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Wynonie Harris 02-03-2007 09:39

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Does anybody think that Rover's plans to cut their season ticket prices will have a detrimental effect on Stanley's attendances? Apparently, there are going to be 5,500 tickets available for just £249 and the cheapest prices in the Blackburn End will be £299. Compare that with a ticket for the Clayton End at £275 and you can see the size of the problem we're facing. Very worrying news, in my opinion. :(

yerself 02-03-2007 09:50

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Preston North End have also announced their prices for next season. If you purchase a season ticket it will work out at less than £15.00 per match. A junior season ticket in the family stand will be £70.00 and accompanied children under 8 are free. I paid a hundred quid for my son's current Stanley season ticket. Will I be buying one for next season? No thank-you.

Wynonie Harris 02-03-2007 09:58

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Neither will I and neither will any of the other loyal supporters. But what about the floating fans?

lancsdave 02-03-2007 10:06

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The rich clubs get richer and the poor clubs get poorer and eventually driven out of business.

lancsdave 02-03-2007 10:08

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By the way don't forget that comparing £299 against £275 is not a true comparison. They have 5 games less for that and have to watch all that tippy tappy football :D

Outback Ozzy 02-03-2007 10:25

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This is an Accy Stanley MB - not for Rovers or Burnley or PNE - lets worry about our own problems and leave the board to sort out pricing for next season etc etc

lancsdave 02-03-2007 10:31

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 391225)
This is an Accy Stanley MB - not for Rovers or Burnley or PNE - lets worry about our own problems and leave the board to sort out pricing for next season etc etc

I guess you don't think it's going to affect Stanley then ?

accymel 02-03-2007 10:45

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:s_sick: :s_sick: Oh gawd dont want to see me breakfast come back for this load of :swear8: I'd rather be :uzi: shot, & even :behead: before i'd step anywhere near that :swear8: ground even if stanley were playing there:D

SO stanleys moneys save here :D Even me dad goes to stanley more now rather than those rubbish:D, come on maccy bout time u saw sence an all!!!:Banane51: :whack: :D

SamF 02-03-2007 10:47

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 391225)
This is an Accy Stanley MB - not for Rovers or Burnley or PNE - lets worry about our own problems and leave the board to sort out pricing for next season etc etc

This is our problem. Loyal fans will buy a season ticket no matter what. Kids aren't loyal. You can't attract them to a game the club's got no future. They would rather see the players they see on TV playing for their country than Stanley.

I have said this for the past 3 seasons Stanley would make more money with lower prices, there are too many high quality alternatives to lure away fans, and sometimes you have to face it Stanley are the cheap alternative for many fans, with if a better club is at a similar price they'll go there.

sparkie 02-03-2007 10:48

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Sorry Ozzy but this is our problem.

All our so called bigger clubs in the area, with the expception so far of burnley, are either freezing or reducing season ticket prices. I think this could have a detrimental effecton those people who were perhaps thinking of watching real football (with very few facilities) next season, as opposed to pansy football (where you're somewhat pampered by our current standards). All those fence sitters will be sliding off towards pansy football.

This can't be good for stanley can it?

Wynonie Harris 02-03-2007 10:48

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 391225)
lets worry about our own problems and leave the board to sort out pricing for next season etc etc

The point is, this IS our problem if it affects our attendances!

accymel 02-03-2007 10:50

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Not always the case SamF, my kids are at awkward stages with getting them to come along but i did teach them well - THEY wouldnt be tempted or cheapened by that offer < spit >:D

SamF 02-03-2007 10:56

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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 391236)
Not always the case SamF, my kids are at awkward stages with getting them to come along but i did teach them well - THEY wouldnt be tempted or cheapened by that offer < spit >:D

Of course it's not always the case, I myself am an exception. But I do know that there used to be 5 or 6 of us going to Stanley games and now I'm the only one, the others either don't go to watch football anymore due to it being too expensive or have figured for the difference in price they'd rather watch Premiership football.

lancsdave 02-03-2007 10:59

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 391233)
I have said this for the past 3 seasons Stanley would make more money with lower prices,

It's a fine line between reducing prices and and returning to the non-league days unless the club gets bankrolled as the premier league clubs have done.

