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Come on you bloody reds.

Only won once away from home, bare bones of a team, three youth teamers on the bench. Only a fool would bet on us getting anything here today.

Anybody remember Exeter away, last game in our first conference campaign? Very similar backdrop to the game and Mr McEvil won us a tight 2-1.

Wheres Evil when you want him

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i remember that game, i was staying in devon the same day that the match was being played. :D :) :D

come on reds!!!!!!!

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Surely we lost that game 3-2 didn't we?

I don't even think McEvilly was playing for us.

Edit: Thought not. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nf/3634751.stm

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Morning/'evening my fellow fanatics.CMON STANLEY

today's game
 

1-0 down...******!

Come on you reds!

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()%($%$& already :(

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2-0 ...:mad:

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Oh ****,double jepody.

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rubbish 3-0

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gordon bennet...3-0

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penalty aswell so looks like were not going win this one unless jc comes up with something

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Thought we lost that game 3-2

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BRISTOL ROVERSACCRINGTON STANLEY

Possession
31% 69%

Shots on target
1 0

Shots off target
4 2

Corners
0 2

Fouls
6 7

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Does Anyone know the Starting eleven for today..???

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i fear I may have to step outside and chain smoke to inspire us to score.C;mon MACCA,light up.

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okay then ya bunch of nitpickers, maybe the backdrop was that season and the result was the season afters'. Because of all the confusion ya'll created our defence doesn't know whether it is coming or going. I blame everybody else.

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• 01 Elliot
• 03 Richardson
• 04 Williams
• 12 Edwards http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/ycard.gif
• 28 Jacobson
• 17 Todd
• 20 Harris
• 06 Proctor
• 27 Whalley http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/ycard.gif
• 10 Mullin
• 09 Mangan

I've combined the 2 threads

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We`re gonna win 4 - 3
We`re gonna win 4 - 3

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Not good 3 nil down at half time and 3 yellow cards too

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Elliot
Richardson, Edwards, Williams, Jacobson
Todd, Harris, Proctor, Whalley
Mullin Mangan


subs Bav, Baines, Murphy, Bell (jnr), Smith.

We aint got nowt to bring off the bench today lads.

KJ, 20 fags just broke into, I fear all of them will have to go for the fag jinx to kick in. cOME ON EVERYBODY GET THEM SMOKES GOING.




anybody got a light?

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Just recieved this from one of our new Asian fans...
http://www.pekingduck.org/archives/smoker-thumb.jpg

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lol Kiwi


karma on its way - oh hang on a minute.......

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that picture needs a link onto it and we can all click the smoking asian midget if we get to 3-2 wi' five to go.

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Macclesfield are coming up quickly on us now - two nil up against Swindon! It could be a really hard winter

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Rochdale 1-0 up. A black xmas??????????

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mangan sent off second yellow:mad::mad:

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Bristol - fouls conceded 16, what's going on????

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where are you finding the info K.S.H..??

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My stats say Bristol has conceded 19 fouls to our 8 and they have NO yellows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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sportinglife.com
Edit - says 18 fouls now

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this is mad.. talk about consistency
whats happening to refs....

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mk dons have equalised - gives us a chance

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...and after 22 fouls,one of the ***** has been booked.

Kiwi John - Please read the T&Cs for acceptable language use

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Another yellow - Liam!

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******* 4-0 , stupid bloody cockneys

Same with you stan-er-ley - Please read the T&Cs concerning language use

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MK have won 2-1!

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..but we've let in a 4th!

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Sorry,thought the system subbed the vowels at posting time.Please don't tell me mum.:D

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Oh well, back to the drawing board.















AGAIN :mad: :mad: :mad:

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i can confirm that he did put in a pm to me that he thought the system would have automatically censored it!!! naughty kiwi :o :D

as for the game no comment!!!!!!!!

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coleman must go ,Merry christmas folks.

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Elliott 22
Walker 27 (pen)
Nicholson 88


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• 01 Phillips
• 02 Green
• 15 Anthony
• 06 Elliott
• 11 Carruthers
• 04 Igoe (73 Lines )
• 07 Campbell
• 20 Disley (87 Lescott )
• 17 Sandell
• 19 Nicholson http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/ycard.gif
• 10 Walker (77 Lambert )

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• 05 Hinton,
• 09 Lambert,
• 22 Lines,
• 31 Green,
• 32 Lescott

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• 03 Richardson http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/ycard.gif
• 04 Williams
• 12 Edwards http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/ycard.gif
• 28 Jacobson
• 17 Todd
• 20 Harris http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/ycard.gif
• 06 Proctor
• 27 Whalley http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/ycard.gif
• 10 Mullin
• 09 Mangan http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/ycard.gif http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/.../img/rcard.gif

Substitutes

• 24 Baines,
• 25 Dunbavin,
• 32 Smith,
• 33 Bell,
• 34 Murphy

Ref: P Melin
Att: 5205

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Ok can anyone explain how Rovers conceded 24 fouls but only got one booking?....................Hmmmm?

