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MCR ADIM 17-02-2009 16:09

What Will Happen Now??????
 
Two charged over Stevie G brawl | The Sun |News

Will the club take action, will they be released i hope not becuase bobby has alot of potential

VALAIRIAN 17-02-2009 16:19

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QUOTE=MCR ADIM;681403]Two charged over Stevie G brawl | The Sun |News

Will the club take action, will they be released i hope not becuase bobby has alot of potential[/QUOTE]


Zorro whoops sorry MCR :D
The club must act on what is fact! But who other than those who were there know the true facts..........:(

MCR ADIM 17-02-2009 16:21

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Two Accrington Stanley footballers charged over Steven Gerrard nightclub brawl (From Lancashire Telegraph)

lancsdave 17-02-2009 16:21

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The club will blame Accyweb for their behaviour IF proven guilty.

VALAIRIAN 17-02-2009 16:24

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Wonder why our lads are in court on Monday, a month before Gerrard??????????

VALAIRIAN 17-02-2009 16:29

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 681413)
The club will blame Accyweb for their behaviour IF proven guilty.

Come on Lancsdave :) That is a bit below the belt...:D:D How can the Web be blamed for that :confused: Hope The Clarets get the points against the sky blues tonight :thumbsup: :)

lancsdave 17-02-2009 16:31

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 681422)
Come on Lancsdave :) That is a bit below the belt...:D:D How can the Web be blamed for that :confused: Hope The Clarets get the points against the sky blues tonight :thumbsup: :)

oops forgot the smiley :D, and so do I :)

lancsdave 17-02-2009 16:32

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 681414)
Wonder why our lads are in court on Monday, a month before Gerrard??????????


Presumably it's a plea hearing and then will be tied in with Gerrard for the next one ?

VALAIRIAN 17-02-2009 16:37

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Good point LD :) I knew you had missed the smiley off :D:D You are one of the good guys/gals on here :)

Chimer 18-02-2009 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 681403)
Two charged over Stevie G brawl | The Sun |News

Will the club take action, will they be released i hope not becuase bobby has alot of potential

Will Liverpool take action, will they release Gerrard? Perhaps he'd come to us if we were more forgiving :)

MCR ADIM 18-02-2009 18:22

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am just saying clubs like newcastle can afford to pay barton 50k a week while he was in jail! we proberly could not afford it if they did get sent down! to pay for them while they are giving no service to the club!

VALAIRIAN 18-02-2009 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 681974)
am just saying clubs like newcastle can afford to pay barton 50k a week while he was in jail! we proberly could not afford it if they did get sent down! to pay for them while they are giving no service to the club!


They are both out of contract at E.O.Season arn't they ??

lancsdave 18-02-2009 18:40

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Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 681974)
am just saying clubs like newcastle can afford to pay barton 50k a week while he was in jail! we proberly could not afford it if they did get sent down! to pay for them while they are giving no service to the club!


It's actually quite refreshing to see somebody look on the bright side, especially when that somebody thinks that Accyweb is so negative when talking about the club. :D;)

Haggis316 19-02-2009 07:57

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Can't do without Ian Jamie was our keeper cover when he was injured

mab 23-02-2009 19:30

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:) From the telegraphNewsNow: Loading story...

mab 23-02-2009 20:16

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Four charged in connection with Steven Gerrard incident appear in court - Liverpool Echo.co.uk

VALAIRIAN 23-02-2009 20:26

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What does that mean - would not indicate a plea ????? Surely its guilty or not guilty !!! :confused::confused::confused:

AccyMad 24-02-2009 07:06

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That flummoxed me an all - maybe it means 'can't remember, I'd had a few bevy's' :)

MikeA 24-02-2009 07:57

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Basically, the defendant doesn't have to enter a plea at this stage. All that happens then is that the magistrates decide where the trial will be held. In this case, the same place as Gerrard's.

K-P 24-02-2009 08:00

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Mountains, Molehills

MikeA 20-03-2009 11:13

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Latest: BBC NEWS | England | Merseyside | Gerrard assault charge is dropped.

