See you there:)

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Cool, just have to find a way to drag em up there now:D

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Supporters Club website says kids are welcome. They, however, are ineligible to vote, whether members or not, according to the club constitution.

But as they are the 'doing-fans' of tomorrow its time they learnt about the club in a bit more depth. And anyway I heard a whisper that coke sales are down this year.

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Lmfao!!! just make sure to watch my daughters coke then or sales will go up :p:D

Noooo they aren't voting anyways i meant me lol

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Sorry but the fact you have to join to have any input has put me off attending.

Good Luck with the Revolution Comrades

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Accymel, did I have the pleasure of meeting you tonight?

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Yes you did Diesel :D i got to hear about all your record pink slips hehehehehe:D aw it was so funny. Pleasure to meet ya:)

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I had an incline that was you...long haired brunette with the kids?

Congratulations to the new comitee of Rob, Spud and Sarah btw

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LOL yup that was me :D

Congratulations on the new committee:D onwards & definately upwards with new confidence - well done to our new chair, vice chair & secretary:D

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whos that then?

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In a nutshell, most things have been deferred to next month when the new regime will be in place. Macca voted as chairman, Sparkie as Vice, Spud as Secretary and Macca again as membership secretary.

Finances discussed and a list of income and expenditure given out to all comers. Meeting about to be be finalised when Macca remembered that a Churchillian speech was needed. Not quite the galvanising speech that I anticpitated but nonetheless the 25 (double the average) members present were left in no doubt that things can and will change.

I hope that everybody there heard enough to encourage them back next month. Especially Zero and Ian, nice to see you lads.

The club can only move on from its present situation if people are willing to get involved and do something about it. Willie, I stated in my post after Timmins that you do not need to be a member to have input. You need to be a member to have a vote. And that is right cos that partially protects against an influx of Barrow fans coming down and voting for whatever they want. To a degree. However if enough members vote that this is a stupid rule then next year it will not exist.

The club on the field is performing somewhere close to a maximum.

The support on the terrace via the Ultras is somewhere near maximum.

The support via the OSC is not. This needs to be addressed. Almost every person present tonight nodded their heads when it was mooted that the Ultras could do with being on board. The comment, after I was elected and took my seat at the front, was that in this new dawn where are the Ultras? I put my hand up and mentioned that I was one. Kinda spoilt the point, but the point was made. The Ultras are now respected amongst not only our fans but the community both local and wider football. We need your presence. Through just me, Frank and Spud wasn't totally adequate.


Thats three voices to start with. Bring your thoughts to the table. The revolution has begun, you dont need to pay your fiver to join in order to have your say. Your registration fee is there as a fixed donation to the club. The important thing is your voice, your ideas, and your input.

I dont want people to have negative vibes about the supporters club. You got a problem with it you PM me. I will try to resolve it.

I dont want negativety anywhere near the club. Instead of reason why we cant do something, I want reasons why we can.

I dont want unreasonable debate about unreasonable subject. Give me something positive to talk about and I will shoot down discussion about picture frames and butties.

This is not my club, its not my view that counts. If my view is right but more people disagree than agree, I count for nowt. Many people shook their heads earlier on tonight. How many will shake their heads next month? Do we need to have treasurer reports? If people ask, then yes. If people dont ask, then no. We will summarise on a sheet paper that is available for people to look at. Do we need to summarise the last meeting via minutes? Yes, so that people who were not present then can be informed as to what went on. But, can this be done via e-mail? via letter? via asking your mate who did go? via newsletter given out at the start of the meeting? THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WOULD SPEED UP THE MEETING. If you want this to happen then come along and voice it.

Should we have a raffle between attendees? Everybody pays 50p (if they want to) and the winner gets half, the club gets half. Tonight would of been £12.50 or £137.50 over the year.

Should the OSC year run from May to May, so that new committees and new ideas are in place before the start of the new season?

Should I shut up now? Probably.

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This has to be a record. First day in the job and the promised transparency goes down the pan. All complaints or awkward questions to be done by private message.

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get real Someone. I dont want negativety so I ask that you bring your grievance to me rather than air it where all and sundry can read it and all you want to do is pick at it?

The transparency is in the secrecy of what goes on rather than what isn't going on.

My post covers it quite well I think. Lets not spoil it on the honeymoon plese darling.

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:D do you kno what youve let yourself in for ..good luck;)

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My absence tonight was pure neglect on my part. However, I would like to voice my gratitude to the outgoing board, on the four or five occasions that I got over for the OSC meetings I was always made welcome and was included in the discussions that took place. I need not name any individual I have met through the OSC because each and everyone are included in the aforementioned sentiment. That said one special mention for the assistance and support of Steve Baker. Thanks Steve.

To those whom have taken up responsibility for the future of Accrington Stanley Official Supporters Club. Welcome. I have little doubt that you will all put the Club and the Supporters at the forefront of your efforts and thought. It’s not a new dawn, but the opening of a new chapter for ASFC and the OSC, God speed and may you all be successful in your endeavours.

Incidentally, a new job sees me dragging my arse between Blackpool, Burnley (via Accy) Oldham and soon Bury. This as led to two missed home games and little attention to the OSC. This will change after the mid part of the month when I expect to have settled down and got back to my old self. See you on the 17th.

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Mr Russell

Just wanted to say youve got big balls taking this on and all the bloody best of British with this mate - I hope you get out of it as much as you put into it and numbers at meetings start to swell.. Good on ya..

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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Willie, the whole idea of joining is so that you CAN and will have a voice in what goes on at the OSC. As Rob stated last night, we do NOT want the us and them syndrome, we want and NEED to come together as one for the good of the club. Yes I know the Ultras have been fantastic over the years and have a good name amongst other clubs, but as they say, a new broom sweeps clean, lets give Rob and the new committee a chance, I for one will (along with my partner) and assist in taking the club forward off the field (so to speak). Ideas have been banded around but the only way to get something is to be there at the meetings become a member and suggest it. As was stated last night, out of the total membership of approximately 240, the majority are out of town and members abroad! This cannot be right surely. Lets all get behind the new committee and spread the word.

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big balls is nowt to do wi'it Jimbob, pride and passion matey. Thanks for the best wishes

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Yes it does fella - you have to shirk what I am assuming after all these major changes, an unwanted reputation thats been stuck to the OSC for as long as I can remember anyway, and thats gonna take some doing - Im hoping you and the rest of the new committee can do just that..

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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Congratulations to the Macca and co..May your enthusiasm never wain.

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Ah but did you know that was me sat next to you?

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I'm sure I was there last night Rob.:confused:

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Yes you was LOL hope your there next meeting for special guest hehehehehehehe;):D

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Well said, macca.

I am glad to hear that ASFC is under new management, and I wish the club and the team all the best. I am not a raving fan of football, but I have always had a soft spot for Accrington Stanley. I lived with the sight of the football stand at the end of my road and the roar of the crowds on match days for the best part of my childhood.

I wish you every success with your new responsibility. You are very brave and, from your posts, very committed.

I like your motto:

New chairman, new direction, new hope.

Best of luck!!

Tricia

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hes not the new chairment of accrington stanley just the supporters club :) But yeh good luck macca

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Congrats Rob on having the bottle to take this on. My best wishes and support goes out to you and I hope that everyone is prepared to give a fraction of your commitment to taking this opportunity to truly unite all sections of Stanley support into one unified strike. Here`s to a return of '62 football standards of friendships and sportsmanship with the forward view of shaping the football of the 21st century.
Come on Stanley Family !!
Start rearing REDS !!

Cheers
LUV
Z