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thats mad!

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Don't think so.

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No the person who needs to go is the one thats holding the club back. Most of you will know that I'm not a coley fan but he isn't the one to blame for this.

Also maybe its time to accept the reason mangy never made it at blackpool, its nothing to do with his ability, there's no doubt the guy can do a job, its his attitude and mouth. Maybe its time for him to be on his way too. And before anyone says he's only young, he's the same age as Boco and Rob Elliot, the difference is immeasurable.

oh and Kimberly clarke before you have a go about how mangy is the best thing this club has got, kiss my backside!!!

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Andy Mangan - what a bloody plonker! We have 2 fit strikers at the moment so what does he do, gets himself sent off for gobbing off (yet again) at the referee. Now I don't know if his first booking was fair or not cos I wasn't there but he has to learn to keep his mouth shut in those sort of circumstances wether he thinks its unfair or not. His lack of self discipline on the pitch just can not be tolerated, people say he's only young but we have a lot of other young players who don't have fits of petulance like he does. Get it sorted Mangy or ship out!

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I wouldnt like to be mangan in the changing room after the game! Does anybody know if he played well today? 3-0 down when he got sent off. Will he be suspended for boxing day? obviously frustrated,, another defeat, tough local derby coming up next. Macclesfield doing well. We need to get out of this rut. Hopefully January will see new additions to the squad and some much needed confidence in the side.

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Don't panic,Roberts and Craneys' loan spells are up shortly. :)

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Ive heard of wishful thinking KJ but............lol :D :D

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I heard from the ground that Mangan was booked for having the ball kicked at him as he retreated 10 yards for a free kick. Referee musta then booked him for saying ow! straight afterwards.

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Coley has this mentality of I would rather have 3 point s than 1, I think that has to change and we need to start defending the point we kick off with. We need to start the come back by being resolute at the back, tenacious in the middle and sharp up front. Teams now know that they can turn us over, four teams in a row have scored three or more against us and there appears no end in sight. Footy is a funny game though and we could very well win or lose 10 nil on boxing day. Bring back Ollie Parillon!

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Obviously all our troubles started once we lost Roberts and then losing Craney soon afterwards doubled the issue. Add to that Boco picking up a long term injury and there's not a lot of flair left in the team.

Unfortunately we're now down to the bare bones and if we pick up any more points between now and January we'll be very lucky. Hopefully we'll make a few signings during the transfer window which will allow us to pull away from the relegation zone.

The thing is, the situation with Stanley is always going to be the same. With very low gates we'll always be a selling club, whoever is in charge.

I never expected anything other than a struggle this season, but we're really up against it now. I said this before and nobody really picked up on it, but perhaps Accrington just can't support a full-time club?

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just back home to swindle.....missed the first goal due to work and traffic
but we played ok for periods especially after the break, but lacked confidence and i have to say pride and passion....this is only the 3rd game ive seen this season watford and torquay being the others.....but the players and bench looked down.
mangan was booked for having the ball deliberately blasted at him while retreating 10 yards..... a bad decision but then it looked like a staright red for whatever he said to the ref.......again a lack of discipline let the rest of the team down. to be honest we were never going to win it when he went off but with 11 players we may have got a goal or two back rather than being stretched and conceding again.
we all need to get behind the team and hopefully a win will restore some confidence, and give us a brighter new year.
some plus points..... jacobson looked useful as did whalley and as usual mullin tried hard all afternoon.
on stanley on

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Is it just me or does anyone else think our problems started when we lost Cooky and Dibble?

Re: Stanley v Brizzell
 

You may have a point there, its at least worth debating.

I feel our goalkeepers are deffo missing Dibbles input, perhaps the defence/midfield are missing Cooky's?

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and it was bloomin cold...

