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stanleyhouse 30-09-2009 18:58

Members ASSF Ltd
 
As requested.
Below are the names of the ASSF Ltd Committee.

Jeff Bannister, Accrington
Joe Cirino, Crewe
David Cook, Accrington
Robert Houseman, Accrington
Idris Khan, Oswaldtwistle
Stephen Lowe, Blackburn
Neil McGuinness, Barrowford
Peter McNaught, Accrington
Rob Russell, Church
Peter Shaw, Accrington
Shabir Siddiq, Accrington
Diane Woodworth, Accrington

simon 30-09-2009 19:10

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Posted via Mobile DeviceThanks for that.

Doug 01-10-2009 12:02

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At this late stage and with the content (not much of it new) of Mr. Shaw’s statement in the Telegraph today. I would again implore the board of the ASSF to make themselves know the to wider fan base as soon as possible, I would suggest if there’s time to write/speak with the media there’s time to produce a short CV.

I know I have asked this recently and a response was given by Stanleyhouse who kindly provided a list of names and home Town locations above.

However, if we are to put our weight behind the ASSF and the committee (are you reading this Mr. O’Neil) that will work with the club on our behalf I would again ask that Transparency begins in our own court. I believe that a profile of the Director/committee should be formally posted as soon as possible so that we can make informed decisions in our own right.

That profile should contain a minimum of information i.e.

Name
Location
Age
Current Employment
Background Experience
Availability to the cause
Register of Interests

Photo (not compulsory)

Mr. O’Neil, it wouldn’t be a bad thing to do the same………….

maccawozzagod 01-10-2009 12:23

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i recommended this as to be a good idea Doug but haven't heard anything back.

Anyway I am certainly willing to start it off - perhaps we could keep this thread clear of posts other than any committee members who wish to make themselves known? If any committee members are no registered on here but wish to make themselves known then they can email me their details and I will post them for you.

Rob Russell aka Maccawozzagod
32 years old , Accrington born bred and probably dead. Married to Sarah with three children. Supporters club Chairman and three times former Supporter of the Year. Currently running a hardware shop in the town centre and with reasonably extensive knowledge of customer service and marketing - particularly within the construction industry. Biggest ambition in life with regards to Stanley is to see my club have parity of respect qnd status with Blackburn and Burnley in its own town.

AccyMad 01-10-2009 17:41

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Ok Doug.I'll try & answer your queries as best I can.
My name is Diane Woodworth (although that could soon be changing - watch this space), if you'll excuse me I'd prefer not to give my exact age but will say I'm over 40 :).
I live in Accrington and have been a Stanley supporter since the age of 14, and have brought both my sons up with the same faith. I have been actively involved with the OSC for a number of years & have recently helped to man the SOS stall in the Arndale centre although unfortunately I have had to stop this due to work commitments.
I currently work part-time as an administration officer for Sense which is a charity who works with deafblind children & adults and have a fairly flexible working week.
I joined the committee because I couldn't bear to see Stanley in trouble and wanted to help in any way I can and thought maybe they could use a woman's perspective on things sometimes.
My main interest is of course Accrington Stanley.
Hope this helps.

Willie Miller 01-10-2009 18:07

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Ha ha bonkers!

ukcowboy 01-10-2009 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 749803)
Ha ha bonkers!

Well done Willie Miller, yet another shining example of a well thought out and informative posting by yourself.

Oh how I wish I had your outlook on life here at Stanley, but untill that happens,I shall happily live in the real world. :mad:

Ok as a member of the ASSF Committee here is a little more about Me:-

Peter McNaught, aged 47, living in Accrington, married to Sarah with a 2 year old daughter Emily. I have been a Stanley fan for just under 10yrs and love the club with a passion. Unfortunatley, due to an accident at work I am not working at present, but rather than sit on my arse I am now doing a degree in Sound Engineering at SSR Manchester.

I am an avid supporter of the ideals of the ASSF, as I believe that the club desperatley needs an injection of cash to survive, not just now but long term, and a share issue is the easiest way to do that.


