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Zero 26-11-2006 23:09

Still only 4 scored more than us
 
Here`s a positive thought as we assume 19th place

There are only 4 other teams in league 2 who have scored more goals than Stanley. Lincoln, Walsall, Posh + Dons.

And that`s when we`re struggling to put `em away.

What might it be like when we`re hitting the Mark.

Cart On Stanley ! Onwards and upwards.

sarah_d 26-11-2006 23:30

Re: Still only 4 scored more than us
 
...but how many of those goals did Roberts and Craney score?

sparkie 27-11-2006 08:21

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13 Including cup. Any more questions!!!!

Personally I think that this is a very positive thing it proves that we don't just score with strikers, players like toddy and the defeders chip in to.

This team was never about Roberts and Craney this team is about Accrington Stanley.

Three words . . . . .

PRIDE, PASSION, BELIEF

One word . . . .

STANLEY

KIPAX 27-11-2006 09:31

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Originally Posted by sparkie (Post 341617)
This team was never about Roberts and Craney this team is about Accrington Stanley.

Your right this team was never about Roberts and Craney. But only a mad person who is in the running for a mad person of the year contest would say we aint missing them.

kimberly-clark 27-11-2006 09:53

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craney has done hardly anything all season , so he wont be that much of a loss

KIPAX 27-11-2006 09:58

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Originally Posted by kimberly-clark (Post 341626)
so he wont be that much of a loss

I agree he hasn't set the world on fire.. BUT and it's a big BUT... Your point is only true if you replace him with like or better..

Zero 27-11-2006 10:41

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Thats Right, I try to start a positive thread and you`re straight back to whinging about Craney and that other guy we`ve forgotten already.

When they`re gone, they`re gone, time to move on.

What we need is players who WANT to stay cos they believe in us.

They might think they`re hot property here in L2, but Ipswich and Swansea are hardly the most prestigious clubs to want away to. They`ll be fighting their own relegation battles soon , mark my words.

Not long ago some people on here were questioning Craney`s ability at league 2 level, Mannix is probably better, but is he a stayer or another with an overblown opinion of their ability.

Question is are they onboard enough to treat the Paint Pot on Tuesday like the Champions League final. Cos that`s about the measure of it. (I mean the new guys)

That`s the way I`ll be treating it.

KIPAX 27-11-2006 10:48

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There out on loan and still stanley players... as such we will talk about them.. And I do hope your posting wasn't directed at my contribution to the thread zero ?

Zero 27-11-2006 11:04

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No Kipax, as usual you are positive and defensive of whats right about the team, lets hope that it`s only a loan, I love watching Craney for his dead ball skills alone.

I was unhappy cos I wanted a thread full of Bright Sides.

Can people moan about departures in the relevant threads please.

RESPECT RESPECT RESPECT to the 122 who went to Grimsby.
I hope you made plenty of noise.

Kipax with your insider information how many of our squad sing "I am Stanley `til I DIE" ?

baldy 27-11-2006 11:06

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I think its a big game on tuesday, not only for abit of confidence but for the money as we didnt get as far as would have liked in the FA Cup, just abit more in the kitty to many put together for a player in january.

kimberly-clark 27-11-2006 11:09

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zero you officially just lost the plot for a second, cool your jets.

swansea, i wouldnt go there personally its not really a big move but is at a higher level and craney will be paid more so you cant blame him.

ipswich - cant blame him for going there, former prem team, playin infront of 20k a match and having his wages tripled at least, everyone would go there including you.

in my opinion though, mannix is twice the player craney is anyways, he wont be missed as much as people think

KIPAX 27-11-2006 11:26

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zero your obviously one of these people who think loyalty exists in football... Wingy has a good sig on accyweb.. it says If you wan't loyalty - Get a dog

Every single one of our players will leave if the offer is right

Wynonie Harris 27-11-2006 11:26

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Mannix showed great potential, especially considering he'd only met his team mates a couple of days before. Reckon you lot will be really impressed when you see him next Saturday!

Zero 27-11-2006 11:27

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No its football that`s lost the plot.
Cash Is King.

