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C'mon Stanley... (Pete, I'll be relaying scores to Lee .)

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Posted via Mobile Deviceevening kj here's hoping for a good match, i hear u have adopted lee for bit lol

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Yea, Mel, nice bloke. He's now at the Napier Prison-thats a backpackers , on a work for accomadation package. I had a lovely football/ booze weekend with him and hopefully he will be with us again for christmas, though might see him watching the wee Stanleys this Saturday in the 9 aside tournament which is over his way.

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Hi Chimer...off to work shortly,but see you on here for weekend games when daylight savings 'reverse' in our countries.

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And hi to you if you've not gone yet ...

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oh ******!!! 0-1 down steve guinan

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..&**^@#%$^&TONUPY(*&_KMKJB$W$#TYI&

thats it, I'm off to the dreaded 4 lettered word starting with w

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Posted via Mobile Device. ****** grr

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double grrrr penalty to cobblers. 0-2

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Posted via Mobile Device. Blimey we must be playing **** then :(

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Work canned for a few hours (raining),, am i going to be here to withess a great ASFC fightback.?

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hopefully kiwi mate

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Posted via Mobile Device. Hope it doesn't mean i'll have to frog march up there in my pjs for luck of goal lol

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Sparkie..."Hold the texts"

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Posted via Mobile Device. I can really hear accy mad u know lol

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Posted via Mobile Device. Ht sounds like the ref is a banker again judging on the jeering from the crowd.

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So far I've heard lots of Accymad and quite a bit of Shakermaker too, but I do know Accymad can't stand tonights ref Steve Bratt, then again niether can I!!!

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Posted via Mobile Device. Ah so the ref is a banker then lol.

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Anyone heard what the 'crowd ' is?

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Posted via Mobile Device. No not heard the number, but can hear the noise from the crowd lol

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Posted via Mobile Device. Thats it radio off bloody heck im ****ed off now 3 nil down at home to conference league team!

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Reality check me thinks.:o

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stanley penalty by jimmy ryan shoots wide DORK!!!!!

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1561 on the BBC:
BBC SPORT | Football | My Club | A | Accrington | Live Text

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1561...thanks MIKE...would that be our worst home loss since returning to the league? Sad if so seeing as its arguably our strongerst squad.

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I think reality is going to be better than that after we have licked our wounds otherwise it would be heaven help us.:eek::eek::eek:

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Referee was the worst I've ever seen absolutely terrible. Their penalty should never have been given - their fat bastard forward leaned on Phil and Phil crumpled under the weight no chance in hell there was any wrong doing by the Stanley man - should have been the other way around if anything.

The linesman at the main stand side however was even worse than the referee, from now on I could only trust him to officiate fictional games and even then I wouldn't be confident. Didn't make a right decision all night - first half half a dozen blatent offsides ignored - second half foul after foul after foul on our forwards, didn't flag when we were offside and combined with the referee to ignore as clear a penalty as you'll see this century.

****ing disgraceful that prats like these can ruin proffesional games.

Stanley dominated possession and created more chance. Scoreline does not reflect the game. Only wish stanley had played it on the floor - we can beat anyone are football its longball we're ****e at.

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Dominated possession? - maybe, but what good is that when you play the ball sideways continually in front of their midfield? Alternatively a big hoof up to Mully from where it is anyone's guess where the ball will end up. I suppose the plan is for Kee to get on the end of his efforts, but the poor lad hasn't got a chance of knowing where to position himself. I thought our good, quick movement up front towards the end of last season, when Mully was loaned out, was going to be the much-needed start of a new era but no - the quick lads like Turner, McConville and Symes have to warm the bench.
How Bobby Grant gets to start in front of our other two cracking wingers is a mystery. Even more of a mystery is how he got man of the match! I have never seen a player give away so much possession like he does by treating the ball like a hot potato, and as for his free kicks, well......... Rant over, but please, please Coley - change things round up front on Saturday.

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Well, that wasn't fun!

The team was a shadow of the side that beat Lincoln. We started poor and ended worse. Distribution was poor, movement was poor, energy levels were non-existant. Kee wasn't fit at all and the rest of the players looked knackered from the first minute. Granted, the officials were pretty terrible but we didn't do ourselves any favours at all. It would take too long to note the failings of each individual so let's keep it to the few positives: Kempson played well again and until the clumsy challenge towards the end Joyce was equally solid. Ultras sounded good tonight. Got free chips.

Northampton Town have got to be the most average side ever to win three nil.