Cheaper admission prices do not always get bigger crowds. Winners get bigger crowds.

accymel 02-03-2007 11:03

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 391240)
Of course it's not always the case, I myself am an exception. But I do know that there used to be 5 or 6 of us going to Stanley games and now I'm the only one, the others either don't go to watch football anymore due to it being too expensive or have figured for the difference in price they'd rather watch Premiership football.


Who'd wanna pay do much to watch divers, ballerina's...oh & lilly savage??? Premiership football is seriously not football anymore but battle of cheating & how expensive your players are, also clubs being taken over by foreigners!!

Football is championship downwards!!

Mancie 02-03-2007 11:10

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It could have a slight affect on Stanley.. but maybe it's the future and has to be done. I watched Rovers v Arsenal on telly along with another million armchair bods, and by the looks of the Blackburn end a few hundered Rover's fans.. OK it's a cup game and may not affect season tickets.. but I'm talkin about playing Arsenal in the latter stages of the FA cup.. and empty seats!

slater_scott 02-03-2007 11:16

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Premiership football is seriously overpriced, and when these prices come close to division 3 football, doesnt that show overprice in that league?


Im going to watch a quarter final next week for £5, my dad will be watching for £15, it would be more expensive for us to watch a divisino 3 game at the IES

thats why i aint been stanley for ages

maccy 02-03-2007 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accymel (Post 391232)
:s_sick: :s_sick: Oh gawd dont want to see me breakfast come back for this load of :swear8: I'd rather be :uzi: shot, & even :behead: before i'd step anywhere near that :swear8: ground even if stanley were playing there:D

SO stanleys moneys save here :D Even me dad goes to stanley more now rather than those rubbish:D, come on maccy bout time u saw sence an all!!!:Banane51: :whack: :D

ha ha i will never sence i will allways follow rovers but have been on stanley many times im glad they have droped prices because the earnings in this area are a lot lower than places like manchester ect

Mancie 02-03-2007 11:29

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Wynonie.. whenwe are talking about a £25 quid difference in a season ticket to watch a Prem team that will host the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea.. (no offence but) compare to what Accy Stan can offer...if Rovers reduce the price of season tickets I presume it's a business/supply demand decision.

maccy 02-03-2007 11:31

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 391260)
Wynonie.. whenwe are talking about a £25 quid difference in a season ticket to watch a Prem team that will host the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea.. (no offence but) compare to what Accy Stan can offer...if Rovers reduce the price of season tickets I presume it's a business/supply demand decision.

true thats it bums on seats

SamF 02-03-2007 11:36

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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 391245)
Who'd wanna pay do much to watch divers, ballerina's...oh & lilly savage??? Premiership football is seriously not football anymore but battle of cheating & how expensive your players are, also clubs being taken over by foreigners!!

Football is championship downwards!!

Millions of people around the world.

Wynonie Harris 02-03-2007 11:43

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 391260)
Wynonie.. whenwe are talking about a £25 quid difference in a season ticket to watch a Prem team that will host the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea.. (no offence but) compare to what Accy Stan can offer...if Rovers reduce the price of season tickets I presume it's a business/supply demand decision.

But why are the premiership able to offer price reductions like this? Because they've now got an even bigger slice of the pie from Sky with an extra £30 million per club. In other words, they're being greedy as usual and sod the little clubs. Pretty shortsighted in my view, because the smaller clubs are often a valuable source of young, fresh playing talent. And football isn't a business in the way that, say, supermarkets are a business. There's such a thing as loyalty - a commodity which is sadly in very, very short supply in Accrington.

slater_scott 02-03-2007 11:45

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 391266)
But why are the premiership able to offer price reductions like this? Because they've now got an even bigger slice of the pie from Sky with an extra £30 million per club. In other words, they're being greedy as usual and sod the little clubs. Pretty shortsighted in my view, because the smaller clubs are often a valuable source of young, fresh playing talent. And football isn't a business in the way that, say, supermarkets are a business. There's such a thing as loyalty - a commodity which is sadly in very, very short supply in Accrington.


