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Byrom playing tonight instead of Roberts, I almost possted earlier that I thought Byrom would get a chance at his shirt as Coley had said last week that he was pushing for a place. I thought that he was a central midfielder though?
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anybody got internet coverage?
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Nope:( all i got is north bloody padiham
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Now't. Carlise 1 up at FES
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GGGGGGGGGRrrrrrrrrrrrrr radio live scores coverage is crap [except here]:angry:
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Found some live updates:D cheers beeb
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Could hear poundland in the background of 2br half time report.
Wish I was there getting P wet thru instead of babysitting and listening to N. Padiham as you so charmingly refer to them as. |
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1 - 1 at FES
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1-1 Lumsdon og
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Chris Lumsdon Own Goal, Give us another Chris, then leave the rest to Mully and Boco....:D
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I just had poundland on, you can shove your hoo hah and Cart On Zero, cos I've just found me new favourite. Even the wife says 'its growing on me'. Thats Mrs Macca speak for its actually quite good. oh yeah keep on thread. its 1-1
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Full Time 1 - 1... Pens it is.
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Penalities :eek: really can i find anywhere to listen live online
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1 - 0 for Stanley
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BBC going to FES NOW....
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ok 2br back on:D pens
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COME ON !!!!!! 2 - 0 pens!!!
Nice to hear dan & Kaz:D |
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It's in..... for Toddy
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Its over we're up....
God bless you Mr Elliott. Welcome Home Lad.:) |
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! !!!! 3-1 pens!!!!!!!:D:D We're thro!
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Yep Doug Elliot is back! LOL:D
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We could do with our own radio station hehehehehe:D
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Accy 3-1 pens (BBC)
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stanley win 3-1
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stanley get in 3-1 on pens super rob were goin 2 the 2nd round
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Got to eat humble pie after Sean Doherty's performance tonight. I thought he did very well all through the match coming in for Gary, and of course blasted the final penalty to send us all into raptures.
His play tonight was much more consistently productive than Roberts's ever was, although he doesn't yet seem to be capable of the flashes of genius that Gary is when he's not falling over the ball! Well done lad. |
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Absolutely pants match but the penalties more than made up for it!!
ROBBIE ELLIOTT THE NEW PENALTY SAVING KING!!!!!!! Here's how it went 1-1 fulltime, no added time so straight to penalties They step up.....ROBBIE SAVES !!!(oh shame it was the lad who scored OG too!!!:rolleyes: ) Craney steps up.... HE SCORES!!! They step up ....ROBBIE SAVES!!! Todd steps up .... HE SCORES!!! They step up.....ROBBIE SAVES!!!(keeper hat trick I reckon :p ) Brown steps up ....KEEPER SAVES :( They step up ...ROBBIE GOES RIGHT WAY AND IT JUST SLIPS PAST HIM INTO THE CORNER OF THE NET!!! Doherty steps up ....HE SCORES!!! STANLEY ARE THROUGH!!!:D :D :D :D :D :D :D 3-1 on penalties |
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Having attended the match (crowd of 850) tonight, I have to say I agree with the post above about Sean Doherty. He had a good game tonight including tackling back and winning the ball. Thought Joel Byrom was OK till subbed midway through second half. Robbie Elliot was a massive boost for us during the penalty kicks and it wouldn't suprise me if he wasn't man of the match just for those saves. BTW it stopped raining at some point during the game. Linesman in second half at Clayton end was bloody awful. Did not know the offside rule. (2 defenders nearer the goal than Andy Mangan who runs through as the ball sails over there heads and he is given offside OMG!!!) and that is just one instance. Overall, the match was pretty even although Carlisle did have the ball in the net on 3 occasions, 2 were ruled out for offside and a foul. A great ending to a cool night in the stand. Roll on Saturday. Who was Gary Roberts??
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I agree with the above about sean doherty, he had a great game for me, chased every ball, showed some great displays of skill and whipped in many a decent cross, it's just a shame mully's injured, he'd a caused havoc in the box with that delivery.
