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slerpy 30-01-2008 15:17

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Against Posh the wheels came off, Coleman has got shot of the dead wood, look at Darlington's league position and in all honesty there is no disgrace in going down 1-0, think about it, the defence held their collective nerve, some teams would have fallen into pieces after such an early goal. Well done Accy , we will soon get back to winning ways very soon

Darwenred1968 30-01-2008 16:14

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Originally Posted by slerpy (Post 524256)
Against Posh the wheels came off, Coleman has got shot of the dead wood, look at Darlington's league position and in all honesty there is no disgrace in going down 1-0, think about it, the defence held their collective nerve, some teams would have fallen into pieces after such an early goal. Well done Accy , we will soon get back to winning ways very soon

Oh great lets congratulate the team for losing now shall we?:confused: We might if we are lucky get a Draw on Saturday? This lot want a kick up the arse!! They are all starting to close the gap now and when we start to applaud a team for losing something is sadly wrong .
Hopefully if this 18 year old vastly experienced sort of youth team/reserve player signs he will be Williams new rock!! Coleman get a grip we are on a downward spiral and its all your fault you buy the Sh*te you play your mates all the bad ones (Williams,Branchetc..)
Start winning or start packing your bags!!:dummy2:

Grimps 30-01-2008 19:10

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time to go

Haggis316 30-01-2008 20:12

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Originally Posted by Darwenred1968 (Post 524268)
Hopefully if this 18 year old vastly experienced sort of youth team/reserve player signs he will be Williams new rock!!

Take it he's the much talked of leader then.

MCR ADIM 30-01-2008 20:25

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u cant always blame one player its a team game!!

JEFF 31-01-2008 10:20

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Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 524407)
u cant always blame one player its a team game!!

Yes, and who picks the team ?

mab 31-01-2008 11:18

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 524603)
Yes, and who picks the team ?

Who would you pick if you was the manager:)

mab 31-01-2008 11:26

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:) Think its time to get behind the team ! who ever is picket to play.its times like these when we should pull together'not nitpick and point fingers:)

Alvin the chipmunk 31-01-2008 11:41

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Some of you lot are demented. We are in a great positon I would take every year. What do you honestly expect? Promotion? IMHO recent success has made people greedy, expecting us to roll over everybody every game. Face facts. Accringtion Stanley without major investment can never be the Premier League club you all dream of.

FFS Rochdale have been here for over 30 years and what makes us think we have a divine right to be higher then them?

Thank God you're not a Wrexham, Mansfield, Bradford fan etc. Huge clubs who have fallen from place. Then you would know failure.

Even if we turned it round and got promoted - some of you would still be moaning next year, just as you did last and the year before it. im not saying were not entitlked to moan at times, but the level of negativity on here is beyond a joke.

I accept its a different mentality of fan who goes along these days. When we were in the NLP, nobody ever moaned, we sorta enjoyed being crap and it was a good crack. Nowadays everyone who has "discovered" Stanley (thanks to Coley) wants more and more glory each season like they have been accustomed to.

Where is the atmosphere of the old Stanley gone. The sing song, the pint and the half time pie - win lose or draw? The negative vibe can really be felt around the ground on matchdays, despite us heading for our highest football League finish for 46 years.

York, Exeter, Cambridge, Oxford - all these huge clubs would give their right arm to be where we are and all we do is moan.

Folk just dont know when they have a good thing.

Revived Red 31-01-2008 12:37

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Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 524619)
Some of you lot are demented.

Sorry, but I do not understand why those who dare to criticise are addressed with such venom. I may be wrong, but I don't think I have ever seen the so-called critics attack the non-critics in such personal and vindictive terms.

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Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 524619)
We are in a great positon I would take every year. What do you honestly expect?

I would not say we are in a great position, but we are ok - at the moment. There are many other threads where people have said what they expect. These include : better use of varied tactics, team cohesion, more effective use of substitutes, etc etc.

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Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 524619)
Face facts. Accringtion Stanley without major investment can never be the Premier League club you all dream of.

Exaggeration does not help your case. Again, I cannot anyone ever saying that they dream of Stanley being a Premier League club. It does not require major investment to tackle the three issues just mentioned above. On another thread, people have commented on how hopeless we are at throw-ins and set pieces. No investment is needed to sort out that problem.

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Originally Posted by Alvin the chipmunk (Post 524619)
Folk just dont know when they have a good thing.

