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...... have gone into administration (again) and taken a 10 point deduction. It hasn't affected us but bloody Morecambe move ever nearer the play-offs!

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was just gonna post that till i saw yours Macca, it just goes to prove how tough it is in the F.L. when the finances/ budget aint managed right, perhaps some here should reflect on that before bitching?;)

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DOWN TO 11TH IN TABLE ON 51 POINTS,

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Too right cashy, its a very harsh business is footy, makes you realise how far we've come:)

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Yes and they play us a week a Saturday

Like Stanley no doubts they'll raise their game for this one but unlike Stanley I think they'll get beaten and onwards & upwards

Could this be our first season finishing above Stanley after gifting em 6 points? THINK SO!

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From what I have read re the situation at Rotherham, I think it is a very brave & honest descision by them particulary as they were still in the hunt for the play offs:)

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i reckon thats 12th mab, Grimsby are 11th with 52 pts

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11TH GRIMSBY WILL MOVE UP A PLACE TO 10TH WHILE ROTHERHAM DROP 5 PLACES:)

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fair enough mate,maths was never me strongest suit.:D

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Still, at least you know where the caps lock is... :D

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And people moan because Eric wont spend money we have'nt got.

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Unlike a certain Ken Bates and Leeds United last season.

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Why is it a brave decision? They can stay in this league & avoid paying their debts - again!
How many times is a club allowed to do this?

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Right on the money, AccyMad! The brave and honest clubs are the ones like Stanley who live within their means.

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I still think to take the 10 point deduction now is a brave & honest thing to do! I don't know if they could have held out till the end of the Season but if they did and then got promoted via the play offs at Wembley with perhaps a cash windfall from doing it to pay off debts, doing it this way is the harder option and more honest approach, Good Luck to Them!

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Rotherham have seen youth coach Mick Priest, groundsman Bill Corby, and Customer Service manager Carol Rockett leave the club.
Priest left for 'personal reasons' while the other two are being made redundant by Administators.
Corby is a three time Groundsman of the Year at the Football League awards.
The Administrator has revealed that the club has a £1.1million playing budget set on 4,500 average gates.
Their average is currently 4,287.

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It boosts Chesterfield's chances of getting the play offs so that they will have all the encouragement they need against Stanley.

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No, the harder option and the honest approach is not to spend money you haven't got, even if that means having a basic ground that other fans sneer at and struggling along with a team who are paid the lowest wages in the football league. Perhaps you wouldn't think Rotherham's approach was so praiseworthy if you were one of the creditors who was set to receive xxp in the £.

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Each to their own!
I know what I mean!

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xxp in the £?

thats one digit more than some offer!!

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Yes and some Millers fans sneered at our ground after their visit. You should have heard them on Radio Sheffield.

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So, everyone sneers at our ground. Even we sneer at our ground. I wouldn't want it any other way! :p:p:p

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Can they afford to sneer having gone into administration for a second time with a partially completed stand?

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And, to be honest, their ground, although bigger than ours, isn't much to write home about!

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Exactly!
People moan that Eric dosen't spend money but at least you are safe in the knowledge that Stanley won't be going into administration.
People can sneer all they like the fact is Stanley have learnt the hard way from past mistakes and strive not to make them again.
Even if Stanley do get relegated back into the conference one day at least there is a club to support.
I don't think it's a brave decision by Rotheram,if they were run properly and didn't try to spend beyond there means they wouldn't be in this mess now simple as.

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The point I am trying to make is more about the timing of the announcement, to take a ten point deduction at this stage when they were in a play off spot is a brave descision, ok they won't get relegated but they are not the first and won't be the last team that goes into administration. I appreciate the comments about Accy and the way it is run which is you cut your cloth accordingly and in this day and age is to be applauded. I think to survive on the gates we get is nothing short of a miracle and full credit to Eric & Everyone at the Club who keep us going forward.

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but yet the timing is also impeccable, just as they reach 61 points, therefore the minus 10 points means they will be safe in this league at 51 points even if they lose their remaining games

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Good point, it's called cheating. The idea of the ten point penalty was to make clubs think about how they are run. Nowadays they are using the rule to cheat. Wonder when the league will start issuing a 20 point penalty.