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An awful match with the ref and linesmans as bad as each other!
No-one impressed at all, Miles tried in the first half and gave up in the second but Darren Kempson was always getting stuck in there and if it wasnt for his awful balls then he wouldnt of had such a bad game!
Jimmy Ryan was also terrible first half and like me and MCR was saying , he should always play in the centre , its his best position and played well in the second half!
Proccy did ok aswell, trying to take lead and spur his team on!
The worst dissapointment tonight was this game plan all night to hoof the ball up to Mullin and see what would happen! It was awfull!!! Did anyone else notice? Smash it up and hope he would head it on and we would get a chance! It didnt work yet we kept doing it! What happened to the down on the ground football we played against Rotherham, Walsall and Lincoln? We outdid them teams playing that football yet we change the game plan!
Chris Turner needs to get involved more aswell and Kee doesnt look fit at all!
Not the best game but Roll on Aldershot!!!!! :)

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stanley dominated sod all to all us lot, the best team won simple as, as fer the penalty we thought it was blatant n as the last man was lucky not to be sent off, ya could tell by a country mile Northampton were playing in a higher grade last season, the dark lad at right back was outstanding.ok the ref wasn't great but no excuses neither were stanley,Mullen had a shocker totally not at the races tonight, coley has no excuse to me fer leaving him on the pitch, apart from the fact it must be his lovechild.:rolleyes: why they started larruping the ball up in the air after 25 mins or so is mind blowing, what mullen did win had no direction at all, just bouncing anywhere off his napper.:rolleyes: apart from that spell i didn't think stanley were that bad, northampton were just better. they have played some good football so far this term playing on the ground, lets hope they revert to that on sat.:)

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"if it wasnt for his awful balls then he wouldnt of had such a bad game!",
Bit unfair to get so personal.;)

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That seems a fair assessment, oh and there were some lovely bats flying around the Clayton End roof!!

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Haha , sorry had to be done ;):p

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I think Joyce is wasted at right back. We need him spraying the ball about in midfield and linking defence and attack. I also think Winnard is much better at right back than on the left, so bring back Chris King with instructions not to pass to the opposition.:D
Captain has to warm the bench for me, I'm afraid.

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it amuses me how so few people have such a widely differing view of the same game!!

but I am no different to the rest of you so here's my two pences worth.

Taken in a nutshell we were pretty crap tonight BUT we conceded early to an absolute cracker of a goal and then not long after -despite dominating most of the open play we gave away a cheap penalty. My view of it was that it was a penalty about fiv eminutes before the ref actually blew! Edwards had tried to kick him in the head then pulled and pulled until eventually he pulled the guy over. At two nil down we were pretty nacked against a well drilled side. However their goalkeeper has still had to pull off two fantastic saves, Mullin and Grant have missed what appeared to be sitters from a couple of yards out, and we have ridiculously managed to miss a fifth penalty out of six.

Their third goal was comedy defending again though. Long throw that we have allowed to bounce three times before backing as far away from the striker as possible. It was only going in the back of the net and the once again stationary Martin was unable to save us.

I think that Martin needs to be a little quicker at coming off his line.
Joyce is a damned fine defender when it comes to distributing it out - its just the defending bit he struggled with.
Grant was crap tonight and how he won MOM only the drunken match sponsors will ever know.
Kee didn't look fit but was still the main threat we had in the first half and he will be pished at getting subbed again.
Mullin will know that he has had better games and few more ineffective.
Coley has to ensure that this pathetic long ball shy t does not rematerialise. And somebody needs to tell him that you are allowed to use more than one substitute particularly when losing 2-0.
Turner needs to stop thinking about why he agreed to sign a new two year deal.

Sounds negative? yes it is but as I said earlier, I don't think Northants were 3-0 better than us and we can consider ourselves hard done by - no matter how crap we were tonight

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Pretty poor performance this evening.........back to spraying the ball around midfield,back to the defence,then lumping it over the top towards Mully...........it didnt work last season so why try it again this time?

That said,its only one game.............and its early days yet as regards the team gelling as a unit.

Maybe playing Kee from the start was not the best thing as He never really looked comfortable...........still injured?

Hopefully just a 'blip' and we will return to the 'football playing side' we were on Saturday.

Still optimistic :):):)

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i can only think kee was perhaps given n hour cos not fully fit.:confused: what i could not comrehend was his replacement, cannot understand why symes has been brought here, just to warm the bench?:confused: must be well brassed off, he aint kicked a ball in anger yet. WHY?:(

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Slightly more calm now - got to say there are signs of improvement from last season - 2-0 down and we kept on playing - not well but we kept playing, last season it would have been heads down and prepare for the onslaught, today we hit the post twice and had two solid penalty shouts - step in the right direction - credit to the positive spirit around the club.

