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Kiwi John 25-05-2009 18:30

Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
The way I see it, as they loose more and more regularly, and provided we are winning our share (and thats a big proviso), surely the non die-hards will (might) drift on down to the FES? Don't know if Accys crowds can really get much lower so loosing neighbours could be a good thing....
... of course that assumes they will loose regularly...:cool:
But what effect will this have on us-any?:confused:

Wynonie Harris 25-05-2009 18:48

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Won't make much difference to us diehards. I'd never set foot in Turf Moor in a month of Sundays. However, if we go on a good run next season (a big "if" I know) will make it more difficult for us to pick up "floaters".

maccawozzagod 25-05-2009 18:49

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
we'll get an even bigger outnumbering at our annual pre-season drubbing!

baldy 25-05-2009 18:56

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 716465)
we'll get an even bigger outnumbering at our annual pre-season drubbing!

Only a friendly . and we can thank them for their money on the way out!

SamF 25-05-2009 19:01

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
I really think it's bad, there will be a fair few who'd rather go turf moor than the crown.

Pendle Red 25-05-2009 19:25

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
There are two sides to every coin

We can sit in a corner and rest on our botties, or go with flow and look upon it as maybe something the Club can build on.

If the normal pre-season friendly does take place, it could be the Clarets fans first chance to possibly have a look at any new signings and give their backing to the team on their achievements, So it may have an effect of pushing the gate up in a big way.

It may push Claret Reserve attendances up as one would imagine their second string will become even more stronger.

I would be looking to build stronger links with both our East Lancashire neighbours and possibly look at it in terms of maybe becoming a feeder club, we had three signings through this network this season all with varying degrees of success.

Lastly I have mentioned on a few occasion the Clarets "Premiership Pledge" now kicks in, giving the 7000 plus season ticket holders at the Turf free footie next season maybe Stanley could work out some sort of offer for a discounted Season Ticket scheme, or an odd game or two that are perhaps midweek and would normally be low key affairs offer a discount for walk on's from either Rovers or Burnley on production of their season tickets from their respective clubs.

There are plenty who view Stanley as their "second " team maybe now more than ever it is time to look forward not sideways.

cashman 25-05-2009 19:25

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
don't think it will make much difference,personally, only time will tell, bookies already have the dingles odds on to go right back down, they seldom make mistakes.:D

Morecambe_Red 25-05-2009 19:41

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
it might be good for you.

how often are Premiership matches played at 3pm on a Saturday ?

Wynonie Harris 25-05-2009 20:02

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Way back when we were non-league, seem to remember quite a few dingles coming on because it was quite OK to have such a lowly club as a "second team". When we went up, there was only one division between us, so we were a bit too close for comfort.

Perhaps, now we're in different worlds again, they'll be tempted to come back?

lancsdave 25-05-2009 23:13

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Don't think it will make the slightest difference. The only way you will get more Burnley fans or Blackburns going on Stanley is to watch a team doing well, as was proved when you won the Conference.

Outback Ozzy 25-05-2009 23:36

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 716520)
Don't think it will make the slightest difference. The only way you will get more Burnley fans or Blackburns going on Stanley is to watch a team doing well, as was proved when you won the Conference.

If memory serves me correctly, our crowds were on the way down in our third year in the conference!!!

Congratulations to Burnley FC by the way

PS I see the club managed to post congratulations on the fishy site quicker than they normally post things. Is this a sign of things to come??

pud 25-05-2009 23:43

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
It is congratulations from me to Burnley but hopefully it won't be a bad thing for stanley as i do have a soft spot for you unless you are playing Bury! Just to say do you think the stanley board would consider having more and more friday night games to get more home support or do you think that would lose you money from visiting fans?

Oggy 26-05-2009 08:52

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
[quote=Outback Ozzy;716522] If memory serves me correctly, our crowds were on the way down in our third year in the conference!!! quote]

Last five years average home attendance, starting 2004/5 season:
1537 (Conf),1895(Conf champions), 2260 (L2), 1633 (L2), 1415 (L2)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pud (Post 716523)
Just to say do you think the stanley board would consider having more and more friday night games to get more home support or do you think that would lose you money from visiting fans?

Well, Pud, we've done this one to death in previous close seasons. If anything, providing Saturday football, with a 3 o'clock KO, could be a selling point, but only marginally.

I'm with Lancsdave on this one, (congratulations, btw, :rose8:)

rude-dog 26-05-2009 09:16

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
big congratulations, worthy goal, a tremendous achievement, just goes to show what you can do with a bit of organization, hard work and one or two match winners. i think they might stop up as well.

fatgaz182 26-05-2009 09:44

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morecambe_Red (Post 716483)
it might be good for you.

how often are Premiership matches played at 3pm on a Saturday ?

I was gonna say Burnley won't be playing on Saturdays for a while:p

If they play the teams in europe later on in the season they will HAVE to play on Sundays because the other team will have to have at least 2 days to rest awwwwwww......