Let's hope Sean plays like that on saturday, he deserves that possition on the wing! |
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So who do we want next????
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Tranmere or Blackpool if away. Somebody crap at home would be ideal. Rochdale please. four more wins til Wembley/Cardiff
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Attendance of 850 and probably 400 were from Carlisle. That's about 450 from Accy, we have over 500 season ticket holders WHERE WERE YOU? Don't people realise that these games are a bonus where everybody has to pay. Attending these matches could raise extra money to put towards the roof. Where were all the whingers who moan about a roof, where were all the supporters who moan about the apathy of Accrington people ? Last season and the season before we took loads to Bradford, Oldham and Rotherham in the LDV, where were you last night? Did everybody who has moaned about low gates attend the game last night or are you season ticket holders who won't go to a game if you have to pay? WHERE WERE THE MISSING THOUSAND LAST NIGHT, DOES ANYBODY KNOW?
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I wasn't there myself as I was working late. I went to the ground for a couple of bevvies though, got there just as penalties were being taken. If I hadn't of been working I dont know whether I would have been prepared to pay thirteen quid to stand in the rain (looked like it was gonna really bucket down) for a cup match.
Look around the gate figures for all the matches in the LDV last night, they were all very poor. Everyone else had price incentives as well. Other than the kids initiative (done via the league?) we charged normal price. People will not pay it, we say it year after year after year but the club learns nothing from it. I am familiar with mathematics that if you half the price then you need twice as many people, but 450 people at £13 quid a go is equivalent to 1170 people paying a fiver. Always a big chance to gain some new fans and try to make a few quid on ancilliary sales. I will be interested to see what the pricing is for the nothing cup match against Rochdale. Chance to fill the ground there. |
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I admit I'm a notorious "gate-whinger" and I didn't go last night. Here's why - a few years ago I gave up driving (I kept crashing into things!). Now, the last stage coach from Accy to the big city is around 7.30, so for league night matches, I usually stay over at the Norwood. However, I didn't feel I could justify an extra cost of £39 for a JPT first-round match. But, you're quite right, Jeff, and I did feel a bit guilty, especially when I saw the attendance figure. I promise that if we are at home or away at somewhere accessible by public transport for the next round, I will attend! :o
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Blackpool at home...right, I'll be there!
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Well, I couldn't come because the round trip is 460 miles (by train) and I would be repeating the journey tomorrow for saturday's Walsall game.
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For the gate price to be reduced both participating clubs have to agree. Watford away in the Carling Cup was only a tenner, both clubs must have agreed. Obviously for the Carlisle game both clubs did not agree, whether it was Stanley or Carlisle is only for them to know, but we cannot just blame Stanley for the £13 entrance fee, if Carlisle refused to allow a reduction it is not Stanley's fault.
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Sorry the die hard fans will go regardless of weather roof or owt, but to draw the crowds in at winter we need a roof & i suspect the weather would of had a bearing on attendances!! |
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What about the Roberts factor?
As I was walking up from the bottom end of Clayton last night I caught up with a Stanley fan on his way. "Wonder who'll be up front tonight?" says I. " Probably a few changes " was the reply. " Have to be some as Mullin's injured and Roberts has gone!" " What do you mean - gone?" So I told him and he said "Bloody hell I wouldn't have turned out if I'd have known". Had to leave him then as he couldn't keep up with me due to a by-pass operation, so I wonder if he carried on and made it to the game. Strange thing was about 5 minutes later an flashing ambulance whizzed past back down the road, so I hope the bad news didn't do for him! Horrible thought. |
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Terrifically boring 90 minutes of football last night but quite a few positives.
