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VALAIRIAN 24-06-2009 18:26

Fans Forum
 
From Fishy Site :)

Fans Forum
Wednesday 24th Jun 2009
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Thursday 2nd July
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Accrington Stanley will be holding a Fans Forum on Thursday 2nd July in the Buy-the-House Lounge here at the club.

In the week in which the first team return to training ahead of the 2009/10 season, David O'Neill and John Coleman will be on hand to answer questions from supporters.

Doors open at 7.30pm for an 8.00pm start, and all all supporters are welcome to come along.



Maybe get some answer's to some of those question's :):):)

Bagpuss 24-06-2009 18:37

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This is a good move but I hope it's not like last year were Rob Heys tried to stage manage the whole night, I've got something on that night so I need to do juggling to try and get there, hope so.

VALAIRIAN 24-06-2009 18:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 724204)
This is a good move but I hope it's not like last year were Rob Heys tried to stage manage the whole night, I've got something on that night so I need to do juggling to try and get there, hope so.

If its anything to do with your AVATAR :) Then I suggest that you send somebody along to the fans forum with your qusetions.....:D:D

Mr T 24-06-2009 19:41

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Hopefully a top event and the AccyWeb faithful will be able to make it???

Make yourself known, and the 1st drinks on me!!!

(Limited to the 1st 100!!!!:rolleyes:)


PS My tea and coffee are superb in the Gazelle!!
Good job we're in the BTH Sportsbar!!)

maccawozzagod 24-06-2009 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 724221)
Make yourself known, and the 1st drinks on me!!!

(Limited to the 1st 100!!!!:rolleyes:)


what if you're already known? :p

Mr T 24-06-2009 19:49

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If your already known, your drink will be waiting!!

Pint of Lager Sir???

harwood red 24-06-2009 21:18

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Damn it, I will not be able to make this event as I will be away... look forward to all the feedback...

so who's gonna take notes??? :rolleyes::D

Grimps 24-06-2009 21:59

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will not be on anyway he as left. taxi

lancsdave 24-06-2009 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimps (Post 724261)
will not be on anyway he as left. taxi

He hasn't left Grimps. The other thread was a wind up

Grimps 24-06-2009 22:08

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i now i was just going a long with it

fc:stanley 24-06-2009 23:11

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Il be making that to see whats happening, for people that dont go etc i can always take a recording device with me , obivously record it and post it on here?

Bagpuss 26-06-2009 20:01

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The way things are going this week with the two appointments on the commercial side and players signing up Mr Coleman and O'Neill are going to have a good night on Thursday. If I do manage to make it I'm struggling with questions to ask, To be honest despite what certain people think I get no pleasure from having a whinge, the only thing that still niggles me is how much involvement Eric still has. We do still need a major sponsor and the betting scandal hasn't gone away yet but things are looking up.:)

I had a chat with a manager at Hollands Pies to see if they would be looking for a new team to put some money into now the Burnley contract has ended. He said there was little chance of dealing with Stanley as they owed money and they were annoyed by Whalley which was why they stopped all dealings with the club. The money that was available is going to 5 or 6 charities instead, nice one Eric.:(

Oggy 26-06-2009 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 724716)
... If I do manage to make it I'm struggling with questions to ask ...... the only thing that still niggles me is how much involvement Eric still has....

Maybe you could ask if, and when, he's going to Chester. ;)

[see Chester City thread]

cashman 26-06-2009 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oggy (Post 724756)
Maybe you could ask if, and when, he's going to Chester. ;)

[see Chester City thread]

well i will run him yon.:rolleyes:

VALAIRIAN 27-06-2009 07:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 724716)
The way things are going this week with the two appointments on the commercial side and players signing up Mr Coleman and O'Neill are going to have a good night on Thursday. If I do manage to make it I'm struggling with questions to ask, To be honest despite what certain people think I get no pleasure from having a whinge, the only thing that still niggles me is how much involvement Eric still has. We do still need a major sponsor and the betting scandal hasn't gone away yet but things are looking up.:)

I had a chat with a manager at Hollands Pies to see if they would be looking for a new team to put some money into now the Burnley contract has ended. He said there was little chance of dealing with Stanley as they owed money and they were annoyed by Whalley which was why they stopped all dealings with the club. The money that was available is going to 5 or 6 charities instead, nice one Eric.:(

If you cannot make it Baggy, that is one question to be asked... If Hollands have sorted out for this year, then Stanley need to get working now on next year...

