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Kenny Leam Rocky Roberts Branch Whalley Proctor Harris Miles Boco Mullin Bavs, Browny, Evil, Rosco, Edwards |
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I've got coverage on 2br...........
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Wonder if "Bonnie" Tyler`s enjoying his return.
Do You......? Ha Ha |
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Yeah can`t get it online cos Accrington is no longer in UK ???
Got it on t`owd fashioned wireless :) |
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Miles and Whalley off, Evil and D'Sane on
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And again we go down to the visitors...........Lee picks one up for Posh.
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The match stats from the BBC live text seem to indicate that we didn't even make it on to the pitch today.
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Evil Red Carded………What the **** are we doing. 21st on the table, 10 men on the field and a goal down………..nice one.
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Not a very promising outlook at the moment. Rather ugly all around.
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Branch sent off for a second yellow.
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And another goal conceded. 0-2 Full time.
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At least we won't be wasting time all week reading messages calling for Evil to be dropped for the next game ...:confused:
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Evil - do us all a favour & don't come back.
2-0 to the referee, yes, but we didn't help ourselves at all. Proctor left canyon sized gaps in the midfield and Rocky didn't do anything to help this. Mully was good, just goes to show how much Evil has been bringing Mullin's game down. Vintage performance from Kenny Arthur. |
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awful awful display im seriously worried.
If it wasnt for arthur it would have been 8-0. Midfield was nowehere to be seen. Miles looks on a different planet, not a footballing 1. only good points where arthur and dsane looked quick when he came on. what a fool evil is, get rid! branch should play center mid his talent is wasted at left back. the only way is up |
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Boco shouldnt be playing on the wing, hes totally waisted when he plays there. The whole of the team looked too slow today and were not very organised at all. If i was coley i would play my best players ie boco in the positions they play well in, even if it means dropping harris or proctor. The only player on the pitch who was half decent today was Kenny Arthur the rest were no where near up to standard.
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You can tell that things are very bad all round.
Crowd only 1480-something. Just goes to show that bleating and moaning does nothing but put people off. Very, very poor on the pitch. Team is disorganised and obviously very low on confidence. Played like odds-on certainties to be relegated. The thing is, we have nothing in reserve. Blaming the referee is very silly. We created nothing and deserved nothing. It won't get any better either. |
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Posh where clever with the referee.
they could see from the start he would only give decisions if they went down. Stanley players and Coleman should have got on to this and started going down when fouled. I have been having a go at Miles since he signed, today I was full of optimism with him playing up front. He was slow, no work rate, couldnt read a kids ABC book. we carried him in the first half. Proctor was the worst IMO. i just dont rate him. He brings little to the team going forward, and defensivly he gets drawn out of position to easy - and doesnt get enough tackles in. Richardson was poor, Williams will surely be dropped for Webb and Whalley was shocking at crossing - had a terrible 2nd half - i dont know why he threw a fit when he got subbed. Harris had no idea what to do with the ball when he was given time to think - v.poor creativity. No need to comment about evil - we all know the score. Coleman will have lost alot of respect for sticking with Evil. David Brown didnt change much when he came on. Only positives. Boco - was decent enough when he was given support. Branch - great ability to pass - not enough pace to play left back. Mullins - improved performance, non stop working. D'sane - lively, cant wait to see him start. Aurthur - MOM today. Cant see him sticking around come May. Annoyed how we can go from playing like league winners Vs Wycombe - to the crap we have suffered against Lincoln and Peterborough. The final ball is diabolical. Whos fault was the first goal? McEvillys? |
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Super, Super Posh:Banane29::Banane52::)
