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:( anyone been on the bee's forum?? there not a happy lot of bee's! they want action by the FA over the postponment of sat's game even sent a letter to the FA :eek:

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Bees? Unhappy? Oh dear, what a pity, never mind! :tongueout

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Stinging critiscism :)

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According to the club, the FA appointed the referee who turned up to make the 10am pitch inspection, so I don't reckon they've got a leg to stand on!

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To be more accurate, Brentford has made representations to the Football League about the way it was handled. BFC fully agrees that it was right to postpone. What is at issue is the way ASFC repeatedly told BFC and its supporters during the week that the game was not at risk, the apparent pitch inspection at 10am and generally the way that ASFC was happy to play fast and loose with Brentford fans Saturdays and petrol bills.

It would seem that ASFC couldn't bring themselves to face the reality that the opportunity of getting 900+ away supporters into the stadium had been torpedoed by the weather days ago.

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I wonder if your club is telling the whole truth here?

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Haha, never heard that one before. You should be asking why your club is run like a non-league outfit.

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:rolleyes: FUNNY THING IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD ON THE DAY IS THAT THE MATCH DAY REF HAD AND SAY AGAIN HAD GIVEN THE GAME THE GO A HEAD AFTER HIS PITCH INSPECTION AND IT WAS YOU MANAGER WHO SAID HE DID'NT WANT THE GAME TO BE PLAYED BECAUSE HIS SIDE PLAYED ON THE FLOOR AND THAT THE PITCH WAS UNSUITABLE.SO I THINK QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ASKED AT YOUR END FIRST:)

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We do all the time.:(

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OK, I'm sorry I'm making light of it. I've been on the receiving end of postponed games more than once and it's not much fun. But as far as I can make out, Stanley did everything right and should not be blamed. These things happen in football (and other sports) and always will. Just accept it and look forward to the next game, wherever it is.

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Stick to the day job that's a poor attempt at humour.:rolleyes:

Only joking keep trying.

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WELL SIAD :rofl38:

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The match referee decides if the pitch is fit or unfit. He can't postpone it becuase one manager doesn't want to play. If that's the case then they would be charged with not fulfilling a fixture.I think that rumour is well off the mark I'm afraid.

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These things happen when the weather suddenly changes for the worse and conditions deteriorate unexpectedly. The truth is that ASFC should have realised on Friday that the game couldn't proceed and saved Brentford fans the time and considerable expense of travelling. Instead they were adamant that there was no risk of the game being postponed. And again on Saturday morning they could have called the game off early. Stanley did not play this by the book and that is why people are annoyed.

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What you've been told is rubbish. The match referee called the game off before our manager arrived at the ground.

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[quote=Unhappy Bee;520173]These things happen when the weather suddenly changes for the worse and conditions deteriorate unexpectedly. The truth is that ASFC should have realised on Friday that the game couldn't proceed and saved Brentford fans the time and considerable expense of travelling. Instead they were adamant that there was no risk of the game being postponed. And again on Saturday morning they could have called the game off early. Stanley did not play this by the book and that is why people are annoyed.[/quo THE GAME SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THE AMOUNT OF AWAY FANS THAT HAD TRAVELED UP AT LEAST START THE GAME APLAY THE FIRST HALF SEE HOW THE PITCH STUD UP,WE WHERE ALSO DISSAPOINTED THAT THE GAME DIDNT GO AHEAD

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You can't base the decision of a pitch being fit to play on by the number of away fans who turn up.

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From what I have been able to gather, the pitch was so bad that one of the touchlines was invisible due to the mud. How can a game be started when that is the case?

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:confused:IN THAT CASE WHY TURN UP AT THE GROUND THEN IN STEAD OF JUST TURNING ROUND AND GOING HOME

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:rolleyes:HO YOU WER'NT AT STANLEY THEN ON SATURDAY :D

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I didn't go into the ground and look at the pitch, no. But plenty of Bees did.

