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maccawozzagod 24-01-2008 21:29

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can anybody help me with regards to possibly dating these badges? I'd like to create an online library eventually on the OSC site that will contain images of as many badges as we lay our hands on (temp or otherwise).

I think the On Stanley On one is probably a re-issue but would you know the approx year the orignal was out?

Also, if you have any badges you'd like to be part of the Exhibition then please let me know. I am in contact with a collector at the moment but he seems unwilling to make me a brew while I look at them!!! :rolleyes:

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thanks to Kipax for taking the pictures so clearly cos you'd not be able to see 'em properly otherwise!

Bagpuss 24-01-2008 21:43

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 521606)
I am in contact with a collector at the moment but he seems unwilling to make me a brew while I look at them!!! :rolleyes:

You cheeky sod I've had a lot on this week so I can go tomorrow night, it's not easy finding time to do your own stuff when there's three sprogs and Mrs B wanting jobs doing.

I haven't got badge one is it open to offers or can we make a deal?

Bagpuss 24-01-2008 21:46

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Badge two was made a few years ago they are very common, I couldn't believe one went on ebay the other day for £12, there are a few variations of it, white instead of red etc. but to me it's just an old Man Utd badge thats been slightly changed.

Bagpuss 24-01-2008 21:49

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Badge three could be old or it could be a repo, I have two different ones, one has a gold back the other silver.

maccawozzagod 24-01-2008 22:01

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can't offer badge 1 as it was an 'inheritance'!!!!

badge 2 there are apparently two variations of, Kipax has a collection of pics on his site and he says the two are different but they look the same to me! I was also amazed at the price on ebay as I considered getting it to have a spare for some reason.

I wasn't aware of any differences on badge 3 but I think mine is the gold backed one

nah, I wasn't being sarky about the brew thing as I realise we all have time restrictions but whenever you have a spare half hour or summat then I'll nip round.

Just found another one. I think this is a late eighties Supporters Club one but I could be wrong. Its a big 38mm one instead of the usual 25mm

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davo69 24-01-2008 22:03

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should they not be black and white if they are badgers ?

Bagpuss 24-01-2008 22:10

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 521673)
badge 2 there are apparently two variations of,

No there are three.

Bagpuss 24-01-2008 22:14

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 521673)
can't offer badge 1 as it was an 'inheritance'!!!!

Of course you can I won't tell anyone.:)

We really need to see that guy who wanted to buy those OSC badges, he has a real collection, he bought Kipaxs when he sold his to fund a new camera, I was not happy. Doug also has a collection but I'm not sure how many. BTW my 66 are all different and all Stanley.

maccawozzagod 24-01-2008 22:43

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I'll see if I can find out who Kipax sold up to.

Bagpuss 24-01-2008 22:50

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 521714)
I'll see if I can find out who Kipax sold up to.

I used to see him every day until his kid moved up a school, he's in the OSC lives near the hospital.

Doug 24-01-2008 22:52

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******, I feel like the poor relation, I’ve got about 25 badges, all Stanley and I open to acquiring more if anyone as swops (Jesus, That’s a word I haven’t used in donkeys years) or wants to sell at a reasonable price.

Rob, I’ve still got the little 50s/60s Stanley footballer on its original card which I offered to the OSC as a freebie for the exhibition. Let me know when you want it and I’ll bring it over, in fact pm me a drop address and I’ll get it over next week. I’ve also the got the England XI signed programme as well that I promised. Sorry, I drunk the Gin but will supply another on request.

Bagpuss 24-01-2008 22:53

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If anyone has any "Stanely" badges as macca spells it and I haven't got it I will buy.

Doug 24-01-2008 22:56

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 521718)
If anyone has any "Stanely" badges as macca spells it and I haven't got it I will buy.


Me too............:D

Bagpuss 24-01-2008 23:03

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 521719)
Me too............:D

We really do need to stop out bidding each other Doug we only make the price go higher, BTW macca I bid £75 for badge 1, deal or no deal?

maccawozzagod 24-01-2008 23:20

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sorry mate, I had an offer of over £100 six months ago but couldn't let it go. My dad had one until that letter wnet in the Observer a few weeks ago. £25 he accepted!


thanks Doug, PM on the way. I'll let you off on the Gin as long as you cut me in on the next one!

maccawozzagod 24-01-2008 23:20

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and I'll get some Stanely badges made up if you like!