Haggis316 27-06-2009 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 724206)
I suggest that you send somebody along to the fans forum with your qusetions.....:D:D

Yes Bagpuss why don't you send your Avatar with the questions?

Bagpuss 27-06-2009 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 724812)
Yes Bagpuss why don't you send your Avatar with the questions?

I will see what see wants to do but then if I turn up you will be disappointed.:)

Tin Monkey 01-07-2009 20:07

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OK, this is tomorrow night. I hope there's a decent turn out for this one. Show a bit of interest in the new proceedings.

I've heard the Darwen Based Supporters Society are having a trip over, so that should boost the attendance. :D

fc:stanley 01-07-2009 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 725915)
OK, this is tomorrow night. I hope there's a decent turn out for this one. Show a bit of interest in the new proceedings.

I've heard the Darwen Based Supporters Society are having a trip over, so that should boost the attendance. :D

Long trip that, such dedication!! :mosher:

fatgaz182 01-07-2009 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 725922)
Long trip that, such dedication!! :mosher:

Just re-shoed the horse and loaded the cart.:)

Doug 02-07-2009 15:13

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Work prohibits the trip over tonight, any chance of someone recording the meeting or at least running off some notes for us stay at homes.

LongLostSon 02-07-2009 15:27

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Yeah, really wanted to drive 'up home' for tonight but some important stuff demanded my prescence down south. Like others have said, would really appreciate a report on the proceedings. If Q's dry up, how about tackling the impression given that fans who live 'n breathe Stanley are treated as turnstile fodder with no rights to know anything ?

fc:stanley 02-07-2009 16:02

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Il be going tonight so doug and longlostson il try and record it for you.

fc:stanley 02-07-2009 21:36

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Only stayed for an hour and then had to leave but they answered the questions very good especially John Coleman!

For 40 minutes of this i recorded it, its not the best recording but you can deffinatly hear the answers better than the questions asked. Just turn your speakers on very loud to hear it more clearly!! :)

I think its better to have real player to listen to this. Just click on the link and download. Thanks :)

RapidShare: Easy Filehosting

LongLostSon 02-07-2009 22:44

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Thanks fc - apparently my realplayer needs extra components but their site must be down at present - will try again tomorrow.

cashman 02-07-2009 22:55

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agree with F.C. stayed whilst the death n am convinced the club is moving in the right way, given circumstances.

maccawozzagod 02-07-2009 23:19

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to homest, tonight esd vreyffzfgkl;jfgsjk'g;lgf'; bollovkd i ewill post tomottoeW"£

fc:stanley 03-07-2009 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 726223)
to homest, tonight esd vreyffzfgkl;jfgsjk'g;lgf'; bollovkd i ewill post tomottoeW"£

Someone had a very good time i see :rolleyes: :thepint::thepint:

Tin Monkey 03-07-2009 06:55

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I think it needs to be widely publicised that once the final takeover takes place (today apparently), then Eric will have no connections with the club at all. David said he'd have 0% shares. The sooner we can get this message out, the better.

maccawozzagod 03-07-2009 09:21

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from what I can remember:

the main message from The Don was that he aims to ensure that the club becomes self sufficient. This will be done via an increase in staff behind the scenes that will allow everyone to do the jobs that they are paid to do. He cannot and will not be a sugar daddy type chairman that ploughs money in every time there is a problem so the club has to be able to keep its own house in order. I thought that David struggled a bit in the first half. Maybe he just isn't used to public speaking but his answers were perhaps a little short in places, where previous people may have waffled for 5 minutes in order to avoid answering the question. In saying that his answers were short they were also straight to the point. This may have resulted in answers not being the ones that people wanted but at least they were blunt and honest. In the 2nd half he seemed to be a little more at ease and he was able to talk a little more in depth when answering questions. I can't remember specific questions that he was asked but he did mention that he wanted to talk to all parties concerned who were able to help out the club and this included the FF. As Tin Monkey mentioned, he also talked about EW having no active role to play in the club once the takeover is officially completed. He was hoping that this would happen as of today. He said that his side of things was signed off and only required the solicitor to formally finalise the deal and rubber stamp it.