On the other side of the coin, while Rotherham continue as a business there are probably some companies who will go bust because of their action, the suppliers :mad:

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Not looking too good for Rotherham.

BBC SPORT | Football | My Club | Rotherham Utd | Rotherham United face extinction

Mind you, how many times have we seen this, only for clubs to be given an extension at the 11th hour? If it did happen, we'd lose 3 points.

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IF Rotherham don't find a solution before this deadline and this year's records are explunged ( as Aldershot and Accy previously) we stand to lose 3 points.:mad:

What makes it worse is that Wrexham, Mansfield and Dagenham will lose nothing!:mad:

The points totals ( after the adjustments would be)
Mansfield have 39, Dagenham 43 Notts 43 Chester 43 Macc 45 and Accy 45.

Worst affected would be Rochdale who would lose 6 and Hereford would lose 4.

Mansfield could catch us and their goal difference is better. Also Mansfield and Dagenham are due to play Rotherham. Even if the situation is sorted are the Rotherham players going to be up for the fight?? Have they been paid??

3 points v Barnet is a must tomorrow:)

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:(if we did lose 3 points that would drag us back in the mix!!Oh Great:(

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Dagenham v Mansfield last game of season

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Rotherham have stated that they won't go out of business even if a buy doesn't come forward by the deline today, but even so I don't think Stanley have anything to bother about

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Press Release | Rotherham United | News | Breaking News | Breaking News

it doesn't say so but the club will see out the season as there are only two weeks left.

The hard part for them and any new buyer will be to continue funding the club over the summer without matchday income.

I really do hope they come out of this okay because it is a horrible thing for any fan to have to face, but, and don't take this way, it does annoy me that clubs are given every chance and then some to avoid the death knell when we had to wrap it up over a summat and nowt. If clubs can't balance the books they should face automatic relegation to a league where they can manage the innies and outies of day to day accountancy.

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According to teletext this morning the buyers lined up for Rotherham have pulled out, it says they are on the verge of extinction and could be forced to close immediately,surely they can make it to the end of the season though - here's hoping they do or we lose 3 points and could be dragged right back into the relegation battle.

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Surely, even if this does happen, we'd be safe anyway. We'd be down to 45 points, but Wrexham can only get a maximum of 43 points. But, because the Football League would be one club short, there would only be one club going down. So, we've nothing to worry about...have we?

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this is where common sense should come in. With only one week to go until the end of the season they should be allowed, one way or another to complete their fixtures. If the players won't play cos they haven't been paid then get some local kids in or summat.

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I would think the PFa would pay the players wages but it's the other expenses that would be a problem whereby suppliers have a good idea they wouldn't get paid.

I thought they had around 5 enquiries to buy the club ?

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Apparently they did have 5 bidders but according to Rotherham's website, their administrators have received a demand from the current landlord of the ground that whoever buys the club has to guarantee that he will get certain benefits including free tickets, free advertising, free use of the clubs physio etc whether the club stays at Millmoor or not and this is what has caused the bidders to pull out.

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Wish them well.

They ended our relegation uncertainty earlier than we were able to ourselves.

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Ken Booth? Former chairman? Asset stripping?

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"Rotherham United face immediate closure following an ultimatum from the Millmoor landlords, the Booth family.
They have threatened court action to prevent the sale of the club unless their existing privileges are retained.
Rotherham United's chief operating officer Paul Douglas has told BBC Radio Sheffield their terms are scaring off new owners." from the BBC
BBC SPORT | Football | My Club | Rotherham Utd | Booth threat could close Millers



"The Booths' privileges include Ken Booth as honorary president, two directors box tickets to every away game, four tickets to the Millmoor boardroom and car park, 16 seats in the Millmoor End stand which they can sell on, four FA Cup Final tickets at no cost and the use of the club's physio up to three times a week."
BBC SPORT | Football | My Club | Rotherham Utd | Millers' Russian bidder drops out

How can people be so greedy, this family are only in it for themselves, what about the thousands of genuine fans, who are seeing their club killed off. This is an absolute disgrace.