harwood red 24-01-2008 23:24

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talking of badges, anyone have any ideas on a design for next seasons OSC badges..I was thinking something along the lines of celebrating it being 40 years since stanley rose from the ashes..

anyone??

maccawozzagod 24-01-2008 23:33

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new thread!! new thread!! same again for the membership cards, we got some good ideas last year (thanks SamF)

harwood red 24-01-2008 23:35

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 521730)
new thread!! new thread!! same again for the membership cards, we got some good ideas last year (thanks SamF)

ok ok don't panic, will do it now, sorry gents :D

southernred 25-01-2008 11:57

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Badge 1)

To my knowlege and saw several of these in the 70's but nobody would give them away; is the supporters club badge from the 50's. Guess Jack Barrett would be able to confirm

Badge 2)

No idea, not my era, but would guess late 80's early 90's

Badge 3)

Now I can give you the lowdown!!

I commissioned this in the early 80's ( exact date to follow) to add to the items in the Stanley shop. If you think today's range is small in my days we did pens, rosettes and badges!!

I thought of the design ( can't remember what my inspiration was) and got a company called TN Priest in Birmingham to make them) These were metal and had the companies name on the back. I'll try and remember how much I we sold them for.

Later as these sold out, Alan Harker ( Commercial Director at the time of the TRA company) decided he could get the same design badge made cheaper, so he arranged that. Difference was they were made of plastic. That I guess would explain the different styles.

I know I have one of the orginal metal badges, and several of the plastic ones

Trust this helps:)

If indeed there are now 60+ ASFC badges in existance it once again shows how far we have come as a club, because nothing would have been produced in the 60's or 70's.

Give us the old gree 26-01-2008 19:59

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Originally Posted by southernred (Post 521859)
Badge 1)

To my knowlege and saw several of these in the 70's but nobody would give them away; is the supporters club badge from the 50's. Guess Jack Barrett would be able to confirm

Badge 2)

No idea, not my era, but would guess late 80's early 90's

Badge 3)

Now I can give you the lowdown!!

I commissioned this in the early 80's ( exact date to follow) to add to the items in the Stanley shop. If you think today's range is small in my days we did pens, rosettes and badges!!

I thought of the design ( can't remember what my inspiration was) and got a company called TN Priest in Birmingham to make them) These were metal and had the companies name on the back. I'll try and remember how much I we sold them for.

Later as these sold out, Alan Harker ( Commercial Director at the time of the TRA company) decided he could get the same design badge made cheaper, so he arranged that. Difference was they were made of plastic. That I guess would explain the different styles.

I know I have one of the orginal metal badges, and several of the plastic ones

Trust this helps:)

If indeed there are now 60+ ASFC badges in existance it once again shows how far we have come as a club, because nothing would have been produced in the 60's or 70's.


Thanks for the update SR

cmonstanley 26-01-2008 20:29

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 521673)
can't offer badge 1 as it was an 'inheritance'!!!!

badge 2 there are apparently two variations of, Kipax has a collection of pics on his site and he says the two are different but they look the same to me! I was also amazed at the price on ebay as I considered getting it to have a spare for some reason.

I wasn't aware of any differences on badge 3 but I think mine is the gold backed one

nah, I wasn't being sarky about the brew thing as I realise we all have time restrictions but whenever you have a spare half hour or summat then I'll nip round.

Just found another one. I think this is a late eighties Supporters Club one but I could be wrong. Its a big 38mm one instead of the usual 25mm

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ive got that one maybe early 90s somebody gave me it when i was buying stanle on in marys music early 1990s..

Bagpuss 26-01-2008 20:35

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If anyone else has badge one and they want to sell pm me.

maccawozzagod 27-01-2008 21:45

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Originally Posted by southernred (Post 521859)
Later as these sold out, Alan Harker ( Commercial Director at the time of the TRA company) decided he could get the same design badge made cheaper, so he arranged that. Difference was they were made of plastic. That I guess would explain the different styles.

