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stanley convert 10-07-2008 15:29

Luton town FC
 
Just seen on bcc sport website Luton to start next season with 30 point deduction could only be one relegation spot to fight over!!!!!!!

Tin Monkey 10-07-2008 15:35

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Could still go to us if we don't meet the ground requirements. ;)

MikeA 10-07-2008 15:54

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There's more about Luton's points deduction and about Rotherham and Bournemouth's position on the Football League website: http://www.football-league.co.uk/pag...341988,00.html.

slerpy 10-07-2008 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 604819)
There's more about Luton's points deduction and about Rotherham and Bournemouth's position on the Football League website: http://www.football-league.co.uk/pag...341988,00.html.

On the above site the Football League mention a 20 points deduct but teletext mentions a 30 points deduct ! Which is right ? Was ther a previous 10 point deduct?

slerpy 10-07-2008 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slerpy (Post 604833)
On the above site the Football League mention a 20 points deduct but teletext mentions a 30 points deduct ! Which is right ? Was ther a previous 10 point deduct?

Yep ! the thirty is right ! I cannot see the Hatters staying up with such a handicap.

lancsdave 10-07-2008 16:39

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The other ten points was given weeks ago for the issues they had regarding illegal dealings with agents.

maccawozzagod 10-07-2008 17:23

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I would expect that they will probably run concurrently. A 30 point deduction would pretty much relegate them immediately so would they not tak ethe view that we are down regardless so lets just let 15 kids play? etc etc and for example only. They may as well save on wages and put it towards next seasons Conference campaign

lancsdave 10-07-2008 17:27

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Well the league table makes interesting reading for you lot. Long way between top and bottom :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...es/default.stm

depechemode 10-07-2008 18:35

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dont think you be happy till we are in conf again tin chimp

mab 10-07-2008 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 604814)
Could still go to us if we don't meet the ground requirements. ;)

:) Will we wont we im sure we will and with a new stand built once everthink is sorted and funding is in place :)

Outback Ozzy 11-07-2008 19:17

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Got to say, I think Jimmy Bell has put both feet in it in tonights Evening Telegraph. Very crass comments that the club could well do without, especially when you consider what happened to Stanley in 1962. Sorry JB but you made a mistake with those.http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sp...nts__cushion_/

Kiwi John 11-07-2008 19:30

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Couldn't agree more with you OUTBACK..we can think that (having a 'cushion') but to say so publicly?-very immature me thinks. I think Jimmy probably regrets saying it now.

Haggis316 11-07-2008 20:11

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For anyone thinking of buying a season ticket the thought we might need such a cushion might not be the greatest encouragement to pay up hard earned cash.

In any event we need a new stand to stay up ourselves and there is another relegation place. We do not know what if any points deduction Rotherham or Bournemouth may get.

Got to say that the obstacles Rotherham look to face before any start to the season look extremely daunting.

Tin Monkey 11-07-2008 20:22

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Whilst Bell is out of order making public his views, I find it hard to have much sympathy for Luton. They've been over-spending for years, trying to achieve successes on the pitch and now they are facing the consequences of doing that. Three administrations in 10 years says it all. Other clubs have had to struggle year in and year out for any success they may or may not have had. What makes Luton so special?

What goes around, comes around.

mab 11-07-2008 21:06

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Oop's ...some Quotes ffom the telegraph Banquo, Milton Keynes says...
11:51am Fri 11 Jul 08
Really great to see solidarity between clubs. When Accrington next face going bust - Us Luton fans will you remind you of the comments made above. It is a sad state of affairs that Jimmy Bell takes pleasure in another clubs misfortune.
Really great to see solidarity between clubs. When Accrington next face going bust - Us Luton fans will you remind you of the comments made above. It is a sad state of affairs that Jimmy Bell takes pleasure in another clubs misfortune.



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razorsharp1, Luton says...
12:14pm Fri 11 Jul 08
I have to echo the previous comment. It is sad to see that Jimmy Bell has the same narrow-minded mentality as Mawhinney. This could be any number of clubs in the FL, including Accrington.

Lower league football needs each other to survive the big guns and cronies that make up the top 4 club pact currently driving the game out of recognisable exisitence.

I wonder if Jimmy Bell reads this and if he, or the club, would care to re-comment on his comments?
I have to echo the previous comment. It is sad to see that Jimmy Bell has the same narrow-minded mentality as Mawhinney. This could be any number of clubs in the FL, including Accrington.

Lower league football needs each other to survive the big guns and cronies that make up the top 4 club pact currently driving the game out of recognisable exisitence.

I wonder if Jimmy Bell reads this and if he, or the club, would care to re-comment on his comments?