Joel Byrom is a brilliant prospect - aside from being a left footer which is invaluable to the squad at the moment - he is quite big with a strong playing style about him. Isn't afraid to get all over the park which is great to see. Top player. Hope Welchy ain't out for long & Rob gets his kicking sorted! :p It was also good to see David Brown playing, thought he had a decent run with no major mistakes so it's good to know we have options up front. |
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i went enjoyed having a yarn with spud and gazlad and enjoyed the penalty shootout!!!
shaun doherty was great. all you none believers get ready for a slice of humble pie. |
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I noticed when Sean Doherty took his penalty, he used his left foot. I always assumed he was a right footed player.
Maybe this was why he played brilliantly on the left wing and not so good on the right wing. A more natural left winger and maybe a good replacement for Gazza. |
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Didn't go last night because I was working whilst 6:30 in Burnley, didn't get back 'til just gone 7. Call me odd, but I didn't fancy paying £13 to stand in the rain after working a very long shift. Can't make Saturday either, but that's cos I'm working all day, so couldn't make the kick-off anyway.
Nice to see Sean Doherty coming good though, I had an incline Fulham must've payed bucketloads of cash for something. |
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[quote=JEFF] we have over 500 season ticket holders WHERE WERE YOU?
Well, I was there, with my son-in-law, both of us S/T holders for last four years, paying on the gate guests prior to then.... we always stand in the same spot, at Clayton end. Last night, it was distinctly noticeable that many 'ultras' were missing! In their place, we seem to have attracted a relatively small number of what I can only describe as 'YOBS'!! Their language was beyond the pale,(what happened to the mantra that 'foul & abusive language will not be tolerated' ..... there was a (youngish) steward, well within earshot... is it up to us to complain, or, should he react accordingly? Sorry, stewards, don't take this as a negative,I appreciate what a great job you do, always facing the crowd, & not even seeing any part of the game!!) Their incessant foul-mouthed chanting was over the top,as was their barracking of the opposition....... to hum/chant the 'Death March' when one of the opposition goes down with a genuine injury may seem amusing to some, but, to me is abhorrant. Maybe these people are always there, but, if so, are they normally 'drowned out' by the sound of the Ultras?? We also had the pleasure of an obvious under 16 (in for free?), two paces to our left, who was constantly spitting throughout the game, so much so, that we became seriously concerned for his health,(is he suffering from TB?) &, at the end, the step below him was was covered in so much sputum that it was a definite Health & Safety risk! Anyway, suffice to say, that, had this been my first game at the IES, I think it would have been my last..... in my 50+ years of attending football matches, I have never been so disgusted about the behaviour of those around me! Most of you may probably put this down as an over reaction from a 'grumpy old man', but, I remember the days, when, as a S/T holder at Maine Road, if anyone said so much as 'Bl**dy' when kids were nearby, they were severely admonished by those around them!! Link my comments with other threads on here, & possibly, it might explain why we don't have better crowds to see, what is for me, the best footballing experience, as far as 'on the pitch' is concerned, in all the leagues in this country. It would be interesting to know how many prospective supporters are put off by the behaviour of those I have described on here?? I look forward to some feedback!!!! Don't bother giving me negative karma, I don't give a sh*t!!!!! Gerard... see, I'll even give you my real name!! |
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I personally have never been too bothered by foul language at a football match. Sometimes though it can be a little too much but I would just move along the terrace, just as I would if there was a hooligan element intent on violence. Shouldn't have to but there you go. I think to some extent players expect abuse and Accrington will not be the only or the worst place they get it.
Absence comes down purely to money and what the game is. An FA Cup tie against anybody will draw twice that crowd, its an unimportant tie against an unimportant opposition only three days after an expensive weekend away for the faithfull. The crowd for the game against Blackpool will be equally bad unless something drastic (not just a couple quid) is done to attract people. |
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I was met at work this morning by a friend who's daughter is one of the Stanleys Angels Cheerleaders. He told me that she had gone home last absolutely furious and upset by the treatment and comments by the same people you mentioned Gerard, she said that it will be the last time she goes to the Stanley because only being 14 she should not have to put up with what happened last night. I saw most of what she was talking about and I agree with her although she did encourge them by responding. What did surprise me was one of our respected members joined in the baiting, no names you know who you are.