100 embarressed stanley fans who for the most part would ahve gone home at half time if they could.. it was truly hard to watch.... much better second half and even the better team for some periods.. but we didnt look like scoring to be honest

the goaly ran a thirdway up the pitch to take a free kick straight at the back of mangam and then ran to the ref to get him booked.. it was disgusting and mangs let the ref know it was...and got sent off.. thing is there was aminute or two gap betwen the two things... most of the other booking where desperate tackles becuase it was the only way to stop em..


oh and did i mention it was bloomin cold :(

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oh yeagh.. and for the first time this season (and for a long time) the opposition fans where singing going down going down... and it hurt .... long long trip for that.. not good


and it was bloomin cold :(

Re: Stanley v Brizzell
 

Why don't you just say it, the person who has done as much as he can but is holding the club back is Eric Whalley who in my opinion is now out of his league. Non league ideas and actions do not work in the Football League so before you take us back to the conference or worse please step down and move aside.:mad:

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Wasn't the greatest game to watch.
Thought Mangan was unlucky to get booked, the keeper just blasted the ball right at him - I'm sure the ref didn't even see it! he had his back turned! How can you book someone for something you didn't see!- Can't excuse answering back though it's never gonna get you anywhere, Mangan talked himself into the changing rooms!

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Ok, so Eric steps down. Who's going to take over? How many people are queueing up to take over a business that just scrapes by?

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I think I would have gone home before half time if I could, Kipax! It was truly awful today and it was damn cold. What a pity the fog didn't descend and then the game could've been abandoned!
As for Mangan, I thought he got a second yellow but I've been told it was a straight red and it was for something he said to a Bristol player, not the ref.
If you stayed in Accy for whatever reason today, you made the right decision!

Stanleybabe :(

Re: Stanley v Brizzell
 

This not the time for people pointing fingers and trying to apportion blame.

Cook for his league experience and Dibble for his goal keeping coaching appear to be much missed. But I do not blame any one in particular. Coley and Jimmy are doing their best with the squad problems they have got and whilst Stanley's fans are the salt of the earth Eric Whalley and Rob Heys have to grapple with the fact there are not enough of them coming through the gate.

In this climate much will depend on the management's ability to prospect for good non league players who will give Stanley 18 months and be resold at a profit.

We have all got to pull in the same direction. We must all get behind the club in its bid to retain the league status it has taken 44 years to get back.

We have to view it as as big a goal as promotion last year but it will have to be achieved in a tougher league without Roberts and Craney and with Boco yet to return.

Stanley may need to consider specialist additions to the coaching staff but were JC and Jimmy Bell to leave and Stanley to go down the club would risk further decline and a return to regular changes of management.

I think the club must shelve improvements to the Clayton End and relocating the ground and focus on getting things right on the pitch.

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Coley spent much of the second half leaning against the dugout, shaking his head.
I think he has run out of ideas and can't wait for Jan 1 to get some money spent.
Personally though, I would have given Andy Smith 15 minutes as the game was already lost and we had nothing to lose.

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if you cant blood new players at three nil down away from home and only ten men, when can you?

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What a huge contrast this afternoon between our management team and that of Bristol Rovers whose manager spent the entire game giving his team encouragement from the technical area. JB and JC did not move from the dugout for the first half hour, and when they did move they seemed more concerned with the officials' decisions than with the organisation and performance of the team. The failure to try any substitutes was odd.

But I also have to say that even the pre-match warm-up has become too casual.

Yes, today was cold and very disappointing.

Re: Stanley v Brizzell
 

How about the guy who put the money into re-named the clayton end ?

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Ungratefull lot... how about a bit of loyalty? Eric is the only person for the job...

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I agree. But I am at a loss to why people would want to change.

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Would he really be prepared to keep throwing good money into a bottomless hole, year after year? Businessmen with a bit of money to chuck around for a year or two are ten a penny in football. People who love the club and are willing and able to finance it regardless, are like diamonds.

Relegation (if it did happen) would not be the end of the world, as Stanley would at least be a financially stable club under Eric. I'd rather have a stable club in the Conference (or Conference North), than a defunct club consigned to history once again.

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Definitley, We're going through a bad patch, results will come...It's times like this where we need to get behind the club, chairman, board, staff, management team and players, come on stanley.. Think of where we have come in past few years, its all down to Eric and i agree with Kipax, how about a bit of loyalty..:)

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I think some of you need to get a grip.... True supporters support through thick and thin!!!! good and bad!!!! if it was not for Eric we not not be where we are now and some of you need to remember that!!!!! So were going through a bad patch big deal!!! there is still half a season left so why give up hope now!!!! im sure it will all turn around pretty soon, but if the fans all give up and stop going to the matches what sort of boost will that give the players!!!!