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remember 1962, bolton says...
3:17pm Fri 11 Jul 08
I can't understand such a crass statement coming from one of our senior management team, imagine how the poor fans of Luton must feel (remember we have been there)what must Luton think of our once great club with comments like these, i really hope Eric disciplines & fines him or even better sacks this idiot, i really feel ashamed to be associated with the club at this point in time.
I can't understand such a crass statement coming from one of our senior management team, imagine how the poor fans of Luton must feel (remember we have been there)what must Luton think of our once great club with comments like these, i really hope Eric disciplines & fines him or even better sacks this idiot, i really feel ashamed to be associated with the club at this point in time.



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remember 1962, bolton says...
3:36pm Fri 11 Jul 08
PS. I hope and prey the betting scandal episode doesn't rear its ugly head in the non too distant future and ends up with a huge points deduction if we are found to have been a little naughty - just a thought!
PS. I hope and prey the betting scandal episode doesn't rear its ugly head in the non too distant future and ends up with a huge points deduction if we are found to have been a little naughty - just a thought!



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Gaunty, Luton says...
9:51pm Fri 11 Jul 08
I just hope, Bell, that ASFC's chairman takes the fan above's advice, sacks you and that you never work in football again.

Bagpuss 11-07-2008 21:42

Re: Luton town FC
 
Says it all really, Bell you're a big mouthed dickhead, lets keep our thoughts private.

Grimps 11-07-2008 22:28

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i hope someone sack the big man now :eek:

yonmon 11-07-2008 22:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 605417)
For anyone thinking of buying a season ticket the thought we might need such a cushion might not be the greatest encouragement to pay up hard earned cash.

In any event we need a new stand to stay up ourselves and there is another relegation place. We do not know what if any points deduction Rotherham or Bournemouth may get.

Got to say that the obstacles Rotherham look to face before any start to the season look extremely daunting.



Latest on Luton/Rotherham/Bournemouth from The Football League on :-
http://www.football-league.co.uk/pag...341988,00.html

Vairy interestink ???
:hesoff:

MCR ADIM 12-07-2008 00:00

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Why sack him just becuase of the things he said we all make mistakes its about learning from the mistakes if he does read the forum than he knows he will have to win some the fans support back (not mine becuase i respect him and stuff already) but who else is going to work that well with coley,only signed 2 new players, with one maybe leaving hopefull not as i like him alot, just forget what he said look foward to a good season in league two, getting a higher position than last year scoring more goals, letting in less having a top defence, more singing on the clayton end

Tin Monkey 12-07-2008 05:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 605498)
i hope someone sack the big man now :eek:

A very silly comment.

cashman 12-07-2008 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 605397)
Couldn't agree more with you OUTBACK..we can think that (having a 'cushion') but to say so publicly?-very immature me thinks. I think Jimmy probably regrets saying it now.

some things are best unsaid, this is a shoot yerself in head comment.:rolleyes: again though its the ordinary fan that suffers, more suitable would be punishment big time of the people that put these clubs in such a position.

Grimps 12-07-2008 16:35

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myself i would not speek like that about a team. if some one said that about us we be **** off . that that :cool:

LongLostSon 14-07-2008 17:39

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Just a word of caution - what we don't know was how the reporter framed the question and how much of Jimmy's answer got printed. I stopped buying papers nearly 20 years back when I saw concrete evidence of a journalist manipulating an interview with someone to produce a story when there wasn't one there for real.May be Jimmy did respond with the obvious that any clubs with a deduction give the rest a comfort zone.Doesn't mean he likes the League's decision anymore than any true football fan.I hope Luton appeal and it would be nice to see Stanley and others support such appeal.

Alvin the chipmunk 14-07-2008 18:36

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Accrington Stanley owed money in 1962 and ended up...well we all know how they ended up...but these days clubs like Luton can merely cheat their way into staying alive via administration. It's good to see the FL finally clamping down on this practice.

Although that said, I do also feel for the true Luton fans - after all its not their fault the board cant manage to at least break even, even with a trip to the Kop last season.

DAV007 14-07-2008 21:52

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to be fair to jimmy - liberal journalism could have been used.

Jesus_was_A_red_ 15-07-2008 14:55

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Confirmed today Luton WILL start with a 30 point deduction. 10 wins to get to 0pts.

maccawozzagod 15-07-2008 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LongLostSon (Post 606451)
what we don't know was how the reporter framed the question and how much of Jimmy's answer got printed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 606723)
liberal journalism could have been used.

it was Jimmys weekly column. I understand that people who have columns send an article with however many words max and that is what gets printed. They would only edit for space reasons.

I was flabberghasted when I read the article but 'I knew what he meant'. He has only said what the rest of the league is thinking but he didn't word it very well.

maccawozzagod 15-07-2008 16:36

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as fro the points deduction I thought the 10 point from the FA was very harsh in lieu of the circumstances. I also thought the 20 was ridiculous but hadn't realised that it was their third administration in 10 years. Clubs are going to have to learn to keep their house in order because its unfair on the rest - especially clubs like us that have nothing to even borrow against.

caretaker 15-07-2008 19:18

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Is this the same Luton Town that banned away supporters a few years back ?, Is this the
same Luton Town that introduced ID cards for Home fans,?is this the same Luton Town Margaret thatcher held up as the future for all football clubs.?Save your tears you bunch of cissies,they have got of lightley.

yonmon 15-07-2008 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 606723)
to be fair to jimmy - liberal journalism could have been used.