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1) The midfield again didn't perform as an effective unit. Proctor was poor,totally ineffective.Boco is wasted played wide.Whalley ran down too many blind alleys and his crossing was nothing short of woefull.Harris worked hard but didn't achieve much. 2) The defence is making too many BASIC and rudimentary mistakes.To allow players to run unchallenged before shooting is just asking for trouble.After the first goal,THREE players were asking questions of Arthur.What chance did he have of stopping either goal?? Instead of blaming each other, it's time the defence started shouldering the blame collectively.It appears that the lessons of last term have not been learned.:( 3) Miles is simply not performing.I don't know what Coley saw in the lad to sign him.Other than his performance against Stanley in the Macclesfield game of last season, NOTHING of what I have seen of him this term warrants his place for automatic selection.:confused: 4) Our tactics at the moment are far too predictable.The opposition don't really have to do much homework,because they know exactly more or less what they have to do and what they are up against.One goal scored in five games is a disgrace. Whilst the referee today made a telling contribution to our downfall,we can't be looking to use that as an excuse.I hope that Coley gets the players in for some serious extra training over the coming weeks.We have to start performing as a more effective unit, plain and simple.The players who aren't performing need a kick up the backside.If certain individuals aren't up to the task we need to find adequate replacements. And finally to the idiots in the Clayton End who met McEvilly's dismissal with their chants of vocal wisdom i.e. F**k off back to Wrexham,GROW UP.That "chant" really sends out a positive message doesn't it??? If the players can pick up on this negativity it wont exactly work wonders for their confidence.:mad: |
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agreed, as much as I disagree with his selection for the team over the last few weeks (dropped today) it does send the wrong message out to the team. The squad and the management respect the Ultras for the support they give the team home and away, don't throw this away for the sake of Lee McEvilly. |
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We are to predictable, why don't we try dropping mullin? any team that play us know that we are going to play the long ball to mullin (who can not flick and move at this level) and thats a fact! if we put the team sheet out at 2.30 with McGivern and Dsane up front the other team would not have a clue how to deal with us and if needed bring mullin on as a sub!! Unfortunately i don't think we haven't even got the midfield to play skillfull football anymore and the long ball in is our only option!!!! Andrew proctor is just not good enough for this level as robbie williams isn't and whalley will never be good enough for us, what i have seen of miles too he just isn't good enough, we have too many players who are conference standard and if we continue to play them week in week out this is where what we will become, a conference team!!!!
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and as for evil i only wish the rest of our players had the same attitude, it must hard for him to dropped for doing nothing more then the people around him!!! he has caused problems for defenders in every game he has played, i only wish the rest of the players would show half of his attitude, if they did i wouldn't be typing this!!!
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K S H.........No i didnt go today, like i said on an earlier post, i had to cover work in the morning, thus blowing my best laid plans.
This is the first league game i have missed this season. Perhaps if you had a few more fans with my commitment , you wouldnt be in the mire that hangs around your necks today. Tell you what though!! i didnotice that lots of your "fans" were posting about the game DURING the game !!!:mad: Thats why your in such trouble!! You had roughly 1000 home fans today. The same number that we took to Rotherham on on a miserable, raining sunday afternoon. See you down at London Road mabey:rolleyes: but somehow i doubt it:Banane12: |
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I've updated the league table if you dare to take a look :mad:
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we have played four fancied teams and we are only six points from the top, come on Reds!
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Evil once again has to start problems! I thought branch and jay harris played superb but the hero was kenny without him it would of been 10-0. But stanley wernt closing down! for the first goal the posh player had time to set himself up and pick his spot. I also thought that the ref didnt help either however posh did play better. But great noise from the fans under the roof :D
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The way I feel is nothing to do with results..... (well, maybe a little).
I've seen us lose many times and I've seen us relegated before. I've seen us exist in mid-table obscurity year after year. I just feel that we've hit a point where something needs to happen. I just don't know if the people who can make it happen, will do. |
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Funny old game, isn't it? We could have been four or five down by half time, but also we could have gone in one up if Mullin had got a little bit more on that free header just before the break. After that who knows - especially if we had played with the spirit we showed with only ten men - of course we have had more practice than most teams in that situation through the years.