Zero 27-11-2006 11:34

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My dogs on loan at Scunthorpe, do you have any dogs I can loan til Jan.

kimberly-clark 27-11-2006 11:39

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players are no different from us, they just want to get paid.
if a player could have the option of staying at accrington his whole career on 400 a week and going down as an accrington legend, or going to a mediocre 1st division outfit and getting 2k a week and nobody remembering who they are as soon as there gone. they would all take the money. all our players see accy as a stop gap before they go try onto better things apart from mullin id say.

KIPAX 27-11-2006 11:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 341648)
Mannix showed great potential, especially considering he'd only met his team mates a couple of days before. Reckon you lot will be really impressed when you see him next Saturday!

Yup I even started a thread on him so impressed was I .. Hopefully it's how he plays all the time... However he is only here for match fitness.. a month.. hope more..But just loan unfortunatly ..

KIPAX 27-11-2006 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kimberly-clark (Post 341652)
all our players see accy as a stop gap before they go try onto better things apart from mullin id say.

yeagh I "think" mulin took a drop in wages to take his chance in a lifetime as a full time player... I "think" he still has his business with someone running it for him so he has that to fall back on.. but he wanted to take what would then have been his only chance as a full time pro... to be a league player was a massive bonus and probably whats kept him going.. He doesn't need the job or the money As far as I know.. But it's his life and what he wants out of it rather than loyalty to accy stanley..

If Man utd or liverpoola sked him to play for them he would.. they all would :) you just know it aint gonna happen :)

Zero 27-11-2006 11:49

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Evil and Corrupt

I could be in a Beatles cover band getting 2x 4x the pittance I get in CC.
But I keep my integrity.
It`s not impossible to dream that others might believe that something very small might become something very great.

Accrington Stanley is the perfect team to return to the league with certain values that have been lost since they were last here. When I stop believing that little people can make a difference :confused:

I cant really finish that sentance.

KIPAX 27-11-2006 12:04

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So your saying that if a band making millions each week wanted you to join them... making at least a million quid a month.. you would say no....

Hand up everyone who thinks zero would turn down a million quid a month in order to ....well what?

meanwhile back in the real world.... :)

Zero 27-11-2006 12:20

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Only for a loan period until I`d got enough money for the

Celtic Cross Clayton Covering (with bar):D:D:D

I would much rather achieve my own success, and would probably antagonise people too much and get the sack anyway.

If I had the priveledge too ascend from the conference with a great name like Stanley there`s nowhere I`d rather be.

Bazf 27-11-2006 12:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero (Post 341649)
No its football that`s lost the plot.
Cash Is King.

What Bull ****....... if you were offered a recording contract with a major lable and touring dates, accomodation and a signing on bonus, but you had to live in London, you would turn it down?

Zero 27-11-2006 12:37

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If it was for my own band sure, but not some outfit I didn`t believe in.

Zero 27-11-2006 12:45

Re: Still only 4 scored more than us
 
BTW the analogy you`re making is more like Craney signing for Chelsea not Swansea.

kimberly-clark 27-11-2006 12:55

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lets be honest though zero, swansea in terms of set up are streets ahead of accy. The accy set up is terrible at best. yes were new to league football but you cant blame players for wanting to go. we havent got a roof, the bar is terrible, th pay cant be great, the training ground is bleak, there isnt a dietician at the club, the club is totally amateur, the lads play their hearts out while there here but as soon as a better club comes sniffing they will be gone in a second

Zero 27-11-2006 13:39

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Yes I agree with you that we are the smallest of clubs, even compared to other minnows of league 2. We`re bound to get head hunted. All I`m saying is it`is a far greater thing to achieve greatness through dedication to a cause than to be whisked away to (heh heh) Glory. People`s values have changed but that doesn`t mean it`s right. However it`s a habit that will take a long time to unlearn, but like Stanley`s original demise nothing is irreversible. We can set standards instead of following them. Facilities will get better if everyone sticks with it, (who needs dieticians anyway? they`ve managed on pies and lager this long) Stanley have made a big jump quick now we need to keep everyone on board by fingernails and skins of teeth until the club can catch up on the momentum of the team. I think Coley can keep us up whatever he has to borrow, and i think Stanley can grow into their new suit.

