How do they do it???
 

It looks that Brentford, like Lincoln, are another team who 'didn't get near our goal!'...yet still managed to score three goals agaimst 'the Reds'.

If we could only learn the secret behind this sneaky way of getting three points...THEN Rob Heys' vision of the team being 'probably being involved in the play-offs' might become a reality!.

Does JC know of these tactics?...it would seem that every Manager with FOOTBALL LEAGUE know-how does!....and they drop them on us...from a great height!.

If these unusually sarcastic remarks from me sound critical of those training the Red's towards becoming a little bit more successful, it is only the result of hearing about another POINT-LESS and seemingly pointless trip to the Metropolis.

But we must be optimistic......they WILL 'turn it round!'....next Saturday ?

PLEASE !

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The main difference is that our attackers don't play against our defense every week. We have to score at least 3 times to get anything from most games, because we'll always concede.

So many of us have been screaming the same thing for years. We can't defend!!! Nothing ever changes and I doubt it ever will in the current climate.

To quote the eternal Jeff, "If we had a defence..........."

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I think that both Jeff and yourself have got it right!...
but doesn't it get you frustrated though...when you know that 'the Reds' in their present guise are definately NOT going to score three times!.

Is there anyone with an answer to this dilemma??

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yes my answer is get rid of coleman for someone who knows this league .

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That is?...

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yes thats it . why not ?

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At this stage of the season, changing the manager is a silly suggestion. If we survive (it's not looking good, is it?), then the end of the season is the time to make such changes.

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i disagree , we need fresh ideas now or at least some1 in who can help coleman , as long as its not bry robson or kidd

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The important thing.....looking at today's results, is that all those teams around us DO seem to be getting it right...our 'cushion' is wearing thin and time is definately not on our side. If there is a fix..it's got to be a quick and permanent one !

Has 'Depechemode' got a more detailed strategy in mind, other than his simplistic 'Get rid of Coleman!' routine?

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Are you serious?? Who do you think the club would/could get to replace Coleman? How much money do you think is available?

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so your saying its pointless getting any 1 in because we have ****** all cash ? these always money about if we want to stay in this league . how do you thin k we got crainey ? 300 COKE TOP LIDS !

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I know exactly how we got Craney, but I wouldn't go posting it on here.

Anyway, answer my question. Who do you think we would get in if Coleman was sacked? Let's see your list.

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oi monkey man why do you bother answering depressed toad you should know better

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if I remember rightly..Jeff has been saying since the NW counties league that the defence needs looking at............build from the back I can handle a few 0 -0 results....and to be fair Jeff sees almost all of the matches ( pre season jollies in spain excepted )

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He's one of a kind alright. http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1986/cuckooer3.gif

I'm still waiting to hear what his answer is. :D

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:confused:Sorry DD...(and TM for dropping you in it!)....My original posting was intended to stimulate an interesting thread for all concerned.....other than
one merely surrounding our Manager and his capabilities ....but all I've done is allow HIM to sound off again.....

TIME FOR A NEW THREAD ???

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Maybe it will be about the way his Xbox 360 hates him and keeps making him play 'barcalona' !!!!!

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Hi Billy.....

Glad you could make it!....We're all waiting for DM's CONSIDERED opinion in regard to
the apparent weaknesses in the Stanley's defensive system...

A defensive coach ( is that one who is not always willing to give an answer?)...
A DEFENCE Coach seems to be his latest offering....But isn't that the Manager and his Assistant's job anyway ?..

As Eric (not THE Eric!) would say...'We can't afford owt better' so let 'em get on wi it'
Am I a defeatist, or should we give JC & JB 'til the end of the Season..
I can't see what point there is anyway in changing a Manager at this stage in the
Season!....

OR IS THERE ANOTHER WAY ??????.......ON STANLEY!.......ON!!.

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if we finish higher than last year - its still progress.

as bad as it is, JC is still the answer until abramovich turns up.

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Glad we are in agreement Dav...and before Depechemode :ptongue: starts a whole new'Sack Coleman' crusade.....Let's get a new thread!!!.


ON STANLEY!...ON !!!

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:thumbsup:What about Kenny Arthur picking the defence? He should know who the best defenders are at the club and what formation to play! Although for the next game make sure someone is on the back post for a corner.

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spot on davo, n how many managers can boast doin that for the years coleman has?

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How many times could we have said that!!??:eek::eek::eek:

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Someone WAS on the post, unfortunately it was the wrong post!..and it seems that this was another example of the 'switching'off' which has caused the many defensive problems, allowed inferior teams to score easy goals against the Reds, and led the Club to it's frightening 'goals-against' situation.

Would a Psychological Coach be of more value than someone merely employed
in the role of 'Defence Coach'...not only would this brighten-up the on-field application of the players, but might also provide the proper motivational
therapy which, on ocasion,has seemed to be absent in the squad!