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I asked earlier if this was our heaviest 'Home' defeat since return to the Big Time? Anybody?

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Totally agree,we have two left backs at the club,yet plays Winnard (a right back/centre half) at left back,and Joyce a midfielder at right back to accomodate our new captain.

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Think we had the same scoreline in home matches against Darlo and Lincoln a couple of seasons ago, John.

Just one positive from a pretty dreadful night was the 1,561 gate. Just for a change we didn't have the lowest gate of the day...that honour went to Barnet, but, then again, they were only playing Morecambe. ;) The 300 "casuals" obviously liked what they saw on Saturday and came back for more...sadly, they didn't get it and unless the lads turn in a good result at Aldershot and/or even West London, they'll disappear quicker than a snowball in a heatwave. :(

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The answer is that Coley, having seen Mullin nod in a sitter against Walsall, predicted a goal glut from him. All we have seen is a string of missed chances from him and slow, ineffectual play. For how much longer can this marvellous club servant's decline continue to hold back our development?:confused:

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The previous post is the most relevant of the thread, new fans will not come out in numbers to support rubbish performances for very long. Increased gates are vital for Stanleys recovery and ambitions.
Hopefully last night was a one off(at home at least) and its onwards and upwards. I am very optimistic that this squad has the potential for a top half position in the table.

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The above was a reply to Redraine

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Be careful Redraine! It strikes me you're in danger of criticising Golden Boy! However, I do agree that, at the moment, we're saddled with a player who can't run. can't control the ball with his feet, heads it just about anywhere except to his own men and .... what's worse ... dictates our style of play! Yes, he has been a great servant, but I'm afraid the emphasis now must be on "has-been".

By the way, on a completely different tack, I can only assume that last night's man of the match award was done by the RNIB!!

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To quote my old mate Andy Gray, "goals change games". If we'd have scored in the first half when we had a few good chances, then the game may well have played out differently. Northampton were a decent side, but under pressure after some poor results in the early season. However, the 2 goals relatively early on in the game settled their nerves and they cruised to a fairly easy victory in the end, but they could have fallen to pieces if we'd have put those chances away.

We need to start taking our chances, and we had a few good chances last night. I'd like to see Symes given a chance to play with Kee up front. He's quite mobile and he does win headers and flick-ons. One problem may be Mullin's wages. Is he earning too much to be sat on the bench?

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one way or another we have to pay Mullins wages, to me it doesn't matter where he sits or stands. If its good for the team, therefore posssibly the gate receipts, then Mullin must be in the best position for us.

Sadly Symes won't be the answer to Mullin.

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Typical Coleman, he HAS to play players out of position, it's his nature. First game away at Rotherham we played well, then everything had to change in order to bring in Prancing Proccy.

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We have been saddled with a player who can't run, can't turn and shoot, can't control the ball with his feet, etc. etc. for the last couple of seasons, and it's about time Coley recognised this fact. We played a lot better without him last season but now it's back to the old story - lump the ball upfield for Mully to head it on to nobody or hold it up and pass it to nobody. Why on earth didn't Coley sub him last night and change the pattern of our play, it obviously wasn't working as it was.

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Although I agree with you, we have to work with what we have. Symes is younger, quicker, tall, more mobile and can hold the ball up. That's why I suggested trying with him as a starter.

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Last night was not the same team as i have watched for the first 3 games. Why change a winning side and put kee back in. Why not bring him on if we were losing in the 2nd half. we were losing so why didnt he put Symes on upfront with Kee or Mconville and take Mullin off. to be fair on bobby he has played really well past couple of games and to say he shouldnt of got MOM, i dont think you could of chose another player on the pitch who should of got it. We know they can play alot better than that as they have shown. Why do when we go 1-0 down do we play the miss the midfield hit it up to mullin, like FC STANLEY said Ryan always plays the best in the centre as he did 2nd half so keep him their. If coley is going to make changes for staturday i wouldnt start with mullin and put symes on with kee or king, where is Lindfield Liverpool has realsed him and Bell was saying we are trying to sign him. whats happen to Turner aswell he has played less than 45mins all season and last half the season he played really good. Just hope this was one bad day the office and on saturday and tuesday against qpr we play alot better. A top 10 team we have when they play well. i'd like to see on saturday Martin, Edwards, Winnard, Kempo, Joyce, Turner, Ryan, Miles, Grant, Symes, Kee/King to start. good atmosphere yesterday and they brough afew aswell.

Jonny coleman's red and white army!!