Everyone Together, Everyone Together, Everyone Together, NOW

KIPAX 27-11-2006 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero (Post 341715)
All I`m saying is it`is a far greater thing to achieve greatness through dedication to a cause than to be whisked away to (heh heh) Glory.

I think we all know that.. But people will take there chances when they come rather than hope for it. thats just the way it is.. expecting people to play on for one club in the hope that they may eventually make it up another 2 leagues and be a part of it.. well.. hmm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero (Post 341715)
Everyone Together, Everyone Together, Everyone Together, NOW

At the moment we are not doing well.. thats what people will talk about..why would you want to change that? it would be a very odd world if everyone just said nice things even when times are bad.. very odd indeed..

Zero 27-11-2006 13:55

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Yes but lets have 1 thread of reasons to be cheerful.
Although its strayed well away from that already.

KIPAX 27-11-2006 14:03

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How much did you contribute to the one I started then? and if you only want nicey nicey posts then say that at the start.. like I did in the one i started that you didnt post in.. http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=26035

kimberly-clark 27-11-2006 14:04

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dieticians are essential. especially at our level, you need every edge to be better than your oppenent. i actually think is a farce the club doesnt employ one, my 6th form team at school had a dietician so i cannot see why a proffesional footballing side dont.

Zero 27-11-2006 14:06

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Sorry KC I was being sarcastic

Zero 27-11-2006 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX (Post 341741)
How much did you contribute to the one I started then? and if you only want nicey nicey posts then say that at the start.. like I did in the one i started that you didnt post in.. http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=26035

Sorry Kipax I missed that one. I`ll think of something for that one.

It`s been a lovely afternoon of discussion.
A pleasure to know you people.
But I`ve got to go shopping with the Missus
ON STANLEY ON

fettler 27-11-2006 21:03

Re: Still only 4 scored more than us
 
Look, Accy is a Div 2 club with a Unibond ground and facilities. Don't lets kid ourselves, the football world moves on at a pace and Accy is locked into a timewarp. What do you want...Bury's ground (yes please) and there debts (no thanks), or a team that wins games (yes please) and increased season ticket prices (no thanks). The fans have to make a choice as does the management and Directors.

KIPAX 27-11-2006 22:03

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eeerm we arn't winning games.. can you explain your point please ?:)

FELIX 27-11-2006 23:01

Re: Still only 4 scored more than us
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kimberly-clark (Post 341681)
lets be honest though zero, swansea in terms of set up are streets ahead of accy. The accy set up is terrible at best. yes were new to league football but you cant blame players for wanting to go. *we havent got a roof, **the bar is terrible, th pay cant be great, the training ground is bleak, ***there isnt a dietician at the club, the club is totally amateur, the lads play their hearts out while there here but as soon as a better club comes sniffing they will be gone in a second

* - aah i didn't think of that, maybe that's why giggs didn't sign in the summer?
** - you're right, if the bar's crap what is there to play for?
*** - couldn't agree more, i mean does eric not know that before you can begin to build a sustainable football league club and attract the best players, a dietician is a MUST.....
....I've read some mad stuff on ere before, but crikey this takes the biscuit

KIPAX 27-11-2006 23:04

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Originally Posted by FELIX (Post 341990)
....I've read some mad stuff on ere before, but crikey this takes the biscuit

i take it ya didn't read denise post the other day then?. about how she was talking to coleys son and there may not be a club in two years time ... sorry but thats the prize winner :)

Jimbo T Hornblower 28-11-2006 07:43

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I dont know what all the fuss is about. I seem to remember only a couple of seasons ago we had a 'black' October and pretty inconsistent performances right up until the new year when we only lost 4 games for the rest of the season and just narrowly missed out on the playoffs! Ok the level has improved since then but I believe thats going to happen again and I have no worries at all about staying up this season. Coley and Jimmy are sheer class at their job and I guarantee they will turn this current bad patch around so stop ya slagging off of players (Now Craney and Roberts have gone, I wonder whose next to be in the 'slagging off' firing line) and start supporting for a change.