APPLICATION + MOTIVATION = SUCCESS & SATISFACTION.

JC & JB MUST STAY...A CLEARING OUT AT THIS JUNCTURE
WOULD BE DISASTROUS ....even if it would satisfy some of those
looking for Blood!....KEEP THE FAITH!!!

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we had a shrink the year we accidentally won the Conference ...........

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For Brentford's second goal, from a coner, Kenny Arthur was shouting for someone to mark the back post, nobody would do it - probably not wanting to upset Coley who has instructed them not to mark the back post. The ball went to the back post and into the net. If someone had been marking the back post they probably wouldn't have scored and we would have gone in level at half time. As No.9 Dream says, for years I have been saying things like 'If we had a defence we would be dangerous' and I used to get slagged off for saying it, it's only now that people are starting to agree with me.

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And of course you are right on the mark Jeff...all I'm suggesting in my rather tongue-in-cheek posting regarding the addition of a Sports Psychologist to the coaching staff ( once agan!)...is that the team are not that far away from being one that can be moderately successful in the league...and with additional application....as in 'back-post marking and covering'...that they can achieve this success!.

But it seems these weaknessess need to be addressed by someone who
can not only spot them in the first place..but also make the correct moves to rectify them.

The whole team..and perhaps the Managers too!...might benefit from a bit of accurate Diagnosis and resultanr treatment !!


Then Jeff...We might be dangerous once again....the FES might become 'the Fortress'...and everyone would be satisfied!...BUT then we'd have nothing to write about!!

MORE 'RED-COLOURED SPECS.......AGAIN !!!...ON STANLEY...ON!!!!!

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brentford was the first time i have seen stanley this season.... and imho the main difference between the teams was confidence.... brentford looked like a team on the up stanley looked like a team in need of a couple of wins and a positive attitude along with that little bit of luck that winning teams get.
a couple of great moves in the first half could have put us 2 up before brentford started especially the shot that rattled the bar..... when you are winning those go in.
the defence look indecisive... like they want to be on the back post but dont want a row with JC if they do??? aswad looks class tho some very well timed tackles.
cant see us going down but its going to be roller coaster from now til the end of the season... ON STANLEY ON

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I've only been able to get to a handful of games this season but one thing that strikes me is that the opposition generally seem fitter and stronger. Perhaps a fitness coach is needed.

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Fitter and stronger between the Ears..and in the Heart ?......isn't that where everyone seems to think the weaknesses lie as far as 'the Reds' are concerned !!.....So who is going to motivate them to find greater inner strength and the will to WIN ?...Eric?..JC?...JB....or ?

And if I've opened the door for Depechemode again !....... Sorry!.

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"And if I've opened the door for Depechemode again !....... Sorry!.[/quote]

Don't worry, my negative-ometer is well and truly tuned to his wavelength !:p

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Don't worry, my negative-ometer is well and truly tuned to his wavelength !:p[/quote]

Thanks LO !....I think that this thread has just about out-distanced it's usefulness anyway...

Perhaps we can all seek another logical, rather than knee-jerk examination regarding 'the Reds'...and their problems...which, if the last two matches are to be taken into consideration, are not as serious as we have all been thinking!....

But I am in agreement with you....destructive and non-sensical ranting won't get us anywhere....or make for interesting visits to the Forum.

Keep up the vigilance!!!.........and ON STANLEY...ON!!!!!! http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...ons/icon10.gif

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I hope you're not going to stop freedom of speech (or typing)?;)

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Wouldn't dream of it but I draw the line at banal ranting !;)

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I know some of the threads can be boring but currently if anyone posts anything negative the thread is closed down. This IMHO is not good for the forum the way it's going there will be quite a few, me included who will not be allowed to post. Not everyone on this forum thinks the sun shines out of Eric and Coleys arse and I feel negative views should be allowed, if not I will be out of here and looking for somewhere else to release the stress of watching Stanley.

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No probs with that , balanced views make for a happy forum and everyone is entitled to their opinions. It just needs a bit of pruning when the same person says the same thing over and over in about 6 different threads !:cool:

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agreed, opinions are fine but the same thing over and over is weary.

