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What happened to the grant?? i know a fair bit went on the lovely control room [thats the most positive bit of the club - other than shultzy of course:D] but thought the rest was for the stand?
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sick off wasting money watching non league at fes so i and 3 others when to bradford park av to watch non league eastwood town
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I always thought that the aim of a forum was for fans to air their thoughts on how their team are doing or not doing as the case may be.wether it's praising the teams performance or saying what they think about a poor one the majority of accy fans who use this forum do so because they care about the direction it's heading.It's now the third season of the same standard of inconsistent form where we rely on other teams results,a select few seem to enjoy slagging off anyone who dares to criticise the management etc!.I don't have to name names,they know who they are,i know monies tight and it's hard to attract new players but at the end of the day these performances reflect on management,tactics etc.Coleman should think himself lucky that eric holds him in such esteem because other managers have been sacked for just one season of bad results let alone what we've had to put up with for nearly 3 seasons.Constructive critisism is good for a football club e.g ACCY, but when the club cuts off it's own fans forum from its' main website it makes the fans think they couldn't give a toss what the fans who pay their hard earned money to watch Accy think.Until things improve nothing will change and the criticisms will go on,it's the few who think the management right upto the chairman can do no wrong who spoil this forum because they can't stand anyone else having a point of view if it doesn't coinside with theirs.I rest my case
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long ago my toys went out of the pram, i have followed accy for decades and for some little **** like you on here, you need your head checking out (mcr adim ). sticks and stones never broke anyones bones but grimps used to, hope i never bump into you. Up the acc.
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Posted via Mobile Device is that a threat? Have i ever made a threat towards you? No so why the need for violence? I thought this was an forum where everyone had a freedom of speach! i suppose i guessed wrong!
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you are just taking the **** out of two many pepole on here
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Seems to me MCR ADIM that the freedom of speech on this forum is only right if everyone agrees with you.So grow up and realise that not all Accy supporters are happy with the way the way things are going,and yes i will support Accy in whatever league they play in but i don't want to see them back in the conference DO YOU.Perhaps if you put something constructive on the board then it could be discussed without any problems,and as to your comment that we are playing well ?,if thats the case why are we still in the bottom 6.By my reckoning if the other 3 teams hadn't been deducted a large number of points we'd be in the s--t right now.
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Can we all calm it down please?
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Posted via Mobile Device no i think its because i dont agree with you more like! Because i have different views than 95% of memebers on here that if someone has a different view of the club/players than they dont like it! I posted what i think and i got called stupid! Etc etc and why because my post was different! No-where on this post will you find me calling other members or threating them! I have an opinion i voiced it just like you all have! But the threats etc is abit far!
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i hav my views on my things i never call pepole out but you call me out with highlighting my name well thats all i hav to say on this if you would like to pm me you can :alright:
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People are not negative because of some silly whim. They are negative because they feel the club is letting them down. And they are correct. As many others have said, the club seems intent on alienating its loyal fans. And these loyal fans, now disillusioned, are quite justified in expressing their disappointment at the behaviour of a club that many (including me) have supported since the 1950s. Not only has the club failed to build on what it achieved three years ago, but it is in danger of destroying it. |
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Three other people would hve made it 1059,not earth shattering is it,what i want to know is,when we were in our last season in the conference and winning promotion we were averageing 2300 + gates and over.We stood on the Clayton end getting ****ed wet through whenever the weather took a turn for the worse.Then after 44 years in the wilderness we regain our league status and over a season or so our gates have dropped by nearly half,could it be they are disilutioned by what they've been watching?.I'd like to know what your answer is to that MCR,even with a new roof on it's not made any difference,if you know what the answer is please would you enlighten us because i'd sure like to know.