Early days yet so lets keep the faith. I am expecting a positive reaction against Owdam on Tuesday neet. |
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Utter horror today. Peterboro' were simply on a different planet. The manager's team selection eccentric - again. He thinks Rocky/Dodgy Williams is the bees knees as we know. Eccentricity or lunacy? Another literally shocking performance from him (and others) today. And if Williams is so good as Mr Coleman thinks why is he scrambling for new centre backs of late? Had great hopes initially of Whalley but the siren calls from Witton could be heard on today's abysmal showing. Roscoe looked good when he got on and Arthur is excellent - that's it for the positives then. And, as for blaming uncommitted folk for not paying a fat wedge to see a team that barely escaped relegation last year and looks unlikely to emulate that performance this year, well, I don't! I am waiting, as Tin Monkey recommends, to see our performances against the lesser lights of League 2 to finally make up my mind but a change at the top must be that much nearer after today's debacle.
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Oldham? Never heard of them. Still, if we keep the children off the pitch and play in the belief we can win, then why not.
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the result was probably expectwed by most of the football world.
that isnt my problem. i have 4 main problems with today. * most players showed no passion or commitment - that really winds me up. * we have only 1 tactic and are not able to change our play or formation * we looked like world beaters vs Wycombe - and some how from the 10th of August to the 1st September we have turned into Torquay. * the ultras minibus to Shrewsbury is full |
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Hiya guys and gals,
We were kinda thrown in at the deep-end today with technical problems scuppering the Burnley full-match commentary. Anyway, the bonus was we got full-match commentary and I have to say that I thought at times today we put up a good fight. I think there are more positives to take out of the game than negatives (apart from the sendings off) and also the 'doom and gloom' factor you have to put into context as in if you take a look who we have played in the opening few games, Wycombe (promotion contenders last season, and pre-season favourites to go up this season), Darlington (who just missed out on playoffs last season), Lincoln (who lost out in the playoffs last season), and now favourites for promotion Peterborough, if you said before playng them that we'd get three points from playing those teams then I think you would have taken it. Maybe winning at Wycombe raised the bar and raised the level of expectancy too soon, I don't know about anyone else but when Mullin scored I was thinking all the pre-season bets were being thrown out of the window and promotion was a mere certainty, and I know I wasn't alone in thinking that at the time. I can understand the negativity don't get me wrong, but on the upside we have had the toughest opening few weeks compared to other teams in our position and I think once we get the goals (starting Tuesday when we batter Oldham by at least 4 goals :D ) then the run will come!!! If you can't make the game Tuesday, Dan and myself will be doing yet 90 minute commentary on the Stanley boys :) Karen x P.S. And on the upside two/three wins and we are top of the league x |
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From my perch on the oputside looking in I agree in the main with Kaz about the difficulty of the opening fixtures. I said the same thing when I picked the 2 Miss Long Faces up after the game today.
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I think 2BR do a great job of supporting their local clubs but on this one my own personal opinion is that anything that gives people an option not to go to a match and give the club some money should be looked at, or maybe I'm just talking twaddle and it really has no effect :D |
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Lancsdave, I understand what you are saying, but I cant really believe that 2Br's coverage of BOTH teams takes fans away..........I wonder what the listening figures are,Dan Kaz?
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I must admit todays performance was awful, the referee was dire, but that happens somewhere in football week in week out and as Karen said we have played some of the top teams in the division so far, its still early days and im sure we will fight our way out of the situation we find ourselves in at the moment...
Peterborough are reported to have spent around a million pounds on players....Stanley have no where near that amount of money to spend...its hard to try and stay positive, but i am... if we are still in the same situation by Christmas then i will start to worry..but until then... ...I'm Keeping the faith :D |
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I understand what you are saying but 2BR probably cover on average 6 full-match commentaries throughout the season and that's it. They primarily cover Burnley FC so can't see how we have a direct effect on it to be honest. The comment was mainly aimed at the contingent of fans who listen online who have no access whatsoever to getting onto the game, not people in the locality as the fans who come on this messageboard are the fans that go on week in and out and know already that we cover Stanley anyway. As well as that throughout the week Stanley are promoted as playing at home or away giving people the choice to go, I'd like to think the coverage that all the press gives Stanley goes someway in helping people come onto the games. It's better having some Google Page Ranking than no Google Page Ranking I think!!