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Never a truer word spoken! If anyone's holding us back, it's the stayaway fans and apathetic Accrington public who by their absence have effectively ensured that we can't pay second division wages. Eric and Coley have performed miracles from nothing and long may they go on doing so!

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Did`nt we also have a pyschotherapist last year to work on giving the team a positive frame of mind? With the current run of results confidence must be at a low ebb, and i`d try anything at the mo. I don`t think releasing details of the players comparatively low wages helped matters either.

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Coley has worked miracles from nothing.
Any manager working under his circumstances (for Eric Whalley) is worth his weight in gold.
If you cannot see that then you need to take off the rose tinted spectacles that view ASFC as the well oiled club of years gone by.
We need to move on and quickly - if new investment is the way (most likely it) then it has to be done.

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I have only seen a few away games this season due to my location but we went to Bristol Rovers yesterday and I have to agree with Kipax and others........it was bl***y freezing !!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Whilst I agree totally that we should all get right behind the management and players as we are going through a very difficult time,it was a very disappointing game and we were 3-0 down before we even knew what had hit us ! In my opinion, we never looked like scoring and though we improved in the second half, it never seemed as if we would close the gap between the teams. As for Mangan being sent off, whatever the rights and wrongs of what happened, surely Coley and Jimmy must drum into the players that they must not, under any circumstances, argue with the ref and risk dismissal from the field. Not only does this hand an immediate advantage to the other side, but disrupts the team in not only the game they are playing but in future matches, when that player is suspended.:mad: :mad: :mad: How many players have we had sent off this season ?

Not being a grandstand manager, I do not pretend to know what the answer is - though our poor defensive record speaks for itself.:o I do know that results have gone downhill since Gary and Ian left the side, together with a mass of injuries and several red cards.

Hopefully, Coley will be able to make some new signings in January and lift us out of this rut. I have every confidence he will do that - and we have 23 games in which to get things right - but continued losses on the scale of yesterday's defeat will only further sap the confidence of the team.

Anyway, let's sock it to Bury on Boxing Day - onwards and upwards Stanley !!!! :D :D :D

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come on you accy fans dont get so down there is still half a season to go, a few weeks ago there were loads on our forum (hereford united) who were feeling the same, good post from the guy who said stick with your team in the good and bad times, not all hufc hate accrington stanley in fact when you played at our place i think jc had some good banter with the fans and also won many over. its been a long hard slog for your team to get to where they are now so dont go pointing fingers at who at the club is at fault remember without those guys you would not even be in the league!!!
all the very best for the rest of the season and i for one really hope that you survive because contary to popular belief not all of us are against you guys, one more thing you will always have a problem attracting support with all the teams around you. have a great christmas and a happy new year

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At last, a Bulls fan I agree with!!

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thats what you call christmas spirit hes right you know

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I disagree with how illegal it has become around here to criticise the club or the way it is run.
Our money goes in to the club week in week out, why should any criticism we offer be shot down?
People are within their rights to complain as the club isn't exactly breeding positivity at the moment.

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of course everyone has a right to criticise thier club if things dont go well but succeess is not a god given right and accy have made tremendous strides in the last 4 years so sometimes it is wise to take a step back and look at the whole picture, not long ago you were playing teams like liegh rmi etc in front of very small crowds ,one step at a time a couple of wins and the whole thing will look so much different (oh the joys of being a fan )

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We all know the past, but it all too regularly clouds our impression of the club.
I want the club to survive and move on, not live off the past.

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Strange this one, me and shaker against the rest who wear the rose tinted spectacles. Eric was good for the club but he has not moved on. My opinion is we need someone that will look to the future with ideas and back up those ideas. Maybe the pending court case may change a few peoples views on Eric but if he's any sense it will never make the courts. Sometimes if you take a step back and weigh up the facts you may see a different perspective.

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I thought Cllr. Jones was also in your corner Bagpuss? Strange bedfellow though he might be.

Your perspective of two polarised camps seems false, everything is not black and white!

Moving the club forward? Going forward? It's all a bit meaningless management speak to me, lemmings are intent on going forward.

As one Chinese proverb says, "Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still ".

There's no way Stanley are standing still, but that's not saying I agree with everything that they do.

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So, I wear rose tinted spectacles, do I? I take it you haven't seen my recent posts criticising the club for lack of progress on the Clayton End and Coppice End bars? Or my posts in which I take the club to task for not exploiting the potential of their merchandising operation to the full? I even wrote an article on the latter subject for the last issue of "There's No F In Roof". Other gripes from me over the last few months have included criticism of directors who make premature promises about the imminent construction of the Clayton End roof and the occurence of silly typographical errors in the programme.

