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Postponed for waterlogged pitch

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stanley??....

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Thats the one

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Guess it will probably be re-arranged for next Saturday as neither team have a game

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Poor do! What the hell has happened since yesterday's "no problems report"? No further rain, that's for sure. Is it a case of an over-fussy referee? What about the pitch at our game at Posh? Just feel terribly sorry for all the Brentford fans as well as fuming for the rest of us.

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Not just since yesterday, the pitch was inspected at 10am this morning.

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Who the f**k is this pillock of a ref, anyway? Same one who called off the snowy one a couple of seasons ago?

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First season on the league if it's the one listed on the Football League appointments. A.Haines

Not sure if you had him in the conference

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Oh God, another from the 'elf and safety brigade no doubt.

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Has anyone got a method of remotely turning off Kiwi John's alarm. Pretty sure he gets up in the middle of the night to tune in.

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~@#'"$^%

Poorly handled...
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Feel sorry for the Brentford fans who have travelled.

No game should be called off this close to kick off!

Disgraceful!

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Can sympathise with them. We travelled to Reading last season and the game was called off at 2.30ish. Mind you it was still raining then.

Games like today where you get a football league official saying the pitch is fit at 10am and then the match official turning up later and saying it's off is bloody annoying for all concerned.

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Brentford fans who were on the ground at the second inspection say there was never any chance of the game going ahead and think Stanley pressurised the first inspection ref. They also say our officials were abusing the match referee as he made his decision. They want Fraser Eagle to lay free coaches on for the re-arranged fixture. Whatever the truth of the matter, it's yet another absolute cock-up.

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I can guess who was at the front of the queue as I have already told somebody in a pm earlier :D

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Not quite, 3:45 AM to be precise....bit of a bummer..I shall go back to bed for a couple of hours more zzzzzs.

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Only one guess allowed.

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Was talking at work yesterday of coming over for this but decided against because I was doubtful it would go ahead.

With a difficult round trip of 170 miles (roughly 4.5 hours) just as well wasn't it?

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"Sounds like Accrington need to learn that if they want to play in the big professional league they need to act like a bigger professional club.


Pesuading a local ref to keep a match on when it seems it was so obviously not fit for purpose is amateurish in the extreme.

I suspect AS is quietly pleased we are not playing on a bog and being brought down to their level with all the risks of injuries as well."
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Feel sorry for both sets of fans with game called off so late. But went I got there and saw pitch it didn't look fit to play with big grass less penalty area at town end and sidelines in same shape.

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I was puzzled this morning when they kept saying there were no problems but had called a football league official in for an early inspection. I thought that was totally contradictory :confused:

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Average speed 38 mph !! was you coming on your bike ?...:D

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Sod's law... Gretna 2 up and you are missing the moment :D

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Absolutely pathetic that the decision to call the game off came at 2:00p.m. Was dropped off outside the Crown at 2:45p.m. and thought it looked a bit quiet. Was greeted by some Brentford fans who told me the news that the game was called off at 2. They sounded totally P****d off and who could blame them !!

Whoever made the decision to leave it so late to make the call to postpone the game should hang their head in shame. After the week of weather we've had, surely it only takes a modicum of common sense to make an educated decision. Obviously whoever did make the decision doesn't have any.:(

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Did you see the state of the pitch ? looked alright at the Clayton end and in the centre but the Accy end wasn't good, surprised they said it was Ok at 10AM

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Yes its dreadful isn't it?

I have to negotiate York Harrogate the Keighley area Crosshills (roadworks usually) and Colne en route.

Going back is a bit quicker normally get home at 1910 hours.

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Is it not quicker over Blubberhouses down the A59 from Harrogate?

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I agree, very:

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I took that route to Bradford today and those Crosshills roadworks are a real pain. :(

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Could be. Just seems further.

The Brentford fans are so angry that one of them is suggesting on their forum that they crash Eric Whalley's EW Cartons website with complaints on Monday!!

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Totally agree with you. I went to watch Middlesbrough (my family's team) at Blackburn today and it was announced on the PA system that Stanley had been called off and that lots of the Brentford fans were going to come into the away section with us at Ewood. A lot did show up and the ones I spoke to seemed to have enjoyed their day out despite the different match.

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I think they might be wasting their time. Take a look at the animal bedding and see whats new for November 2000 :D:D:D

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From what was said on Radio Lancs by JC - The club phoned the FA who appointed a referee to inspect the pitch at 10 am and passed it fit. This joker turns up at 1200 and waits 1 hour and 45 mins before calling the game off. Please do not blame the club for this cock up - it is purely the match referees fault. An FA appointed ref said it was OK this morning - and as others have pointed out, there was no rain up until the second inspection yet he was worried about a patch from the centre circle to the edge of the box at the Accy end. Brentford FC BTW wanted to play the game but to no avail. Hope this clears up one or two complaints

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Some Brentford fans are keeping a sense of proportion:-


"Looking at those photos reminds me of what all football pitches used to look like at this time of year back in the 1970s. I'm coming round to the view of the early local ref!"
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"I'm no professional - you'd be able to work that out if you saw me too http://www.griffinpark.org/forums/im...lies/smile.gif - but I'm thinking 'that doesn't look THAT bad' too - couldn't they just have dumped a load of sand on it a la Stamofrd Bridge a couple of seasons back, the rest of the pitch looks grand."


Most of the others seem to be saying that no games should ever start on a muddy pitch! What's the world coming to?
I have every sympathy with all those who travelled today, though.
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It looked a bit muddy in small patches but I've seen far worse pitches declared playable in the Scottish Premier League and in the Champions league and UEFA Cup. The game today could easily have gone ahead without significant problems. Very poor decision to call the game off, nearly as bad as mine to go to Ewood today but after a 300 mile round trip I thought I would take in a game. Hopefully the trip to Inverness tomorrow will be better!!

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There seems to be a general conscensus that the inspection at 10am was actually the correct one. Maybe that was called wrong and unfair pressure put on the match official to play the game because it would let so many people down at such late notice, especially as the away fans had travelled a long distance :rolleyes:

Seems to be a fair mix of people who stood on the edge of the pitch and decided the pitch was fit or unfit, how many actually inspected it ? ( How many of you have actually have the expertise to inspect a pitch to decide if a game should go ahead ? :D ) There seems to be a lot more people saying it should never have been on than those who say it should.

If the comments from the Brentford fans are true that they spoke to the groundsman who said it was 65% ok then thats a hell of a lot of pitch that wasn't ok.

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if todays game was unplayable that means the peterborough game should be void:D because that was a swimming pool and todays referee would have called it off so where is the consistancy.. still think todays game should have been played.ive seen worse pitches in the english premier league..:enough::enough::enough:

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I agree, the peterborough pitch was far worse and it was deemed playable and I've been at many games where the pitches have been far worse than that. There did not appear to be any surface water but there was a few muddy patches. There was no rain forecast for the afternoon so it couldn't have got any worse. I have been at games where the pitch was so wet that low shots were being stopped in puddles and that was in higher leagues than today. How could the pitch have been playable earlier but unplayable at 1.30 when there was no rain nor likelyhood of rain during the game?

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I've just looked again at the Peterbrough match and I would say it may have been close to being abandoned but from what I can tell from the first half pictures it looked very playable.If there's a lot of surface water all over the pitch then you would see the spray when the ball went along the ground but it's not obvious on those pictures.

As for consistency, look at the number of people disagreeing if the game should have been played or not. It's not an exact science and is down to human decision. I know you won't beleive me but referees are actually as human as everyone else :D

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i aint no expertise in these things dave, but have been watching football many years, gotta say i have seen far worse than that played on.:confused: and that was also raining when the matches kicked off. agree with cmonstanley theres no consistency, which is no big deal to me i travelled half a mile. its the away fans that really suffer with these late call offs.:(

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what do we know were only football fans. good to talk to you today anyway good luck for tomorrow ill be watching on satan tv..:mosher::mosher::mosher:

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whats happening to this world people are agreeing with me its just not cricket:D:D:D:Dreferees human:confused:



:D:D:D anyway wonder when the match is going to be played.makes a change us wingin about our performance....

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From the pictures I have seen the pitch looked flat which to anyone on the touchline or ( further back in the bar :p ) seems no problem. But I also think from looking at the pictures that once the game started that channel would have been a quagmire. You can see that just by walking on it the footprints have sunk in to the mud. I also don't doubt that we have all seen football played on far worse pitches in the olden days, but this is modern day football. Players are much more protected ( for better or worse ) and it's only my personal opinion but I think that channel of mud would have turned in to a quagmire and a serious injury could have occurred.

If anybody is wondering which pictures I'm referring to, it's the ones on the Brentford forum

Accrington v Brentford MATCH POSTPONED - Page 8 - Griffin Park Grapevine

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the point i am trying to make is if there is an early inspection, by a ref,then no rain before the kick off, its ludicrous to have another inspection. the ref who inspected should stand or fall by that descision, if hes cocked up then thats human, people will always debate after the event.

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The match referee is the one who has to take the ultimate responsibility. I am a bit puzzled from Ozzy's earlier comments about the time taken by the match referee to call the game off. The first thing a referee does when he gets to the ground is to inspect the pitch. I'd be interested to find out if he did and on what basis he didn't call the game off then.

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thats what i'm on about, if it WAS an F.A. appointed ref who inspected at 10-00, then there was no rain, what possible reason is there for a later inspection, i say again ludicrous.

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It's not that unusual. I remember it happening a few times over the years where a local referee (FA registered of course) pronounced the pitch fit to play on, but then the game was called off once the match referee arrived.
As Dave says, it is the match referee that makes the ultimate decision. The real question should be, why didn't he call it off when he first arrived at the ground and saw the pitch? One reason could be that he didn't inspect the pitch until well after he arrived.

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Listed below are a couple of quotes from Brentford fans who travelled up for the game... Their M/B has lit up like a christmas tree, i take it they dont like what happened. I like the quote "amaturish" !!!

I think weve been found out :D

Dont suppose EW is jumping thru hoops we have lost good revenue and if i remember correctly we are liable for the Brentfords teams travel and accomodation for the re-arranged match :eek::eek::eek::eek:

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For Accrington to convince people to make the trip by telling them that the game was definitely on reeks of a stitch up - just so they didn't lose out IF, by some slim chance, the game did go ahead.

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I know they're here on merit but amatuerish Accrington simply shouldn't be in the league instead of the likes of Exeter and Oxford. You can't run football clubs like this and you can't treat fans like we were treated yesterday

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Fair play to the vast numbers that made the effort, only to be screwed by a non league team with a non league ground.

Accrington should be ashamed of themselves.
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I don't see how the club can take any blame for yesterday.

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We had one last season, passed fit by a local ref then postponed by the match ref. Like you say TM it's not that uncommon.

Still can't figure out the time delay. The only thing I can think of is that the referee looked at that pitch and said the bad parts were not playable. Proffesional pride means groundsman do not like being beat by the weather and it's possible he said 'give me an hour and I'll sort it', if there is any chance he will get his hour, but it wasn't enough. I'm only guessing from past experience though :)

I bet the groundsman sleeps today, he must be absolutely knackered from the last few days efforts to get it played.

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I came from cleethorpes ,these things happen though ,i was gutted,feel for the brentford fans,i got talking to someone who said they had come from hampshire to see their first accrington game!although they was also doing other things in the area so they said it wasn't too bad,i bet they were cheesed off though .

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i agree it aint the club, to me its the F.A. if they appoint a ref to do an early inspection n there is no more rain,that should be it-end of, could save a lot of grief from travelling fans. its not rocket science. they are the "powers that be" surely thats not beyond em, or do the fans not count?

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Cashy it's actually the Football League not the FA in this instance. The difference being the FL is the worst of 2 evils :D

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Im not 100% sure on this, however I think you will find that the F.A./F.L. did not appoint a Ref do the 10am inspection, rather it was Stanley themselves. To the best of my knowledge the final decision rests with the Appointed Official.

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i do the route from here to Harrogate down the A59 on a regular basis with my parents living in Harrogate and you are looking at an hour from there to Stanley (depending on how you drive :D)

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this is what i was basing my comments on, U.K. n Dave.:confused: but if its a toss up between the F.A. n F.L. they are both football authorities n should work together for the good of the game.:rolleyes:

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I think there's more chance of a Stanley v Burnley Champions League final :rolleyes:

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in instances like this the Match Official should be forced to travel earlier if there is a doubt over the condition of the pitch. There is no point having a first inspection by another referee if he can be overruled.

Unless there is increasing bad weather a game should be called no later than 10am. To a degree fans could put up with part travelling and then turning around, but for a small club like Stanley to have to pay for Brentfords unncessary travelling costs is absurd.

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news was that the ref actually offered the game to be played to both managers, coley agreed to play but their manager didnt, backed up by his comments on bbc site saying pitch was unplayable when he arrived

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Coleman didn't say that yesterday. When Adam Cottager said that Brentford were as keen to play as we were, Coleman agreed with him. He said it was all down to the referee.

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if the differant refs cant form a general consensus, that is exactly what should happen.IMHO.

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just seen wigan pitch close up and yesterday wasnt any worse than that...

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yeh but perhaps the thought was we aint gonna tell 1000s of scousers theres no match?:D

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Don't be silly Wigans pitch was in a far better condition than ours.

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silly no thats not me:D but seriously when they looked close up to certain parts of the pitch it looked just as muddy as it was at stanley yesterday...:)anyway thats history now anybody got any idea when its being played naxt saturday would be logical but its the football league we are talking about and brentford are supposed to be going on their hols:rolleyes:

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I know that when the match is replayed the club are looking at discounted admission for all and suggestion of free programme for season ticket holders

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My comments were based on the fact that the match referee arrived at the ground about 1200 - I know because so did I and followed all 3 officials into the ground - what I am asking is why did it take him one and three quarter hours to decide that the pitch was not fit to play on? Secondly Pete I have to correct you on a previous statement, the club phoned the FA/FL whichever and asked for a referee to come to inspect the pitch, this is what was broadcasted on BBC Radio Lancs. The FA/FL asked for a referee (not Stanley or any club official) to come to the ground in the morning. This as we know was a complete waste of time. I fell sorry for every fan either Stanley or Brentford who travelled any distance to watch the match, but it really is not the clubs fault. This one can be laid firmly at the FA/FL door.

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Having just got back from Wigan's match- the pitch there always cuts up when its wet, but I would say it was in better condition than ours. The whole pitch at the FES needs levelling and proper drainage put in or proper covers put on - not the hessian covers we have now. But that is for another time and place when we are either a) at a new ground or b) when we have extra revenue.

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As the Brentford Fanzine Editor who treasured Stanley as my 'second' club (when you were non league) after watching you eighteen times at home and travelling away to the likes of Burscough, Ashton, Vauxhall Motors, Halifax and Aldershot (I used to work in Manchester midweek) I was gutted about yesterday.

I travelled the 500 mile round trip and stayed overnight as did a lot of the 900 or so Bees that were about to descend on Stanley for the afternoon.

All I can say (and it pains me to say it) that I feel really let down by Accy as a club who must have known that the game wouldn't have even had a chance of being on Friday lunchtime - lets face it, there hadn't been further rain and the pitch at 1.45pm yesterday was un-playable..
Why as a club you couldn't have made the decision on Friday heaven knows..at 2pm before setting off your girl on the switchboard said that unless it rained and rained over night, the game would definetly be on..

Our coach and Physio went to the ground at 11am and the ball wouldn't even roll on the surface, there were no lines on the stand side of the ground so you can't really blame the referee..

The poster who said that our manager didn't want it on is talking rubbish - I stayed with him on the Friday night and Brentford were desperate to play coming into the game on a tremendous run..

Both clubs supporters lost out - Accy from 900 x £13 from us, and all the londoners who spent hundreds on train tickets, petrol and hotel stop overs..

Shame as I wanted this one big time, especially as I was possibly the only traveller there who'd actually been to Stanley before..can't see many of making the trip now on a Tuesday night..

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or get a sponsorship deal off coating application up huncoat they make waterproof breathable covers they would be alright...

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Why? What's the thinking behind that? :confused:

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Sorry OO, I wasn't questioning if what you said was correct, was asking the same as you, what did the referee do for over an hour ?

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eat his bacon sarnies:D

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I'm with TM on this, why?
It's not like last time when it was abandoned and we paid full price to watch 45mins of joke football on a mud bath, this game was postponed before we had paid our money not leaving most out of pocket. If the club are thinking of doing it as a good will gesture who am I to put it down but it seems a bit strange if it does happen.