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I said earlier on that the club has never done anything that they don't have to for the fans. They could, very quickly, easily and more importantly, cheaply, build some kind of smoking shelter, a wind break of some description for around the beer shed (or just put it on the railing side?). These might not sound like major things, they wouldn't put much, if anything on the gate - but they would make the smokers and drinkers feel a little more welcomed and appreciated. It fosters a slightly better spirit amongst those people and helps them go home maybe a little warmer and a little more willing to come again next week. And they'd be paying again. Quote:
this is aimed more at the hardcore loyal fans rather than the general crowd I would imagine. THe hardcore have been battered from pillar to post over the years with the begging bowl. We carry on trying to put a little more into the begging bowl every time but you can't carry on doing this and then seeing nothing coming back from the club. We know that the club is strapped all the time but this is for many reasons and we shouldn't be the ones who seem to suffer for it. ASFC promised Junior Eagles membership would carry various perks for want of a better word. They never materialised. Stanley Legends (see other thread) were told that they would receive various perks. They never materialised. Half time draw, gold bond draw etc - we pay into them so make us feel more involved, draw them on the pitch at half time, get somebody form the crowd to draw it. If the 50-50 draw isn't claimed straight away then re-draw it. If the guy after you won it you would be annoyed that you didn't buy two and next time you might just do so. If you pay to have your newspapers delivered but they didn't come, would you carry on paying for them? Stop the gimmicks and concentrate on one thing at a time. Get it right then do something additional ;) Quote:
The club will pretty much continue to operate in this manner for the foreseeable future. It has to because we don't believe in speculating money. But if we never get the fabled cup run, if Bobby Grant isn't the first £500k player through the revolving red and white door, then we will never have the money to build the stand and facilities that will attract another 500 people in, or to build the facilities that we need in order to attract money to the FES on the other six days of the week. One really worrying thing that has crossed mty mind this week is the FES name. From what I can remember of the limited published details it was a three year deal to name the ground and was for a substantial sum rumoured to be approx £1/4m per year (somebody might find a link to the Telegraph or Observer of the time). This season would be the last of those three years, are they going to renew? Bearing in mind that they pulled out of the shirt sponsorship earlier than we thought they would then I would be inclined to think so. Couple that thought with the knowledge that the leftover Ian Craney transfer money had to go towards balancing the books, and that crowds have continued to dwindle, and the recession is continuing to affect all our local business who will surely be cutting back on sponsorship and you start to see why I would be seriously worried about our future finances. To all those still reading - sorry |
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:) macca spot on with this great post of yours :)
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Macca, you're a star! Superb post which hits the nail on the head in so many different areas. If only others on this forum could take some of your points on board and try to react positively instead of the ongoing negativity which has, I am sure, driven so many posters away. Yes, there are many things wrong, but we won't put them right by turning our backs on the club. Many thanks for this "breath of fresh air"
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macca some one should put you on as a new non diretro at the club to look at new way to help.
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None the less, does that make His post any less valid, I would say not, infact it is the best post in this thread (IMHO) and has thrown a different light on a lot of the moans .........mine included........karma on its way Macca!! Just to let you know Jeff, I was one of the missing fans and will continue to stay away for the forseable future as I am totaly dissolutioned with the whole Stanley set up and can see no hope of it changing in the near future, ergo I will save my £26 a game and stay at home..........but I will still support the team as my 'hometown' team.........as long as thats ok with yourself of course!! |
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OOpppss i will spoil a good post, as macca knows very well......
IDEAS are well & good but without a good support, dedication & direction those IDEAS cannot be put in fruition - that we know cos many a time have tried thro OSC which the new breed of supporters tried in vain to change & get the club to consider - frankly if it doesn't contain £ signs gained then Eric dont want to know we saw that for ourselves with exibition. To add even then - when offered on a plate they fluff that up bigtime as well - shirt launch big media co-incided with exibition & real positive interest & possible return of fans - failed bigtime & was too late. Think last summer proved that the interest was there from the townsfolk & people whom travelled miles - even airmiles!!! But stanley chairmain let them down as far as the current history is concerned. People wont return if they are constantly let down, irgnored & regarded unimportant to the club once parted with their hard earned cash!! Mud sticks! Ok for those that pay on the gate more often than not or have a current season ticket - they are the ones whom have that little more gripe, they are the ones contributing this season - they are the ones that are not happy & voicing that - so cold comfort to be told by those that go a few times - awww shutup its supporting accy stanley - DONT We KNOW IT, club want something for their money but so do the fans by least performance IMHO! Which prompts me like a few others have done this season which is sod that for a barrel of laughs season ticket wont be purchased next season & will go when i can or when the club wants their fans, thro effort & perfomances on & off field! |
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I don't know what's more entertaining, going to watch Stanley or coming on this forum.:D
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3rd child born hours before the start of the new season which has time and money implications father in law in hospital having neurosurgery wife suffering from looking after three kids 24/7 thats four reasons for a start jeff tonight will be my fourth game of the season - i get there when i can. But knowing this season that I can't support the club as I would like to, I have made more effort with putting money into the club through the club shop than I would normally do. Home and away shirt bought, 15 badges bought (10 of the new 40th anniversary and 5 of the crested one), two scarves (one is the new 40th anniversary that hasn't been 'launched'), a jumper for my dads birthday, a hoodie for christmas, a wallet for my eldest child, last seasons (reduced in price) home and away strip for the two oldest kids). I also subscribe to th Gold bond and Stanley legends and if and when I get chance to grab a few pints during the week I tend to drink at Mo's tavern aka The Crown. Not counting the alcohol I make that well over two hundred quid spent on merchandise plus the four games at £52. How much was your season ticket Jeff? I think I am still entitled to have an opinion despite not being a 'regular' |
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aye u do keep the stanley bar busy macca pmsl
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As for you staying away, that is up to you. But please don't say that you will still support the team. If you do not go to the games you do not SUPPORT the team you are a fan of the team. Or if you consider yourself supporting the team please explain how you are supporting them if you stay away. The Stanley set up will have less hope of changing if you and others stay away thus depriving the club of income. As for Macca's suggestions of what should be done. A couple of years ago we had long winded posts from Macca regarding the Supporters Club about what should have been done and what was going to be done now that Macca was in charge. What happened to all that when it was put into practice, how did all his suggestions and ideas change the Supporters Club. Well I am told that there were four people at the last meeting, that's how much it changed it. |
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I wasn't getting at you for not going to the games just asking for your reasons which could apply to others. In answer to your question of how much my season ticket cost. When Stanley were in the Unibond League and short of money I paid £799 to be a life member, I am now entitled to a season ticket for life. I hope that my £799 went some way to helping Stanley get back into the league. |
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... and ERIC and co; How on earth can you let a bloke of MACCAs ability not take a position on your board ??? .. You really should give it consideration.The mans influence and respect from his peers alone would add greatly to the gate- and thats the bonus as his marketing ability and unbridled enthusiasm would be of immense value to ASFC.