Jimbo T fed up with readin sh*te on ere :horn8:blower

KiTChener 28-11-2006 19:53

Re: Still only 4 scored more than us
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX (Post 341993)
i take it ya didn't read denise post the other day then?. about how she was talking to coleys son and there may not be a club in two years time ... sorry but thats the prize winner :)


Yes, Kipax, I agree, these people who seem to imply they are 'in the know', yet fail to back up their comments, infuriate me. They are nothing more than 'glory hunters'.
I have just completed a new kitchen installation for one of the first team squad, & you would have to pull out my finger & toe nails before I told you, either, who it was, & what we talked about.
That's what being a professional is all about..... both me & him! and you!!

KiTChener 28-11-2006 19:56

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Jimbo T fed up with readin sh*te on ere :horn8:blower[/quote]

As a frequent reader, seldom poster, I agree wholeheartedly with the above comment!!!

KIPAX 29-11-2006 00:29

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kitchener.. me? a profesional.. dont be silly... call yourself and him one but leave me out of it thank you :)

spud 29-11-2006 06:45

Re: Still only 4 scored more than us
 
Now the team are on a loosing streak, members have stopped slating the management, team, and chairman and decended into in-fighting with one and other....

Come on folk channel your passion towards the team on saturday, let's get behind `em and stop this rot...NOW!

Growler 29-11-2006 09:47

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"Accrington Stanley is the perfect team to return to the league with certain values that have been lost since they were last here. When I stop believing that little people can make a difference..."

Zero, football is business as far as the players are concerned. If all our players shared your values and integrity, most of them would be waiting for another trial at Everton or Liverpool...

The little people that make a difference are us the fans, not the players. We are the ones whose loyalty makes a difference. We are not going to move to Hereford if they offer fans cheaper tickets and a roof and bars in every stand and allow the fans to take drums into the ground. We have the loyalty.

JEFF 29-11-2006 11:19

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There are also only 4 teams that have conceded more goals than us - Barnet, Grimsby, Boston and Macclesfield. We have proved that we can score goals in this league but unfortunately it's the same old story - our defence, or lack of it.

Tin Monkey 30-11-2006 13:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 342671)
There are also only 4 teams that have conceded more goals than us - Barnet, Grimsby, Boston and Macclesfield. We have proved that we can score goals in this league but unfortunately it's the same old story - our defence, or lack of it.

I've slways agreed with you on this point Jeff, but the problem is now worse as we no longer have the players who used to score goals.

Haggis316 30-11-2006 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 343069)
I've slways agreed with you on this point Jeff, but the problem is now worse as we no longer have the players who used to score goals.

I disagree. We still have Mullie Toddy Andy Mangan and Welch. Boco will hopefully return in late January.

We have Whalley and McGivern. Post 1971 Stanley has always been about regeneration and growth, getting the best people available and seeing them perform for the shirt.

We have a world famous name and can attract people others cannot.

I expect we will spend the substantial incoming transfer money wisely in the January transfer window.

:) :) :)

Tin Monkey 30-11-2006 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 343273)
I disagree. We still have Mullie Toddy Andy Mangan and Welch.

Hmmm... Mangan and Welch are hardly setting the world on fire. Mullin has been a great servant, but without support he's never going to score like he did a couple of seasons ago. Todd will chip in with a few, but he's not a striker is he?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 343273)
We have a world famous name and can attract people others cannot.

Why is that? We must pay some of the (if not the) lowest wages in the league. I'm not knocking the club for that, but if you think a player would rather play for ASFC for lower wages than for another club for more money, then you are living in a dream.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 343273)
I expect we will spend the substantial incoming transfer money wisely in the January transfer window.

I really hope so, but I think that a lot of that money will go on the running of the club. Running a full time club on our attendances must be nearly impossible.

I hope it's not too late by then either.


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