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ive heard on the grape vine that edwards and mangan are on the bench again on saturday. wrong decision in my eyes

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12th in the football league and all on decisions made by coley and bell. You are saying they are making wrong decisions? Mangan and Edwards played a full game on Wed and maybe that is taken into consideration.

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obvioulsy they were never in the frame to start on saturday, if they played a whole game for the reserves. and yes i think its a wrong decision not to play them .

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Our best two defenders this season have been Welch and Edwards - both outstanding - yet they have still to be together in the starting line up. I think that Coley is favouring Cav and either Welch or Edwards have to be left out to accommodate him. Wrong decision I think, but we have to back Coley.

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Am I right in thinking that Welch is left back and Cav is right back so the positions do not clash unless you are looking at center back.

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welch is a centre half. cav has been getting skinned all season but still coley plays him over edwards. People in the crowd on saturday were actually shouting at coley to get edwards and mangan on. i think there is a lot of politics with coley and if your face doesnt fit you dont get a fair chance. i.e edwards, mangan, brown.

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Welch is centre back and Edwards is right back, left back or centre back - he is very versatile. Last season Edwards kept Cav out of the team with his displays at right back but this season Cav walked straight back into the team and has only missed one game through suspension.

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I agree on both counts

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Me too - painfully obvious.

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what i dont know is why doesnt coleman make the change? it is as redraine says obvious.

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Sorry I don't understand this. 12th in the league and your saying Coleman can't even pick the right team.

I just do not understand. Have you watched them training. do you know everything there is to know about these players. I do not. But I am not saying he has got it wrong. You are.

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I think it's right not to play Mangy from the start - he's very keen & runs all over, but to me lets his enthusiasm get the better of him. At the Reserve game he got booked for a dive in the area, & several times took a hopeful swing when other options were better.

When he starts consistently putting away chances for the first team, then he's worth considering from the start

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someone, yes we are 12th in the league. That doesnt mean every team selection coleman has made is right just because we are 12th. In all honesty we have been lucky. The wycombe game in reality we should of lost, they dominated the game. The stockport game was only a win because of a wonder goal by welch, wrexham were just awful. But yes we won those games but i think we could of won more comfrtably if selection was different. Anybody who has seen accy knows that edwards is twice the player cav is. that is fact, but coleman refuses to play him. to me that is bizarre

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Take it you missed these games then??

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If its not broke why try fixing it? :)

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no i watched both games. wrexham were utter garbage, a kids under 12 team would of beat them that night, but still a good win.

the stockport game we were lucky, their front two were causing problems all night and they battered us first half. second half we were much better, but still lucky to win, only welchys wonder goal saved us.

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Lucky 1-1 Win :)

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Win your home games, Draw your away games

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I can see the point of both sides to this argument. Yes Coley is the man picking the team and he has got it wrong on occasions. For me, Phil Edwards is a sure fire starter, I cannot understand why it is necessary to leave him on the bench. Also why has Brown never been given a game, or you could argue about Ashley Foyle, Julian N'da etc etc. Lets give the guy a chance, after all he has brought us kicking and screaming from the Unibond First Division, so he must be doing something right!!!!

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For accrington to make the next step up they have to sort some things out.

1. a Dietician at the club. To be a professional outfit and not to have a one is an absolute joke its eseential.

2. Also video analysis of the opposition and our own team. i dont think we do this either??
3. A roof is essential in my eyes to attract fans.

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a dietician only exists at wealthy clubs. Who would follow the players home to ensure they dont have kebabs and lager?

We do have video analysis.

A roof is very essential. But we are skint. Apparently.

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Coleman is GOD

Here endeth the message..............:)

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a roof will not attract fans but it will stop the wet ones from drifting away.

kimberly you say our manager is incapable of picking the right team and now our setup is wrong. anything else ?

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the set up isnt wrong its just not up to scratch with league football yet.

