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The Aldershot v Chester Report is a bit of an eye opener:

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bit of n understatement that haggis, reminds me of the owd saying- ya pay peanuts,ya get monkeys.:D

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Also interesting to note we didn't have the smallest gate ..

.. to save Bagpuss' keyboard, I'll add "according to the official figures" :)

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Talking of that (the gate) does anybody have this season's average gates, or access to them ???? :):)

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Our average over the twenty three league games comes out at 1414:)

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Cheers for that Pendle Red :):D

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cheers MCR, i reckon given stanleys resources that is the best route to take, just hope the players do.:confused:

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Leam Plays for new deal

I'd like to see him back next year think he is a very good defender when he plays and has been very unlucky with his injuries this year.

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He is one of the players (not Leam personally, but his injury situation) that the new wage structure is aimed at, has been paid all season, but only started 10 games..... Wonder how he feels about the new pay terms? Must think that they are OK as he wants to stay..:):) I agree with you MCR :) I would like him to stay, was a breath of fresh air when he came on on Saturday :D

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certainly is a player i would like to remain.:)

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Leam is a player I like and it would be a shame to see him go - but if he does it will fitness related rather than owt else. I dont think we carry anywhere near the same threat down the left without him foraging forward.

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keep liam let cav and rocky go plus get 3 year deals on kenny ryan and miles 4 me and the young lads that have been in and on as subs 2year .

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Back of LET today,

Wage budget will be cut by 25%
Stanley's annual wage bill of £900,000 will be around £675,000
thats a big chunck of the wage bill.

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whats just occured to me,whats happening to wages of players like P.Mullen? he is under contract already.:confused:

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Not good news, but inevitable I suppose, given the pitiful attendances we get.

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Also From Jimmy Bell's article in paper,
Jimmy Ryan is close to signing his two year deal he just wants his Dad to speak to the management about it.

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yeh but thats the way of it, check out prices fer Chelsea v Fulham, tickets available from £80, the dearest will probably be more than a F.E.S. season ticket:rolleyes: the fans get stuffed as well.:rolleyes:

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But thats a club like chelsea for you, They know they can charge what they want and people will pay to see the club, Just like united charging season ticket holders for cup games even if they dont want to go to them!

Stanley Budget cut

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Bradford City are doing a similar exercise, think quite a few of the smaller clubs will have to do the same,unless they are thick.

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Stockport County enter administration

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Link: Stockport County - Football - Sport - Manchester Evening News

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His wages will be paid by Bradford until his loan period ends. He's got another year left with Stanley.

Declaring a 25% cut in playing budget for the following season before a takeover isn't good news, is it.

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Not really if we are wanting to move forward i think thats why we have gone on that new pay scheme to save money, but with the crowds being low and the credit crunch i suppose we need all the money we can get!

an extra £200k wouldn't go a miss :)

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this really does take the mick doesn't it?

left, right and centre clubs are taking easy options instead of paying money back, meanwhile we struggle on and can't do the things we'd like because we try to live within our limited means :mad:

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Exactly and thats why i think we should start on +10 points for keeping within our means! :D

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yeh i know shaker, was meaning next season as he's already under contract, seems n iffy one to me.:confused:

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What do you mean cashy? He'll be a Stanley player so we'll pay his wages?

Ah, sorry, didn't click on. You wonder if the 25% budget cut affect his wages. I'd expect we'd ask him to take a pay cut or something?

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it won't apply to existing contracts.

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thats what i was assuming macca, that sure won't make the others very happy,i would think.:(

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In the Daily Star today in the teamtalk section it says robbie williams is missing (knee) and on loan striker craig lindfield has returned to Liverpool. Nothing on fishy about it.

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So who is up front for us today :confused::confused: Looks like McConville and Miles .....:) Another betting scandal on the way :rolleyes: Weakend side and that..... :)

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Jimmy Ryan and Chris Turner are first to sign new deals at the club. Jimmy signs for two years and Chris 1 year. Get in thats really good news

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Brilliant news that :D Lets hope we can get a few more signed up as soon as possible.. And get the Eric thing sorted :)

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Where did you read that MCR? Is it a done deal, or will it happen later this week, like the John and Ji9mmy saga?