John and Jimmy discussed plenty with regards to the playing staff. Jimmy was particular adamant that we are not far from a side capable of reaching the play offs. They both admitted that many mistakes had been made since reaching the football league but each time they had learned from them and this was evident in a far better performance last season - although it was disappointing that we didn't get more reward in terms of points and placings. Peter Cavanagh definitely has a part to play this season providing the hearing goes well. Michael Symes should be signing today. Finances were a worry as we had been quite close to many good signings recently but had eventually lost out to better offers from other clubs - and usually for not much more money. Ryan Lowe was given as one example. They had been disappointed with Kenny Arthur going to Rochdale, as they only found out via text once the deal once done. They cited camaraderie and belief as some of the reasons why players did choose to come here. They sell themselves before selling the club to potential new players. Once the player knows how passionate those two are it becomes reasonably easy to sell the club and get the signing. They also both re-iterated how important the fans are at the club and that players enjoy knowing that we have a small, but noisy fan base that backs the players 100%. Coley also mentioned how disappointed he was with how things had panned out for the club since the return to the FL. He couldn't believe how crowds had plummeted rather that increased, and that he personally struggled with having had to defend the club for months with things like the betting scandal etc.


In summary the management staff really are a bonus to the club. Its not just that they have a talent of sorts to be able to churn out teams that can comepte against all the odds. For me its the fact that they truly do live and breathe and the club. They are due a testimonial this year and the club had granted them that, but they had decided to leave it for the time being because the club itself needs all their input. They both talk passionately about their jobs and they both still enjoy it. Its not a job to them - its a way of life.

For The Don I would say that he has his work cut out but it is by no means a job that he can't do. I think that he has the ideas and the enthusiasm to carry out the tasks that are required to bring the club back to its full potential. He knows that he is only as good as the team that surrounds him, and for that reason he is trying to bring in the right sort of people who can and will be successful in the positions that need filling. There is about to be a second person in the commercial department for example.

With a bit of luck behind them, as well as the unity of the fans, our off the field exploits should start to bear fruit and this will enable us to be more competitive on the field. This season may be a flying by the seats of our pants experience - but wold we have it any other way?

Doug 03-07-2009 09:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 726207)
Only stayed for an hour and then had to leave but they answered the questions very good especially John Coleman!

For 40 minutes of this i recorded it, its not the best recording but you can deffinatly hear the answers better than the questions asked. Just turn your speakers on very loud to hear it more clearly!! :)

I think its better to have real player to listen to this. Just click on the link and download. Thanks :)

RapidShare: Easy Filehosting

Cheers FC: Stanley, that was a great help and very informative although I couldn’t hear many of the questions. What I look forward too now is the recollections and feelings of those who were also there on the ground.

I was a little disappointed in the respect of the ASSF and possible inaction on the behalf, legalities aside someone should have been in day to day contact with the club. I really do want the ASSF to play a major part in the clubs future and form a whole in terms of partnership with Accrington Stanley, however, if there is no clear movement soon then any funds pledge by myself to the ASSF will go directly to the Club in the form of direct sponsorship, purchases etc.

Good to hear David’s comments and commitment to taking the club forward, however I would like to hear more on the subject. John & Jim, Thank you for your passion towards our club, I’m still going over the recording in some areas following a lost in the translation but be assured every true Stanley heart is behind both of you and the new regime and your efforts won’t go unrewarded.

One day.

Doug 03-07-2009 10:03

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Cheers Macca; keep it coming.