£30m extra a year , we wish


John williams expects around £5m extra

Last years turnover was around £44m - £46m

and he is hoping to break £50m, its by no means guarenteed

Mancie 02-03-2007 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 391266)
But why are the premiership able to offer price reductions like this? Because they've now got an even bigger slice of the pie from Sky with an extra £30 million per club. In other words, they're being greedy as usual and sod the little clubs. Pretty shortsighted in my view, because the smaller clubs are often a valuable source of young, fresh playing talent. And football isn't a business in the way that, say, supermarkets are a business. There's such a thing as loyalty - a commodity which is sadly in very, very short supply in Accrington.

Looks like loyalty seems to be in short supply at Bolton,Blackburn,Wigan... I don't think it's a new thing.

Wynonie Harris 02-03-2007 11:58

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I wonder where I got £30 million from? Still, the money they're getting from the Sky deal is enough for them to cut their ticket prices and affect us. Think Stanley will have start thinking about various discount schemes next season!

SamF 02-03-2007 11:58

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 391266)
Pretty shortsighted in my view, because the smaller clubs are often a valuable source of young, fresh playing talent.

Which are then sold below their value to bigger clubs as they cannot afford to say no...

maccawozzagod 02-03-2007 11:58

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the pie is over £600m - it will shared equally amongst the 18 teams in the league. £33m to finish bottom. Or 1.85m a game. A team like Rovers who average 20 000 a game that would be equivalent to paying £90 each to get in. They should do it free on a lottery basis for that kind of money.

Bagpuss 02-03-2007 12:18

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Originally Posted by slater_scott (Post 391251)
at the IES

thats why i aint been stanley for ages

We can tell, now what's the ground called again.:)

slater_scott 02-03-2007 12:23

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 391277)
the pie is over £600m - it will shared equally amongst the 18 teams in the league. £33m to finish bottom. Or 1.85m a game. A team like Rovers who average 20 000 a game that would be equivalent to paying £90 each to get in. They should do it free on a lottery basis for that kind of money.


but the £600m is distrubuted in different ways, money will go the FA, premier league etc

not all goes to clubs


Fraser eagle stadium

My bad, its been a while :confused:

Wynonie Harris 02-03-2007 12:24

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Read Eric's thoughts on the subject on t'fishy site. "The rich are getting richer" - exactly!

Bagpuss 02-03-2007 12:28

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 391291)
Read Eric's thoughts on the subject on t'fishy site. "The rich are getting richer" - exactly!

Had to smile at part of the statement which read "We are very aware of where we have come from in recent years and we are determined not to lose the friendly face of football here at Accrington Stanley".

Eric please let your son Russell in on it because after last week it must be a secret from him. :mad:

Tin Monkey 02-03-2007 13:28

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It's ok people moaning about it, but it's definitely going to have some impact on us. The question is, how much?

So called floating supporters will of course frift off to watch Premiership football. I would do myself, as I enjoy watching the big stars and names. That's why I pay out for a Sky Sports subscription at home. It's ok calling it 'pansy football' and whatever, but most games do have a quality we don't see at the FES. I won't drift off because I'm a Stanley fan and therefore would always rather watch them than the alternatives on offer.

The thing we should now ask is, if those drifters do decide to go elsewhere, how much difference will it make to the crowd and the revenue in the short term?

We are struggling in the League and aren't playing very attractive football. Our 'home' gates have dropped off over the season, to about 1000-1200-ish in the home ends. I would think that the majority of those are now your core Stanley support and won't be won over by competitive prices elsewhere. Those supporters aren't drifters as the drifters have already gone (in the main).

So, in my opinion, it probably won't have that much of an affect in the short term. In the longer term, however, well that's another matter.

accymel 02-03-2007 14:35

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Tho the only drawback is now its been advertised by discussion to the fact on here that they are offering competition that could now sway the floaters that may of not realised or thought about it till now:rolleyes:

Bagpuss 02-03-2007 14:37

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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 391346)
Tho the only drawback is now its been advertised by discussion to the fact on here that they are offering competition that could now sway the floaters that may of not realised or thought about it till now:rolleyes:

I usually find footy fans are well informed anyway.

Outback Ozzy 02-03-2007 21:18

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 391233)
This is our problem. Loyal fans will buy a season ticket no matter what. Kids aren't loyal. You can't attract them to a game the club's got no future. They would rather see the players they see on TV playing for their country than Stanley.

