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cashman 25-12-2007 23:51

Stanley ? weres it originate?
 
was asked this morning were did the name Stanley come from? have no idea,can see were names like united,city, athletic,etc etc originate but was buggared if i can figure how Stanley comes after accrington:confused: would be grateful if anyone knows.:)

WillowTheWhisp 25-12-2007 23:58

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The club was named after Stanley Street if I recall correctly.

mab 26-12-2007 00:13

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 507702)
was asked this morning were did the name Stanley come from? have no idea,can see were names like united,city, athletic,etc etc originate but was buggared if i can figure how Stanley comes after accrington:confused: would be grateful if anyone knows.:)

:not_ripe::) named after a street in Accrington were most of the players lived at the time,correct me if im wrong:)

cashman 26-12-2007 00:13

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 507704)
The club was named after Stanley Street if I recall correctly.

could be, but dont make much sense, cos Stanley St did not go anywhere near Peel Park:confused:

cashman 26-12-2007 00:14

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 507715)
:not_ripe::) named after a street in Accrington were most of the players lived at the time,correct me if im wrong:)

ah that sounds possible mab.:)perhaps Wynonie or Geoff know cos there old farts like me.lol

mab 26-12-2007 00:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 507717)
ah that sounds possible mab.:)

:) Accrington and stanley two different teams which merged to become Accrington Stanley:):):):)

cashman 26-12-2007 00:29

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 507718)
:) Accrington and stanley two different teams which merged to become Accrington Stanley:):):):)

thats interesting were ya get that info from? cos i would like to explain to the guy that asked.

Doug 26-12-2007 00:48

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If I remember my Stanley History it was named after the Stanley Working mens Club that was on Stanley Street...... They use to meet there if I recall rightly............

Doug 26-12-2007 00:49

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 507719)
thats interesting were ya get that info from? cos i would like to explain to the guy that asked.

Not sure on this but I think it might have been Accrington Villa and Accrington FC....

Diego 26-12-2007 04:05

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long time ago, there was Accrington FC, one of the founders of the Football League, and Stanley Villa at Accrington. it was called Stanley Villa cause they were based at Stanley Arms on Stanley Street.

then Stanley Villa got the name of the city with the end of Accrington FC, forming the first Accrington Stanley :)

i think thats it, i read that on the official website some time ago

Diego 26-12-2007 04:06

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Why Stanley

The original town team, Accrington FC were amongst the twelve founder members of the Football League in 1888, before resigning from the league after just five years. An existing team already existed at that time called Stanley Villa, named as such because they were based at the Stanley Arms on Stanley Street in the town. With the demise of Accrington FC, Stanley Villa took the town name to become Accrington Stanley, and existed in the lower divisions of the Football League until 1962, when the club famously resigned from the League midway through the season due to financial difficulties. Their last game was played on 2nd March, 1962. The club reformed again in 1968, and has progressed through the local county leagues to the Football Conference, and after three seasons in the Nationwide Conference made a historic return to the Football League.
whystanley

thats it ;)

WillowTheWhisp 26-12-2007 09:51

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And the Stanley Arms is so-called as it's in Stanley Street (as in Bold Street WMC etc) so in a round about way they are named after the street.

I seem to recall having read somewhere that most of the players lived in Stanley Street too, but maybe that's an urban myth.

Wynonie Harris 26-12-2007 09:54

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Diego's got it right, Mr C. The club didn't play at Peel Park until 1919.

WillowTheWhisp 26-12-2007 09:56

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Where was the ground before then Wynonie?

cashman 26-12-2007 09:56

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many thanks to those that helped n special thanks to deigo for the link, happy new year mate.:)

WillowTheWhisp 26-12-2007 10:05

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That's what I love about AccyWeb. Eventually we find out all kinds of things and even if we have vague ideas about something somebody else will come along with the full details. It's brilliant isn't it?

Wynonie Harris 26-12-2007 10:17

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 507744)
Where was the ground before then Wynonie?

