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cashman 22-03-2009 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 695554)
like Wille Miller said

Fans can scribble what they want to cyber land.....

We took direct action, as a group, to show that the decision to let Paul go was wrong. We couldn't let such a decision go without doing anything. Otherwise, the club has carte blanche to do what it likes regardless of us.

As it was, the day turned out brill.......

I for one agree with that and i know other people on this forum agree with it aswell, it was nothing about one person does it all sheep followed, before the game we all knew, what we were doing and why and for how long and after that period be loud for 80mins. It's over with now we did it, was effective now we forget about it and Tuesday will be different.

please explain to me how the decision was wrong, assuming it was a financial one, as i said before ive seen stanley die in 62 through financial mismanagement n its not very pleasant, that seems to go way oer yer heads.:(

dabeast 22-03-2009 22:06

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The question you should be asking is whether such a protest would have been appropriate if, for example, the club had allowed paul to retire from football. I know its a different scene but it would still be a question of the club agreeing to paul's request. I think a protest was inappropriate and could have been damaging to team morale. Luckily we 'support' a group of professionals with enough self-belief to know that the club is bigger than one man (or section of fans)

cashman 22-03-2009 22:13

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Personally i think Paul Mullen should be retained by stanley when he retires from playing,if finances allow. but thats another issue.

mab 22-03-2009 22:54

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Exeter City | Match | Report | 21 March 2009, Accrington Stanley 2 - 1 Exeter

cashman 22-03-2009 23:03

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So, what went so horribly wrong? Credit where it's due. Accrington were stronger and, save the first 15 minutes, more purposeful. But City were sloppy, spineless and second best. copied from mabs link off exeter website, sorry willie miller if my question is too difficult?:rolleyes:

MCR ADIM 22-03-2009 23:33

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Originally Posted by dabeast (Post 695570)
Posted via Mobile Device
The question you should be asking is whether such a protest would have been appropriate if, for example, the club had allowed paul to retire from football. I know its a different scene but it would still be a question of the club agreeing to paul's request. I think a protest was inappropriate and could have been damaging to team morale. Luckily we 'support' a group of professionals with enough self-belief to know that the club is bigger than one man (or section of fans)

If he had retired at the end of the season or when his contract runs out. It would proberly be as gutting as it was when the news came he went on loan but we would not be in a battle at the bottom, even though we played well on saturday and won against a top 6 side which is brilliant and it looks like we will survie, its still possible to go down. Coley and Jimmy would have all summer to find a new player, or maybe a couple of new players due to having more to spend on wages. Out of 1,169 thats was watching the game on saturday, how can 50 or so people who chose out of own choice to sit down for 10mins damage team morale, are the other 900 or so fans unable to make noise e.g clap, sing, encourage the team on for 10mins.

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 695569)
please explain to me how the decision was wrong, assuming it was a financial one, as i said before ive seen stanley die in 62 through financial mismanagement n its not very pleasant, that seems to go way oer yer heads.

Due to being born 28years after Stantley died in 62 i do not know what it was like them folding, I can only think it must of been very hard and upsetting and you must be very happy to see them back in the league and i can see your point that you do not want them to die again due to financial mismanagement, but if it was for the club to save/make abit of money as so many of posts on here seem to say, than why didn't the club come out and say that instead of saying what they did say. Didn't alot of people think the decision was wrong to let him go on loan when we are not safe yet. But like i said before i think we are not giving the team enough praise for beating a top 6 team when most people thought we had no chance now Mullin had gone.

cashman 22-03-2009 23:46

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i don't know that is the reason mcr admin, but it seems to be the general consensus of opinion:confused: no-one really knows only the powers that be, i can agree the club should have come out with the full story, no question, but i cannot agree with the silence, i was told at half time that J.C. was stood at the time asking what the hell was going on, if that is true it don't take "Einstein"to think, that must transmit to the players, thank you fer responding, "Willie Miller" didn't seem to have the balls.:)

Mr Matthew 23-03-2009 06:36

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What did we do before the Ultras.

Suprise we won at all.

The Crown used to be like a morgue.

Does anybody detect a hint of sarcasm!

Willie Miller 23-03-2009 07:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 695587)
i don't know that is the reason mcr admin, but it seems to be the general consensus of opinion:confused: no-one really knows only the powers that be, i can agree the club should have come out with the full story, no question, but i cannot agree with the silence, i was told at half time that J.C. was stood at the time asking what the hell was going on, if that is true it don't take "Einstein"to think, that must transmit to the players, thank you fer responding, "Willie Miller" didn't seem to have the balls.:)

I asked the powers that be on Saturday, both Rob & David O'Neill.....

