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Seem to remember that his Dad was down in one match programme as favouriting "chips and beans".

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As i was down on a break for a few days and the game was at home I went (dragging Jen along) and at the end wished I hadnt. Ok dodgy ref'ing non penelty penelty though well saved after watching the game I believe unlike some that the blame lies at Coleys door. I have some thoughts on whats wrong.

There have been comments made about our defence that ships goals like a storm drain ships excess water. What defence? We dont seem to have one! It seems to go awol faster than French and Italian soldiers (not something to be proud of). I believe they have little or no faith in their own ability and skill and as such seem to be disengaded from the game. the first goal was a good example in my opinion as the space left to Wycombe could have held a brass band!!!! A goalie is only as good as the guys in front of him and should be able to rely on them to help him at the critical moment.

When they are caught half way up the pitch by the opposition starting a breakout its as though they are having 40 winks and dont wake up until the opposition has a minimum 5 yard start on em. They dont backtrack, mark, close down, intercept, harass even narrow the angle as they should (if they catch em that is). When this happens its one man trying to keep the ball out of the onion bag and thus losing a goal.

The midfield players have to be able to defend as well as attack yet to me it looks like a red light for stop goes up once the defence gets going!!! This is really bad as the defence like the goalie needs to be confident that they can rely on the midfield for back up and "confining" of possible threats. Just because they are midfield players dosnt meen that the only time they defend is at corners and direct free kicks!!

Another issue I saw with the midfield again in my opinon is the lack of support they give the guys up front. Any attacker needs to know he has support and therefore other options to put the ball in the bag but missing/absent/awol players means there is no plan B. There was too many times that on the occasions we attacked plan be was not even available and the direct approach failed.

Attacking wise the only plan was direct due to lack of suport that should have been there and if it was it was so slow that the relief was intercepted before they could help. No attacker should be allowed to go it alone without suport because thats when we are caught on the break and everyone is having 40 winks. Now the chance to score goalie down opposition defence in disarry a golden chanceto score was lost b because of what was, if applied to the medical profession would be professional incompitance. Itwas like a scene from a Carry On film.

These guys are professional players and as such should be able to read a game, know what their fellow players might do, know what the opposition might do in a given situation. The impression I get is that they didnt have a clue. I wont single players out as it is a team game and therefore the teams responsibility for the resulting debacle. We put eleven players on the grass today not a team. Without communication and understanding we are in a mess.

The club wants to atract people in yet the way that they played will put people off. The loss of punters is money lost to the club which as there is no genie in a lamp, millionare with dosh to burn or a fairy godmother is badly needed. When fans of the older generation start leaving because the game was so bad and not the weather then there are problems. The same was true of fans who are every and all matchers. For 15 plus years I have, when I could, done a 430+ mile round trip to watch my team. Todays game makes me want to reconsider that and I can understand why even locals are having second thoughts.

Heads are down, confidence low, self belief lacking even the possibility of players being angry with each other but what is missing? Well maybe a bit of the bulldog spirit that was shown in the film Zulu is what is needed. Even a bit of the "never say die" attitude might help. Any team that can keep its spirits up even when they lose can win the next match because even in defeat positves can be taken from it to help in the next match.

I dont want my original belief that they entered the league and became one of the "92" to start ringing true.


Ok enough said for now.

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After todays debacle I firmly believe that each and every Stanley fan would be entitled to sue under the Mis-sale of Goods Act..........Not fit for purpose :mad::mad:

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Well old fella, that coming from you can only mean it was worse than it sounded...

What's needed folks, does the club have ears,do they care......

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Yes, much, much worse. No plan, no direction, too many square pegs in round holes and no nouse whatsoever.
Despite some underwhelming performances, it was too bad to just blame the players. :(

I was left as bemused at the end, as Roberts and Webb looked before the match.

Geoff Boycott was once asked about cricket being a team game, "No, it's not! It's eleven individuals", he retorted. Looked like it, today.

OK, Chester (next Sat.) have lost their last 4 home games, without scoring, only 2 points from last 9 games. Neither side will have any confidence, so a week's hard work could see us getting 3 points.

I've talked myself into going, I suppose; not bad, after nearly walking out before the final whistle for the first time in my life, less than 12 hours ago.

(Just got this uneasy feeling that something major will happen in the meantime, hope not.)

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I shall be there saturday too, a must win match really now isnt it. I remember this feeling last year when we went ten games without a win.We have been poor of late but then we have played four teams who are all in the top end of the table and challenging for promotion,not that i'm making excuses for the dire performances mind you.Lets get to chester and depress there lot that little bit more by beating them in a 1-o bore that will do me .

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I think the biggest dissapointment from my own point of you yesterday was the save from Bav's yesterday to keep it at 1-0, I thought great that is now going to be the turning point not only for this game but also to kick start our season by galvanising the squad and thinking hey we are not out of this game and can go on and get something out of it.:confused:
I still think we are good enough to stay up and still believe we can improve on last years league position but somehow that self belief has to be instilled into the players. how about them spending some time with the kids at the Centre of Excellence and really getting back to basics which might encourage a bit of team building and some fun into prcoceedings as well as the kids getting a chance to meet their heroes and also doing some good Google Page Ranking work for the Club:)

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i dont want to say anything about yesterday:(

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At least the end of season run in will be exciting.
Just before christmas, it looked like we would be playing for mid table boredom.