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I was just going to post about players on your signature signing for the club :confused::confused: Then I have just realised you have not got one ????? Is there a new one on the way ?? :)



P.S. Hope we can keep mine :):):p

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if thats correct MCR thats what i call a major result.:theband:

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From back of the LET which am sure will be on the site later

Jimmy Ryan and Chris Turner have become the first players to finalise new contracts at Accrington Stanley... Talks with some players may continue during an end-of-season break in Portugal this week. Ryan last week voted as the club's player of the season was the first to be offered a new contract in March and the 20-year old mifielder has now committed himself to the Reds for the next two years.
Turner 18 has also agreed terms on a deal tokeep him a the FES next season after impressing since breaking into the first team in January. Jimmy Bell Says " I'm made up to get the deal sorted with Jimmy to secure him for another two years"

Let's hope the rest of the squad follow and sign up for another year or how ever long they may get offered. :D :D

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Thanks for the confirmation MCR. Very good news indeed.

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Excellent news...let's hope there's more to follow, and please, please, let's get Kenny's name on the dotted line!

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I think it is good that we have got these names to sign up and get the news out quickly :) Two of our best players this season, flair, goals, consistency, along with being new players with age on their side. Puts down a marker and hopefully we can get the other important names like Kenny and Phil to name but two ;) Think they are the four most important players we need to move forward (Of our current squad)

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Really good news that.
We need Kenny and Phil though.

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Adam Birchill has been released by Barnet could he do a job upfront for us along with mullin, lindfield, symes

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I noticed that and, for once, MCR ADIM I agree with you !!!!!! :)

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He has only scored 2 goals this season but he has only started 19 games and come on 19 times from the bench.
Also Lincoln City have realeased 7 squad players
goalkeeper Ayden Duffy, defender Frank Sinclair, midfielders Martin Pembleton and Owain Warlow, and forwards Ben Wright, Gary King and Geoff Horsfield are all now on the lookout for a new club.
Also some other clubs have let players go and in league one aswell.
Also Andy Mangan has been offered a new contract for next year at FGR

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Two Strikers who would provide goals:
Ryan Lowe-Chester City (still a year left on his contract)
Barry Conlon-Bradford City
Both around 30 years old, but with the service from midfield either one of them could I am sure bag 15-20 goals a season

Things budget wise I am sure will be tight and maybe meaning a bit of wheeling & dealing has to take place, but there will be gems out there........

We Just Gotta Find Them:)

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Proberly get Ryan Lowe cheaply as they are in the BSP now and are on about going in adminastration, but again it will be the wage! Coley has it hard now the 25% has gone just wish we could find someone to make that 25% back up to around 950k

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Not just someone, a whole lotta folks to come and stand or sit at the FES or whatever it is to be called next season.

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i just wonder if Mr Khans proposed £200K would have made a difference?:confused:

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Apparently that's the amount of debt we have, so maybe not.

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There's still no official announcement from the club about Ryan and Turner. Has it actually happened?

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was in club shop yesterday talking n was told it had.

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It must make some difference Tin Monkey, even if only to pay off the debt...:)

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Word of mouth eh? The way every company should be run.

I remember when Liverpool signed Torres and it was the talk of the Dock Road for days before the club announced it. :rolleyes:

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The point was that it wouldn't have boosted the playing budget.

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i just asked if anyone else had signed yet n was told only ryan n turner up to press. but the Torres business was all oer New Brighton first. P.M.S.L.

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talk of Chester reminds me of Anthony Barry.

we know that coley remembers his targets and always goes back in for players wo we miss out on, and we also know that he likes to bring players back into the fold after they have left us once before.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him back.

