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Morning /evening all...:)

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Afternoon KJ, trust all is well with you and yours

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Sure is mate,though found it really difficult to get out of bed for this.

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Afternoon/Morning KJ. Looked busy-ish round the FES. Quite a few from Rotherham, some of whom seem to be getting 'acquainted' with the police against the railings of the Oaklea :rolleyes:. Suspect the busiest people this afternoon may be the stewards.

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Not like you to not be at the FES OUTBACK????

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Hiya Dave...it does appear to me that you spend more time on here than having anything to do with Burnley... :)

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Big leagues not playing this weekend John :D

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Normally would have been KJ but unfortunately between nights so I am reduced to listening to 2BR and talking to folks on the 'puter

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Yea ,and I see you're lot have the day off as well... :D

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:p:p:p:p:p:p

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Seems Kaz Faz is also having a day off from 2BR, unless her voice has broken :)

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No commentary for me...just text and you pleasent chappies...

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Dour game so far according to Dan

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Kinda reflects the image I have of Rotherham as a place-gimey,dirty and depressing. That'll upset someone.Am I close to the mark?

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Would this link help KJ

2BR

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Sounds spot on to me. :D. Strange place as well, I remember last time I went it was raining bricks just outside the ground :(

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c'mon you reds - lets have a goal - settle some nerves

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afternoon all

No Toddy?

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Nah 'cause they can't broadcast outside UK.I had a system from a well known 'Cypriate' fella which worked pretty well for 2BR,but it came to me via Musicmatch which no longer does Radio,Don't anyone try to explain another procedure cause it took me 3 hours to learn how to turn the bloody thing on.. :(

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Bury and Whycum have risen above us...:(

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Beaming in from Hunmanby (look it up)

Sounds like Phil Edwards is doing us proud.
Very few other talking points..

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Afternoon Zero, believe Toddy picked up an injury in training prior to the match, which at least nullifies the fact that he cannot now score a late goal against us

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half time and scoreless - 2BR saying the formations in use are cancelling each team out. Looking for better in second half!

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Who is the summariser Ozzy. Still haven't caught his full name yet.

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http://lightsurf.xtra.co.nz/mmps/REC...&clampsize=320This is action froma NZ national league match (NZFootball Championship) between my team Hawkes Bay United trained by Johnathon Gould(ex Celtic and others, and his dad Bobby) and Manawatu (who I used to play for back in the 80s).The game was last night and me and another dozen fellas are trying to generate a similar atmosphere to what you guys get,and as a result I am 'horse' thismorning.It was a 0-0 result and the crowd was around 1000.Thats some of the 'much younger than me' guys doing the bizzo.We even had a drum!.Would love to get your mate ZERO to join in,as he lives nearby. And yes our main footy league is played in the summer.
http://lightsurf.xtra.co.nz/mmps/REC...&clampsize=320

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No keeper on the Bench ?

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Sorry mate no idea who the match summariser is

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Oh pooo Rotherham 1 up

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oh well another chance for a 0-0 gone

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Oh Pooh

Come on Stanley FIGHT BACK !!!

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$@%&@@!&^#$y8

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Another chance of home point gone.

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Not necessarily, I went for 1-1 draw for today

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See Stewie Fleetwood has scored another brace for FGR today

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Bloody 'ell c'mon Stanley, we are the home team for goodness sake - crowd announced as 1918 according to 2BR

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sERIOUSLY UNDER THE kOSH

CMON STANLEY

CMON BAVS

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Alan Nil the Chesterfield Assistant Manager is summariser for Radio Sheffield.

He says Stanley are "all over the place" and Coleman must change it soon

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McGivern On

Cmon Leighton

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Nil has said all afternoon that the Stanley players are not comfortable with the team's shape.

He says its that. Its not that our players are at fault.

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At least both radio stations seem to be watching the same game lol

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Second corner of the match.

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Well chums, time for me to set off for work, Will try and catch the score on Radio Lancs whilst on the way. Lets hope for a goal or two from Stanley

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We've had a charmed afternoon to limit it to 1-0.

Let's nick a point.

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Boco off. Whalley on!

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Joining you in the hopes of inspiring something .........

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Evil on for Mullers

??????????????????