However, unlike you, I do not seek to minimise Eric's role in the club's recent success story. Eric was the one who had the vision and determination to achieve a return to the league. He was the one who hired Coley and Jimmy and the one who has backed them and worked with them. Your comment, "Any manager working under his circumstances (Eric Whalley) is worth his weight in gold" makes it sound like Coley has achieved his success in spite of Eric Whalley, not working in harmony with him. OK, Eric is no Jack Walker and doesn't have untold riches to pour into the club. And, furthermore, he insists that that the club doesn't spend money it hasn't got, but, as far as I'm concerned, that's to his credit.

The circumstances that Coley (and Eric) are working over is the overwhelming indifference towards the club by the local public. A headline in The League Paper summed it up perfectly. "Accrington Gripped By Apathy". Eric and Coley have given the town a football league club, the town has turned its back on them. So, the club can't offer the wages that other clubs can and, so, misses out on the players it wants.

And what's all this "new investment" you talk about? Where's it coming from? I haven't seen a queue forming. Not surprising really, because as Tin Monkey says, who wants to put money into a business that just scrapes by?

This club wouldn't be where it is today without Coley and Jimmy. But it also wouldn't be where it is today without Eric. And I don't see anybody else stepping forward to take up the reins...do you?

And, by the way, Merry Christmas, Shakey (and everyone else, of course). :)

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Just started reading my number 1 Christmas present - Phil Whalley's book. I must say it exceptionally well written and takes me back to those half-forgotten times when Galbraith's fine team were riding high.
History is repeating itself, I'm afraid, with the Accrington public disgracing themselves with their lack of support.
I'm proud to be a Stanley supporter, but terribly ashamed of my home town - again.

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Wynonie, when I said "If you cannot see that then you need to take off the rose tinted spectacles that view ASFC as the well oiled club of years gone by." it was meant as a general comment - not especially to you - the post obviously doesn't read too well as it is but I'd missed the time to edit it.

Well there's definitely one wanting in.

I'm sorry if I have offended, but it's my opinion that Mr Whalley has been great for Accrington Stanley the non-league club and I do not disregard Mr Whalley's past acheivments. However I do not see the club progressing or even surviving in the league under his leadership.

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Is there? Well, that's news to me, but I'll take your word for it.

Whoever he is, if he did take over the club, he would still be faced with same old problems. Trying to run a football league club with a core support base of around 1,000. A pretty difficult job and one that Eric's handling pretty well at the moment, in my opinion.

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Whilst I have every sympathy for Eric Whalley on what he is trying to do, I do think he has gone on for one season too long. If memory serves me correctly, did he not say if and when we got to the Football League, he would step down! The other thing is he does not endear himself to supporters and club workers. People owed money, people who are assisting without thought of remuneration are at best berated and at worst insulted, why? Those core supporters that attend week in, week out, love the club. Yes I have heard the rumours of a buyer for the club, trouble is Eric has his head buried in a bucket of sand. And another thing, are we likely to have to pay the suspended fine for our disciplinary record?
The one other thing I agree with on this thread is that the folk of Accrington are apathetic towards the club. They have to be won over, and we have to have good facilities for them, because I do not think the prices are too much of a problem, considering Burnley costs around £20 and Blackburn £30 a match I think.
I think every supporter attending the Bury match should drag along a friend (kicking and screaming if necessary) I am.

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Well I'm bringing 2, even if I have to pay 'em on.

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The "Now Show", (Radio 4), did a skit about a russian taking over a small club about a year ago. Yes, they used Stanley for comic affect, not their best sketch, but only because they didn't know Stanley are back !

IMO it would be great to have a people's team, paid for and run by it's supporters. It's not going to happen. In which case you go for someone who has Stanley at heart, errrm that'd be Eric then.

I really shouldn't get involved in this, I go to watch and support Stanley because of the bond with the players. The management team have players that give everything, week in and week out.

The management have set that up! I'm not going to knock them.

It's been a great 8 years for me, I've done things no sensible man of my age would do. If an Abramovich moved in, Id probably move out.
Today was great, saw some people who've stopped coming (!), need to get them back; some Bury fans, that I work with, on Whinney Hill, proper banter, like playing Worksop again!

Gone on long enough now. Final note, we had a team out there today that gave everything, that'll do for me.