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:) YOUR RIGHT GTTING CARRIED AWAY.:)

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If has been stated Stanley requested a pitch inspection by a Football League appointed referee and the pitch was passed fit and there was no further rainfall nor was any forecast then how can it be the fault of Stanley? I left home at 7.30am to go to the game and didn't get home until 11pm and the pitch looked reasonable enough to me compared to many of the games I've been to but as has been stated it is down to the matchday referee who could never have called it off in time for the Brentford fans if the pitch has been passed fit at 10am. Even if the complaint was with the referee who declared the pitch fit at 10am being influenced by Stanley it would only show he was not fit to referee as he must have known the consequences of his decision. I'm sure many of us have attended matches played on far worse pitches than that which only shows the inconsistency of officials. I was at a game in Paisley two weeks ago which was called off an hour before kick off and meant I had a 350 mile round trip for nothing but that was up to the official not either club so it's not unique to Brentford, in fact saturday was the third game in 11 days I had travelled to that was off so maybe it was my fault. Thank god yesterdays game in Inverness was OK!!

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We do, frequently!!!:D:rolleyes::D

Could be something to do with the fact that 18 months ago we were a non-league outfit!!!

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Because we was a non league outfit a couple of years ago!

I think you should just get over this matter mate and move on. Its been and gone. These things will happen in football league and will for a long time, you where just very unlucky that you had come from a long way and the game was called off, this has got nothing to do with people on this forum, so why post and complain, what do you think we can do?:confused: We all wanted it on! and also where dissapointed. So like i said get over it because im sure alot of people on here have.

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Weve played on worse before and we'll play on worse again. Ultimately it was the referee who called the game off and so the buck lies with him, not with ASFC.

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I can really understand the Bees fans being annoyed - having said that a few I spoke to at the ground seemed ok about it - but the ones who tried to stop the ref leaving the car park, that is going over the top & what did they think that would achieve??
I know they'd travelled a long way but they weren't the only ones, some of the lads from our Irish supporters club had travelled over for the game. It was disappointing for everyone but not something the club can be held accountable for.

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I've been to several games that have been postponed at a very late hour, but this is the first time that it's happened when there wasn't a sudden deterioration in conditions just before the game. The fact is that the match should have been called off on Friday.

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Why? What was the pitch like on Friday? Please tell me as you seem to know that it was unplayable, were you there on Friday to inspect the pitch?

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if i remember correctly it rained friday evening here, theres stanley fans travel as far as you, stop whinging n move on.:rolleyes:

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Lets sue the gods for making it rain :rofl38:

One of those things which wasn't good for either side just the same sods law it is, move on its football:D

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None of us are complaining about the decision to call it off. What we're unhappy about is Accrington's apparent failure to comply with League protocol.

This is what you should have done

Bury - Game in Doubt
Bury - Game On

Bradford - Game in Doubt
Bradford - Game On

Yes that game can be called off still however Bury informed the Football League of a potential problem as well as notifying Bradford City. They got the match referee to inspect the pitch early and the match referee has said that as long as there is no more rain then the match will go ahead.

You didn't do any of that. You kept on saying the game was on. You apparently got a local referee in to do the inspection who for some reason passed it and despite there being no further rain the match referee made the correct decision to call it off. What you should have done was do what Bury did.

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And?????????? we did notify the pitch was to be inspected & then when was passed - again it still comes down to the referee of the match at the end of the day, Bury's may of been in worser condition than ours, how do we know for sure??

At the end of the day ASFC did what they could & was down to the refs desicion - sorry what more do u want? Arguing about the toss isn't solving anything again comes down to the gods :rolleyes:

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Actually from the e-mail I received you weren't "expecting any problems" You're supposed to get the match referee to inspect the pitch which is what you failed to do. You also failed to notify any of us that there was even to be a pitch inspection.

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The match referee failed to arrive early enough to properly inspect the pitch so Stanley got another ref in to give his judgment. Initiative?

The blame should be put squarely upon the match referee, due to his lack of nouse to get to the ground early, despite the pitch concerns all week.

These things happen. People from our club are frustrated at the postponement and apologetic towards your traveling fans.
I don't believe you have any right to accuse our club of anything. You should be apologising for your fans' behaviour in the car park - it was idiotic.

...in my humble.

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He would turn up early if requested to do so. The club reported no pitch problems on Friday, and if that's the official line then that would be what was passed on to the referee, otherwsie he would have been told by the league to to turn up earlier or even the night before.