My remarks regarding the ASSF are meant to be probing and really are aimed at getting an update and a battle plan for joining forces with the Club, if the club hasn’t heard anything then I concerned.

maccawozzagod 03-07-2009 10:13

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the comments made by The Don regarding the ASSF were a little unfair I thought. Contact has been made and discussions, both face to face and via telephone have been made. What was said and is true was that no clear proposal had been made. Part of that will be because the goalposts have changed on numerous occasions over the four weeks since the ball started rolling. Things will change though very shortly...

Doug 03-07-2009 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 726266)
the comments made by The Don regarding the ASSF were a little unfair I thought. Contact has been made and discussions, both face to face and via telephone have been made. What was said and is true was that no clear proposal had been made. Part of that will be because the goalposts have changed on numerous occasions over the four weeks since the ball started rolling. Things will change though very shortly...

Cheers Rob; I'm sure we're all waiting for movement.

VALAIRIAN 03-07-2009 10:59

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Thanks for the info Macca.....:):) Seems like good news all round :)

cashman 03-07-2009 14:18

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a positive thing i have noticed,the "Fishy" site is now being updated much better, long overdue, but welcome.:)

Revived Red 03-07-2009 15:00

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Many thanks, macca.

Was anything asked/said about the two new individuals involved in promotional work?

maccawozzagod 03-07-2009 15:08

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yes, David said that they are permanent additions to the staff. He did say how many hours they did but I can't quite remember as I was ordering drinks at the time (hic). I think he said that Granville does 1 day at the moment but this is about to increase to 2 1/2 which is all that his position requires. Marcelle (who was there) I think he said was full time.

fc:stanley 03-07-2009 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 726314)
Many thanks, macca.

Was anything asked/said about the two new individuals involved in promotional work?

The audio i have uploaded for you to download tells you all about them. Also something about a guy from blackpool pleasure beach is suppost to be helping us out who has alot of contacts apparantly :)

Revived Red 03-07-2009 22:58

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Thanks again, macca. And thanks fc:stanley. Unfortunately, the audio is not very clear in parts.

maccawozzagod 04-07-2009 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 726321)
Also something about a guy from blackpool pleasure beach is suppost to be helping us out who has alot of contacts apparantly :)

he might have experience but he's never been on the Accrington Stanley rollercoaster :rolleyes:. Proper white knuckle ride here :)

Haggis316 04-07-2009 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 726414)
Thanks again, macca. And thanks fc:stanley. Unfortunately, the audio is not very clear in parts.

You're lucky you heard it at all

After two failed downloads cos it didnt like AOL and another one when Real Player aborted part way through the necessary updates I was told I had exhausted all my permitted download attempts.

fc:stanley is there any other file sharing site you could post it to please?

K.S.H 04-07-2009 20:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 726303)
a positive thing i have noticed,the "Fishy" site is now being updated much better, long overdue, but welcome.:)

Just wish they'd answer emails too :mad:

Got the posters here waiting to be uploaded but I want to confirm "on the gate" prices, friendly prices etc first, sent 2 emails but no reply's

cashman 04-07-2009 22:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 726610)
Just wish they'd answer emails too :mad:

Got the posters here waiting to be uploaded but I want to confirm "on the gate" prices, friendly prices etc first, sent 2 emails but no reply's

there was some mention of e-mails i think ken, think "whoever" aint there every day at the moment,

K.S.H 12-07-2009 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 726650)
there was some mention of e-mails i think ken, think "whoever" aint there every day at the moment,

Well about 3 or 4 week later after sending them I've still no reply, still no mention of "on the gate" prices, no mention of Friendly prices.
Doesn't look like they want the posters on, they have removed the "web team" page now, haven't tried logging in and uploading one.
I'll stick em on my own web space and post the links to them on here.
I even designed some PDF direction pages that could be downloaded, complete with maps, bus service, pubs etc. emailed them to the club, NO RESPONCE
I'll look at puting the league table on my web-space too.

Haggis316 12-07-2009 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 726321)
a guy from blackpool pleasure beach is suppost to be helping us out who has alot of contacts apparantly :)

If its Trevor Hemmings you are talking about he would have.


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