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Evil Booked

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C'mon - our turn for a late late goal ......

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Or maybe not - hey ho, now for a shock at Hereford :)

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This playing 5-3-2 at home has got to stop.

Based on what we did with 4-4-2 we might have got something out of this game.

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Well tell me if I'm wrong but I thought we didn't play 5-3-2 at all today. :confused:

As usual Coleman's selection was questionable-today it was his choice of midfield that I couldn't understand. I really thought Stanley would get a good result today but once again it was a poor display at home. First half- pathetic. Second half was better but still not good enough. They had too much height and strength for us to deal with.

Evil wasn't even on for 5 minutes and still managed to get booked. Coley get rid of him he's crap.

Finally, i was disappointed Andy Todd didn't get a game.

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I haven't seen a performance that apathetic in a long time. Especially from the captain.
And once again we see how tactically retarded our management are.

Very disappointed indeed.

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Very, very poor tactics from Coleman today. We played a 3-5-2 going forward, dropping to 5-3-2 when we lost the ball, which was most of the time.

Why was Boco playing as a left wing-back??? It was no wonder that we conceded from a back post ball to an unmarked forward in our gaping left-back area. Richardson plays that role fairly well and he would have been preferable to Boco. Sometimes I really wonder if Coleman has any sense at all.
Rotheram were nothing special and we should have been in the game throughout. Unfortunately we never looked like doing much until McGivern came on. DSane was poor today and missed yet another one-on-one.

As a final note, I'm a long way from a McEvilly fan, but his booking was totally unfair today. Very poor decision from a fairly poor referee.

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Agreed.
Also horrible little demons inside my head keep nagging me that Paul Mullin, for all his sterling qualities, 100% effort, and magnificent service to the club, does not give us enough up front at this level. In my opinion, we need more pace and directness than he offers, someone with the ability to turn his man, get in on goal and threaten the goalkeeper, rather than exclusively playing with his back to goal. I know he wins most balls in the air, but where is the end product? I would like to see Coley start with McGivern, who impressed in the short time he had on the pitch today, alongside Evil up front. I think that combination would give us power, aggression(!) and directness, which we are lacking at the moment up front.
Am I allowed to say this, or will everyone throw their arms in the air in disgust?:)

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Have to agree with the last few posts - says it all really, i found out that stanley does have a midfield but thats all, it makes me laugh when he describes us as an attacking side, so not much evidence of that other than midfield play. Mike Pike - the pathetic banker ref was next to useless!!

Coley really needs to seriously re-think his attitude to the field of play & tactics especially during home matches as the pattern keeps repeating on how crap we are at home - regretfully:(

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Yes. Sorry until McGivern came on it was predominantly 3-5-2. I stuck my 5 in the wrong place. I was too preoccupied with how I was going to live that spectacle down this side of the Pennines.

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Spot on there,mullin been great over the years but maybe its time to try something different,mcgivern and dsane for me upfront 2 quick lads and probably stop the long ball that we see week in week out.

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Very poor showing today!
a couple of decent chances but as people have said already Rotherham were there for the taking, although they moved the ball from back to front with lightning speed and when they defended they did it in numbers. How many times did we lose possession today?:confused: Leighton Mcgivern looked sharp and did give us another dimension when he came on other than that yet another game to forget at the FES:(

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Not many I'd say, we didn't lose it we give it away :rolleyes:

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Rotherham fans verdicts:


http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fm...mid=2131424524

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So Coleman states his obvious desire to turn the F.E.S. into a "fortress" in the Observer, talk of reaching the play-offs from certain players??? The phrase " Delusions of Grandeur" springs to mind.

Totally abject performance today. Team selection and tactics played- once again mind boggling. The formation played today MAY work when we play away with the right personnel. But if we keep playing the same predictable formation at home it's no wonder so many sides are leaving with the points.

I can only assume that Webb was away on International duty this weekend and that Richardson was injured / suspended?? Boco certainly isn't the man to perform the role he was asked to play today.

I only hope that Coleman sits down and watches the video of that display and can pick out what went wrong today.Certain individuals are plainly not up to the task of what is required. Basic fundemental mistakes are costing us week in,week out. The number of times we lost possesion today was unreal.Instead of picking out the simple ball / pass, too many players gave the ball away cheaply.