This will keep going round in circles because at the end of the day nobody knows anymore facts than those published. From the facts published then there have been no rules broken, apart from possibly failing to notify the away team an inspection was called on Saturday morning ( thats if the Brentofrd chairman is correct ).

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It's quite plain that ASFC did not follow the accepted protocol - the bleatings of their supporters here only make me more convinced that tin-pot non-league outfits should not be allowed in the league.

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Considering both clubs are in the same division I don't really think you can continue with the superior club attitude :D

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Well whats brentford still doing in the league then?:)

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and likewise the whinings of wannabe big-boys should serve to remind you that you are now in the basement league.

Whilst you are clearly quite horrified to be in this league and visit tinpot grounds such as ours we are more than happy to be here. Have you ever been to Holker St?

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i just swatted ya, to put ya out yer misery unhappy one.:D

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I think you got above this tin-pot non-league outfit for the first time this season the weekend before last ? You might just discover the true joys of non-league sooner than you think :).

I was feeling sorry for the travelling Bees but given the bleating (buzzing ?) of their self-appointed spokesmen on here, I'm beginning to get over it.

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i felt genuinly sorry for the fans who travelled up,but to be still whining today, the prat managed to dissolve that sympathy, if the bee wants to carry on bleating i suggest it rings the "Samaritans" they are very good at that sort of thing.:rolleyes:

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Looks like Eric may have to call on Mr Bean again:

BEES FUMING OVER STANLEY PITCH FARCE | Football Transfer News, Football News, Fixtures, Results, Match Reports, Stats

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Waterlogged pitch my arse!! Muddy in parts yes!

& isn't Eric on about a reduced gate fee anyway:confused: me thinks they are making a big deal over nowt moaning for moaning sake without much of the facts either, welcome to the tinpot shut up & get on with it, its league 2 not the Ritz:mad:

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I don't usually post here, but, I can clarify the friday nights weather, my drive has been dug out for block paving, saturday morning it was 10" deep with water when it bucketed down at 3.15am, at which point I was stood having a smoke on the doorstep! (heartburn from my indian curry tea!!).

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Our resident pitch nosier bananaman said the covers were on fri - certainly on the parts thats in question, tho they may not accounted for the gusty winds later that eve that may have pushed water under the lap overs:rolleyes: only my thoughts.

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The thing everyone is miffed about is the constant "no problems, no problems" all week, and even the chance of calling it off at 10.00 on the Saturday would have helped.

Aside from this, all the Accy supporters I spoke to on Saturday were sympathetic, and hospitable.

I've posted the same on our site;but don't let this slanging match get out of hand.

I'd like to think your travelling fans will get the same hospitable welcome we got, and no animosity.

Your managers don't give a **** type attitude about travelling fans when interviewed leaves him open to a warm reception on his walk to the dug out though!

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you can say what ever you like unhappy bee but a lot of work had been put into that pitch the covers had been put on and the grounds man and a lot of A.S.F.C staff were helping to work on the pitch all week including the day of the match and the fa did get a ref to inspect the pitch and he said it was play able but the reason why the club got the fa to appoint a ref to look at the pitch was to stop a waited journey from you bee fans as we knew there was a lot of fans coming travelling a long journey and the club cannot help the weather. I work at the club on a match day and if there is anyone the fa should be looking at is your fans acting the way you did charging at the stewards who are only there to ensure all safety in and around the ground at the end of the day it is one of those things it happens and it happens to other clubs including us. The ref in the morning was different to the match ref and the match ref has the last say also I am a qualified ref and that match was never going to happen as if the match would have been played the ref wouldn’t have been insured on his liability and the ref could have been open to being liable if a player was injured.

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Thanks WBB, cant fault the brentford lads that came into the clubhouse, least to get some complimentary free pie & peas down before the journey back, got to see some of our worse pitches over our history hehehehehe as the supporters club had their launch that day, typically the only day our match gets called off.

Till the facts of the matter come through then its only speculation on either side & we're all gonna defend our own goal posts, more than our respective teams hehehehe, but i shouldnt of thought that the intention to pull a fast one for the match to be played & risked the finances [that is controlled by iron fist is the purse strings generally], thats what makes me think mis-communication all round rather than an intentional gamble as some Brentford fans are insinuating:rolleyes: IMHO.

