andy mangan released from bury
 

and the word is he is coming back to sign for you lot, if he does i wish the lad all the best

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I really hope not. Think it would be a backward step .

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i dont think it would be that much as a backward step.he would still be a better sub than the ones weve had this season.

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I agree.

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Shaun Whalley, David Brown & Leighton McGivern released.
Mangan becomes available.
Hardly rocket science.

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He aint even worth having as a sub - we need some ambition, no more re-signing old players.

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We need to sign players we can afford. Mangan would be affordable and would be better than those we've released. He might be perfect, but he fits our budget.

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I totally agree with Sam F. What's the point of having a clean sweep to bring in players who have already been tried and found wanting ? I wish the lad well but he's not good enough. JC described him as an impact player coming off the bench but his loan spell proved that he's not improved to the point where he's any better than those released this week.

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when he was here properly I thought him not good quite enough but a good impact player - he changed games when he came on and that is a fact. But his temperament let him down big time.

Since he has been gone his temperament seems to have improved but when we got him on loan I thought his game had improved a hell of a lot, he had learnt to look up and put his foot on the ball occasionally rather than just running into the terraces.

Maybe a backward step but one that I reckon might pay dividends this time out.

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Pointless I'd rather we had kept McGiven.

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Andy Parrish (right back) has also been released by Bury, much to many fans disapointment, as he was a very promising young lad, with a great attitude and work ethic.
You could do worse than sign him.

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Why we would we want burys old players like Parrish! If hes no good for bury , why would he be good at stanley ! We need a forward player from a high league i reckon, one with experience and goals under his belt! However that is the task JC has to do , but i know he will do it well! :)

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Only if you throw in Andy Bishop as well!!

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The ONLY player JC should be interested in from Bury is Andy Bishop...NOT Mangan that is a backward step...a shame he let David Brown go coz I feel he was asked to play in several positions other than he was used to...and coped well...but STILL didn't get picked later..obviously a clash of personalities with the manager ...no surprise there...I hope Coleman can get a half decent defence this season...Kempson did well...if he becomes available.....the player they want is MICHAEL BOULDING from Mansfield...but I expect a Championship side will snap him up!!

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David Brown was not good enough at this level. I don't think personalities had anything to do with it.... he just wasn't up to the job.

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When Mangan went back to Bury after his loan spell here, Coleman did say that he would try & get him back in the summer and now that he's a freebie I reckon that will happen. Whether he's good enough or not, only time will tell although I did think when he was here that he seemed to have improved his game. Maybe get him on non-contract terms to start with & see how he does, that way there's nowt lost if he doesn't work out.

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Hear hear!
Mangan would be a good addition to the squad.

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David Brown had the demon job, he was the club PFA rep, just like welchy was last season!!!

To be honest I think we have been too sentimental about certain players, many proved to be not quite good enough for this division last season, yet several were kept on. Finally Coley is facing up to the fact that at this level you have to be ruthless and cannot afford to carry players. Its all part of his and the clubs learning curve. The steep bit is still to come though in trying to get the caliber of player needed to take us forward, hopefully Coley will hit the ground running on this one.

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if we resign mangan it would be a joke.

He brings NOTHING to the team

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Michael Boulding isn't going to be happy in the Conf - well worth our management asking the question d'ya think ?

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We've had this before Craney cost us virtually nothing to get back from Swansea so the question is "Is Craney worth virtually nothing", the answer off his form over the last two months is "YES". ;)

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The Craney transfer fee is very misleading. It made people think that the club has/had money to spare.

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True.
Some people need to realise that we're not going to get an Aaron McLean. We have no money!
Mangan was definitely a better player when he came back on loan. He's young enough to improve. Why not sign him?

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his gd n got loadza past n can score goalz but not dat much 2 get in 2 r accy team

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Translate please

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i think he means he is a good player and has got good pace can score goals but not much to get into our accy team

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managan wouldnt be so much a step backward - just not a step forward either.
He is better than McGivern.

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Not sure that Mangy is better than Leighton but he's a damn sight more likely to get in the team :)

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Stanley have taken a big step forward by releasing so many players. They've been tried in this league and we've just about survived. Now we need to sign 6 or 7 players that are better quality than those that have gone. Otherwise we'll be finsihng bottom half every year until the inevitable. Is Mangan better quality than Harris or Brown or Mannix? I don't think so . Signing Mangan would be a backward step.

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as my fellow Bury supporter in elton white pointed out we have released andy parrish he is a good player who was unfortunate to have his contract run out at the wrong time we have 4 right backs at the club and he is the only one out of contract. why would you want players from Bury? you say that in a derogatory way yet we did finish above stanley and one of the form teams of the division. yet some on here are interested in boulding who's team was relegated! he has interest in him from most l2 and l1 clubs and some championship clubs so what makes you think he would choose stanley or Bury for that matter!

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you only just finished above us and that was after a really good run in that will distort your fans view of the season.

Out of your best XI players there will no doubt be players who are better in their position than what we have. The point made was that if they are not good enough for your first team then they shouldn't be good neough for ours. There are exceptions of course because many on here feel that some of our players weren't given a fair crack and it is of course open to interpretation as to whether one of your players suits our style of play better than yours and vice versa.

We have had Andy Mangan here before and he wasn't a first team player in the Conference so people assume that he couldn't be that in League 2. As far as Parrish is concerned we will probably never know - but if he can't get in your team because there are 3 in front of him then, on paper, he should struggle to do the same here.

ps. Can we have Bishop then or not?

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and as far as Boulding is concerned he is one of those players that does not need the income particularly as he is supposed to be minted from off the field activities. That sort of player will choose somewhere that he would be comfortable, can command a regular place, is appreciated, not too far to travel, can make accomodations for his various off-field activities and above all somewhere that he feels he could make a difference. Provided that the offers on the table aren't pi$$ takes like 50p a week then why wouldn't we be in with a shout?

Second thoughts the last line kind of answers itself :D

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we only just finished above you but we only had our manager since feb in which time playing the right way we were the third best team in the league according to form! andy parrish was a part of that team. i do have a soft spot for stanley as i live in accy therefore i want the best for them apart from when they play Bury! that is why i agreed with elton white about parrish as i do believe he is a good defender and legendary for his step overs!

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Andy Mangan was stood on the Coppice End in the middle of the Bury Fans at our final game this last season. He looks younger every time I see him!!:cool:

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andy was crap should fade into non league .

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Observer today.

"the reds chief says he doesn't expect striker Andy Mangan to return to the club and that he knows nothing about the link with Grazioli."

he goes on to say taht if some players hadn't been under contract still then they would have gone also in the big clear out.

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colemans not under contract so why doesnt he clear off out ! nah lets hope mistakes are learnt from and not bring our old boys back . would like to see kemps back though

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who would of that be than, leam, cav, rocky, mullin, bavs....

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Dropping Andy was no reflection on the lads talent, he was a victim of the new system. He's a very good player, and to tag him as a reject is very harsh. Whoever signs Parrish in the summer will not regret it. He's a solid defender who's great at the old overlap and sticks in a decent cross.

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He's off to Forest Green...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/7410625.stm

...a bit of a step down for him.

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Probably about Mangy's level to be honest, good luck to the lad - must admit I thought he might have been off over the water to Sligo to meet up with his old mate Danny Ventre.

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You sure about that???...not what I've heard ..