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Yes the last 6 games are against Barnet, and 5 teams currently below us, finishing with Wrexham and Bury.

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What, all of 'em? :D

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Yes, the rest of the sentence was a typo. :tongueout

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Spug has just said - the snow you cleared off the pitch yesterday - why didnt you build a snow wall round the 6 yard box to help the defence?

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:Dhealth and safety,because i fell over it:D

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how much is it to get into the diva staduim:confused:

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Given your diva status yesterday I think you should get in for nowt :D

The Vaughan

(East), Liversage (West) and APC Overnight (Away) Stands

Adults (seated) £16.00
Concession (seated) £11.00

Under 16 (seated) £ 5.00

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From recollection its not the getting in that's the problem its the getting back off the industrial estate on to the main road.

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I've heard of being kept back until the home fans have left, but this is ridiculous! Do you think they'll serve breakfast in the morning? :D

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16 squid theyre having a laugh then they charge 3squid for parking going to give it a miss sticking to my principles by avoiding rip-off merchants all we are doing is paying for their stadium...:(....

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whats the stewards like there are they like the stockport nazis:confused:do they force you to sit n things

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I hope not - it's standing in the away end!

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#

It was standing behind the goal last season, seating at the sides.
According to the football ground guide, it's £14 to stand and £16 to sit.

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How come they never put details on the fishy site for away matches ? I know the club don't make anything from an away game unless they sell tickets in advance ( for which they get a small commision ) but it's odd not to see any details at all.

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Chester Away,

Fairly sure, will do a quick search and a phone call tomorrow, that Chester have converted their away stand to ALL SEATER.

That way they increase revenue and potentially reduce away crowd issues!!:)

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theyve made it all seater in the liversage stand thats for the away supporters it says

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Looks like you are right, taken from the aforementioned Internet Grounds Guide;

In an unusual move the Club have made the away terrace at the ground all seated (is this so that they can charge away fans more?). This means that for most games away fans are allocated the whole of the APC Overnight South Stand and part of the Liversage West Stand. In total around 1,200 places are available, with just under 800 in the South Stand and the remainder in the West. The Shire Foods Chicken Balti Pieis available inside the stadium. Normally a friendly, relaxed day out and a good atmosphere can be created inside.

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Do I not like that!! :mad:

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with you on that wynonie, was looking forward to Saturday as I don't get to as many away matches as I would like...but I hate flippin sitting at footy!!:(

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I stayed at the end to clap - but that was mainly just for Mullers, who gave 110% AGAIN. If only we had 11 of him....:rolleyes:

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Looks like the Bury board were reading the views of one young lady on Saturday :)

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Bury Knill ..... has a familiar ring to it, sadly not against us. :(

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maybe one of the problems for the fans is a lack of a player to believe in.
Ok, Mullin gives 100% - but up front by himself and with little support, the guy is struggling.

We need someone exciting who can turn a game. Are things perfectly in place for Boco to return and be the hero?

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I pray I am right! but if youre looking for a hero mannix could be the one!

Could even be captain before end of season!
the lad is a born winner!!

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Recall Liverpool site last time we signed him on loan saying that if you put him in your midfield he would run it for you.

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He didn't play for a year and then only played 15 games in Norway last year. I'm not expecting miracles.

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A midfield ball winner is good!
But without an out and out striker, we are going nowhere fast:confused:

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Personally, I couldn't leave on Saturday, but I wished I could. Why did we leave our best central defenders out of the 16? Roberts and Webb together have played really well, but they seem to be taking the flak for the inability of the rest of the team. For me the starting 11 against Chester should be:
Arthur (I believe he is ready), Richardson, Webb, Roberts and Edwards, Boco (assuming he is fit), Craney, Mannix (assuming we have international clearance) and Todd (he and Boco to switch wings when necessary), Mullin and McGivern up front (again why is he not playing. Subs: Thomas (didn't impress me that much) Fearon/Dunbavin, Whalley, Harris and Doughty. what do others think?

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Interesting - but Rommy looked an overweight stroller to me in the 2 games I saw on TV. I would put Thomas in his place as he looked pretty nifty and capable of getting up and down the pitch. But then again no place for Proccy and what about the 2 young lads................?

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The big problem with Webb, Edwards and Roberts is that they have no pace. Richardson isn't the quickest, but he is better than the others. If you play all those together you are always going to be vulnerable to pace, which is why I think Coleman kept playing Williams. Rocky isn't the best, but he has been quick enough to get back when the defence has been split apart.

Coleman now has the problem of playing inexperienced, but more pacey defenders, or more experienced, but slower players. On Saturday he tried to balance the two by playing Branch and Thomas. It didn't really work.

I'm not Cav's biggest fan, but when he's fit he does have more pace than Edwards and he doesn't allow many to pass him on the outside. I think we lack pace throughout the team, which has cost us so many times. Wycombe had tonnes of pace and that's why it often looked like men against boys.