Which idiot made the decision to shut the barrier between the Clayton End and the main turnstiles for the stand straight after the game? Jesus man Carlisle fans coming one way Stanley the other, 200 fans trying to get through a 2 foot cap what was it all about. |
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Sorry, guys, but I responded to Macca's post in great detail, only to realise, that because of my ineptitude in IT matters, it didn't materialise!!!
Now, unfortunately, I have had a drink, & cannot post any sensible comments from this point on...... see you in a day or two!!!!! |
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I also witnessed the cheerleader situation, although she did encourage them by responding, if the people involved had half a brain then they would not have acted as so. She was only a young girl and was getting abuse from supposedly grown men. I also agree with gerard, some people where way over the top, and it really got long in the tooth, maybe funny once, but not for the amount of time they carried it on for. It seemed a strange atmosphere last night in the clayton end, until the penalties and then it was great!
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[quote=Bagpuss] she said that it will be the last time she goes to the Stanley because only being 14 she should not have to put up with what happened last night.
[/quote) Quite right!!! I saw & heard it.... If she was a daughter of mine, I'd stop her going! Sorry, you may think I'm prudish, but, there is a limit to what we, & our kids, should have to put up with ... I've got three grandchildren, why should I bring them to IES????? |
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If so, your comments are more valid than most!!! Obviously, you can say what you want on here, but, i am not trying to be sycophantinc when I agree with your views!! |
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I drove from Bristol to watch the Carlisle game. It was my first visit to the FE stadium - though I have been to several away games this season and last. Many aspects of my visit shocked me, but perhaps mostly the poor attendance and the lack of vocal support. I'm sorry, but I do not go along with the idea of reducing prices to attract more people. If someone was selling a book on, say, butterflies that should cost £15 but was charging only £5, I would not buy the book. In fact I would not even have it for free 'cos I have no interest in butterflies. The challenge for Accrington Stanley is to create interest in the club - I stayed overnight in a B&B and 2 guests said at breeakfast the next morning that they would have gone to the match had they known about it. There is an element of curiosity about Accrington Stanley for obvious reasons - that curiosity must now be turned into interest - and attendance. Many other thoughts - but maybe that's enough for now!
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its goo d to have feedback from people but how can it be better advertised?
It is advertised hourly on the two local radio stations, it had a two page write up in the daily local paper, four pages in the local weekly paper, fixture lists are compiled in every national daily paper (and as afootball fan out of town I would look at this list to see if there is a game nearby), its on the Official website, there are numerous forums about, Tourist Information would have details about it. Not everybody reads the paper, listens to the radio, surfs the web or visits the tourist information. The only way to reach these people would be to knock on their doors and tell them. Thought about ideas in the recent past include match day posters in shiop windows and advertising boards on the arterial roads into Accrington. However, the posters require disciplined dedication for numerous people on a weekly or twice weekly basis to go to however many shops and display the new poster. That is a logistical nightmare. The arterial road boards have been talked about by the OSC and the Ultras but as yet nothing has materialised. |
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I have no problem with swearing at a football match. None at all and myself swear mostly at the ref but at players and even managers. I do not care if women or children are present. I do not swear like this at home or work.
But these new yobs as you call them. complete with Burberry hats are also responsible for the racist comments at the wycombe goalie and again at Torquay. As they stand with or next to the ultras then you have heard them and done nothing. Don't be too surprised when you are all tarred with the same brush and the ultras are branded as racists. I complained to the club. I am far too old to tackle them myself. Ultras you need to separate yourselves from these people or sort them out yourselves. All the hard work you guys have done with the flags, drums, singing and everything else will be undone in an instant if you let these racists in. like a cancer they will destroy everything you have worked so hard to achieve. |
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I was also at the Torquay match and saw the very same "fans" that have already been mentioned.In no way am I a prude and I treat swearing as part and parcel of a football match - people just letting off steam (though I don't swear myself) - but the language coming from these guys was foul and abusive, and they seemed to keep it up for the entire match.