I have said this for the past 3 seasons Stanley would make more money with lower prices, there are too many high quality alternatives to lure away fans, and sometimes you have to face it Stanley are the cheap alternative for many fans, with if a better club is at a similar price they'll go there.

Ok to all those who like SamF above think it is our problem, how are we going to solve it, because god knows Macca tried with his red and white fortnight at the start of the season, and others have tried since and been met with the same abject apathy. IF it is our problem, then get of your backsides and do something about it - apologies to those that already do!
I did not say it would not affect Accrington Stanley, of course it will, but and it is a huge BUT, the club has to be made more attractive to both currect supporters and wavering ones. As has been said, Man Utd, City, Liverpool etc at Ewood are what we have to compete with followed closely by PNE, Leeds Utd etc the Turf. Playing the likes of Macclesfield, Torquay, Bury and Rochdale - well as a true Accy supporter, is what I would prefer :Banane41: :Banane41: :Banane41:

PS we can start with helping out Macca and the other supporters club members with the open day at the end of April for a start.

mickmc 03-03-2007 10:00

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[quote=accymel;391232] :D Even me dad goes to stanley more now rather than those rubbish:D,

shakermaker 03-03-2007 10:08

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I don't know of one 'floating fan' that buys season tickets, so I doubt this will have much of an affect on them, however it does mean that future fans are being encouraged to watch Premiership football.

Call them greedy, but the Premiership clubs are Americanised corporations nowadays. Say Blackburn are McDonalds & we are Little Chef - are they really going to give a flying feck about us losing custom?

The Premiership is just one big billboard, we all know that.

mickmc 03-03-2007 10:25

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[quote=mickmc;391897]
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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 391232)
:D Even me dad goes to stanley more now rather than those rubbish:D,


Well our Mel - I took the deliberate step a few years ago, around the time of major job changes after redundancy etc - at that time I had been a rovers supporter from the age of 11 (now 40 yrs on) and had had a season ticket for 22 years

The price of the season ticket had been raised to a price that I could no longer afford and I made the decision to protest the best way possible by not going!!! as did a lot of my friends - I had been on ewood with a crowd of 1400 so I was no jumper on the band waggon - with rovers facing the drop to the division we're in now

I had always followed Stanley too - having been there at the last game in the league, being there at the first in '68, even to digging the little banking (before it was terraced and became the Coppice end - followed stanley to exotic grounds like the slopes of Bacup Borough !!!

So when my attending at rovers ended i still couldn't do without football and just attended more Stanley.

But now the big clubs are finally getting the message - there is only a limit to what the average working man will pay - now they've done the U turn I will seriously think about going again - but will still attend stanley also.

Mel don't have a go !!! - I quote - "Who'd wanna pay do much to watch divers, ballerina's...oh & lilly savage??? Premiership football is seriously not football anymore but battle of cheating & how expensive your players are, also clubs being taken over by foreigners!!

Football is championship downwards!!<!-- / message --><!-- sig --> "
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I seem to remember you being in love with a team from the Premiership, who also play in Red & White, whose supporters come from everywhere except Manchester - even named yr doggie after one of their "ballerina's"

People who live in glass houses etc......... :) :eek:

accymel 03-03-2007 11:23

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Oh dear dad heheheheehe same OLD family arguement lol, but quoting non comparables, least my colours are consistant :D

Whilst i was a kid i didnt experience true nature & excitment of football with 'that blue team' ruling the roost boring me to tears:D Huncoat united was more entertaining!!:p Up until Stanley was promoted to conference [I still remember the 1st match albeit on radio - the passion restored:D my true following] way before then even when i was a kid, stanley was reletively only known for its history [which i loved] than what it was doing at the time, so again back to the arguement of recooping new fanbase & interest was & still is bridging the gap of 40 odd years, as then the footybase locally was either 'those 'orrible boring blues' which was subjected in our house or the clarets which i have affection for & ended up being my 1st ever live footy experience hehehehehe:p Yes i liked Man U because of the enthusiasm to win, push forward - years before the Yank came in, days before they won the premier league, i did like the way they played, now sad to say money plays a huge part in winning than the talent like for home grown players that started in youth squad way back when, Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Nevile bros, etc - that made it more exciting for that talent to develop, unfortunately nowadays its easier to buy foreigners than develop home talent, sadly has lost me over the years, but to stanleys gain & i do see that little sparkle in them especially last season that needs to grow!! But again money is subject to issue & ruin footy as well as be its backbone. Anyone who wants to lay fault at spoiling football is the premiership & BskyB!!!!!