The assault charge has been dropped.

cashman 20-03-2009 11:30

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as that don't affect the stanley 2, who cares?:)

MikeA 20-07-2009 12:14

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In the Crown Court today. Expected to last 2 weeks.
BBC NEWS | UK | England | Merseyside | Gerrard on trial over bar affray

mab 20-07-2009 13:41

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:eek: 2wks...We need to sign a Keeper ASAP:)

Tin Monkey 20-07-2009 13:51

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We need to do that regardless of this case!

cashman 20-07-2009 19:34

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 729741)
We need to do that regardless of this case!

thats the only area football wise thats concerned me of late.

Tin Monkey 21-07-2009 10:32

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Just been on Radio Lancashire that Grant and Dunbavin have pleased guilty to the charge of affray. No details other than that at the moment.

Tin Monkey 21-07-2009 10:43

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Some of the story reported here:

Six plead guilty in Gerrard case | The Sun |News

cashman 21-07-2009 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 730011)
Some of the story reported here:

Six plead guilty in Gerrard case | The Sun |News

wonder how much of that report is true? knowing the "Sun" n Liverpool history.:rolleyes:

MikeA 21-07-2009 20:57

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Confirmed by the BBc (and the Lancs Telegraph):
BBC NEWS | UK | England | Merseyside | Gerrard 'struck with boxer speed'

cashman 21-07-2009 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 730153)
Confirmed by the BBc (and the Lancs Telegraph):
BBC NEWS | UK | England | Merseyside | Gerrard 'struck with boxer speed'

saw the news at tea time, looks bad MikeA. but i will wait to see what transpires with the trial.

Outback Ozzy 21-07-2009 23:03

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I'm hoping that by pleading guilty now, they may just end up with a slap on the wrist, however, depends on the judge. But I wouldn;t expect the punishment to be too severe.

cashman 21-07-2009 23:24

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 730176)
I'm hoping that by pleading guilty now, they may just end up with a slap on the wrist, however, depends on the judge. But I wouldn;t expect the punishment to be too severe.

i think so also, though 6 months fer dunsavin wouldn't upset me.:D;)

Chimer 24-07-2009 21:49

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One law for the rich?

Stevie G found not guilty. Best of luck to him, but funny that all the little men held their hands up and took the rap (for him?) - wonder if that had any bearing on the verdict? Or maybe he could just afford a better lawyer?

Henry Morton 24-07-2009 22:20

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The Daily Telegraph online carried a full, verbatim account of the judge's address to Gerrard after the Not Guilty verdict.

It explained everything that we didn't know.

This summary now appears to have been withdrawn by the DT, and the only reason which I can imagine for this is that the half-dozen who pleaded guilty (or some of them) are now trying to change their plea.

The thick plottens.

Jesus_was_A_red_ 24-07-2009 23:03

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There cant be one law for gerrard and another for the rest. Gerrard from what has been publicised seemed the main aggressor (handbags at ten paces!) and walks scott free yet the lads including dunbavin and grant plead guiity to affray recieve a punishment. Unless theyve been slipped a few quid £££££. Totally blown out of propotion because of Gerrard as everybody well knows.

cashman 24-07-2009 23:06

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i say if that trial had been held anywhere else, with that cctv evidence i am damn sure the verdict would be different.:rolleyes:

Oggy 24-07-2009 23:35

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Originally Posted by Jesus_was_A_red_ (Post 730873)
There cant be one law for gerrard and another for the rest.

Where have you been living?

I think the club should demand his shirt back, we don't want Stanley to be involved,
however innocent he was. :rolleyes:

Grimps 24-07-2009 23:38

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would of been 3 years in a big bad places called ................. big pay off and brown bags full of money

Jesus_was_A_red_ 24-07-2009 23:56

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Originally Posted by oggy (Post 730889)
where have you been living?

I think the club should demand his shirt back, we don't want stanley to be involved,
however innocent he was. :rolleyes:

:d

DAV007 25-07-2009 10:41

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gerrards lawyer earned a quarter of a million for the case.

its rumoured grant, dunbavin and the others may be changing their plea's.

Bagpuss 25-07-2009 11:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 730875)
i say if that trial had been held anywhere else, with that cctv evidence i am damn sure the verdict would be different.:rolleyes:

What a load of bull;)

MikeA 25-07-2009 12:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 730992)
its rumoured grant, dunbavin and the others may be changing their plea's.

