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win games.. crowds will come...
lose games.. crowds will stay away...

sorry but it really is that simple ..

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k.p win games crowds come make new fans happy with nices ground and they will come if you seen a film called filed of dreams in it they will come

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As Shankly said """Football is a simple game made complicated by people who should know better", and what you said is as simple as it gets. The only thing I would add is that it takes longer to win them back than it does to lose them.

Another own goal from the Stanley school of customer services I think :eek:

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personally i think it was a good article, J.C. wasn't knocking people,just stating fact, like if ya go in a shop wi no money,ya can't buy nowt. if it had been done different then i could agree dave.:)

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What a statement to make "stay away fans responsible if stanley drop through the football league trap door" all I can say to that is b******s If we do drop back out of the league the blame must surely rest with the way the club is run both on and off the field don,t get me wrong I and many other are quite aware of what it takes in both time and money to maintain the club but with statements like that do they really expect people to spend hard earned money to get stabbed in the back?
God I,M bloody raving mad that mad that at this moment in time I could quite easily say b******S to it all

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be as mad as ya want, the guys right he wasn't knocking people if ya read it proper, just stating fact.:rolleyes:

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Stating fact maybe, but how about he said " We need more people to come and support us so we can push on a bit more". Yes it's stating the obvious and will probably be ignored by a lot of people, but I can bet people will notice what he has 'allegedly' said about where the blame lies if they go down, which is a total negative and only gets peoples backs up.

The other thing to bear in mind of course is that it is a newspaper story, is it all directly quoted or 'interpreted' ?

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all he was saying was if he we had more fans equals more money than we could by better things. like instead of shopping in netto we could shop in waitrose! more fans means better wages to offer players who we make a bid for etc, means better football, better off the pitch things! and before you know it we will be lifting the premier league cup! after beating united 2-0 on the crown ground! ryan and p.mullin score!

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well yeh theres always dummies that think like that, but people who can read will get it.:D;)

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Must agree.

One thing's for sure. If we get thrown out of the Football League over these bloody seats, all we have to do is muck about in non-league for 40 years until we get another big gate ;):D

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MCR You must get a job at the club :) With your positivity we could go along way :D We need more people like you to keep our spirits up :thumbsup:

Look forward to seeing you on The Clayton End tomorrow :D:D:D
Keep smiling "Z"

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i agree:) got to love a positive fella

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yep yer correct but as you have said its stated in other threads, but thats not the issue in this thread is it?:confused:

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fair enough thats yer opinion, aint mine, meself think he's just frustrated wi lack of funds n trying owt, i reckon if its in the press as is, can't do any harm.:)

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:) I'm with your way of thinking cashman,jc statement born out of frustration with the lack of home fans which once stud or sat at the FES,the team as a whole have played better than last season what we and the stay aways need is a run of wins lady luck rub of the green...lets hope old and new supporters find there way back to the FSE sooner rarther than later.:)

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i could understand the other line of thought if J.C. was actually slagging fans, came across to me as stating "Hard Fact" to me the Public need to be aware of the situation, not sheltered from it. i have seen Accrington Stanley vanish into oblivion once, have no wish to see it again. from what i remember of 62,it came out of the blue.

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i mean lets "Get Real" here, whilst the 1000 or so that go aint been treated great, a bigger concern is the 2000 or so that stopped, if Coleman can make em aware of circumstances, good on him i say.

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the point is why arnt the fans that came to the FES after we had won at woking away to secure our conferance title not coming any more! i remember the home game after woking and it was packed in the clayton end! hardly any big gaps or nothing! is it becuase the ticket prices? becuase the club didnt act quick enough when the big crowds where coming in to make them buy season tickets for next season? or did the fans jump on the band waggon and want to be a part of Accrington and Accrington Stanleys history coming back in the league after 40+ years of non-league! i think most of them did jump on the band waggon when we where riding high in the league! always in the news buzz around the town stanley finally back in the league many people thought it would not happen! now the dream has happend and where back in the league and just doing adverage than no-one wants to be apart of that becuase it aint history anymore! it aint something they can look back on and say to the grandchildren i was there when stanley lifted the conferance trophy at the FES! we have done the unexpected on a low budget and brillant management and great players! now there is nothing to be apart of becuase were just a league club now, we have done the dream! now we are just a league 2 club nothing more or nothing less! there is no big dream (well there is if you read my earlier post) but what am trying to say is that now where in the league we are happy and of course want to progress but we are at the moment happy to be in league 2! when we was in the conferance and below we always wanted something more like we were happy to be in the conferance but we wanted league football and we pushed and hoped every season to win it and we did! if we did get gates of 2000+ home fans every week than we proberly could of had a new cow shed built all seated and roofed and would not have unhappy fans becuase of the seats going in the claton end! all i can say is every fan that can make it to the game tomorrow should go and support than lads on the pitch! regardless of what you feel about off the pitch actions and so on! give them encouragement when they make a mistake! ok have abit of a moan becuase we all do than forget it! show passion to the lads for 90mins than after that make it know if you dont like the way the club are acting e.g seats in clayton end i dont want them in the clayton end but i know they are going in there and there is nothing we can do about it just have to get on with it! so tomorrow be passionate, be loud, be proud for 90mins to be a stanley fan! win or lose for that 90mins you will of felt proud to be a stanley fan, and you will be stood/sat next to other great fans who all feel the same way you do about the past 90mins gutted if we lose! very happy if we win!