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No-one played particularly well last night, they all looked knackered from the start so why for some people is the blame all down to Paul Mullin. Unless I missed something, I could have sworn he played in the previous three games that we were all enthusing about - now all of a sudden he's a has-been who shouldn't be on the pitch. Bet none were saying that when he nodded in the winner against Walsall.
All the players should take a share of the blame for last night's poor performance as I'm sure they know theirselves - as for Symes being a replacement for Mullers, sorry but based on what I saw of him last season there's now way he could be.

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Darran Kempson. Easy.

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Totaly agree:)

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Mullen did ok in previous games no-ones sayong owt differant, last night a "Donkey" on Blackpool beach would have been better, are you saying he shouldn't be substituted under those circumstances? Wake up n smell the coffee.

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Who picked Grant as MOM, his dad ?? Kempson stood out by a mile

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The manager thinks we've got the best squad we've ever had in this league. Why didn't he use it ? Those guys on the bench (Symes, Turner etc) must have been wondering what the hell was goin on :(

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I didn't say Mully shouldn't have been substituted, just that he wasn't the only one out there having a bad game last night as some seemed to suggest.

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The guy who picked Grant for MOM last night was undecided between him and Proctor now that says it all.

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Have to say i wondered that too, thought turner would of been a definate starter, we need pace & passing, but no disrespect to mullers at all, great guy, but i think the play should of been that of the lincoln match, mullers has to drop back & let the others play up front, we win that way especially in the passing ball on floor. Sorry hoofing up just doesnt cut it all at in the league - 3 seasons on we shouldnt even adopt that play.

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Don't disagree with that SM but thats down to Coley to tell the players which formation/tactics he thinks are best for each game & make sure they do as they're told.

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As stated before,its all about opinions,I thought the main problem we had last night was the centre backs dropping to deep and getting into a physical battle with there forwards in the wrong areas of the pitch, ie just outside our box !
The coloured centre forward dictated play and our center backs fell for it,
It wasnt helped by the linesman not knowing the offside rule.
The manager was screaming at the cb s to leave them,but kempson inparticular was reluctant.
The game then became stretched instead of squeezing/pressing higher up the field.
Can anyone say there forwards were quick ?,strong yes,quick no
Only when the cf went off was a period of play we dominated.
Have a look at the goals and space caused by defending deep,the manager seen this but players didnt or werent confident of stepping up/leaving them in

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ok the point being we were 2-0 down n needed thrust up front, mr wonderful was the most ineffective striker on the pitch last night I.M.H.O. therefore to attempt to retrieve something should have been substituted, ya don't need to be sir alex to suss that out.

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Hi SM....Wouldn't you agree that whichever team was selected to start the game, and wherever a substitution was actually made, The Reds were always going to be second best to a Team who were faster and better-organised on the night.
I'll also venture to suggest that the opening strike from their ageing striker is probably one of, if not the best that we'll see at the crown this season ! . The timing of this goal, closely followed by the penalty really gave The Reds very little chance of getting anything from the game.

Anyway...It was a BLIP !!...and it will get better !!!

'WHAT ME WORRY ???'

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Well having had a night to calm down, Ihave to say, that was S****. UkCowboy and me could have been better forwards and Pete is on crutches and I have a foot in plaster. Last nights dross was totally unacceptable and reverted back to early league days. We are a much better team when we keep it on the deck. At least the 2nd half was a small improvement on the first, but that is the only good thing about the game. To start Kee was a mistake IMHO, he is obviously still not 100%. Please, Please PLEASE play McConville from the start, for a guy from non-league, he is a revelation. And I agree with others, give Michael Symes a start. Mullers has been a terrific servant to the club, but I think he should and could be used more sparingly. What about Craig Lindfield? If he is a free agent as has been speculated, sign him up. He is a player who I admire and can hold the ball up really well.The goals will come and as others have said, it is early days yet. Like Pete, still scaringly optimistic.

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heard lindfield wants to come but is still not fit from injury n reason not back is they cannot afford to pay n injured player, so will just have to hope when fully fit they will. dunno if thats the case, but its what i was told.:confused: i'm also very optimistic tues was a blip.

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Know what you are saying, Accy, but one part of the problem is that with Mully up front and the lads under pressure at the back they will always take the soft option and bang it up in the air in his direction, regardless of what Coley tells them beforehand. Not his fault, of course that he has this aura about him which demands the ball, but the unfortunate fact is that what he then does with the ball increasingly does not work against today's league 2 defenders.