Apparently Coleman has said that if certain players aren't up to what is being asked of them, he'll find replacements.Well, actions speak louder than words Coley. Wield the axe, cut out the "dead wood", work on the basics in training (i.e. how to defend and keep possesion) and work on the tactical side of things, ala team selection and formations,substitutions etc. Otherwise the more realistic end of season scenario will involve another "relegation dogfight".:(

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Really difficult to find any positives from the game today - the only word I can describe it with is BORING! For large parts of the game the lads looked like they hadn't played together before - what the hell was going on? We really missed Leam today, I presumed he must've been injured but it seems not, I asked him at half-time but he said he was fine but had been dropped completely and didn't really know why - I was gobsmacked!
On a positive note Leighton did make a difference when he came on but I did think it should've been Rommy who came off for him as maybe together Leighton, Roscoe & Mully could've found a way through and Rommy was knackered - only to be expected in his first full game after his injury.
Apparently Coley has been on the radio and said he wasn't unduly worried about today's performance - was he watching the same game??

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Neither. He was fit and ready to go, but Coleman decided to play a centre midfield player as a left wing-back. Figure that one out. :confused:

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For the second week in succession, I have found myself disconsolantly nursing my post-match pint in the Crown, surrounded by hordes of over-excited tykes. It's not a pleasant feeling and what makes it worse is that neither Rotherham nor Huddersfield were anything special. Others have spoken at length about shortcomings in team selection and tactics and I would agree with them, but I will just add one observation - once again, the support from the terraces was absolutely superb with the noise level seeming to actually increase after we'd gone one down. Mr Coleman, you asked for vocal backing from the fans to spur the team on to greater things - we have kept our part of the bargain, isn't it time you kept yours?

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League table now updated, now sat just above Morecambe in 12th place, dropped down from 10th, Bury are 2 places above and 1 point ahead

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Wynonie i couldnt agree more with that & a thought that sprung in my mind during the game:rolleyes:

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Trouble is that coley cant seem to take off the rose tinted glasses & thats his biggest problem:rolleyes:

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Quote from TM:-As a final note, I'm a long way from a McEvilly fan, but his booking was totally unfair today. Very poor decision from a fairly poor referee.


I'm not sure what view you had of the incident TM, however, from the angle I had (behind Clayton End goal) the Ref was I'm afraid right on this occasion, the first attempt by Evil to win the ball from the keeper was fair enough as said keeper did not have control of the ball, but when Evil turned round to come back up field he put his foot in again, this time the keeper had both hands on the ball............granted He didn't make contact but the Ref saw it as intent and was (in Law) correct to caution Him.

As for the rest of the Ref's display today, I entirely agree.........should have been at least 1 booking in the first 5 Min's for a Rotherham player (deliberate Handball), if not 2........foot up/studs showing on Proccy.......but I guess that set the tone for His dismal performance today :mad:.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

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my view was first half was crap, ref was worse, improved a bit second half, could not understand why the sub came on for dsane, to me it should have been Paul Mullin, then at least their would be 2 strikers with a bit of pace to go at em.:confused: still enjoyed me afternoon,result apart.;)

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From my view Evil stamped on his head and he is a dirty little idiot who should never play for stanley again. What a loser!!!!!!

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Agree with you up to there, UK, then I think Evil, with his morbid sense of humour, thought it would be funny to brush the keeper's head with his boot. Maybe it would have been, in the park with his mates. :(

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Well that throws yet another log on the fire, if He did 'brush' His head, then He was lucky not to have seen Red..........even on the Park with His mates!

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Yes, the goalie's reaction was one of disbelief; as is mine, to be honest.

Thought Cav's booking had "normal service has been resumed " written all over it, especially as it was the only time he was near him the whole of the second half. :o

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Wasn't a criticism of you. I actually thought we played 4-4-2 from the start as it didn't occur to me that Boco would play left wing back. I just thought that Richardson would naturally play there in a 3-5-2 rather than a central player so I assumed it was 4-4-2.

Just to agree with some of the other posts, Evil deserved to be booked in that inccident with the keeper. Yes the referee was rubbish but that was one call he did get right. At the end of the day Evil is still the same dirty, aggresive thug and clearly hasn't taken his punishment from the Peterborough game seriously. We would be better off without him.