Accrington FC played at the Cricket Ground when they were in the league. I think Stanley Villa just played their games on local playing fields, being an amateur lads' club. When the two clubs merged, they played at Moorhead Park, where the school is now. For one season (1897-8), they moved to Bell's Temperance Ground in Woodnook which was at the junction of Belfield Road and Nuttall Street, before moving back to Moorfield. They eventually moved to Peel Park in 1919, having bought the ground for £2,500.

garinda 26-12-2007 15:31

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As a lot of streets were named after someone, except for Pansy Street (:D), was Stanley Street named after a particular person?

WillowTheWhisp 26-12-2007 15:32

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With a name like Stanley I'd be surprised if it wasn't. I wonder if anyone knows who.

MikeA 26-12-2007 15:43

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Stanley is the family name of the Earls of Derby who own half Lancashire.

melonhigh 26-12-2007 16:37

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 507745)
many thanks to those that helped n special thanks to deigo for the link, happy new year mate.:)

Amazing, isn't it? Takes a guy from SOUTH AMERICA to answer a question about ACCRINGTON STANLEY!!!

Haz66 26-12-2007 17:38

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While we`re on the subject of where names originate, i`ve always been curious as to where "On Stanley On" originates, i know its part of a peom, but how did it become a chant and slogon of the club ?, i know this may be a tough one to answer as it will no doubt have originated way back when, but you never know someone out there may know the answer.

Stanleymad 26-12-2007 17:51

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 507722)
If I remember my Stanley History it was named after the Stanley Working mens Club that was on Stanley Street...... They use to meet there if I recall rightly............

Yes thats right, hence Stanley villa before Accrington Stanley:D

maccawozzagod 26-12-2007 17:58

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Originally Posted by Haz66 (Post 507943)
While we`re on the subject of where names originate, i`ve always been curious as to where "On Stanley On" originates, i know its part of a peom, but how did it become a chant and slogon of the club ?, i know this may be a tough one to answer as it will no doubt have originated way back when, but you never know someone out there may know the answer.

it was a song sung by the Accrington Male Voice Choir in 1955;

On Stanley Onwards
'til we get the ball into the net
its On Stanley On

Maybe their was already a 'saying' as such but that is where it came to popular prominence. It should never be forgotten because it is another Stanley Uniquey

melonhigh 26-12-2007 17:59

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Originally Posted by Haz66 (Post 507943)
While we`re on the subject of where names originate, i`ve always been curious as to where "On Stanley On" originates, i know its part of a peom, but how did it become a chant and slogon of the club ?, i know this may be a tough one to answer as it will no doubt have originated way back when, but you never know someone out there may know the answer.

This has topic has cropped up a number of times. Try this:
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ome-34051.html

Stanleymad 26-12-2007 18:01

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 507956)
Maybe their was already a 'saying' as such but that is where it came to popular prominence. It should never be forgotten because it is another Stanley Uniquey

A bit like celtc cross's cart on & stanleys back of the noughties:rolleyes::D

maccawozzagod 26-12-2007 18:04

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lol - can you imagine in forty years time that the Stanley fans will be on the holographic version of a messageboard wondering where Cart On Stanley originated from and why Old man Coleman still won't drop Rocky!!!

Oggy 26-12-2007 18:05

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Originally Posted by melonhigh (Post 507922)
Amazing, isn't it? Takes a guy from SOUTH AMERICA to answer a question about ACCRINGTON STANLEY!!!

They know their football, over there. ;)

Anyway, this thread is ideal for plugging next year's exhibition (July/Aug 2008). The factual stuff should all be there, but even better, stories will be there from Stanley fans who have followed the Club's fortunes over the years.

Anybody who has yet to read the "sticky" thread at the top of the messageboard, please do so, it's not too late to volunteer. And if you have a story that involves Stanley please forward it, or get in touch with any of the volunteers (I'm one, btw). The profile of the exhibition is to be raised during January, please keep an eye out for further information.

"On Stanley On" ? We'll know by July, it'll be worth the wait. ;) :) (Such a slow typer you now already know, but there will be more, much more.)

Stanleymad 26-12-2007 18:09

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 507963)
lol - can you imagine in forty years time that the Stanley fans will be on the holographic version of a messageboard wondering where Cart On Stanley originated from and why Old man Coleman still won't drop Rocky!!!