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what did happen during the 18 months that I was Chairman of the Supporters Club? well we had the largest ever organised away travel (that the club pulled its face at), we organised an open day of great magnitude (that was only pulled weeks before the date due to LCC sticking their noses in on a subject that had been cleared by HBC and Hyndburn Police), as part of the Open Day we had organised the resurrection of the Primary school knockout 7 a-side and had secured sponsors for that event - it was eventually held elsewhere, we broke into our own brand of merchandise (and love it or hate it it roughly broke even on takings and left us with over £2k of stock despite the club not allowing us to sell it through official avenues), we organised The Exhibition that had over 3000 visitors from various corners of the globe (despite the lack of involvement from the club), we represented the club at events that it never been to such as the Mela and Barrowford show, we upgraded membership cards from paper to hard wearing plastic, we secured our own sponsorships for the first time ever and had the membership cards, website and events sponsored by various people. We made marginally more money year on year than in previous years, despite larger outgoings due to things like merchandise, and despite the fact that we did not do a single sponsored event in that time. My aim when I took over was to increase the profile of the club (ASFC as well as OSC) through various different approaches. This was done with regular radio interviews on 2BR, 107 the Bee, Radio Lancs and Rock FM, articles in 4-4-2 magazine, News of the World, Independant and Guardian newspapers, numerous 'college' type interviews for media studies courses and of course as frequently as possible in the local papers. The exposure was all well and good and should be maintained as all positive (and it was) publicity is good publicity and helps to dilute any bad publicity (such as the turnign down of Freedom of the Borough and the various tussles with planning over the control room) BUT it doesn't put pound notes in the till and is, cynically, the reason why Mr Whalley doesn't put any emphasis on doing such things. But at the end of the day the club didn't really put any effort into the things we attempted, and this coupled with public apathy, ensured that things never really changed for the better. Before I took over there were numerous people sayin gthe OSC was that that or t'other and only Ossyclogger defending it. Many people said they would come to the meetings if things changed. The meeting where I was voted in saw 18 newcomers attend, looking back it was the largest meeting held for some time. But once that was done some of these people dropped away and many of the people who were attending prior to my appointment stopped going. This might have been because of me or it might have been because they saw the opportunity to get away quick while the going was good. Make no mistake it is a thankless task but one that I worked bloody at trying to do. MORE PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE OSC FOR IT TO BE THE SUCCESS THAT IT DESERVES TO BE. If people didn't like my brand of doing things then they can do their own - it's not a problem. I always said that if somebody was willing to do something then it shouldn't be backburned - crack on with it. Sponsored events always brought the money in but meant a lot of effort for few people and the same people being asked by 10 folk for sponsor money! I wasn't willing to do that and tried to give the Supporters Club the means to be self sufficient eg the merchandise range. But if you and a few others thought it a good idea then fine, do it. If you think it's a good idea to do lapdances on the coach to a game then fine, do it. The OSC could and should support 'branches' As for there being only four members at the last meeting or what is going on with the Supporters Club now then you'll have to ask Harwood Red. For similar reasons to why I haven't been to the games, I also have had no involvement with the OSC since the Exhibition ended. Hope this answers your questions Jeff. (and sorry for being long winded again!) :sleep8: |
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As for giving Macca a place on the Board Kiwi John. How much would you expect him to invest in the Club to become a Director ? |
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fingers get tired ;) just stick it back in please lee <a href='http://www.accringtonweb.com'><img src='/gfx/main/topforum.jpg' alt='forum' border='0'></a> it will end all the problems...honest :rolleyes: |
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another positive to take from last night......