I know I have one of the orginal metal badges, and several of the plastic ones

.

thanks for the info SR

The one I have that you did the design for is metal but doesn't have the company name on the back :confused:

Is mine worth more? ;)

Bagpuss 14-06-2008 13:51

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Anyone interested, badge No1 is currently for auction on ebay, be prepared to pay high if you're interested because I want this and I know another collector has a big budget for it too.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ksid=p3907.m29

Bagpuss 18-06-2008 21:51

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Not a happy bunny at the moment, basically being a Stanley badge collector with a limited budget I am not impressed that the OSC is buying up badges on ebay using OSC funding at silly prices.
It's got to the point where sellers I'm sure have had the nod that silly money is available and I suspect are bidding up badges themselves. This did not need to happen as myself and other collectors where willing to let the OSC loan badges for the exhibition.
To me it feels like Chelski buying all the young players from teams like Stanley just because they can, why do it. The OSC has now alienated the small collectors to the point where the little man can fight back with the only thing I can do and withdraw my offer of loaning any badges, sorry but I will say it again this did not need to happen the badges where there for you to use but the exhibition money was obviously burning a hole in your pocket.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ksid=p3907.m29

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEBI:IT&ih=002

maccawozzagod 19-06-2008 00:17

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oh dear oh dear Bagpuss.

I did send you a PM stating my intent to bid for one of the badges (that I would or could bid for myself) that I would subsequently sell back to you (or first refusal). I also gave you my mobile number so that we could discuss it.

(not) OSC funds ensuring that highly collectable memorabilia stays within the Stanley family? Can't see owt wrong with that myself.

I suppose it is OSC funds bidding up badge number one as well is it? well no it isn't as it goes because I already have that one.


no need for this particular post Bagpuss.

Bagpuss 19-06-2008 13:24

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 594874)
no need for this particular post Bagpuss.

I disagree, I had a point to make, no malace intended I just thought the OSC did not need to bid for any badges because there was enough coming your way for the exhibition for free.:confused:

If you want to bid for something try this, it WILL get a few more on the Clayton End next season and its cheap, so no need to inflate the price.;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/F172a-Langley-...ayphotohosting

Stanleymad 19-06-2008 14:27

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 595053)
I disagree, I had a point to make, no malace intended I just thought the OSC did not need to bid for any badges because there was enough coming your way for the exhibition for free.:confused:

Wish that was true baggy, there has been a few donations but not an awful lot of response to pleas made for memorabilia, so means we have not much option but to purchase them so that least the stuff acquired that way come home to Accy :D

harwood red 19-06-2008 22:53

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sorry you feel that way bagpuss, you have to remember that the way ebay runs the bidding process has changed and you can no longer see who the current winning bid is from as you could before, so how are we supposed to know if it is you, who kindly offered to lend your collection. It could've gone to someone who would not be so generous and it is not just about the exhibition it is the longer term investment which eventually will lead to more money in the club!

I hope you will reconsider your decision

hmm just re-read that and it sounds a proper brown tongue post :D

JEFF 20-06-2008 08:59

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I made this point a while ago when a programme was purchased by the OSC. At the time I suggested that if anything that was needed for the exhibition etc a request should be put on the messageboard to see if anybody had the item. Since then programmes etc have been bought by the OSC. What is going to happen to these items after the exhibition? Who is looking after these items?

JEFF 20-06-2008 11:30

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 595065)
Wish that was true baggy, there has been a few donations but not an awful lot of response to pleas made for memorabilia, so means we have not much option but to purchase them so that least the stuff acquired that way come home to Accy :D

I have offered a lot of memorabilia including programmes dating back to 1920's, a medal, share certificates, photos, etc. I have been contacted once over a month ago and nothing since. The items are out there, they do not need to be bought. I am in total agreement with Baggy on this one.

Stanleymad 20-06-2008 11:46

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 595573)
I have offered a lot of memorabilia including programmes dating back to 1920's, a medal, share certificates, photos, etc. I have been contacted once over a month ago and nothing since. The items are out there, they do not need to be bought. I am in total agreement with Baggy on this one.


There have been countless requests on here with regards to stanley memorabilia by myself & Macca in particular, also asked for at the FES over the tannoy, in media/radio the works. The was some response to that has been sorted but i did in particular with the stories thread request memorabilia & no response other than ones i've already been in touch with & i haven't personally had an offer from your good self tho i cannot speak for macca. Can you refer to the post you made regarding that as could be an over sight, i seriously wouldnt of missed an offer intentionally as wouldnt macca, that could deprive the exhibition of callibre items missing from the exhibits loaned by a loyal fan especially.

maccawozzagod 20-06-2008 11:54

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 595494)
I made this point a while ago when a programme was purchased by the OSC. At the time I suggested that if anything that was needed for the exhibition etc a request should be put on the messageboard to see if anybody had the item. Since then programmes etc have been bought by the OSC. What is going to happen to these items after the exhibition? Who is looking after these items?