I had enough balls to do that so replying to a post from someone I have never met is quite easy!

Mullin wanted to go, Coleman didn't want him to go, the club wanted what was best, the deal was a good one for a player that wanted to go

I, still think he should have stayed as Mullin said he wouldn't sulk if he wasn't allowed........

cashman 23-03-2009 08:10

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thought that would get a response.:D ta willie, ya still aint answered "Why" ya think its wrong if it is financial, which from their answer to you, seems to be the knub of the issue. fer me it re-enforces what i thought, they were right to do so. ok he was mr stanley n nobody more so, but at the end of the day its survival before sentiment.

Outback Ozzy 23-03-2009 08:49

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Just another question of the protest, was the hanging of the banners upside down part of same protest?

MCR ADIM 23-03-2009 09:42

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Yes

JEFF 23-03-2009 10:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 695477)
scribble what ya like into cyber space..... its done & it achieved what we wanted to achieve....

What exactly did it achieve ?

Oldgobbin 23-03-2009 10:59

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"Mullin wanted to go, Coleman didn't want him to go, the club wanted what was best, the deal was a good one for a player that wanted to go"

If this is what you were told, Jase, and if it is correct, then this ties in pretty much with the statement issued by the club. The object of your protest, therefore, really ought to be Paul Mullin. Does this mean that if and when he returns, all "Paul Mullin" chants will be silenced for a specified period of time?

JEFF 23-03-2009 12:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldgobbin (Post 695640)
"Mullin wanted to go, Coleman didn't want him to go, the club wanted what was best, the deal was a good one for a player that wanted to go"

If this is what you were told, Jase, and if it is correct, then this ties in pretty much with the statement issued by the club. The object of your protest, therefore, really ought to be Paul Mullin. Does this mean that if and when he returns, all "Paul Mullin" chants will be silenced for a specified period of time?

Well said.

dabeast 23-03-2009 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 695586)
If he had retired at the end of the season or when his contract runs out. It would proberly be as gutting as it was when the news came he went on loan but we would not be in a battle at the bottom, even though we played well on saturday and won against a top 6 side which is brilliant and it looks like we will survie, its still possible to go down.

We could not possibly have been in a better position if mullin had played yesterday, so yes its still possible but that has not yet been affected by mullins departure

dabeast 23-03-2009 12:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 695586)
Out of 1,169 thats was watching the game on saturday, how can 50 or so people who chose out of own choice to sit down for 10mins damage team morale, are the other 900 or so fans unable to make noise e.g clap, sing, encourage the team on for 10mins

A valid point about the 900 or so but its a fact that the 50 or so people have and will continue to get behind and inspire the team. You know you are the twelth man and you and other posts by the ultras show that you are aware of how valuable you are to the team. (he non participation of the remaining crowd in singing etc is a crying shame but that is a separate issue.)

Knowing how much of a lift you give to the team and considering your self awareness of your influence (often celebrated by your members) you should have known better

Willie Miller 23-03-2009 12:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 695630)
What exactly did it achieve ?

It meant Accyweb could have a moan, I mean its silent on here after a win:)

cashman 23-03-2009 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dabeast (Post 695663)
A valid point about the 900 or so but its a fact that the 50 or so people have and will continue to get behind and inspire the team. You know you are the twelth man and you and other posts by the ultras show that you are aware of how valuable you are to the team. (he non participation of the remaining crowd in singing etc is a crying shame but that is a separate issue.)

Knowing how much of a lift you give to the team and considering your self awareness of your influence (often celebrated by your members) you should have known better

agree dabeast, the ultras give a great boost to the team, what should be realised though is the owd gits that don't sing etc, have done this n got the t-shirt, when younger, most now n i include meself could not continuously sing at games if they wanted too, its called "AGE" summat the ultras will realise when they attain it. one or two seem to think they are special, at least thats how i see it, well the truth is they are not, young fans do a sterling job at every ground in the country, fair do's fer such small gates, they do a better job than many others, end of the day they are just fans, n the guy who only claps n shouts occasionally is just as valuable to any club as these people. bottom line here is simple, all fans want there club to do well.