:rofl38: heheheheheehe now thats scary but no doubt will happen:D tho i dont suppose our childrens children will have a copy passed down & archives of this forum LOL:rofl38:

Stanleymad 26-12-2007 18:12

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Found a great website devoted to the early history pre 1962 [as would u beleive it the fishy site have deleted the one they had & only include '62 onwards or aka Eric's history :rolleyes:]

Answers the question anyways & other interesting bits of our history:D

Accrington Stanley History

K.S.H 26-12-2007 18:24

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 507977)
Found a great website devoted to the early history pre 1962

Thats Gregor's site, he's a member onhere but aint seen him on for a while


Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 507977)
as would u beleive it the fishy site have deleted the one they had & only include '62 onwards or aka Eric's history :rolleyes:

Haven't I told you something about that before :rolleyes: :D

Stanleymad 26-12-2007 18:27

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 507981)
Thats Gregor's site, he's a member onhere but aint seen him on for a while

AHHHHH, thats brill, be interesting & useful for the exhibition if he is interested:D

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 507981)
Haven't I told you something about that before :rolleyes: :D

Errrrrrrrrr NOPE:rolleyes:

K.S.H 26-12-2007 18:35

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This is his profile, PM him, he's very helpful

Stanleymad 26-12-2007 18:37

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 507990)
This is his profile, PM him, he's very helpful

Thanks KSH will do:D

Btw yeh u did say but i didnt relate it to that sorry:o:o:o

Greger 28-12-2007 22:53

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I'm still around KSH, but not being able to go the FES, I don't have much to offer on recent issues, although I'll volounteer this one: For the manager not to speak to the local paper is unprofessional, no matter how unprofessional he thinks they've been. (Sorry wrong thread).:)
But I'm sure he'll find a new forward soon. He seems to do that when the team concedes too many.;)

I don't think Stanley merged with anyone. Accrington FC just ceased to be, and Stanley took over as the premier club in town. They were already Accrington Stanley by then. The clubs even shared Moorhead for a season, but never played each other.

Mancie 29-12-2007 00:31

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Along time ago I was having a quite pint in the "Fartin Donkey" (now called the Woodnook ) when an old man told me the story of Accrington Stanley.. he said the club was named after a one legged window cleaner called Stanley Arkwright who played as a striker for Peel Park..(good in the air apparently)
Stanley Arkwright retired in the late 1800's and was Landlord of the "Hop 'n' Bucket" pub (renamed the Queens) ...amazing but true!

mickmc 29-12-2007 09:01

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And just to tidy up the loose ends of the history lesson,

The Stanley Arm's shouldn't be confused with the working men's club that used to be on Stanley St - its original name was The Dyers & Bleachers WMC (a great reminder of the cotton mills which surrounded these streets)

In fact the Stanley Arms was slightly further up Stanley St, just across the corner from the WMC across Washington St - it is now the building used by the Accrington Detachment of the Army Cadet Force

The Dyers & Finishers WMC ceased trading and that building is now "The Stanley Street Social Club, and is a private members club

lancsdave 29-12-2007 09:27

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Originally Posted by mickmc (Post 509080)
And just to tidy up the loose ends of the history lesson,

The Stanley Arm's shouldn't be confused with the working men's club that used to be on Stanley St - its original name was The Dyers & Bleachers WMC (a great reminder of the cotton mills which surrounded these streets)

In fact the Stanley Arms was slightly further up Stanley St, just across the corner from the WMC across Washington St - it is now the building used by the Accrington Detachment of the Army Cadet Force

The Dyers & Finishers WMC ceased trading and that building is now "The Stanley Street Social Club, and is a private members club

Ironically, The Stanley is the current base of Accrington Clarets.

WillowTheWhisp 29-12-2007 10:13

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Oooh I remember my Dad referring to 't'Dyers'

Diego 03-01-2008 02:19

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Originally Posted by melonhigh (Post 507922)
Amazing, isn't it? Takes a guy from SOUTH AMERICA to answer a question about ACCRINGTON STANLEY!!!

i think that was a compliment??

melonhigh 03-01-2008 12:09

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Originally Posted by Diego (Post 511907)
i think that was a compliment??

Certainly was, Diego. Happy New Year.

Diego 03-01-2008 15:25

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Originally Posted by melonhigh (Post 511965)
Certainly was, Diego. Happy New Year.

thanks :) happy new year for u too


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