All items bought by the OSC will remain the property of the OSC. More valuable items may stay as a long term asset of the club so that the club always has something of value (may be only sentimental value though). Some items may be auctioned off or offered as prizes at some point in the future yet to be determined


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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 595573)
I have offered a lot of memorabilia including programmes dating back to 1920's, a medal, share certificates, photos, etc. I have been contacted once over a month ago and nothing since. The items are out there, they do not need to be bought. I am in total agreement with Baggy on this one.

yes Jeff, we did exchange PM's in which I said that I would collect nearer to the exhibition which is due this week or next. I did also ask if I could possibly come to have a look at what you have which you kindly agreed to - unfortunately due to a heavily pregnant wife and a bad case of woodworm that has required four hours a night of work doing on it I haven't had chance to do so.

JEFF 20-06-2008 12:20

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 595591)
There have been countless requests on here with regards to stanley memorabilia by myself & Macca in particular, also asked for at the FES over the tannoy, in media/radio the works. The was some response to that has been sorted but i did in particular with the stories thread request memorabilia & no response other than ones i've already been in touch with & i haven't personally had an offer from your good self tho i cannot speak for macca. Can you refer to the post you made regarding that as could be an over sight, i seriously wouldnt of missed an offer intentionally as wouldnt macca, that could deprive the exhibition of callibre items missing from the exhibits loaned by a loyal fan especially.

There has never been any requests for any specific memorabilia, just requests for 'Stanley memorabilia' which could mean anything. Why not state what specific memorabilia you are looking for.

southernred 20-06-2008 12:40

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As a slight "neuteral" in the debate can I add the following.

The reason I guess is that nobody has asked for specifics is that NOBODY has a clue what might be out there.

This would be my wish list:

Orginial players shirts pre 62

Orginial players shirts 70's to early 80's

Old share certificates pre 62

Pre 62 programmes

Any pre 73 programmes ( 70-73) Where any ever printed???

Medals from any trophies won??

Pre 62 scarves

What happened to the contents of the club in 62. I know certain things where repossessed in lieu of debts, but was anything taken by ex-employees??

I only have programmes from 73-to 85 and these have been given to Macca as requested.

I'm sure there will be separate threads but there is another exhibition meeting on Monday; please come along contribute to the on going debate:)

maccawozzagod 20-06-2008 21:31

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my wish list would be for the large stone plaque that is on the front of the Breedon Book - plonked and abandoned in the middle of the derelict pitch post 62. Does anyone know what became of it?

Royboy39 20-06-2008 21:43

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 595886)
my wish list would be for the large stone plaque that is on the front of the Breedon Book - plonked and abandoned in the middle of the derelict pitch post 62. Does anyone know what became of it?

Rob, it seems that you are taking a lot of uncalled for stick on this thread.
I would have thrown the towel in long ago.

Gayle 20-06-2008 21:50

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Can I just confirm to anyone that has offered any items for the exhibition - the exhibition is fully insured. The room in which the exhibition is being held is going to be stewarded at all times, when not steward the doors will be locked so no one can get in.

So, in other words - any memorabilia is fully protected.

Bagpuss 26-06-2008 15:56

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 594874)
I did send you a PM stating my intent to bid for one of the badges

Dare I ask if you have finished bidding?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEBI:IT&ih=002

maccawozzagod 26-06-2008 17:02

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 594762)
It's got to the point where sellers I'm sure have had the nod that silly money is available and I suspect are bidding up badges themselves.

i'd be giving the game away if I said on here that I was willing to bid up to £xx so I won't say one way or another if I still intend to bid. It is suspicious how the bidding went up to just above what I had bid and then had a bid retracted, not long before you pointed it out.

The first badge has gone to an unkown bidder who may or not be part of the Stanley family - we'll never know. I do however know of the existence of several of those badges so it didn't interest me. The other one I only know of two people who have this badge and I also know what its purported resale value is. Part of the remit for the OSC and its exhibition is to gather together items of value (not just financial) for the benefit and enjoyment of the collective. This badge comes into that category. As previously offered Bagpuss I would probably offer you first refusal on buying it, at the price it takes to secure it, should the OSC want to cash in on an asset.

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 594762)
The OSC has now alienated the small collectors to the point .....

well I did conced on at least two earlier this week in lieu of you and Jeff thinking it was an abuse or whatever....... and one of them was won by you and it is one you already have.

