Coleman's Fears
 

This is a bit worrying, isn't it?

Coleman fears Accrington Stanley could go bust again (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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Worrying and probably true, as he said with the crowds going down, so does the budget and the results go down and so do Stanley. It's a cycle that will always happen unless someone can bankroll us to the Premiership so we can compete for crowds with Rovers, Burnley and PNE. But even if we get there tickets may prove too expensive for the average person from Accrington.

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The thing is what can we do ??? How do we make people come if when we have our best run of results in The Football League and still have crowds of 1139... There is also a chance to watch Stanley for £6 ish per match next season and we are struggling to double last years sales...

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We can not do anything the club have tryed with everything, with cheap early season tickets etc. Only thing i say is that when we had 3000 fans after winning the conferance, the club should of got people to sign up for season tickets etc, but even then we still couldnt be sure that they would sign up for a season ticket! I think the 1000 or so fans will do everything they possible can to stop the club going under again!

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What we could do with is somebody who genuinely loves the club doing something to help, like maybe buying £200,000 worth of shares...

...but there's nobody like that out there...is there? :rolleyes:

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i wouldn't say they have tried everything.:rolleyes: sometimes i reckon E.W. has got "Rocks" in his head.:(

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not strictly true Zorro,

This is by no means a criticism, because things are moving in the right direction this year, but we can do a hell of a lot more with the marketing. Year on year we learn things about how things can be done bigger and better than last year, and this year we have had far more pro-active pushing than ever before.

Next year I fully expect that things like the supermarket push will be done in more places and a little earlier. A synchronised launch at every major supermaket in the borough perhaps? done on the first weekend the prices are announced, with the trailer advert driving around town all morning?

Like I said, not a criticism because we have to remember this club in still in its infancy as far as the necessity for marketing is concerned - but still a good example of how much more can be done to have an effect on our income.

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What coleman will not consider is the fact some people feel very strongly they have been cheated.:( i'm near sure more would have been present on monday but fer that fact.

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Ok so if they club had suspended the two players, would another 1000 fans turned up as they did pre league 2? I very much doubt it, i understand with what your saying but i doubt Coleman is talking about the few who did not turn up on monday due to the recent events. I think he is talking about the people who turned up in the conferance and do not now! Just think of the wage and transfer budget and maybe the new stand we could off had, had we still be getting attandances of 2/3k every home game.

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If Coley wants a brighter future for the club perhaps he could start by persuading EW to start talking to Ilyas Khan...because, the way I see it, that's the only way this club is going to progress.

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maybe so, but the "Few" who did not go on monday are more considerable when the gates are low. also a sad fact is EVERY club gets bigger gates when successful, theres always "Bandwagon" jumpers at every club, no-one will change that. too me its not just the non- suspension its fielding a club captain who in my opinion cheated good fans by his alleged action, was never even stripped of captaincy until judgment day , that is rubbing yer nose in it to me. i agree with wynonie the best chance the club have of going forward is by talking to a guy who the leaving chairman will not, that is rank stupidity to me, since when did talking cost owt?:mad:

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I agree with what your saying that every 13/8 quid through the gate is needed but where have the fans gone, thats a question no-one can answer! Yeh it is bad that the chairman will not talk to someone who loves the club just like himself and willing to put money in after eric has left!

p.s what does you signature stand for?

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Missing fans whats happened to them good question.over the last 2 t 3 yrs how meany firms have shed jobs or even closed their doors for good,Rishie wires for one thomas cook another who else in and around the Hyndburn area must be hundreds if not thousands granted not all footie fans and what fans their is not all Stanley fans,When stanley won promotion exspectaions were high but 2/3 seasons of relegation dog fights have taken its toll coupled with poor home form,having said that we've played 100% better this season and with a bit more luck we may have been in or around the playoffs.

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We can't move forward until Whalley has gone, like it or not it's the truth.