we are unbeaten at the FES fortress this year :D |
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most off games called off thats why aswell:tongueout
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To my knowledge to be a director of a private company you need to be a shareholder. EW has made it no secret that if there are generous rich individuals out there, they can join the board as an associate director. Everybody's case is different so if you want to come on board feel free to get in touch and I'm sure the Chairman will outline whats required!!:rolleyes: |
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proberly the latter option! :eek:
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When we lived in tenerife during the last 2 seasons accy were in non-league football i travelled over 5 times for home matches.Breakdown is 1/flights average 300 euros = 1500 euros,2/fuel from Devon to accy on those occations approximately £300 3/admission fees to accy £60,4/accomodation in accy overnight £125,total=approximately £1500.Does that classify me as a supporter or fan?God knows what it would cost kiwi john to do that,he may not be able to get to see us play but he still has Accy in his heart,keep the faith kiwi your still a supporter in my eyes mate.
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:)Found this while i was surfing the net though it right to share it:) A few years after Stanley's resignation, Alan Benson, then the Mayor of Accrington, was interviewed in the Football League Review, and his comments are tinged with a bitter regret: "People do not realise just how important a League club is to a town's status and prestige until it is too late. Accrington was known nationally by reason of its soccer team. When you travelled to another part of the country and mentioned where you were from, people immediately linked Accrington to its football club. Now they say, 'Ah, the town which couldn't keep its football team'. Accrington Stanley could have survived with the proper backing."
Forty years down the line, the matter is irrelevant. But you can learn from mistakes. Today, another Accrington Stanley carries the town's standard in the football world. It isn't the same team that competed in the Football League, but that shouldn't matter. It is still our town's team. Forty years after Accrington lost her Football League status, I can't think of a better commemoration than for all of us - the town together - to make our way to the Crown Ground and take responsibility for the Accrington Stanley we are fortunate to have today. |
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a lot in what alan benson said, still have bitter regrets meself, n its a lifetime ago, ta fer that mab.;)
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( ..someone could always sell Macca 1:D ) |
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will do chief!!!
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Reading that article, it's just as relevant today as it was in the late fifties/early sixties. The Parallels are uncanny.
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Just had a thought (and I could be wrong) I have not seen this 'Event' advertised on the Accy Website!! Wonder how else they are marketing this:confused::confused:
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Sportsman's Dinner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gents (sorry ladies) The Directors of ASFC are in the process of organising a Sportsman's Dinner in the Buy the House Lounge (Sportsbar) on Friday 20th of February. This is an open invite to all fans of the club, with a particular empahise on the exiles to join us on a evening of merriment. ( we were critised on the message board at the last dinner for not offering an open invite) We have booked Martin Dobson ( ex Burnley, Everton & England) as the guest speaker and Mike Kelly (TV Comic) as the speakers, with a top class 4 course meal. The idea of a Friday before on home game (v D&R) is that long distance supporters could do the dinner and the match in one weekend. Discounts for the dinner + basic hospitality for the match have been arranged. The dinner is selling now at £30 per ticket. PM me on here or leave your details as the FES and we'll be in touch PS Can this be "stickied" for a while??? Sorry. |
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get signed up Valairian!
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I would definately think the answer is no - indictions last yr pulling out of the shirts sponsorships & now frazer eagle in trouble financially themselves. It dont rain it pours on the Crown ground unless another sponsor comes forward - which locally i think will be a needle in the haystack job.
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want to try and get PEEL holdings and clayton PARK to do a joint sponsorship :)
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There is absolutely no need for the club to officially recognise this messageboard. I always believed it was best to keep the two mutually exclusive.
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Sorry Cashy, but I don't understand your point at all. The official site is what it is, as is this forum. There's no need for them to be inter-related at all.
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the link was removed because of a thread on here that contained potentially libellous material. Fair do's if you ask me, although the pop up that declared it is an unofficial message board was sufficient to deflect any legal proceedings.
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Thing with recent developments with sale of club means they have had to distance themselves in view of potential investors, but then im mearely suggesting poss reasons. Once things are signed sealed & delivered may they reconnect with the major fanbase here. |
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Check the link Macca ;) :)
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Common sense prevails, and a new brush sweeps clean :) |
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were is it i cant find it?:confused:
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Look at the end button above the word 'here' on the donate banner :) |
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ha-ha found it!
yay, we is part of the family again! now no bad mouthing please folks. |
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Cashy's problem was down to old age. what was yours ? :D |
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Posted via Mobile Device. See yee of little faith :) nice move in right direction.
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