Can't fault Mullin's effort and commitment but I also feel we should consider other options up front. McGivern scored a hat-trick for the reserves on Tuesday and looked dangerous yesterday- surely he should be given a start next week?

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I have to say that I didnt see the incident, so cant comment Im afraid!.........(note to self, must pay more attention :))

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Some good feedback from Rotherham fans:

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Did find their stewards warm and friendly though...not like some miserable ***** I've met on mi travels...
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Yeah agree Brinnie we were late in and they had locked up but bent over backward to help us to get in and escort us to the away end so top marks for them..........
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to be fair, you've got to take into account the fact that they've been out of the pro leagues for a long time, and it'll take a long time to build up their support base, which will give them the cash to improve.
i say good luck to em, and i hope they go from strenghth to strenghth, sooner them than some i could mention

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what can i say,
i miss the huddersfield game and the rotherham game and the team cant function.
Its as if their 12th man in the stands made all the difference (tounge in cheek!)

I am determined to get to Hereford so normal service of wins should presume.

1-0 at home to one of the teams expected to be in the play offs is dissapointing but not the end of the world.

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Isn't that what we need a bit of aggression? It's a man's game isn't it, let the opposition know you are there, rough them up a bit, that's what other teams tend to do to us. At least Evil was there when the goalie spilled the ball, Mully would have been standing about wondering what to do next. What other team has a striker who spends all the match with his back to the goal, never turns the opposition and cannot shoot? Mully has been a good servant but it's about time we had a change. Cav, Rocky and Mully first three names on the team sheet, in my opinion none of them are up to Football League standard. Coley said defensive changes would have to be made, well playing without a left back was certainly a change. I don't think Coley has any idea about defending. We have had a crap defence for years and nothing gets changed, the two weak links are still there and probably will be for ever. I think we are in for a long hard winter unless changes are made soon.

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[quote=JEFF;495632]Isn't that what we need a bit of aggression? It's a man's game isn't it, let the opposition know you are there, rough them up a bit, that's what other teams tend to do to us. At least Evil was there when the goalie spilled the ball, Mully would have been standing about wondering what to do next. What other team has a striker who spends all the match with his back to the goal, never turns the opposition and cannot shoot? Mully has been a good servant but it's about time we had a change. quote]

Yes Jeff we need more aggression upfront but he is not the right player to give us that. He was brought on for 5 minutes on Saturday and needlessly managed to get himself booked. Agression and going for a player in the context of football are seperate. He made no attempt to win the ball-he just had a little swipe at the keeper when he thought the ref wasn't looking. ONCE AGAIN he overstepped the mark and deserved to be cautioned. Since he came back I don't think he's done anything positive for the team. He was sent off for stamping on a player against Peterborough (clearly he hasn't learnt from that), close on a few occasions to being sent off again and more importantly he is yet to find the back of the net this season. You could say the lack of goals is due to him not featuring much but on the evidence that I have seen, I believe he doesn't deserve any more chances and we have other strikers so why not use them?

Now whatever you say about Mullin (most of which I agree with), you can't escape the fact that he is currently our top goalscorer this season-he is league 2 standard-he will continue to get in positons to score for us this season given the oppertunity by Coleman. Mulllin might not be as aggressive but he's scored more times this season than Evil and is a lot less likely to be sent off.
You say he would have stood around in that inccident- I agree with you! He is proffesional enough to know when a ball can be won or not. ie. not assualting the keeper who already has the ball in his 2 hands.

I do agree however that we have based to much of our play around Mullin in recent years and league defenders know our game and are dealing with him most of the time as we saw again on saturday. It is frustrating to watch but for me Evil is only going to create more problems than solve this one. We have other strikers so lets give them a start.

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Hope they've saved you a programme, pull out poster of your favourite No.11 on centre pages. :)

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Some fairly uncomplimentary things were said about the Stanley performance and ground on Radio Sheffield's footy phone in tonight.

Big Seth Bennett who no one will have missed from his "linesman's" vantage point in the Press Box only just conceded that Stanley were "better than a pub team" and one Rotherham female fan said she would never complain about their ground again.