Bagpuss 26-06-2008 20:30

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 598770)
well I did conced on at least two earlier...... and one of them was won by you and it is one you already have.

The badge I won this week was the white version of the common red one, it was NOT a badge I already have.

As a side note I have been offered a chance to sell my collection which I'm seriously considering.

maccawozzagod 26-06-2008 21:19

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I would consider bidding on it Bagpuss if you were to sell it - and that would be a private bid as well rather than an OSC one. Let me know if you are interested

JEFF 27-06-2008 12:43

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 598770)
well I did conced on at least two earlier this week in lieu of you and Jeff thinking it was an abuse or whatever....... and one of them was won by you and it is one you already have.

I never thought it was an abuse. I just thought that you would have asked to borrow specific items instead of buying them, and as the OSC don't have an office or any base I just wondered who would be responsible for the items purchased after the exhibition had ended

maccawozzagod 27-06-2008 17:00

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no problem Jeff - I was probably a little harsh in saying that you thought it was an abuse so I apologise if I have offended.

You are right in asking that without a 'base' where does stuff go. In this, and probably every other instance, it usually falls on committee members to look after things. In previous years things like badge collections etc have been given to the club to display in the clubhouse but that won't be happening this time around as things go missing. I was informed a couple of nights ago that only a few years ago there was a badge collection in the clubhouse with numerous pre 62 badges in it. Now there are only 3 badges pre 62 that I am aware of (anymore please let me know - if only for 'knowledges' sake) but that particular collection went missing during one of the many renovations over the years. The OSC has also, through various people, donated picture collections, but they get taken down for whatever reason and are not stored properly and then become useless. Only last year we needed some pictures for the Crown but only the 10 or so that are up now were any good - out of a choice of around 30.

At some point next season the OSC will have to decide what to do with the various assets that we will have gained. Do we sell them? I know that Bagpuss would like at least one of the badgesbut what if he doesn't want to pay what we ask of it? do we put it up for auction and risk it going to a 'non-Stanley' collector? or do we sell it for under the going rate because it is to one of our own? Most of the programmes we have bought will be neither here nor there value wise and are only really of any value as part of a wider collection. Probably not worth selling and trying to complete whatever collection they are?

Anyway, thats something to decide on at a later date with a few more peoples input.

mab 30-06-2008 18:31

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http://i24.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/f8/ac/33d8_1.JPG
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifanyone know how old is the one on the right????

lancsdave 30-06-2008 18:32

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 600539)


Is that badge legal these days ? :D

Blackburn Stanley 01-07-2008 14:36

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 600539)

Very modern (2002 to prescent day). They are made by a company called Zencoe, who make "Golly" badges for 90% of League clubs. As to them being "legal" - yes course they are, in fact "Golly" badges are some the best sellers these days.

Blackburn Stanley 01-07-2008 14:45

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Does anyone have any Stanley match day badges? ie badges for 'one-off' games involving Stanley and another club. Like say Chester v Stanley (first game back in the football league). If so let us know - picture if poss!

Bagpuss 01-07-2008 14:51

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Originally Posted by Blackburn Stanley (Post 600930)
Does anyone have any Stanley match day badges? ie badges for 'one-off' games involving Stanley and another club. Like say Chester v Stanley (first game back in the football league). If so let us know - picture if poss!

I've got a few:rolleyes: why do you want a pic, are you going to copy them so they won't be one offs?:);)

Bagpuss 01-07-2008 14:55

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 598952)
I would consider bidding on it Bagpuss if you were to sell it - and that would be a private bid as well rather than an OSC one. Let me know if you are interested

I've had one offer unseen, you have seen them so out of interest what would be your bid? PM if you want.

Could you not arrange for someone from the OSC to bid against you using a different name then the price for my badges would go up?:rolleyes:

Blackburn Stanley 01-07-2008 15:07

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No just wanted to see them because I never have. As to copying them - what would be the point of that? Do you know the costs involved? And as sales of Stanley badges are so small its very very hard to justify making any new ones (seeing a miniumn run of 150 is needed now).

Bagpuss 01-07-2008 15:46

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Originally Posted by Blackburn Stanley (Post 600933)
No just wanted to see them because I never have. As to copying them - what would be the point of that? Do you know the costs involved? And as sales of Stanley badges are so small its very very hard to justify making any new ones (seeing a miniumn run of 150 is needed now).

I will post a pic later because I have a feeling your idea of the one off badge is different to the ones I have collected over the years.


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