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just watched highlights of swansea v newcastle highlights on espn classics and that pitch was worse than stanleys and it still was a free flowing game we are just too soft these days even leighton james scored:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:Dwell it was from 1980..:D

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[quote=Stanleymad;520493]Thanks WBB, cant fault the brentford lads that came into the clubhouse, least to get some complimentary free pie & peas down before the journey back, :)Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pie n peas

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Well, I certainly hope that he doesn't have to walk through any mud on his way to the dug out, because if he does, believe me, we'll be making a complaint to the football league! ;)

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:;)

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But, Johnny Coleman walks on water. ;)

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For goodness sake Oggy, thats Andy Proctor who walks on water :rolleyes: oh well he will just have to carry Coley then :p

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There you are, Bees...now please give it a rest!

Stanley To Make Bees Gesture (from Lancashire Telegraph)

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Club Statement now on Fishy Site

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As I've posted on earlier threads, I have a lot of affection for Stanley (having seen you lot around two dozen times blah blah blah) so it's with regret that this has all happened.

I think the gripe is, that lots of Bees fans were travelling and up until 2pm, your nice lady in the office said that there 'was no doubt that the game would be on' - I know I phoned her.

I stayed overnight, so my personal gripe isn't the 'should they or should they not have' called the game off at 10am, although this would have saved many trips by car. More so are the wrong facts about the matter -

1) I know Andy Scott the manager personally and he was desperate to have the game played. We are on a four match run of wins, have no game next Saturday because of the FA Cup, and was hoping to keep the momentum going..
2) The pitch on arrival (and I like to think I am a fair man) was far from unplayable. The middle from the centre spot to the away end goal (nice covered terrace now btw!) was thick mud, I saw the keepers coach trying to roll the ball and it wouldn't, but in any case the touchline by the side of the main stand was non existant, just a section of mud, no grass to be seen, no lines..
3) You cannot blame the referee - the blame I believe (or shall I say niaviety) is that Acrington didn't either call the game off on Friday or at least inform people that there would have to be an inspection in the morning..

As a Stanley fan I know who text me afterwards said 'the problem is that back in the Northern Premier days, games like this would have been played.. we forget that we are in the Football League now...'

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Well the club rebuts the accusation made by Brentford & have made a statement on our site answers it all Accrington Stanley :D

So dont know why u insist on still bleating on about it :rolleyes:

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And I only came on here to try and give a balanced case...

You believe what you want mate, thats about £15,000 you've lost in revenue because there won't be that number who will try again...however, I'm sure it will be more than the 37 you took to Peterboro'...

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Oh dear... looks like the Football League have been ringing round Brentford fans saying that 'they weren't aware of any 10am inspection...' Poor old Accy...they really need to get their story straight..

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Oh dear i think u need to remove the thorn from your side!!:p

You've given yours & we've given our version of events & lets see if anything comes off it with the FL:rolleyes:

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oh well if the Football League are in Direct contact with Bees fans, that says it all,:rofl38: balanced view my arse.:D

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if teh nice lady in the office at the Football League wasn't aware of any inspection then she needs sacking. Tinpot or what!

Why would we make an official statement that there had been a phone call, and a subsequent visit by FA appointed ref if we hadn't done that and knowing full well that there is to be an 'investigation' of sorts to follow.

I reckon we should make a subsequent statement to the effect that Brentford's forum should be careful what it allows to be published as our legal team are watching .......

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I really do hope we made that phone call.:(

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I think they are only answering the number of calls and e-mails from people who have complained...

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I said 'The nice Lady in YOUR office' dumbnuts..

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i'm damn sure they are.:rolleyes: proving once again what whingers they are down that way, its common sense and decency to see what transpires AFTER an investigation, pity those requisites are absent with bees.:rolleyes:

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and I said the nice lady in the FL office :dummy:

and you wonder why our fans are responding like they do when you call people dumbnuts for no reason? Grow up and get a life ******

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:punsure:

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:mad: not nice mate at all:( and i thought you said you had affection for stanley:rolleyes: