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Tin Monkey

14-02-2009 13:40

Bournemouth Match Thread

Today's Team

Accrington Stanley

01 Arthur
02 Cavanagh
29 Charnock
12 Edwards
04 Richardson
06 Procter
14 Ryan
16 Mullin
23 Kissock
07 Miles
10 Mullin

Substitutes

17 Dunbavin,
09 Lindfield,
05 Murdock,
22 McConville,
19 Bell

Redash

14-02-2009 14:24

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After 20 Mins we have slightly more of the possession.
Jimmy Ryan booked for unsporting behaviour.

Redash

14-02-2009 14:25

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Morecambe beating Chester, at the moment.

Redraine

14-02-2009 14:30

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Jamie Clarke for Rotherham!

Tin Monkey

14-02-2009 14:34

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Apparently we're under a lot of pressure at the moment. Only just hanging on.

Redash

14-02-2009 14:35

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Possession has changed a bit in Bournemouth's favour,
Morecambe 2 up, Grimsby 1-0 v Bury

Redash

14-02-2009 14:39

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I notice Lincoln have a frozen pitch v Darlo, maybe Lincoln have a few Injuries, I wonder what Quakerz makes of it.

Redash

14-02-2009 14:45

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Notts County have just scored against Barnet

Stanleymad

14-02-2009 14:46

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Originally Posted by Redash (Post 679885)

I notice Lincoln have a frozen pitch v Darlo, maybe Lincoln have a few Injuries, I wonder what Quakerz makes of it.

Must be a definate conspirisary going on, freezing the quakers out :rofl38: wonder if he's gonna complain on lutons board too:D

Redash

14-02-2009 14:47

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Morecambe 3-0 up now. Things arn't good at Chester

Redash

14-02-2009 15:00

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Nil each at half time.

Tin Monkey

14-02-2009 15:13

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Originally Posted by Redash (Post 679890)

Things arn't good at Chester

Thankfully! :D

Redash

14-02-2009 15:18

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Chester have got one back, I hope they don't get more.:D
Bury have equalised

Redash

14-02-2009 15:21

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Possession's creeping back into our favour.:)

Redash

14-02-2009 15:22

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Notts County are 2 up now.

deeayess

14-02-2009 15:23

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I've been listening to it on cherries world as there is a 30 day free trial and we are riding our luck by the sounds of it as Kenny sounds to be the busiest of the two keepers

Redash

14-02-2009 15:27

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Bury are in the lead at Grimsby now.

Redash

14-02-2009 15:28

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On reflection, a point will be a good result today.

Tin Monkey

14-02-2009 15:33

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Originally Posted by Redash (Post 679935)

On reflection, a point will be a good result today.

Is that reflection based on the substitutions? ;)

Bell on for Richardson and Lindfield for Miles

maccawozzagod

14-02-2009 15:33

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as long as they don't gain any ground on us, it helps strengthen our position.

It'd make a nice change to get a last minute winner though!

Redash

14-02-2009 15:37

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3 changes today, Sean McConville on for John Mullin.

Give us the old gree

14-02-2009 15:40

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 679939)

as long as they don't gain any ground on us, it helps strengthen our position.

It'd make a nice change to get a last minute winner though!

PM For you...

deeayess

14-02-2009 15:42

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Procter pen miss. over cross bar

Redash

14-02-2009 15:43

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We've had 2 shots on target after 70 mins and 3 off target, they've had 8 on and 8 off target.

Redash

14-02-2009 15:44

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make that 4 off target then.

Redash

14-02-2009 15:46

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Rotherham are 2 up now.

deeayess

14-02-2009 15:49

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1 0 bournemouth

Redash

14-02-2009 15:56

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sickening.

Redash

14-02-2009 15:57

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Bury, Notts County and Morcambe have all won. That's good for us.

deeayess

14-02-2009 15:58

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All over. Finished 1 0

Redash

14-02-2009 15:59

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It would appear Rotherham have moved above us

VALAIRIAN

14-02-2009 16:00

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Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 679949)

Procter pen miss. over cross bar

Quote:

Originally Posted by deeayess (Post 679957)

1 0 bournemouth

Says it all:mad::mad::mad:

Tin Monkey

14-02-2009 16:01

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Close range effort in the dying minutes. How many times have we seen that?

Time for Coleman to roll out the usual speech.

Redash

14-02-2009 16:01

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1-0 full time, we've dropped a place, but crucially the 3 important teams didn't gain any ground on us.

Haggis316

14-02-2009 16:06

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That point would have been worth three as it would have deprived them of two extra points which they have now got.

An expensive afternoon all round.

Clarke scored on his home debut for Rotherham.

madkev

14-02-2009 16:12

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Groundhog day or what,havent won on a saturday since november 15th now!!

VALAIRIAN

14-02-2009 16:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redash (Post 679974)

1-0 full time, we've dropped a place, but crucially the 3 important teams didn't gain any ground on us.

But Ballmouth have!!!!!!!..............

Redash

14-02-2009 16:34

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Realistically, Grimsby, Barnet and Chester are our rivals.

afrikaaner

14-02-2009 18:18

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Seems like another season of relying on other teams results :(:(:(:(:(

Haggis316

14-02-2009 18:19

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Originally Posted by Redash (Post 679970)

It would appear Rotherham have moved above us

Yes their manager specifically mentioned they had "moved above Accrington" in his post match interview on Radio Sheffield which just rubbed salt in the wound.

Haggis316

14-02-2009 18:27

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I have just had my windscreen fixed so I am glad I wasn't at Dean Court today:

Bournemouth 1-0 Accrington Stanley - Football News | SPORTBOX.tv - Nothing Inside But Sport

Grimps

14-02-2009 18:57

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hats off to united well done we need to shape up or bournemouth will be on us only 10 ponits away only i say jc if it was a diffrenct man in your job he would have gone -17 and above the accy

LongLostSon

14-02-2009 21:41

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no complaints about the result today - AFCB were quicker to the ball and accurate with their passing. Have never seen PM dominated in the air before - young Everton lad stiffled out of the game. Thought Cav was outstanding today and both the L'pool loanee and Sean Mc looked exciting prospects when they came on. This 4-5-1 lark don't suit us and despite all the 'so nearly' stories this season, the plain truth is we can't hit the net often enough to be anything other than decent also-rans.

Revived Red

14-02-2009 23:17

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A hugely disappointing performance. We seemed to be back to the old ploy of hoofing the ball down the middle and expecting a flick-on from Paul Mullin. Sadly PM won virtually nothing in the air.

Kenny Arthur kept us in the game with at least three superlative saves, and Cav and Phil Edwards played quite well.

Too many of our players seemed to lack too many basic skills. Individually, no-one was able to control the ball. If this is an ongoing problem, it is pointless passing to our players - the ball should be played into space for someone to run on to. That rarely happened today, at least not with Stanley. It certainly did with Bournemouth. When a Stanley player passed to a team-mate, it was invariably too slow and laboured and too predictable. If the ball reached the intended player, as I've already said, he could not control it.

I saw no attempt to draw Bournemouth defenders and midfielders out of position. Cav made a couple of forays forward but I can recall only one from Leam. I wonder if he is fully fit. He was replaced by James Bell whose sole contribution was a dreadful foul.

We rarely won the second ball - or the first, for that matter!

LongLostSon notes that we cannot hit the net often enough. We rarely got anywhere near it today.

Haggis316

15-02-2009 08:23

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Match stats:

AFC Bournemouth News.

K-P	15-02-2009 10:18

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 680276)

Kenny Arthur kept us in the game with at least three superlative saves, and Cav and Phil Edwards played quite well..

I would have said world class... had that been a premier****e game they would be showing them saves over and over.. close range change direction tip of the hand wonder saves.

Subs where made due to injuries to all three players.. Miles was holding his back well before he went off.. bench where asking mullin if he was ok before he finally got taken off.. am told leam was playing with a slight problem as welll.. so all forced..

Quite a few stanley fans there.. southerners always make up the numbers but I also recognised quite a few FES regulars..

Chimer

15-02-2009 14:24

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Southerner making up the numbers here .. a hundred and thirty something Stanleyites according to their stewards. Ultras led us to make a fair bit of noise on and off, well done lads.

I thought PM won quite a lot in the air but until Lindfield came on there was no-one within miles to have any hope of picking up the flick-ons - Lindfield added a lot of pace but looked a little lightweight still. In fact I thought all 3 subs, forced or not, improved things - I agree Bell's tackle was awful (holding my breath against a straight red) but otherwise looked OK, and McConville brought some much-needed drive into midfield. Kissock was the disappointment to me after last week's rave reviews - run ragged defensively in the opening quarter of an hour (Cav did well to shore things up a bit after that, their left winger was electric) and never able to find space going forward.

Kenny was just brilliant.

Bournemouth's fans are keeping their faith and I think they will get their reward - hopefully not at our expense.