Now tho the mighty stanley is back & i do attend regular as a supporter than as formally known armchair viewer & will stay that way - back to grassroots passion!! Just need to incorporate that for attracting fanbase, also that the friendly family of supporters at stanley is a huge part to play - makes it easier & relaxed for new fans to the coop & also u want to come back again for that [i do lol] nice to have a local town team, which is newish to Accrington:D

Give us the old gree 03-03-2007 11:45

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So other clubs are reducing their price's.... The premier League is the most marketable league in the world so the likes of Rovers Bolton etc etc can subsidise their gates to a small extent, Burnley Preston and other clubs who's cash windfall is much less will probaly follow suit and discount entry to be offset elseware ??? elseware where is elseware let me tell you.... these clubs have thriving commercial departments Lotteries sponsorship spin offs the list is endless what do we have at Stanley that mirrors this ??? Absolutly rock all..... OK We have a part time lottery chap (Whom i support to the max, his dedication to Stanley is first class) a part time commercial lady, (another who does her best) however we need to wake up commercially we are not at the races FACT.

We need a busy active commercial department, you go down to the ground the place is in darkness it looks asleep, dead, lets get the place buzzin lets employ staff who can do the job, their is no doubt Joyce can do the the job lets make her FULL TIME she has the contacts and ability, get Mick some support lets wake up commercially.

This is the way to discount prices rake in more money commercially and for the record get rid of the e bay stuff... it's a laughin stock.

If we want to compete we need to move forward.

Sorry about this rant but i'm passionate like yourselves we need to suceed we need to survive.

Play up the Stanley

accymel 03-03-2007 11:51

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Excellent point Give is an old green, something of that has been touched on before with regards to store etc, but yes the good surviving clubs in all league & prem tend to have a good commercial market end.

lancsdave 03-03-2007 12:05

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Originally Posted by Give us the old gree (Post 391917)
Burnley Preston and other clubs who's cash windfall is much less will probaly follow suit and discount entry to be offset elseware ???


Not everyone is following suit, I have heard prices will actually be going UP at the Turf next season. Strange decision which might actually benefit Stanley with the floating fans.

stanaccrington 03-03-2007 14:07

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 391923)
Not everyone is following suit, I have heard prices will actually be going UP at the Turf next season. Strange decision which might actually benefit Stanley with the floating fans.

Does it cost more to play in League 2?

yerself 03-03-2007 17:36

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Neither will I and neither will any of the other loyal supporters. But what about the floating fans?

I meant won't be buying Stanley Season tickets next season, Wynonie. They charge £100 for a junior season ticket, three matches into the season announce a discount family pay on the day ticket and have now announced free admittance for juniors. I could have paid on the gate at each match and saved at least a hundred quid over the season. Another performance like today's at Rochdale and I will be a floating fan, floating off to Deepdale or Old Trafford.

lancsdave 03-03-2007 18:06

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Originally Posted by stanaccrington (Post 391963)
Does it cost more to play in League 2?


:confused:

Oggy 03-03-2007 23:05

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Accrington Stanley - Reassuringly Expensive

Well it worked for Stella!

rishton 04-03-2007 10:22

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I have spoken to a few fans who come a few games of the season, but have siad they will not pay £13 quid to get wet, so if the weather forecast is a bit dodgey will stay at home.

I also agree that we need to devlop more on the commercial side as how oftern have we been to aways grounds this season they appear to have a large commercail department and comunity set up

THE BLUE 'N' WHITES 10-03-2007 15:25

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So your a closet Dingle and a plastic red eh Mel?.....my my my, how it all comes out in the wash!!!:rolleyes:

accymel 10-03-2007 19:24

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Originally Posted by THE BLUE 'N' WHITES (Post 395667)
So your a closet Dingle and a plastic red eh Mel?.....my my my, how it all comes out in the wash!!!:rolleyes:

My my jealousy gets u nowhere:D


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