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IMHO if any discounts are given it should be to the Brentford fans, it's them who lost out with the distance they travelled etc, we didn't really loose anything did we - apart from a few quid for the :thepint: :thepint:

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I think the discount is seen as a goodwill gesture by the club and they are thinking of the Brentford fans who travelled. Ther reason I believe they will offer it to all who attend is so there are no hard feelings for home fans either... don't forget we have many stanley fans who travel a fair distance too!

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came up from liverpool with the kopite lad who is slowly becoming an Accy fan.

I was gutted to see it called off, the clayton end looked fine.
Roscoe said the pitch was alright and he had played on worse pitches.

I had mixed feelings about the behaviour of the Brentford fans to the referee. I thought some where out of order while others made a very valid point.

Ended up going to Blackburn vs Boro in the away end, and spent the half time break and the second half chatting to the Brentford fans who on the whole where in good spirits and for a small proportion of the second half outsang the Boro and Blackburn supporters.

At least my 2 man plus 20 odd boro fans rendition of 'your just a small town near Accy' in my stanley shirt wound up a few of the blackburn fans.

The match itself was a shocker, makes you realise what good football Stanley play at times.

The ref was an amature - that pitch would have been fine. The Stockport pitch was alot worse IMO. I hope we start kicking up a stink about pitch conditions, our style of play requires a good surface.

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I won't take a programme, free or otherwise while the 2br challenge is included. Some things, well, you just have to draw a line in the sand.

I'd take a cheeseburger, though. :)

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the club had stated on friday somewhere (paper I think) that they were looking at ways of reducing matchday costs for the fans for next season. Maybe this is a way of looking at what might work and what might not. Don't forget that any discounts on tickets are met with aberration by the season ticket holders!

keep at it Stanley,

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Hereford's Bulls News twisting the facts again;-

"Brentford boss Andy Scott has blasted Accrington after yesterday's match at the Fraser Eagle Stadium was called off just 90 minutes before kick-off. Referee Andy Haines had no hesitation in calling the game off when he arrived."

Now just when did he arrive?

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I thought I would let you know of a lengthy conversation I have had with a Football League official today re the called off match.

1) They are NOT aware of any inspection by a local referee at 10am, and stated that they would not sanction a local referee inspecting the pitch without their knowledge. Where there have been bad weather conditions it is down to the home club to notify the FL the day before, in which case the FL will allow the match referee to stay in a hotel the evening before the match and give an early inspection the following morning.

2)This was apparently done by other clubs, and a number of those matches(he quoted the Macclesfield match as a case in point) which was cancelled.

3)He confirmed BFC have made a complaint this morning which is now being investigated.

4)He has urged that all supporters, particularly those who travelled do complain by Email if possible, as it would strengthen the complaint against Accrington.

5) He confirmed they are taking this matter seriously, and I suggested that at the very least BFC should be compensated for their costs and some form of deal ie. reduced ticket prices or whatever should be given to us Supporters. Please do Email them asap.

I hope this info is useful to you.

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from brentford forum

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BIAS complains to Football League over Stanley postponement
21st January 2008


We have today sent the below open letter to the Football League with regard to the late call-off of Saturday's game at Accrington Stanley.

Dear Sir/Madam

On behalf of all Brentford fans who travelled to Accrington for the aborted game on Saturday 19th January, Brentford's Independent Association of Supporters (BIAS) calls on the Football League to investigate the circumstances surrounding the late call off of the game, and specifically the inspection of the pitch that took place on the morning of the game where the pitch was passed as playable when later declared unplayable by the match officials.

We would like the Football League to respond to the following points:

• Confirmation that it was a nominated Football League official that passed the pitch as playable at 10am on Saturday
• Publication by the Football League of any report filed by that official following the 10am inspection
• Publication by the Football League of any report filed by the match day official that resulted in the match being called off
• Clarification of the Football Leagues policies and procedures regarding to pitch inspections and the criteria for the calling off of a match.
• Clarification of any schemes run by the Football League to protect travelling fans from financial losses resulting from match cancellation.