MCR ADIM 23-03-2009 13:21

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These wins are deserved, says Stanley boss Coleman (From Lancashire Telegraph)

shakermaker 23-03-2009 13:53

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Regardless of whether you agree with their opinion on the Mullin saga or not, the Ultras wanted to make their feelings known and they did that well.
Most (if not all) similar groups of fans of other clubs would have protested angrily, which according to some absurd logic on here would have gifted us an 0-8 defeat against the Grecians.

I don't wish to support my team on a match day in exactly the same way as the Ultras do, but over the last few games (and especially away at Macclesfield) they have done the club nothing but good. I've heard two fans from recent opposition teams labelling our fans the best in the league because of the originality of the Stanley Ultras. It's not because of my breed who sit in the stands or stand to the sides of the Clayton End. It's because of the Ultras' ingenuity and massive ability to get everybody else (players, other fans, and even the management) fired up with things such as the drum or banners or even the Dale Cavese chant. Though I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the middle of the Clayton End when the DISCO starts up!
Their short, silent and effective protest did themselves and the lads in red proud. It was an over confidence of Stanley players resulting in inadequate defending that gave Exeter the goal, not a lack of support from the Ultras.

Willie Miller 23-03-2009 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldgobbin (Post 695640)
"Mullin wanted to go, Coleman didn't want him to go, the club wanted what was best, the deal was a good one for a player that wanted to go"

If this is what you were told, Jase, and if it is correct, then this ties in pretty much with the statement issued by the club. The object of your protest, therefore, really ought to be Paul Mullin. Does this mean that if and when he returns, all "Paul Mullin" chants will be silenced for a specified period of time?

Lots of Ultras/Singers wanted to sing Mullin songs on Saturday.... We didn't....

Will we again, mmmmm not sure. For me, if Mullin wanted to leave us in the middle of a relegation battle for a chance of Wembley then he's no longer in the class of Grimmy, Ashley, Jamo, Smith, Marsh etc

cashman 23-03-2009 16:26

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its like owt willie, if thats the case, ya can't really blame a guy whos coming to the end of career fer wanting a chance he would never get wi stanley.:)

K-P 23-03-2009 16:27

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The club could ahve refused his request.. they didnt.. thats wrong IMHO as they should have kept hold until we knew we where safe.. Its a major thing thats happened.. people wanted to let the club know they where dissapointed with whats gone on.. 10 minutes silence... there are grounds with 80 minutes silence and the only noise is booing. So maybe be thankful for what you ahve got behind the goals because week after week they get plaudits from every team we play


Nothing wrong with what the ultras did and as far as I can see cashman is the biggest complainer and he wasnt even there and going by what people tell him... thats called sh1te stirring isn't it?

Its happened.,.. no one died.. Shove some fish and chips in it and move on... tuesday is almost upon us :)

cashman 23-03-2009 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K-P (Post 695729)
The club could ahve refused his request.. they didnt.. thats wrong IMHO as they should have kept hold until we knew we where safe.. Its a major thing thats happened.. people wanted to let the club know they where dissapointed with whats gone on.. 10 minutes silence... there are grounds with 80 minutes silence and the only noise is booing. So maybe be thankful for what you ahve got behind the goals because week after week they get plaudits from every team we play


Nothing wrong with what the ultras did and as far as I can see cashman is the biggest complainer and he wasnt even there and going by what people tell him... thats called sh1te stirring isn't it?

Its happened.,.. no one died.. Shove some fish and chips in it and move on... tuesday is almost upon us :)

cashman wasn't even where? if ya mean the game yer adding lying to yer repertoire, n if ya want sh stirring, i reckon your only gobbing like that to keep well in wi yer customers, get a life sad man.

MCR ADIM 23-03-2009 17:00

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Watch Accrington Stanley's boss preview Darlington clash

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...ingtonstanley/

Also

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk..._the_backside/

K-P 23-03-2009 17:00

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in an earlier post you say you where told coleman was looking around wondering what was going on.... i presumed that meant you where not there... if you where then apologies...

now tell me what customers i am keeping well in with ? as for get a life... hahaha

MCR ADIM 23-03-2009 17:10

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Now what we did whether it was right or wrong

You would not get this with the Premier League managers.

i was there to watch this and it was really funny, just goes to show also what a good relationship the manager has with the fans

YouTube - John Coleman (Accrington Stanleys Manager) Playing Pool Blindfolded

Willie Miller 23-03-2009 17:10

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I don't get all the vitriol...... Ultras Supporters Group had a protest about our leading goalscorer for years being loaned to a rival whilst in a relegation battle....

The folk from the cow shed all stayed away on Sat......