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stanleys gates down, the fans aint going to premier- rovers gates down, both sides have poor home form, Dingles gates up - there having a great season, it aint rocket science, apart from yer hardcore, fans are very fickle Fact. sod all anyone can do about that. Recession aint helped, but thats a bit of a cop out to me.:)

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Must say that is true. Stanley must get every possible income available to them....

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Think your right about fans being fickle cashy, only the other week when Man U lost those two games there were some numpties calling for Fergie to be sacked, you can't get more fickle than that.

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As K-P always says, fans will always go to see a winning team. Once we gained promotion to the Football League, the club should have been ready with promotional packages to try to keep those fans in the knowledge that life would be tougher in League 2.

If the fans do not come to the club, the club must go out to the fans. And that is what it notably failed to do in the first season in League 2 - and since. In fact it has taken three years for that realisation to dawn, and in the meantime a lot of fans have been lost. The club's Google Page Ranking has improved but remains inadequate.

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How about ten years of success and shout for the manager to be sacked..

How about a club chairman who loves the club and as promised gets them into the fl and his reward is people telling him to go

Theres a lot more examples from stanley supporters not wanting to renew season tickets with lame excuses , refusing to go to games for the most bizzare reasons, Refusing to support the team away from for even more pathetic reasons.

Theres loads of fickledom (new word?) and you dont need to look very far from this mesageboard for perfect examples.

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How about the fact that some have worked very hard to promote the new season tickets, 600 sold is n increase on last season, the likelihood of more putting hands in pockets now will be significantly reduced following J.C.s dumb comment, think he should stick to what he does best (manage team on poor resources)n leave other stuff to folk who aren't as daft.:(

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A good run at the end of a mediocre season when people are worried about their cash is never going to be enough to bring the fickle back regularly. New season optimism will hopefully mean we start in August with about 1500 home support and a six game unbeaten run then, and maybe progress in the Carling Cup, might provide the sort of boost we need.

Beginning to dream, staying in touch with the playoff places towards Christmas might bring gates back towards Conference-winning levels. And drifting into fantasy land, presumably we could sell out the home leg of a play-off semi, but how many people does anyone think we could take to a final?

Imho, the best possible outcome for next season would be to get to the play-off final and lose, on the grounds that if we got promoted we would almost certainly struggle in League 1, and even if we'd been promoted on regular gates of 4000 plus, I bet a losing season in L1 would see us back down to 1500ish in next to no time. To get to Wembley would gain maximum interest (much more than automatic promotion) and should mean we start the following season from a good base and with a good chance of a second successful season.

Of course, everything depends on who is playing in red at the start of next season ....

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Not a betting man, by any chance? ;)

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Chimer .. a stanley fan wanting us to lose a game should be in the same boat as a stanley player betting we will lose :(

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Never doubt that I'd be there cheering us on for the win with all my heart - it'd just be my head worrying about what might happen next.

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I agree with the sentiment that Chimer has expressed - as I had the same concerns 3 years ago. However, we are still in the FL and will have been for at least 4 years :D

The point made though is that we were tinpot for the Conference and now we are ridiculously tinpot for L2. League 1 would just be absurd - would be a blast though!

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I can understand the thought behind not wanting to get ahead of ourselves... but wanting to see your team lose a game? i cant get my head around that :(

its probably me being awkward eh.. probably me picking an argument.. probably me spoiling the forum for everyone.. probably me being me.... i dunno... but i can honestly say.. hand on heart.. i would never want stanley to lose a game... sorry if that offends anyone :(

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it don't offend me anyway, can see chimers reasoning, but disagree if opportunity presents itself grab it wi both hands, theres many teams gone straight back down from premier, but i bet the fans were damn glad they had a shot.

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Difference is though! When you fall out the premier league you get about 30million. So droppin out of league 1 how much do you get. We would have a fair chance in league 1 we certainly have a few players who could play in league 1 but we still could not afford to pay them anymore than we are now. And we would proberly lose players but how good would it be in league 1 party party party aslong as we got to keep the half terrace.