Yes, they do know when they have a good thing - but please let them express the hope for something still better, and possibly even ways of achieving better things, without heaping scorn and abuse on them as use of the word "demented" suggests.

maccawozzagod 31-01-2008 12:39

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so what's the answer then?

numerous people just want to moan.

numerous people just want to be positive.

numerous people don't give a hoot one way or the other.

numerous people don't post anymore because it is just moan, moan, moan.


If you wanna moan then do it, if you don't like the moaners then don't join in and help to expand the thread, if you don't post because AW is crap nowadays then you need to join back in and create some of the threads that you'd rather see - block the people whose posts you don't want.

If the more positive people, or more generally talkative people stay away then all we are left with is the moaning. There is nowhere else to go to chat Stanley - this is the forum. The OSC site is not used for anything other than OSC stuff, the Ultras site is used by three or four people a couple of times a week, Vital is used by tosspot numpties who support other teams. Where do you wanna chat? do you wanna filter the neg vibes out?

As a body of fans we need to try to create the better vibe where possible and if it can't be done here then find other media with which to do it. Not enough people can be arsed though so we all end up talking tripe on here day after day. One of the more positive things that has happened recently is the OSC exhibition, but how many of you have offered your services with collecting stories or memorabilia? how many have offered their own stories? how many have offered memorabilia? how many of you turned up for the launch? Not bloody many is how many. How many will moan that it is not as good as expected?

We were offered a column in the telegraph (fans forum thingy) but about four people volunteered to offer up to 50 words a week.

The Observer would gladly give us a letter to the Sports Editor page - if enough people could be arsed to write a letter.

Radio Lancs has a weekly fans panel and offers listeners the chance to ring or text in, but because nobody does they have to ring one of us (3 maybe 4 on a rota) to get any sort of view.

Lets everybody get off their high horses and start writing letters.

...or can you not be arsed?

JEFF 31-01-2008 13:14

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Originally Posted by mab (Post 524610)
Who would you pick if you was the manager:)

Luckily I am not the manager:)

harwood red 31-01-2008 13:48

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two great posts from alvin and macca.

I think what we need on here is a balanced view...yes lets moan, but not attack, lets celebrate but not get carried away...but most of all lets support our team, management and club

Chimer 31-01-2008 16:08

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 524637)
Sorry, but I do not understand why those who dare to criticise are addressed with such venom. I may be wrong, but I don't think I have ever seen the so-called critics attack the non-critics in such personal and vindictive terms.

I don't address the critics with venom, I just put my contrary view. I personally have not been attacked in "personal and vindictive terms" (possibly 'cos nobody really knows who I am). But I (and those who express similar views) are frequently accused of wearing rose tinted specs, having heads in sand, etc. We haven't. We don't think things are fantastic. We just think they're pretty damn good compared with the way they were - and we're thankful for that, and appreciative of and loyal (OK just possibly too loyal) to those who made it possible. Also, we don't believe in magical fixes, i.e. that replacing JC (and/or EW) with someone else will make us promotion contenders, unless he/they come complete with a huge bag of gold (or maybe roubles).

slerpy 31-01-2008 16:19

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Originally Posted by Darwenred1968 (Post 524268)
Oh great lets congratulate the team for losing now shall we?:confused: We might if we are lucky get a Draw on Saturday? This lot want a kick up the arse!! They are all starting to close the gap now and when we start to applaud a team for losing something is sadly wrong .
Hopefully if this 18 year old vastly experienced sort of youth team/reserve player signs he will be Williams new rock!! Coleman get a grip we are on a downward spiral and its all your fault you buy the Sh*te you play your mates all the bad ones (Williams,Branchetc..)
Start winning or start packing your bags!!:dummy2:

My point was that a lot of teams lose confidence( a bit like shell-shock) after a defeat of 8-2 proportions, we put in a plucky display at Darlington.

shakermaker 31-01-2008 16:20

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It's far from 'demented' of people to want their club to use their abilities to the full, thus getting to a position where no chance has been squandered. Even if this left us in the Conference I'm sure people would be happy in the knowledge that no more could've been done to retain our league status as all efforts were made to the full.
This is where people get irate about crap tactics, never changing & ineffective player selections, crap club-fan relations etc - it is fear that our chance to be a football league club again will be wasted due to lack of effort, commitment and professionalism.


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