Blame them too ;)

cashman 23-03-2009 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K-P (Post 695761)
in an earlier post you say you where told coleman was looking around wondering what was going on.... i presumed that meant you where not there... if you where then apologies...

now tell me what customers i am keeping well in with ? as for get a life... hahaha

apology accepted, as fer customers just my opinion of who buys yer photos, as for the last of my statements, which you seem to have fully endorsed by the fact ya are unable to read properly at your age, yes i did say i was told, AT HALF TIME. if i put it in capitals ya may be able to read it better?:rolleyes:

MCR ADIM 23-03-2009 17:43

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Aint all this getting a bit childish now
Saying "Grow up," "Get a life" etc
Can we not get back to the orginal topic of the game and what happened

Willie Miller 23-03-2009 17:49

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50 years ago this would be sorted out by pistols at dawn

fc:stanley 23-03-2009 17:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 695789)
50 years ago this would be sorted out by pistols at dawn

Now its knifes and baseball bats. :cool:

Thats my video MCR, well posted :D

ACCY AGRO, ACCY AGRO

HELLO HELLO!!!!


:theband:

Willie Miller 23-03-2009 17:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 695793)
Now its knifes and baseball bats. :cool:

Thats my video MCR, well posted :D

ACCY AGRO, ACCY AGRO

HELLO HELLO!!!!


:theband:

Your spelling young man is atrocious........

as a full back, you are learning:D

VALAIRIAN 23-03-2009 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 695788)
Aint all this getting a bit childish now
Saying "Grow up," "Get a life" etc
Can we not get back to the orginal topic of the game and what happened

I am with you on this MCR ! Quite ironic really as you are probably the youngest person posting :thumbsup: :D

K-P 23-03-2009 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 695785)
apology accepted, as fer customers just my opinion of who buys yer photos,

i dont recall selling any to accy fans.. i used to give them away to anyone who asked for em.. thats started costing me too much.. started to charge and well.. no one buys em even at three quid..sell some to away fans now and then.. sold maybe half a dozen crowd shots to home fans in last few yrs and one players parents has recvently bought pics... thats it..

in fact i have had mnore stanley fans rip me off than be customers..

in other words i doubt i make 50 pence a week from sales of stanley pics over the yrs.. hardly worth creeping to is it?

Willie Miller 23-03-2009 18:54

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More importantly on Sat.....

How good was Adam Hartley startin songs from the Main Stand

cmonstanley 23-03-2009 18:58

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just had an idea why dont stanley appoint an official spokesperson .so when any questions come up they can explain.and then somebody else can become unofficial spokesperson:D:D:D:D and say no comment

K-P 23-03-2009 19:01

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i think the official spokesman for stanley is the answer machine :)

KiTChener 23-03-2009 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K-P (Post 695827)
i think the official spokesman for stanley is the answer machine :)


D'you mean they have an answer machine?
I understand they have to use somebody else's fax machine!!

fc:stanley 23-03-2009 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 695794)
Your spelling young man is atrocious........

as a full back, you are learning:D

BAAAAAAA!!!

GROW UP! GET A LIFE! FFS! :rolleyes::cool:

:smoky:

VALAIRIAN 23-03-2009 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 695823)
More importantly on Sat.....

How good was Adam Hartley startin songs from the Main Stand


He was a star in my opinion :) Absolutley top notch .....

cashman 23-03-2009 19:30

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right back on thread was a great victory on sat, against a top side, n alls well that ends well. n K-P ya can slag me off to yer hearts content tomoz, cos this is one match i will not be at, due to unavoidable commitments.:D

K-P 23-03-2009 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 695837)
right back on thread was a great victory on sat, against a top side, n alls well that ends well. n K-P ya can slag me off to yer hearts content tomoz, cos this is one match i will not be at, due to unavoidable commitments.:D

if yer not going then why not log onto accyweb and slag the club off while the game is on.. thats the done thing around here... oh dear.. wash my mouth out :)

MikeA 27-03-2009 08:00

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John Miles' goal made the Virgin Media 'Goals of the Week':
Virgin Media Sport | Football | League Two | Video Index :)

There's a link on there to Jimmy's goal against Darlo as well.

VALAIRIAN 27-03-2009 08:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 697224)
John Miles' goal made the Virgin Media 'Goals of the Week':
Virgin Media Sport | Football | League Two | Video Index :)

There's a link on there to Jimmy's goal against Darlo as well.

Cheers for that Mike ....... :) Nice to see some of Kenny's saves - could not see that far from Clayton End....:D


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