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Of course, its always a matter of opinion - for example I 100% agree with you on Edwards, but for the life in me I can't see what it is that many others see in Brown. He had plenty of chances last season and failed to impress, and I was surprised actually, that Coley didn't move him on in the close season. Can anybody please list his strengths, so I can watch out for them when he does get a game ( and I don't mean Henry Morton's endorsement when he said he was like a peregrine falcon, or something like that!).
For "Someone's" benefit, he should investigate the number of goals conceded from Stanley's right flank when Cav or Edwards are playing there - that would be justification for the support that one of them seems to enjoy among the fans on here.

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ok then what should have happened? we get promoted and then start chucking money at things before we know what the standard of football is? we could have been crap and gone staight back down, we still could then that would mean we would face financial trouble, rome was not built in a day!!!

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Sadly for Mangan he is far more effective in his super sub role, his lightning pace is best used late doors when the opposition's defence are tiring. As for Cav, at this moment in time i'm affraid he is the weak link, as its been mentioned further up the page he has been getting skinned for fun this season. Sorry but those are the facts.

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Why not let Edwards start but def keep Mangan as sub, as he's only good for about 20mins then he's knackered, but worth 10 men when he's on.

As for Bocco and Julian N' Da, they played together in the French league and did superb, why not give them a chance and play them up front together ?
Cant see the point of signing a player then not playing them, especially when they worked as a team before.

Give Mullin a break ! he needs it

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how do u know that they did superb? unless you watched their game i dont really think anyone can comment on there past games pre stanley :confused:

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why the hell did coley sign him then ?, he must have known something, give the lad a chance !!!!!

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hahahahahaha :D coley knew nothing about boco before he arrived on the door step he has openly admited he never knew of benin (look on bbc archives) he signed him from his performances for the reserves and friendlys etc so unless you went to benin on a scouting mission you know the same background as all of us including coley, his background of playing in some foreign country we had never heard of then coming to accy setting the reserves alight and getting signed for the first team!

Similar story for N'Da although boco obviously suggested coleman to sign him so hes in the know ;)

Probably one of coleys best signings! so where am i not giving him a chance!

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I am starting to thing of Andy as super sub who comes on and pulls us out of the doo doo. He is still young so with time can develop into something special for the team. As For Rommy and Julian just because they played well together in the French league dosnt mean they can do the same here as its a different style of play and team setup. At the end of the day its a team effort and Coley is enough of a cyote to use them when they are needed most.

Paul may in the eyes of some need a break but with the way he is playing is that wise? At the moment he is the linchpin and to take him out might be detrimental to the side. He is the one player the rest should be looking at to emulate as his heart soul boots and everything else is Stanley. It will take a special player or injury to take Mullin out of the side besides do most teams not fear him (based on the rough and tumble he suffers) and dread him being on form?

JC knows what he is doing (hope he does) and we can only go from strength to strength. If we start to slip and slip badly then we can put a shot over his bows in the hope things change. We had a bad run of results and as I mentioned in another post it was confidence that was lacking and look what happened when they got it back. Please dont try and fix whats not broken as it usually leads to disaster.

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To me what's clear from the season so far is that we are not being outclassed, that the team can hold it's own in this league, so doesn't need drastic action. That's not to say people couldn't improve: I hope Rocky never plays in the reserves, as he would get blasted - you HAVE to pass the ball to another player, not punt it hopefully up field. Also, if Gary & Sean were to challenge now & again we wouldn't mind.

But on the whole, looking good.

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I fully agree with your assessment of Rommy and Julien but, on a more realistic note, Rommy was born in Paris and played twice for Chamois Niortais in 2004-05 before they were relegated from the French second division to the Championnat National, effectively the third division. Julien, who was born in Niort played 18 games for Chamois Niortais in the same season before moving to FC Rouen who themselves had just been relegated from the Championnat National to the fourth tier which is regionalised. Fortunately for us, the French don't seem to have realised their potential!