And to be fair 'the Reds' should'nt, and I reckon, will not have to rely on the default of Luton Town, and possibly Rotherham and Bournemouth, to retain their Football League status !. Having acquired the necessary nous and experience from the battles of the last two seasons, the Management and Players should, and I believe will give a better account of themselves in 2008/9.

We shouldn't really be too concerned with the problems surrounding other clubs...just with getting behind OUR
team, and remembering what they and we stand for!!.

'ON STANLEY ON !!'

'What me worry '...not about Luton Town I dont!!


caretaker 16-07-2008 06:11

Re: Luton town FC
 
Well Said Yonmon

DAV007 16-07-2008 17:42

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Luton only fills one of the relegation places - lets hope exeter have a stinker and fill the other, as our squad is not the biggest for next season.
4 or 5 injurys and suspensions and we are in trouble.

JEFF 17-07-2008 08:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 607681)
Luton only fills one of the relegation places - lets hope exeter have a stinker and fill the other, as our squad is not the biggest for next season.
4 or 5 injurys and suspensions and we are in trouble.

I don't think that anybody knows what our squad is for next season. If you have inside information and know the squad for next season please let everybody else know.

Revived Red 17-07-2008 09:26

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I'm starting to get a bit confused now - it must be my age. Am I not correct in thinking that Luton's predicament is irrelevant to us if we fail to make the necessary ground improvements?

yonmon 17-07-2008 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 608001)
I'm starting to get a bit confused now - it must be my age. Am I not correct in thinking that Luton's predicament is irrelevant to us if we fail to make the necessary ground improvements?



No need to be confused Red..It's my biggest worry as well !!...but I don't like keep bringing it up in case the quandary begins to depress everyone!!.
Anyway, from his postings, Depechemode appears to have the matter well in hand....so not to worry too much!!.

'What me worry ??'...only because any news about the squad for 2008/9..and those other factors surrounding 'the Reds' which cause us such concern...ISN'T VERY FORTHCOMING !!.

ukcowboy 17-07-2008 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 608009)

No need to be confused Red..It's my biggest worry as well !!...but I don't like keep bringing it up in case the quandary begins to depress everyone!!.
Anyway, from his postings, Depechemode appears to have the matter well in hand....so not to worry too much!!.

'What me worry ??'...only because any news about the squad for 2008/9..and those other factors surrounding 'the Reds' which cause us such concern...ISN'T VERY FORTHCOMING !!.

My dear Yonmon, I, and I'm sure, many others on this forum, enjoy your posts immensely........always witty but to the point, but even you cannot fail to see that some things NEVER change!:D

Oh, and probably never will :o

'What me worry??..........you bet I am!'

yonmon 17-07-2008 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 608011)
My dear Yonmon, I, and I'm sure, many others on this forum, enjoy your posts immensely........always witty but to the point, but even you cannot fail to see that some things NEVER change!:D

Oh, and probably never will :o

'What me worry??..........you bet I am!'



IT'S THESE ROSE-TINTED GLASSES COWBOY !!.....
THERE THEY'RE OFF !!....AND I KNOW PRECISELY WHAT YOU MEAN !!....AND NOW I'M BLUE !!. ( I'M A TRUE RED REALLY !!)...

KEEP ON ROCKIN !!.......RESPECT AS ALWAYS...

Alfred.E. says 'Tell Cowboy to stop plagiarising other peoples catch-phrases '





ukcowboy 18-07-2008 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 608268)

IT'S THESE ROSE-TINTED GLASSES COWBOY !!.....
THERE THEY'RE OFF !!....AND I KNOW PRECISELY WHAT YOU MEAN !!....AND NOW I'M BLUE !!. ( I'M A TRUE RED REALLY !!)...

KEEP ON ROCKIN !!.......RESPECT AS ALWAYS...

Alfred.E. says 'Tell Cowboy to stop plagiarising other peoples catch-phrases '





Humble apologies Mr Alfred.E....................(Cowboy now googles Alfred E to find out more!):o

depechemode 19-07-2008 12:46

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the stand will be built, maybe a little late but if building is underway league will be happy . cant see eric letting club slip down again and there is always some funding somewhere to be had .

Haggis316 24-07-2008 20:46

Re: Luton town FC
 
On Luton overhauling us etc and hopes of leaving us in trouble:

Luton Town - Luton's task: Just how big is it?

Rotherham braced for the worst:

Millers expect to fall foul of points deduction - Yorkshire Post

Haggis316 31-07-2008 20:02

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Cocko is worried about Rotherham:

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