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That's not exactly true is it, you closed a thread started by Jesus_was_A_red_ and depechemode never even made a post in it.:rolleyes:

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It wasn't just a thread ,it was a poll and a negative one at that.
Constructive criticism seems to be the way forward not out an out " oh my God it's all gone wrong, let's sack everyone !" mentality. The poll didn't give the option of " If Stanley win 5 nil this Saturday will everyone be happy again? " did it? No, thought not.:rolleyes:

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I really don't like the way this is going, for one it was a members poll not yours Lindsay and if people wanted to vote thats what it was there for whether it was negative or not. This is a forum and open to everyone as long as they keep to the rules and it shouldn't matter if their posts are constructive or just plain negative it should not be up to you to stop them them putting over their point of view.:confused:

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Point taken, it just seems like there is far too much negativity on here at the moment, but if folk want to respond to these things I guess it's up to them.:rolleyes:

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As Jeff posted recently it's not negativity it's just being realistic.:)

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so are we only able to post threads reading " what a wonderful manager coleman is " ? wonder if we all felt the same about the ex england manager SM

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The late England Manager had:-

1)...A lovely haircut! 2)..A lovely girl-friend...3.) A lovely way with Umbrellas!...but , as all Football Managers have, did have a few shortcomings as well!...

Our Manager does have his limitations...that seems to be quite obvious from what you're ALWAYS telling us!...but presently he is the only one who is in the position to do anything about the playing situation at the FES!

So lets have a thread from you which accepts this position, and makes some positive suggestions as to how a more acceptable performance from the team can be derived...

Then, (as I have never done!,)...No-one would need to criticize your rather
'blinkered' view of what is happening at the FES....or worse still. lock one ore more of your threads.

KEEP POSTING............I'M LISTENING !.

ON STANLEY!.......ON !!

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Im hanging fire on any assumptions with the management & deal with that on game basis but as i've learnt recently is that u cant blame ONE person as fault, i blamed Rocky for our defense - granted he isn't up to scratch on his own merits but still thought he let the side down!! Hey-ho he hasn't been playing lately & we're still very below par, so now have to look for someone else to blame, most people's stance is at Coley - to a point maybe so but i dont shed the whole blame on him so not joining the bandwagon as of yet, coley can wipe his brow with releif for a bit hehehehe:D

So whats the problem??? Well simply the problem runs a lot wider & deeper than 1 or 2 people that are footing the brunt!! People, Stanley are a team [of more than a few people] - yes? erm well not on the pitch we dont seem to be yet & possibley even off pitch, something has knocked the potential & team bonding down - thats plainly evident before-during-after matches:(. Solution maybe a suggestion is a team building course, sounds laughable but many companies do it at various levels - have a team buildng short break!! A TEAM is essential & something thats noticably disappeared over the months without a TEAM how can tactics work effectively ie passing, reading the play etc between players, also i think reason for players leaving too & bringing in new players in when team morale is down altho can help but makes it very hard for them too ie Aswad.

Im not of answers its just something i have noticed that is very different from the side we had last year or previous seasons, where morale & team play is definately lacking but is also now filtering to the supporters which is worrying. Its too late in the day to sword the manangement at this stage & try to least get to the end of season - hopefully in league 2 & then review then before next season, as no management at all would be more detrimental now & hope to god coley can turn it around in the next few months, its upto him to prove that but atm we need our whole team effort working.

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With Your Pleas For A 'team Bonding' And My Suggestion That A Sports Psychologist Might Help To Motivate And Sharpen Up The Team's Application Towards What Is Really Needed On The Pitch....not Only Are We Back To A Thread Which Has A Bit More Future, But A Vision Of A Club That Is Going Somewhere And Is Worthy Of The Support Of all It's Fans

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As at previous times on this messageboard it's gone a bit pear shaped. Factions, imagined or real, have been castigated, smeared, maliciously misinterpreted, even lumped together as one big faction, or clique.

There have been generous responses from people who probably now wish they'd not wasted their time. But it bugs me why some people bang on with a very narrow point, repetition isn't arguement, and just alienates people, as has become apparent.

Then I heard this on the radio, " Any small sub-group is going to see itself as the saving remnant, it's how sub-groups work." :idea:

Maybe, I was missing the blindingly obvious in the first place.

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[quote=Oggy;533621]A
Then I heard this on the radio, " Any small sub-group is going to see itself as the saving remnant, it's how sub-groups work." :idea:

Maybe, I was missing the blindingly obvious in the first place.[/quot

I somehow think this may be a 'whoosh' for the likes of DM!!!!

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just like whalley pubs again

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Can someone please enlighten me as to what this means?

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Reading between the lines all three pubs in Whalley have shunned depechemode, don't know why?

Or maybe he means the Crown, Eric Whalley's Pub?

Sorry, don't know. :confused:

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It may be something to do with what he has said before;

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Oh, right, thanks - I think I see now:confused:
A forum is a forum and can't, by it's very nature, be clickie(sic). If the majority happen not to agree with one contributor that's democracy, not anything more sinister. Shoulders and chips come to mind?

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bloody heck - shoulders and chips in one thread, Coley and chips in another! making me feel fat all of a sudden

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Actually, just driven through Whalley, honest, and there was this solitary figure outside the De Lacy Arms.
Made me feel sad, on the other hand I wasn't going to stop. ;)