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Just seen on C fax Ryan Lowe has been released by Chester, also Barry Conlon fom Bradford

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Three more senior players, top scorer Ryan Lowe, club captain Paul Linwood and Kevin Ellison have all agreed to terminate theirs and will be looking for new clubs in the summer.

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Chris hasnt even signed on the dotted line yet and has no idea why it was even in the paper! Hes only been offered a new contract...

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thats a bit of a ******, still papers are papers, case of fingers crossed again then.:(

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No need, he loves the club and doesnt want to go anywhere! Hes not botherd about money either, he just wants to play for accrington stanley and to return the favour to the club for giving him his chance! Hes very loyal!
:drunk::cheers:

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From the Observer

Turner is over the moon to be offered a two-year deal! He says he cant wait to score his first league goal and might practice penaltys over the summer and put his name forward, i hope he does.
Kenny Arthur having very preliminary talks about a new contract and dunbavin is also having talks, chris king has a option in his contract which the club can take to keep him for another season, John Mullin also has another year on his contract after triggering an apperance clause. Richardson, Procter, Miles, Grant, Murphy, Bell ecpected to be in talks with new deals, Charnock bring back on loan or in a permanet deal but has one year left on his posh contract and it depends if they release him. Cav also belived to be in Colemans plans, Murdock retiring from football. Andy smith expecte to leave, although Adam Kay on loan could be offered something and FES scholar Alan burton offered a 1 year pro contract, Craig Lindfield he hopes to sign on a new loan deal and wants to get Symes back but admits its hard with the budget

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Not much change then..... Not bad news at all, just NEED a goal scoring striker :)

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well Shearer may be lookin fer a job in the near future.:D

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At £1M for eight matches :eek: not too sure we could afford him... :);)

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telegraph today quotes Coley saying that we will be trying to get Charnock but depends whether Posh want the same big fee for him. Might be good news that they have been promoted again as the big difference between Championship and League 2 revenue would more than offset their 50 grand 'loss'

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We'd have to get Liz busy with the 50/50 draw. ;)

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Very,very busy indeed! She would have to get a whole new wardrobe - well skirt - for Baggy...:D:)

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for some of the squad who played well last season, I think it is worth going that extra mile and putting quality above quantity!:eek:

It may prove to be the difference between struggling at the bottom end and putting in a serious challenge at the top end.

A serious challenge to all connected with Stanley but I think the coming season will prove to be a more level playing field than it has for many years for a lot of teams who are budget cutting us included, but the real challenge is being in the mix come April next year:)

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I'm already saving up:D

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If this parachute payment is forthcoming because Birmingham went straight back up to Premiership, then maybe we should all be supporting Reading in the playoffs to give us another £30,000, - that will pay for Charnock.

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Are you saying that if Reading get promoted Stanley get £30,000?:confused:

Sorry just read the other thread.

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Just read the other thread myself Baggie, no payment if Reading get promoted, so back to supporting the local boys, c'mon you Clarets

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With regard to Charnock, I'd have thought Posh would want to clear the decks having been promoted and would accept a knock down bid?? The £50K they quoted at the time of his loan move to Stanley may have dropped???:confused:

Does their promotion to the championship mean they would get the championship cut of Brum's parachute payment or league 1's cut ??:confused:

However that said, with a 25% wage cut, despite the proposed changes to the wage stucture (i.e. pay as you play incentives) it don't half make Coley's job even tougher.

Having been on the Bury message board, quite a few of their fans think that either Andy Morrell or Glyn Hurst "may be released" I'd certainly love to see Morrell at Stanley, but again it's the wages chestnut!! (apparently he turned down a league one outfit prior to signing for Bury last term, so they must have being paying him top dollar)

As for Conlon, I'm sure Grimsby would probably want his services. A good target man, always scores wherever he plays.But again wages.

Lee Hughes released by Oldham....probably would want astronomical wages and I'm not sure the bad boy image would go down too well.:o

Obviously it's an intersting time, when all clubs release player's no longer wanted.But as said before,with 25% cut off the wage bill, Coley's job in bringing new faces to Stanley will probably make the labours of Hercules look like a walk in the park !!!