Phil Whalley

15-02-2009 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 680276)

A hugely disappointing performance. We seemed to be back to the old ploy of hoofing the ball down the middle and expecting a flick-on from Paul Mullin. Sadly PM won virtually nothing in the air...

...I saw no attempt to draw Bournemouth defenders and midfielders out of position. Cav made a couple of forays forward but I can recall only one from Leam. I wonder if he is fully fit. He was replaced by James Bell whose sole contribution was a dreadful foul. We rarely won the second ball - or the first, for that matter!

This is harsh. I agree that we didn't show much of the fluency evident at Bradford and Wycombe, but this was a different sort of game. When we have teams come at us, we are able to exploit the space this creates. Bournemouth kept it tight yesterday, relying themselves on the long punt to the beanpole up front. The only exception to this was in the opening 30 minutes when they attacked down our right through Thomson, who I thought looked a good player. The opening half-hour was as poor as I have seen us play for a while, but apart from that overhead kick, which deserved a goal to be honest, for all their pressure we defended well. And for the reaction save that Kenny made, Jalal's at the end of the first-half was just as good. We could easily have gone in a goal up.

The second-half was more even, and, of course, we should have taken the lead from the pen. I agree that it wasn't the best display, and we started very slowly. Kissock was closed down very quickly and they weren't averse to a bit of needle either, so he wasn't as effective as might have been hoped. Leam didn't do much attacking, he did look a little off the pace, as did John Mullin. The arrival of McConville definitely gave us more incision.

Criticism is easy, but what other options does Coley have right now? There is a tiny bit of leeway for trying something new - Miles in the central attacking hole was a forced improvisation that happened to work okay; Ryan in the middle of midfield is one that the jury is still out on. What else? More perseverance with Turner or Grant? Back to 4-4-2 with McConville up front? Whatever you think, can you honestly assert that any of these hold out a clear prospect for an improvement in results?

If so, I'd be glad to have explained to me the trick that Coley is obviously missing.

Revived Red

15-02-2009 21:20

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I'm not sure that it's necessarily a change of personnel, Phil. It's a change of approach.

I watched Kissock with great interest in view of the comments about his contribution last week. He must have been totally bemused. In the first half hour, he was the only player coming short to collect - but no-one ever passed the ball to him. It was the same story when Coley told him to swap wings in the first half. I don't think he played badly - he was just never given a chance to play well.

What do I mean by change of approach? Well, let's start with this. EVERY time that Kenny Arthur has the ball, all defenders and midfielders turn their back on him. The expectation is that it will be a long kick through the middle, and it usually is. (If Kenny has a weakness, it must be his kicking.) For the opposition, this lack of variation must be a dream come true. A throw-out to a full-back, even if used occasionally, would make the opposition think more. It would also begin to draw opposing players out of position. A midfielder coming deep to collect from the full-back would draw more of the opposition and create spaces which we could then utilise.

Nor does the throw-out have to be to a full-back. When Kenny collects after an attack breaks down, we need a forward or midfielder to be anticipating this and to be finding space to collect a throw. It works for other teams - why not for us?

As I said earlier, the personnel hardly matter. It is the approach that needs attention.

Harking back to yesterday, I counted at least three occasions where Stanley players stopped awaiting a refereeing decision that never happened. In a league where the standard of the officials is so poor, that is a risky strategy. On one occasion in the first half, three of the back four paused and waited for an offside decision; it never came because the fourth member of that back four was playing the Bournemouth player on by about 6 metres!

I do agree, Phil, that Bournemouth played it tight. But we made it so easy for them to play that way.

Haggis316

15-02-2009 21:25

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Bournemouth player disputes penalty but their press praise Kenny:

RHOYS REVELS IN CHERRIES SUCCESS (From Bournemouth Echo)

JEFF	16-02-2009 13:32

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 680649)

Harking back to yesterday, I counted at least three occasions where Stanley players stopped awaiting a refereeing decision that never happened. In a league where the standard of the officials is so poor, that is a risky strategy. On one occasion in the first half, three of the back four paused and waited for an offside decision; it never came because the fourth member of that back four was playing the Bournemouth player on by about 6 metres!

This happens every game, Stanley players either standing still or running around with their arms up in the air claiming for offside. At one point at Bournemouth Leam Richardson had his arm up claiming for offside and was arguing with the liner whilst play was still continuing. One of the first things we were told at school was "play to the whistle". I wish Coley would drum that into their little brains.

Haggis316

17-02-2009 08:21

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