Though they were standing not far from the Ultras, I don't think anyone should confuse them with the Ultras, who are always fun with their fantastic level of support, singing and chanting, all of which is good natured and not offensive in any way (at least not to my ears !). I should also mention that I was standing next to an elderly gentleman who is very well known to almost all Stanley fans, and he told me that he was appalled by the abuse from these so called "fans". |
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I think that the idea of posters to advertise games is an excellent idea, tho' I appreciate the logistical nightmare. But at a more basic level, why are there not more signposts to the ground? I noticed only one - and that was only about 300 metres away from the ground itself. Surely signposts in the town centre, and even at the M65 exits, would be a constant reminder about the team in addition to helping first-time visitors. The town has changed considerably since I lived in East Lancashire in the 1960s (yes, I do remember Peel Park - even played there!) so directions to the FE stadium would be useful.
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Whilst I sympathise with the folks on here complaining about the swearing etc etc, Have anyone of you contacted a steward to get something done about it? If the answer is yes and the steward did nothing, suggest that you contact Mick Schultz asap to sort it out. I hear it sometimes in the main stand but I cannot point the finger at any particular group or individual so it is no use me complaining.
As regards the posters advertising games on the arterial roads, the club has already tried this, but the problem is, some yob is tearing them down within half an hour of them being put up. Unless we stand guard over them we have no chance (BTW this information was overheard from club officials at Torquay) |
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I also heard the loud mouthed ignorant prats standing to the right of the Ultras and moved away along the terrace at half time as their boorish behaviour was appalling.They obviously thought themselves to be the bees knees and highly amusing.
The poor steward was looking right at them the whole time and should certainly have drawn the attention of a few more weighty officials to the problem. Absolute waste of time the Tannoy man's pious announcements about zero tolerance of bad language, abuse, etc. when this is allowed to happen. Shameful treatment of the Carlisle fans, even if they couldn't hear a word of it from their end, especially when you compare it to their good natured appreciation of our swimming pool banners, etc, when we played up at their place last time. |
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point them out to a photgrapher at the next match. The pratts could then be identified off the website to club officials who could then take steps to ensure they dont get in again. Last thing we need is five or six numpties getting us a bad name, bad press and losing us other fans.
Unfortunatley this is the sign of progress. A lot of the louder fans have been around long enough to have developed a sense of respect for others around us, a tolerance of ground rules and a genuine love of the club rather than a love of a good booze up and loud mouthed swearing at anybody who will listen. |
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I know the people involved & had words at the Torquay game when "Tw" & "Cu" words were used very much at the wrong time & in the earshot of a few senior members
However, as an Accy fan I go to the football to stand with mates, get drunk & have a laugh not police the terrace. Stewards are the ones with that enviable task & get paid (or not) for the privilege If a fan stands on the Clayton End Terrace he represents himself not the Ultras Supporters Club........... If anyone needs me I'll be on www.stanleyultras.co.uk , the negativity & constant griping on accyweb, is gettin me down:cool: Adios Comrades |
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I get a feeling of deja vu....... again and again and again.....
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[quote=Redraine]Absolute waste of time the Tannoy man's pious announcements about zero tolerance of bad language, abuse, etc. when this is allowed to happen.
"Pious". What sort of language is that? We're not used to posh words in Darren - had to look it up!!!!http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...ons/icon12.gif |
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All right - "bloody stupid" then - do they understand that in Darren?:)
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4 arrested and chucked out today with banning orders, Mick Shultz has asked me to pass the message on that this is a family club and drinking on the terrace racism etc will not be tolerated and that the club have a zero tolarence policy, which has been shown today
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Were they the trash that has been talked about on here?
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