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good passionate post mcr admin, to be honest K-P hit it right on the nail, sad fact but many want to watch a winning team, anywhere in the uk, the other 2 local clubs are good examples Burnley gates up, Rovers gates down, don't agree wi that mentality meself, but thats life. i shall be up sat, n tues, n stanley are my second team.but first love.;)

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We've had this discussion so many times that I've lost count. This figure of the missing 2000 is slightly misleading, as the real missing figure is probably half of that (average this season is about 1400-ish, whereas in Conference winning season it was 2500-ish).

Some of that can be accounted for by fair-weather supporters, quality of football last season, Stanley no longer the non-league 'second club', etc. However, the main issue with Coleman's passionate plea is that it's very simplistic. There are numerous contributing factors to Stanley's falling gates, although the result is the same, i.e. low gates = little money for running and improvements costs.
The hard core will be there whatever, but as Kipax rightly says, only good football and results will bring back the floaters. Last season's poor home form and performances did a lot of damage and it will take more than a rant in the local paper to bring those people back.

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but average conference away crowds were only about 50-100, FL away crowds are significantly higher than that. One could be inclined to think (Bagpuss) that crowds were higher than claimed 'back in the day' :rolleyes:

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I think 50-100 is very low when you consider how many the likes of York, Halifax, Morecambe, etc brought.
Don't forget, there're some very low away crowds in the FL too. Look at Barnet for example, and how many are we expecting from Dagenham today?

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I was fuming when i saw the headline, thing is know where its come from, coley has asked eric for money for players [he may of seen & needs] & eric has said he has none blame the low gate, we have more washers than spectators!! He does it all the time dig, dig, dig, even on soccer am he cant resist a dig at the support, slating townsfolk, so little wonder that has occured to coley - probably a regular answer he gets from our chairman, so just now slips it in himself.

Why low gates.....................the answers blowing in the wind my friend!

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Another reason, stated by Macca on many occasions is the unlucky £13 charged for entry, 13 is considered by many as an unlucky number.

But really KPs answer is the main reason.
Win = Crowds
Lose = No Crowds

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If Eric threw money at JC and bought promotion next season, we might get - what - say 3000 tops as home support once the town realised we were winning? And if he didn't then throw even more money at him the following season, we'd have a losing start in Div 3 (just can't call it League 1, sorry) and the gates would drop back to not much more than we get now.

KP is right. Normal people are fickle about football. Mad people support losing teams, weep and spend time on this website! :D

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If Coleman is still unsure why people aren't coming to watch matches, he wants to try spending £13 to stand and watch games like today's, especially when cash is in short supply.

If I wasn't a season ticket holder and a complete idiot, I wouldn't be going again for a good while.

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Disagree T.M. in the second half i'd never thought "Boredom" could pass so quickly.:D well done the kids fer ribbing roberts.:D

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The 'football' on offer was dire throughout and I was ready to go home from half-time onwards. There's a lot of competition for people's time and money nowadays. There are a lot of other things I could be doing on a Saturday and I'm sure there must be plenty of other people thinking the same thing [just over the mysterious 1000 again today]

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Why should the standard of football matter,just pay your money and turn up otherwise you won't be a real Stanley fan ;):)

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i will come back to stanley if jc pays me in and lets me sit next to him to see what he see and after 13 anther 13 out is pocket he will say stop wasting my pennys and put it right this week i and some accrington stanley fan when to see eastwood town away game we should have been at home but we did not waste money

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Some fans you are, pathetic.

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Wile I wouldn't expect you to understand what was said, when you grow up a bit you'll start to see things differently.

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my uncle got the sat no so long ago from the accy for playing football but this play football in fl2 and calls the fans and still as a job ive been to **** places over the years but had it wasting good money so i will no long come and pay . the manger was ex burnley play so if you link the man you link me the realy fans from old days gone

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Follow that Mr Griff.

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Stream-of-consciousness writing is usually regarded as a special form of interior monologue, it doesn't come more special than this. :confused:

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i have got someone to spell for me, the manager who got the sack for playing decent football was my uncle leighton james,i have followed accy through thick and thin over the decades, no more you can stick your club where the sun doesn't shine until they get a new man in charge, and i speak for a lot of people on here.My heart is red and always will be until there is a day where money is free i ain't coming back to the fes

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...and we all know what he is.

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you cant go wrong with JC.

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Didn't he find his true vocation as a lollipop-man or something?

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yes . he got the sack for less than jc is doing over the pass two years

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and he was a great player

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Bobby Charlton was n even Better player Grimps, didn't do to well on the management side.:)

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Leighton James didn't get sacked from Stanley, he handed in his resignation after being promoted at work.
He said: "The club have been nothing but fair with me. I haven't got a bad word to say about Stanley, the club has treated me absolutely marvellously."
:rolleyes:

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any way job or the sack still jc is not in a safe place for the red 11 ponits off the drop not good at all

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becouse of money he went for plaYER

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theres people in far worse places. everyone knows the reds are punching above their weight, so there doin ok to me in the circumstances, not what dreamers want to know or hear,but its fact.:rolleyes:

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I must say that if things had been different at the start of this season - points deduction stuff - I believe strongly that EW and JC would have gone about things differently! But we have what we have and in my opinion Eric's gamble has paid off, he has not got us into any stupid debt, and I have to say (sorry Grimps if you do not agree) but the footy at The F.E.S. HAS been better thus far this season and with a bit less nievaty on Coley's part, we would have at least 10-12 more points on the board and I would not be posting this reply.... :):)

Bring on The Hatters :D:D:D

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How do we know that the club hasn't any debts?

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Because our esteemed Chairman is always at pains to point this out to us all.....................surely you cant doubt Him, can you? :rolleyes::p:rolleyes:

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I for one do not........:):)

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Im sure i got told Eric used to act at the Ossy Civic ;)