Keepin' the faith in Coley !!!

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Andrew smith and Colin Murdock realesd by the club

Murdock going into the legal profession.

Good Luck to him and smith

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It's about time Jay Bell was released as well

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Here's what is in the LET today
Stanley pair face hearing wait

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Kallum Higginbottam on the transfer list, lots of other players from teams being realsed aswell

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Lots of players being released as Clubs cut their budgets. Bradford City's budget has been slashed by 33%
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/120520...wage-bill.html

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From the Observer
Coleman has spoken provisonally to Kenny about a new contract but Arthur is being chased by a number of higher Football League Clubs, Phil Edwards is currently mulling over a two year deal, John Miles has also been offered a contract but Notts County and Grimsby are belived to be in the hunt for the wideman, Kieran charnock has had interest from other clubs, Cavanagh has also had talks about a new contract

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None of that sounds that good, bearing in mind our playing budget. Just hope that a few others follow Jimmy and Chris....

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What would the starting players expect to be on salarywise at Stanley. Would it be an average of say £400 per week, and are there likely to be a few players heading towards the £1000 per week mark such as Mullin/Ryan/Charnock etc?

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If the £625k is just the playing staff budget (which I suspect it isn't) then for a squad of twenty that gives an average weekly wage of about £600.

I'd hazard a guess at an £800 p/w maximum for key players next season. Fringe/youth players will be on peanuts.

It's all just guesswork though.

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I can think of four players from the 1st division (Scotland) who are all excellent and would gladly sign for Accrington for £600 per week, possibly even less. They will soon all be out of contract and talentwise are all rated higher than Kenny Arthur was at the time he moved south to join the club.

There is no money in the game up here at all and its a great place to find real bargains if you know where to look. Look at Cardiff - sign striker Ross McCormack for 120k from Motherwell and now want £5mill a matter of months later for him.

Here's hoping we can perhaps get some steals from the non leagues - or even the Scottish leagues. (not really sure there's a difference there lol!!!).

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well colemeister i remember the pre 62 stanley had a wealth of scots, n damn good players they were as well, hope coley is checking out north of the border.:) mind suppose it helped the manager was a jock. lol

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Why not contact the club about setting up a scouting network north of the Border akin to Stanley's golden era under Walter Galbraith when Stanley became the first English League Club to field a team entirely of Scotsman garnered from the Scottish second and third tiers but with great attitude and performances that showed by Stanley being regularly Championship nearlies?

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I actually typed a letter to the club last night along these very lines and included a few names that would be well worth bringing down at least on a trial basis to establish whether Coley believes they can add anything to the team.

I do however feel that teams should really be made up of about 90% or so of their own nationality (I know technically we are all the one nation) with Stanley for example getting young English talent on loan from bigger sides (or guys that those clubs have released), perhaps one or two better players from non league, and obviously it would be even sweeter to produce our own talent via the youths etc. However, if you can add one or two jocks with some talent and bring them down then I'm all for adding them to the mix. With wage bills being cut fairly dramatically, I think it would be a great market to perhaps uncover one or two hidden gems.

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Bobby grant came through the ranks from age of 16 and so did turner but he was at burnley till he was 16. Winger JP Kalala who was a target for us in jamuary before going on loan to grimsby has been realesd by oldham so maybe he will be a target aswell

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looks like he's weighing his options (if any) not doing club any favours though is it?:rolleyes:

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It is always possible he's going to wait and see how his dodgy ankle reacts over the summer and into preseason, so as not to be tying the club to a contract if his ankle isn't up to it. :D

You are a sinister thinking bunch you lot!!!!:rolleyes::p:rolleyes:

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well what ya expect sparkie, i used to think M.P.s were beyond reproach.:D

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maybe see were is bro going to aswell then maybe 2 -for 1

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i agree with the don, don't understand why this takeovers taking so long though, so slightly incorrect is saying new owner. mind papers don't bother about facts.:D

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