As you can see from the attached photographs [see below], taken at approx 13.30 on Saturday, it was clear that the pitch was unplayable, and we have had confirmation that it had seen no deterioration from the initial inspection that morning. Accrington advised Brentford officials on Friday confirming that the pitch was playable and that the game would go ahead when with hindsight this was clearly not the case.

We call on the Football League to investigate the initial inspection, and the actions of both Accrington Stanley and the Football League officials that performed the inspection, and make public the findings of their investigation. We also request that the Football League review their processes surrounding pitch inspections to avoid a repeat of what happened on Saturday.

We would be grateful if you could respond as soon as possible with your findings and any comments by email and by letter to the above address.

Please note that this communication, and any response from yourselves, will be published on the BIAS web-site.

Yours Sincerely

Phil Marchant
Chair
Brentford Independent Association of Supporters

More info:
http://www.bias.org.uk/images/nav/arrow.gifPictures of the Accrington Stanley pitch (courtesy of Farnham Bee & the GPG)
http://www.bias.org.uk/images/nav/arrow.gifBIAS letter to Accrington Stanley

Some good points in there.

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Hello. I received an e-mail from Rob Heys the day before the game saying that you "are not expecting any problems".

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I think the footprints being deep in the penalty area can mean problems for a great proportion of players and this was just after the postponement.

I also rang ASFC at 1.29PM, minutes before the game was called off, and they said the game was on. I passed the phone to the people I was travelling with so their minds could be put at ease. I rang at 1.39PM to be told that they were awaiting confirmation and was told it was off at 1.45PM.

To be told three different things in a short space of time in my view isn't good enough.

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No it isn't, but it's lower league football in winter. These things happen.

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[quote=darrener;5202211) They are NOT aware of any inspection by a local referee at 10am, and stated that they would not sanction a local referee inspecting the pitch without their knowledge.[/quote]
This is what has been said by our people in the know, I think we could be in trouble because it looks like we got some local ref in off our own bat.

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Blimey what a commotion over sods law!!! ASFC cant control the darn weather, our manager/chairman/directors/groundsmen DO not have the final say the REF in charge does, so how we can be blamed i dont know. The ref in charge made the final desicion, ASFC did their best to their knowledge, the got a local ref to look at the pitch whom said to them it was fine & they went off that advice till the ref turned up, the rain held off & weather was fine, what else could be done ??? If ASFC called it off on suspect it may not pass the refs inspection to later find the ref would of passed it fit to play on - people would of moaned then!!! Chicken & egg situ! Unfortunately inconsistancy between FL ref's means also these things happen before matches too, personally i think Wigans was bad as ours in places but went ahead, as did Peterboroughs match we had last week was a swimming pool & was still lashing down - but thats the way the cookie crumbles im afraid.

Personally i think its a cheek to complain when a fair few of your [Brentfords] fans made a right big rowdy performance outside the ASFC office & a ref scared witless probably, but you dont think of the Police bill that you cost us in that process of that behaviour, understandably annoyed but there was the other Brentford fans that maintained their control of temper & behaved appropiately with our management team by taking offers of a trip to Blackburn or in the clubhouse/crown.

As much as its cost you its cost us as a club too financially & it seems that our chairman is in formal process of sorting out a comprimising solution for the abandoned game as best he can, so find the comments made a bit unfair IMHO.

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Can't see what a complaint to the Football League would achieve anyway. As an organisation they taught the Child Support Agency the meaning of efficiency :)

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I cant see what it has to achieve either - except welcome to league 2:D

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Ha ha ha ha!

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it will acheive nothing,apart from demonstrating to those who do not know, what whinging tarts southerners are, its been a bitch for stanley fans also,some who travelled further even than these southern jesses.:rolleyes:

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Come on, fellas! It's not crown green bowling you know. Don't be so bloody soft!

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:rofl38: Cashy & redraine :D:D hehehehe well i wasnt going to say that but you both did hehehehehee, never seen so much whining in my life:rolleyes:

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Spug says: Thanks to the Great British weather yesterday delaying my train for an hour and 50 mins under virgins own rules I can claim my travel expenses back. My travel time down for the match was 5hrs and 45 mins going back was 7hrs and 45mins.

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Now we know, your making it all up:D:D