On that note well done Graham Alexander 61 games played this season, a REAL footballer and not a girlie one that needs a week off every couple of games.
:mosher:

Stanleymad 26-05-2009 10:00

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Posted via Mobile Device. Think we have more pressing things to sort like the club ownership, i do have not good vibes with stanley atm, think they could do with a trip to our newly promoted prem neighbour & get some serious lessons on how to run a proffessional football club & excellent club - fans relations! A more important need than worryin about floaters, cos even tho we may get some we're no good at maintaining it for them to come back regularly, just my opinion.

cashman 26-05-2009 10:19

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 716552)
Posted via Mobile Device. Think we have more pressing things to sort like the club ownership, i do have not good vibes with stanley atm, think they could do with a trip to our newly promoted prem neighbour & get some serious lessons on how to run a proffessional football club & excellent club - fans relations! A more important need than worryin about floaters, cos even tho we may get some we're no good at maintaining it for them to come back regularly, just my opinion.

thats good sense talking,therefore it will probably never happen.:):rolleyes:

Tin Monkey 26-05-2009 14:32

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Good fan relations? Maybe you should consulte the Burnley fans who queued for hours to get their tickets, only to be given a raffle ticket to come back the next day? ;)

Comparing Stanley to a professional club is meaningless. You might as well compare them to Chelsea and then start moaning when they fall short!

Revived Red 26-05-2009 16:29

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 716578)
Comparing Stanley to a professional club is meaningless.

Always a fan of irony!!

Tin Monkey 26-05-2009 17:55

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 716614)
Always a fan of irony!!

I didn't know whether to add a smilie or not, but decided against it in the end. :D

We all know that Stanley are tinpot, but they're our tinpot. ;)

Stanleymad 26-05-2009 18:49

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 716556)
thats good sense talking,therefore it will probably never happen.:):rolleyes:

Yeh i usually do somewhere/how but as rightly mentioned its meaningless, good for talking to the wall & thats about it:(

lancsdave 26-05-2009 22:32

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
The one advantage to Stanley fans who can't get to games is that you may get more 'live' coverage. Not only will Burnley games be less of a clash but I doubt 2BR will be allowed the same coverage rights as they have had.

Redraine 27-05-2009 07:58

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 716665)
We all know that Stanley are tinpot, but they're our tinpot. ;)


Like it!

slerpy 27-05-2009 17:07

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
i've mulled this over and now believe that Burnley joining the top flight is a positive, loads of players will be kicked out and will look for a club near at hand. Burnley will waste a mint of money on Carlos Kickabout footballers who can thread a ball through the eye of a needle and before you can say the ink is dry on the contract they see so much of the physio that a gay relationship starts!

lancsdave 27-05-2009 18:47

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slerpy (Post 716955)
i've mulled this over and now believe that Burnley joining the top flight is a positive, loads of players will be kicked out and will look for a club near at hand. Burnley will waste a mint of money on Carlos Kickabout footballers who can thread a ball through the eye of a needle and before you can say the ink is dry on the contract they see so much of the physio that a gay relationship starts!


Bit early in the day to be drunk, but each to their own ;)

carpon 27-05-2009 23:55

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
After talking to a Burnley fan at work, we did agree that some positives may come out of their promotion to the Moneybags league...

1) As others have said, a good deal of their home games are likely to be at times other than the traditional 3PM Saturday K.O. Maybe the odd Claret with nowt better to do on one of these such Sats will be tempted to stray down to the F.E.S. Also tie in with that as others have said,when Burnley come up against a side with european commitments they won't play on a Saturday. Add to that International Breaks when the Premier League never play, there's the potential for quite a few Saturdays when these folk may be tempted to come along and take in a STANLEY game.:confused:

2) Burnley will presumably be entering a reserve side in the "premier league reserve division" and the "premier league youth leagues".As said before,maybe increased revenue from Burnley for allowing them to use the F.E.S.:confused:

All this does tie in with the fact that, as said before,what STANLEY put on offer has to be attractive enough to tempt these folk along.Which brings me on to my final thought.....and I know the concept may not be popular with some....but here goes......

If, taking into account that,as Pendle Red has mentioned earlier in this thread ROVERS have lowered THEIR season tickets in an attempt to tempt more fans to Ewood, and BURNLEY have 7000 folk who will be getting a FREE season ticket at Turf moor next season,it makes perfect sense to offer an incentive to offer these folk on producing their respective season tickets a reduced entry fee to take in a game at the F.E.S. next season.Without knowing pay on the gate charges for next season, Maybe charge them in the region of £6- £8 for reduced entry?????:confused:

Maybe one for the commercial dept. to consider, but I, like Pendle Red pointed out earlier,would have thought the potential to put an extra couple of hundred on the gate would at least be worthy of a little contemplation......

Your thoughts please one and all:D

lancsdave 28-05-2009 06:42

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpon (Post 717046)
maybe increased revenue from Burnley for allowing them to use the F.E.S.:confused:


Oh oh, the money vultures are circling already :D

I heard the gate receipts from the pre-season are the fee for the use of the ground, so you may get some increase, presuming there is one this year.

Brentford Fan 30-05-2009 10:03

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
It has to be bad for you guys as anyone who might have thought of coming to The FES will go to Turf Moor instead.

VALAIRIAN 30-05-2009 10:11

Re: Burnley up-Good or bad for Stanley?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brentford Fan (Post 717684)
It has to be bad for you guys as anyone who might have thought of coming to The FES will go to Turf Moor instead.

I pressume you mean fans??? Not players :rolleyes::confused::)


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