According to today's Guardian, the six non-celebrities will be sentenced at a later date:
Liverpool footballer Steven Gerrard cleared of affray | Football | guardian.co.uk

Also from toay's Guardian, this makes interesting reading:
What Steven Gerrard's night out tells us about footballers' lives | Football | guardian.co.uk

As does this:
A glimpse into the excess of modern footballers | Football | guardian.co.uk

Outback Ozzy 25-07-2009 13:29

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I reckon it would have been fairer on all concerned to hold this trial away from Liverpool. This case smacks of 12 good and true folks in the red shirt of Liverpool. So what of the other 6, even though they have pleaded guilty to affray etc, why should they not now change their plea. I would if I was in their shoes. To punch somebody 3 times (Gerrards own words) is NOT self defence it is downright thuggery and I think every right minded person on this island will also think the same. His image HAS been tarnished whatever that jury and the judge has said. It stinks.

cashman 25-07-2009 14:25

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thing is he stated he did not "SEE" his mate elbow the guy in the face, the cctv evidence says otherwise.:rolleyes:

cashman 25-07-2009 15:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 730155)
saw the news at tea time, looks bad MikeA. but i will wait to see what transpires with the trial.

why was i not suprised?:rolleyes:

Henry Morton 26-07-2009 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Morton (Post 730860)
The Daily Telegraph online carried a full, verbatim account of the judge's address to Gerrard after the Not Guilty verdict.

It explained everything that we didn't know.

This summary now appears to have been withdrawn by the DT, and the only reason which I can imagine for this is that the half-dozen who pleaded guilty (or some of them) are now trying to change their plea.

The thick plottens.


Well, although the DT have removed it from the Sport site they have not yet removed it from the Celebrity site.

So here it is while we can still access it:-


England footballer Steven Gerrard cleared of affray over Merseyside bar brawl - Telegraph

mab 26-07-2009 09:48

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Thanks for the link Henry Morton:)

Bagpuss 26-07-2009 10:27

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So now it's clear thar Gerrard is innocent.

Chimer 26-07-2009 11:31

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 731241)
So now it's clear thar Gerrard is innocent.

Are you in ironic mood with this one?

Clearly innocent ..... of throwing the first punch (well elbow).

Not quite so clear about the need for the next three blows.

Bagpuss 26-07-2009 15:25

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Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 731264)
Are you in ironic mood with this one?

Nope, on the evidence, all the evidence, Gerrard is innocent.

cashman 26-07-2009 15:29

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 731312)
Nope, on the evidence, all the evidence, Gerrard is innocent.

would be interesting to know what the evidence would say to a jury elsewhere.:rolleyes: summat we will never know, but folk with common sense can figure that one.:)

Bagpuss 26-07-2009 15:35

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 731313)
would be interesting to know what the evidence would say to a jury elsewhere.:rolleyes: summat we will never know, but folk with common sense can figure that one.:)

Where would you suggest the trial should have been held, a place with folk full of common sense like MANCHESTER?:rolleyes:

caretaker 26-07-2009 16:52

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Dont beat around the bush Bagpuss, say what you mean!

caretaker 26-07-2009 16:54

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PS.
Your wife has got nice eyes

Bagpuss 26-07-2009 18:35

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 731321)
PS.
Your wife has got nice eyes

Anything else???;)

yerself 26-07-2009 18:42

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What amused me about this is the fact that jurors had to declare if they were Everton fans because Steven (the diver) Gerard was afraid they'd find him guilty. Of course a jury of Liverpool fans would be completely unbiased.

Bagpuss 26-07-2009 18:43

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 731320)
Dont beat around the bush Bagpuss, say what you mean!

Sometimes there's no point carrying on a discussion because if someones minds set that's it.

Gerrard was found not guilty on the evidence provided not on a technicality, he was tried by a jury of 12 who found him not guilty, the judge agreed, end off.

VALAIRIAN 27-07-2009 18:00

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Thanks for that link Henry......

MikeA 07-08-2009 11:33

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According to the BBC, all six others, including Bobby and Bavs, have received suspended sentences and 150 hours unpaid work.
More: BBC NEWS | UK | England | Merseyside | Six sentenced over Gerrard brawl.

VALAIRIAN 07-08-2009 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 734154)
According to the BBC, all six others, including Bobby and Bavs, have received suspended sentences and 150 hours unpaid work.
More: BBC NEWS | UK | England | Merseyside | Six sentenced over Gerrard brawl.

"Unpaid work" If Eric was still at the club he would have them playing for us for nowt.. :D:rofl38:


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