I can understand what you are saying but thats like saying Radio Cambridgeshire who covered the full-match for Peterborough today still saw probably about 200-250 travel so not sure that it does make any difference! I think it's down to the individual, I would love it if we had a full house every week at Stanley, it would be sound, but you just have to look at the attendances at Burnley and Blackburn to realise that sometimes that extra tenner that you have at the weekend might be needed for something more needy. I just don't know and if I did the stands at Stanley would be full x Also, myself and Dan do go on and on on air about how we would like fans to come onto the game week in and out which should say a lot really. Karen P.S. Accyred I'm keeping the faith too :-) |
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Fair comment Karen, and very polite cos you could have just said I was talking twaddle :D |
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Do you guys really think the referee was that bias today?
Branch should have been sent of for a professional foul after 5 minutes, so was lucky to manage 85 minutes on the pitch. McEvilly was sent off for stamping on Jamie Day. You surely can't argue with either decision. The penalty was definitely a penalty, Mclean would have scored had he not been fouled, so why would he dive? Posh had a goal disallowed for no good reason, there was no way it was offiside, the ball came from a Stanley player. To say the ref was to blame for your defeat gives you too much credit. No offence but you were not at the races today at all. For our part we needed a win today for a confidence boost, worked hard and got the win. Best performance by Posh so far this season and that includes the Southampton game. The only down point was that we didn't finish you off earlier. I always like coming to Accrington anyway, nice "Proper" ground although the bellybuster burgers are a bit steep at £4.50. At least you can watch some amateur football on the park behind the ground at Half time, too. The red team looked good. You should take a look at their number 7. Could do a job for you. |
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Low threw his hands in the air for the 2nd challenge by branch. McLean rolled around like he had been hit by a bus for the pen. u deserved to win - but you wont win the league. good luck. |
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Too other Accy fans, I am losing my faith rapidly. O.K. so we have played 4 of the fancied teams in the league as the first four games, but to me, Coleman is completely devoid of ideas. Evil should be sacked here and now for the stamp on the Peterboro player. I am assuming that Branchy will just miss the Oldham match, but McEvilly will be out for 3 (thank goodness). Roscoe D'Sane must start the next match with Rommy coming more into the centre of the field and let him roam and weave his magic. I think as others have said on other threads, the time has come for EW to put up or shut up whinging. I will be there Tuesday night and next Saturday, and I expect a much improved performance. Hopefully Cav will be fit and Phil Edwards on the other side as the full back. Our new signing (if he has international clearance) and Roberts in midfield. I am also of the opinion that Paul Mullin should be rested along with Rocky. Give some of the reserves a chance to shine, especially on Tuesday. Who cares about the tin pot trophy. |
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You're going to have a very tough job chasing promotion with McLean and Boyd up front. The stamp incident was disgusting, but let's face it; throughout the game Jamie Day went down more times than I care to remember, and always got up just fine after a sufficient amount of time on his arse (while the ref booked one of our players). After we made that double substitution, our fate was sealed. Had McEvilly stayed on the bench, the game could have turned out very differently. I actually thought we looked good as half-time came and was optimistic about the possibility of holding out for a draw or maybe even sneaking a winner. However after the substitution, the whole side was nothing short of absent, and you only just beat us two nil. If Posh can't demolish a side that plays like that 4-0 or more, they're never going to be promoted. |
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The people blaming the referee are grasping at straws. It's always the same.
In all honesty (and we all know this inside), we're a poor (financially) club, with a poor (ability) team. Grimsby next week will be the real test. We need to be winning at home against teams that are down there with us. |
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Not blaming the ref for defeat at all really. I think everyone recognises we were fantastically awful.
The ref's extremely below par performance can't go unmentioned though. |
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McLean was quality, he caused the back four problems all game, he's so strong and makes chances out of nothing e.g his goal and when he hit hte bar, he's a player... |
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My gut instinct on the disallowed goal was that it came of an Accrington player to fall to Day. The summariser on the Championship was equally confused by it as well. Still I'll admit I wasn't stood in a great position to see.
