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i see that 2 asfc fans were ejected from christie park last night for throwing missiles onto the pitch,even if these missiles were only till rolls,it is still an offence under football league regulation,many years ago you could get away with throwing toilet rolls and even in our uni -bond days you might get away with it,i myself have also throw toilet rolls on to the pitch during our non league outings, but there must be a line drawn between enjoying oneself and hooliganism,this could have resulted in an injury to a fan or even worse a player,the punishment according to f.a regulations is a life ban,but do we put this down as high spirits of an asfc fan or just hooliganism,i know according to other posts that one of the culprits was jase,if so i hope EW understands that passions run deep and is not to severe in the lenght of the ban,as jase has done a lot to bring entertainment to the terraces with the flags and banners and it would be a shame if one little mistake stopped him watching asfc,what are the thoughts of others re this incident

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I suspect this thread will go round in circles.

The rules state nothing should be thrown simply because people will always have their own views on what is safe and what is not safe. If you took a box of confetti in and threw a handful of it then we all know it won't do any harm but technically it's an offence. On the other hand some idiots think it's perfectly okay to throw coins, after all a penny is only a small object isn't it :rolleyes:

It's a bit like standing at an all seater stadium, there are still lots of people who prefer to stand ( personally I'd prefer an option in all grounds ) but if you are in all seater stadium then the rules state you sit for most of the game. There are still those though who because they don't agree with the rules will stand. The problem is they blame the stewards when the rule is enforced.

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just been on the official F.A. website to get more info on this and its not up to the club who the culprit supports (but the club can still put a banning order in place at their own ground)) the F.A decide the punishment and according to their guidelines its a lifetime ban. There is no right of appeal on any ban they give and the club has to go with their decision.

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Not all banning orders are for life. To be honest I don't recall ever see it being applied although I'm sure somebody can find one. A recent case reported in the Nelson Leader in Nelson shows that orders are usually up to 2 or 3 years even if the offenders have previously held banning orders;

http://www.pendletoday.co.uk/nelson-...gan.3395786.jp

Not sure banning orders are put in place of people have only been ejected from a ground ( then a club may apply there own I guess), if the offence is charged and goes through the court I think the police apply for banning orders as standard.

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If anyone has taken note of the Morecambe ticket on the back it has their terms & conditions in particular as below:

No 3 - Supporters are reminded that it is a criminal offence to a] enter upon field of play; b] chant foul & abusive or racist remarks; c] throw any objects towards the playing area or other areas of the stadium, d] in possession of intoxicating liquor or illegal substances whilst in view of the pitch or whilst entering the ground. THESE ARE ARRESTABLE OFFENCES [they put that in caps].

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Blimey there would have been thousands arrested at the Turf for that last night, me included :eek: :D

The rules are standard at most grounds, it's how they are applied that tends to vary.

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LOL Dave :rofl38: must admit that one is a bit way too far fetched to be applied, gee we would all have been staying at Morecambe a some point:D, i dont think the smoking bans helps at all.

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I thought one steward in particular MUST of been someone who always wanted to be a copper but for whatever reason it didnt come about, so he walks around football grounds waiting for the slightest reason to eject people. If jase and the other lad get banned for this its ludicrous! They are NOT hooligans, and if this is how soft football has become on and off the pitch then no wonder so many have said shove it up your arse im going down the local to watch it with men not ponses. I dont throw things personally but I swear and will join in with abusive chants to the opposition so I supose me and a few hundred more will be serving banning orders soon with this zero tolerence happy family prawn sandwich game. All aside brilliant result. Radio Lancs was singing the praises saying what an advert for league 2 football and also Mark (blind as a bat) Halsey commented on what a pace the game was played at. Come on ASFC/FA/Hyndburn mags dont ban over enthusastic SUPPORTERS.

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yawn......it was a bit of fun, we probs shouldn't have done it during the game but the passion of the moment and all that, hooligans your having a laugh

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Is that going to be a new chant now....:rofl38::rofl38::D

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Well said, that man - couldn't have put it better myself!

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i know about 4 lads who have bans (3 for liverpoool (fighting at millwall) and 1 everton (fighting at man united fans)).

thry go home and away, with 35,000 punters coming through the gates i guess its hard to enforce.

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New toilet rolls no problem, I draw the line at used toilet rolls. There can't be too much harm in a toilet roll if they let little puppies play with 'em on the telly !:D

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It would've all been fine (a la Halifax, Alty etc) had it not gone too far.
One of our fans got hurt & others including our goalkeeper narrowly escaped being hurt.
The right course of action was taken, and the person involved has apologised. End of as far as I see it.

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I don't know why someone with 2 boxes of till rolls was allowed inside the ground.

http://www.chindogu.com/chindogu/tp.jpg

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I don't understand why someone would want to take two boxes of till rolls into the ground unless it was with the premeditated idea of causing a nuisance.

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it's not about causing a nuisance it's about creating an effect and adding to the atmosphere, the best one was done at Halifax

Stanley Ultras :: View topic - Best of 2005 (Part 1)

absolutely cracking picture and made a big difference to the noise and atmosphere created that day.

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I don't see how throwing things makes a difference to the noise and atmosphere. And it also begs the question - where were the till rolls stolen from?

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Like its been said timing & product this time was definately not great - tho i see you used proper streamers - red & white then, tho looking at the pics i much prefer the big long flag full of witt as a better option to streamers - save those for when we are promoted after the match of course:D LOL

http://images.fotopic.net/y7xq9k.jpg

Stick to what we do best flags flags & more flags but importantly improvisation of chants - that seems to have more effect on the players as well as the fans:D

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Same place you stole your high horse from......get a life!

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Go on i'll be the one to ask then.....:o

Whats the result with Jase & the other fella as far as saturday & future matches are concerned ?? Despite what happened in the heat of the moment it will have an effect in the clayton end as general concern to the atmosphere as Jase is intrical part of the ultras.

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page after page of the little buggers :p

as far as what difference does it make to the noise and atmospher - none really. But neither do flags, nor team shirts, scarves, hats etc. It's about the colour and it's about the display.

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Mmmmmmmmmmm what can you say really,police control box right behind the accy fans camers each end, jase not for the first time & that other fellow picked out at randam could have been any one really,one thing i did think at the time though what if,we had just scored and having agood spell did that 5mins of fun stop us from adding another such was our dominances at the time:(

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i thinks its pretty pathetic it just shows how pathetic this country is getting and some people .people are getting murdered, raped and mugged, god forbid to have fun at a football match and throw some paper at the wrong time hang them .whats this country coming to for f~~k sake i cant believe it they got thrown out unbelievable .how can people get hurt from a till roll pretty pathetic and the naming of people is pretty pathetic too in fact this thread is pretty pathetic. how can anybody justify people getting ejected from a football ground that they have paid to get in for throwing a till roll pathetic .it wouldnt surprise me if the morcambe stewards had an agenda here..

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Just give them a big fine or put them in the stock,s they would not do it a gain then would they.

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Bananaman, I don't think you've quite emphasised just how pathetic it all is.

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im gonna retract a little teensy weensy bit about the till roll seeming somebody left the plastic middle in one purely by accident .............and hit a head but she'll be alright by tomorrow:p