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I like Lindfield woud like to see him signed up when he is fit, think Liverpool still hold is papers so would have to pay them abit of cash i think. think him and kee or symes would be good upfront,

Tuesday was a bad day! Saturday we will win and everything will be normal again.
What fun is it playing well every game! :D

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I'd just like to say that I thought your fans were very loyal. 99% of you staying till the end. If we were losing 3-0 our place would be half empty!!

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cheers mate, their good lads up here. great goal from gaint haystacks:D ;)

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I think you have to be, supporting Accrington over Blackburn and Preston!

I heard you lot thought that we brought a lot :cool:

Im sure we will be playing each other next seaso anyway....

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As a few of you have said already it is about a persons opinion, so for what it's worth here's mine! The Team we put out last night was no different really to the last couple of wins, one difference was Kee - who in my opinion was not fit, but did give us a glimpse of what he can do - and he and Mullers did not really seem to hit it off. They were often in the same space and always going for the same ball, both of which lost us width and options. What on earth Turner is doing on the bench, Coley only knows :confused: But the biggest difference to me, was that Martin seemed to have been told - or took it upon himself - to punt it up field, instead of last couple of games were he often rolled it out to the back four (Joyce in particular), which in turn got the passing game going and helped us keep the ball. I think that it was how he was told to play, because I did not see the back four looking for the ball almost as if they knew it would get lumped up field.
Northampton played well and after getting a dream start they found it easy to play their game and were quick at moving it about, but we had our chances in the second half and with the use of good subs (Turner as a minimum) things could have been different. History now, but I would like to think that lessons have been learned, we have a great squad and it was a blip, but come on Coley, use the squad.

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Thanks for that and it was pleasing to see four coach loads of away fans on a Tuesday night :) Just a pity that they went home so happy :rolleyes: :) Hope we do play you next season, in league 1 :D

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I want to see Joyce playing in central midfield.

What happened to Ross Lloyd playing at right back?

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Who's Ross Lloyd? No sign of him on the player profiles, but there has been a guy warming up before kick-off who I don't recognise.

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Accrington Stanley target Leeds United starlet (From Lancashire Telegraph)

it's here, he just needs to sign the contract so its proberly him! dont know why its taking long though

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Accrington manager John Coleman was furious with the result, especially as he felt his side should have earned something from their second-half endeavours.

"I thought we completely dominated the second half," said Coleman. "But if you don't take you chances then you don't deserve anything and we didn't take our chances."

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Well last night was the first match I have been able to make and if I had been one of the floating fans I don't think I would be in a rush to return as I thought the whole thing seemed to smack of disorganised chaos/panic.. although as others have said you can tell Northampton have played in a higher league.. neither team were really special and at the end I just felt disappointed... not so much the loss (although that always grates) but because of all the wonderful things I had been hearing about the way we had played in previous matches.

Roll on next match and pray it was just a blip due to tiredness from so many matches so early on in the season when they are still trying to get their match fitness up

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Drop the b*****s who missed the chances then, Coley!

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Just a few things...

With regards to Chris Turner I think Coley is doing the right thing and not throwing him in at the deep end; he will be nursed into a solid and confident League footballer. As far as the options up front go the strongest pairing we have is Kee and Mullin. I think King is a back-up player and I really don't see the sense in signing Symes. The goal against Grimsby away last season worked well where Symes & Turner linked up but other than that I can't think of a time when Michael impressed enough to earn a contract. Against Northampton both (an unfit) Kee and (a mauled) Mullin suffered from a lack of decent play by the defence and midfield. We played too deep which granted an average side their three goals. If we'd have played 3-5-2 and played further up the field in an attacking mentality I'm sure the result would've been different, if not the other way around. But what do I know.

When all's said and done I hope this game will be a wake up call to the team and we'll do much better against the 'Shots.

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Disagree shaker about Turner, his displays last season surely warranted at the very least a kick, see what yer saying about nursing him, but he aint had a bloody kick, old pros always used to say, if yer good enough, yer old enough.

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Chris'll get his due chance to shine, there's no worry about that. Coley gets the best out of players that grace the Crown a great majority of the time.

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Lindfield's contract with Liverpool has been cancelled by mutual consent.

Craig Lindfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I know what you are saying about Turner, but he has played well in last seasons games and has the ability to play well again. If Coley is taking the gentle approach then at least give him some time on the pitch... :eek: :)

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who's the number 19?

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Michael Symes

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until Redash posts the polished up version you can revel in the misery a bit more here
Stanley are on around 4:40
belting first goal mind

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Alternatively, there's a full 2 minutes' worth here:
BBC SPORT | Football | League Two | Accrington Stanley 0-3 Northampton

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