I can't say I've noticed us as a team of divers. We've got some bloody fast players, and we do get kicked and roughed up a hell of a lot, but obviously I watch the game with blue tinted spectacles (thats gluacoma for you). As for Mclean, well he is one of the best strikers I've seen at Posh in years. Scored in each of his last 7 league games now and I fully expect him to expand on that. Boyd will come good for us, but the thing is that the best centre forward at the club (Mackail-Smith) is still two weeks away from fitness, and when he's back Boyd will be on the bench. Accrington seems to be a much changed side from when we played in April. Then you took the game to us and pretty much dominated throughout, I was expecting more of the same to be honest, especially with our defence conceding 8 goals in our last 3 games. |
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I agree with Zayno , McLean is class, he murdered us in the conference and, if stays fit will probably be top scorer in the league... I still cannot forget his performance for Grays against us at the crown in the conference. Class
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I wasn't at the game, but I would like to just say this you are saying that the ref was very biased towards us. If this was the case then its about time that we had one like that! We always get the refs that seem to think it's funny to make us play 12 men! Sorry that we had to get the ref that gave us everything against you guys, but like I say it's about time we had one that gave us everything!
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We can now look forward to D'Sane, Paul Carden and Sean Webb showing us what they can do.
I personally think D'Sane and Mullin will be the best thing since his partnership with Lutel James. Nor have we seen a fully fit Lee McEvilly. We had bad runs against the best teams last season after Roberts left including sequences of home defeats and again in the New Year. We took no points from the higher placed opposition in any of our last away games. This season we took 3 from our first. This negativity is misplaced and an unnecessary distraction from the matter in hand which is to win games and needs to end fast before it becomes, a mind set and an unfounded self fulfilling prophesy. |
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yesterday i thought we were too defensive .we were just inviting them to attack .we were getting ripped to shreds because we have no pace up front, midfield or attack .sean whalley dont want to go there hes just a headless chicken jay harris is another he runs about and leaves his position.every time he chased for the ball they knew their would be gap in midfield and they were through im not even going to talk about the defence the usual suspects.how hard is it to hold your position.i reckon we should play 3-5-2 with branch in midfield and push up like we did at the end of last season because in king kenny we have a keeper who can read the game,i think he should be made captain as he would be more inspirational than mullers it like what i was saying last season hes too quiet to be a captain .let him concentrate on scoring goals and tell him to stay out of the midfield area hes a striker so he should be up front not chasing back .every time we get posession its not even worth punting it up because theres nobody there.andy proctor this league is way out his league i would love to look at stats and see how many completed passes he has done.or how many times he loses posession .i know im slating the team but when you pay money to watch it you have the right to slate..
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I knew from the off that Evil was a bad signing, stamping is almost as low as spitting, get rid now.
On the plus side, thought that Kenny Arthur and Mark Roberts had very good games. Miles looked very poor, as did Whalley. Overall, just utterly poor, what happened to the attacking Stanley of recent seasons? |
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i think colemans persistence with Miles is as much of a problem as Evil. |
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Miles is just rubbish. |
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At least Miles can hopefully improve though - McEvilly is just a lost cause!
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Talking to a few of the Posh fans before the game on Staurday they hold Paul
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Strange one with Miles, when I came to watch the game against Macclesfield last season I thought he ran the game first half. Suprised to hear he hasn't found his form yet.
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Does anyone know what John Miles' role is? I had assumed that he had come as a striker to play off Mullers - but maybe not. Is he supposed to be playing as a striker in the Sheringham style? In the hole, as the current phrase seems to be (unfortunately!). Is he being used as an attacking midfielder? Maybe I am missing something. He is certainly not the player that was so effective for Macclesfield last season - and not only when he played against us.
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purely and simply he shouldn't be playing then. There are four hundred and sixteen strikers on the books who would love his place on the team. McEvilly has not been fit and as such his reputation and confidence will have been shot to pieces and we will doubtlessly never see his potential fulfilled. If he is unfit and out of position then surely somebody fit and out of position would do a better job. right footed left backs playing at right back and trying to keep cutting in their left? right footed left wingers playing on the right and not knowing which foot to control the ball with? |
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