If you want to know more then all you have to do is ask me to my face and I will be happy to chat!

Redskin 01-10-2009 22:26

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I've obviously missed something here!...could someone please explain what this is all about?...........:o

Doug 01-10-2009 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749856)
I've obviously missed something here!...could someone please explain what this is all about?...........:o

Being a way from the club and living in Bispham I only know a few of the Committee members/Directors of the ASSF who I believe represent all of the supporters wherever they are in the world, that been the case and the fact that there is a chance that the ASSF may well be involved with the running of the club I think its appropriate that the Committee members/Directors are known to the people they are representing and what role they will play individually, their experience and availability to the cause and any register of interests. In a lot of ways they are accepting the role of public servants in respect of their service to us the Supporters and the Club therefore are accountable.

What I’d like to see roll out over the next few weeks is a Statement of Purpose, Constitution, and Specific Individual Profiles, all available on either a dedicated website or at least an ASSF section on either Accyweb or the fishy site…..followed by some form of formal Membership Registration so we can all carry the card.

Why? Because we have pledged previously to assist the ASSF financially (I pledged a £100.00 plus membership and so did many others) if we are going to do this and do it transparently then we better get it right now that the ASSF is in the public spotlight.

Redskin 01-10-2009 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 749865)
Being a way from the club and living in Bispham I only know a few of the Committee members/Directors of the ASSF who I believe represent all of the supporters wherever they are in the world, that been the case and the fact that there is a chance that the ASSF may well be involved with the running of the club I think its appropriate that the Committee members/Directors are known to the people they are representing and what role they will play individually, their experience and availability to the cause and any register of interests. In a lot of ways they are accepting the role of public servants in respect of their service to us the Supporters and the Club therefore are accountable.

What I’d like to see roll out over the next few weeks is a Statement of Purpose, Constitution, and Specific Individual Profiles, all available on either a dedicated website or at least an ASSF section on either Accyweb or the fishy site…..followed by some form of formal Membership Registration so we can all carry the card.

Why? Because we have pledged previously to assist the ASSF financially (I pledged a £100.00 plus membership and so did many others) if we are going to do this and do it transparently then we better get it right now that the ASSF is in the public spotlight.


I appauld your focus, commitment and efforts!.........however this reads like a church committee!........Never mind Transparency.......Try UNCONDITIONAL, like the silent Majority!!!!

Willie Miller 01-10-2009 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 749850)
Well done Willie Miller, yet another shining example of a well thought out and informative posting by yourself.

Oh how I wish I had your outlook on life here at Stanley, but untill that happens,I shall happily live in the real world. :mad:

Why the little red face Pete?

If I find it bonkers that fans who have joined a committee have to write thier life story on here to justify joining the said committee....

Then I will say it "Bonkers, bonkers, bonkers!"

However, I will join in, do the committee have clean driving licences? 25m swimming certificates? A season ticket?

Thanks in advance for answering:D

Redskin 01-10-2009 23:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 749850)
Well done Willie Miller, yet another shining example of a well thought out and informative posting by yourself.

Oh how I wish I had your outlook on life here at Stanley, but untill that happens,I shall happily live in the real world. :mad:

Ok as a member of the ASSF Committee here is a little more about Me:-

Peter McNaught, aged 47, living in Accrington, married to Sarah with a 2 year old daughter Emily. I have been a Stanley fan for just under 10yrs and love the club with a passion. Unfortunatley, due to an accident at work I am not working at present, but rather than sit on my arse I am now doing a degree in Sound Engineering at SSR Manchester.

I am an avid supporter of the ideals of the ASSF, as I believe that the club desperatley needs an injection of cash to survive, not just now but long term, and a share issue is the easiest way to do that.


If you want to know more then all you have to do is ask me to my face and I will be happy to chat!


Question?...What competence would you bring to the running of ASFC?..individually or as a collective?

What "Unconditional" donation/s has the committee, or individuals given to the SOS fund?

Thanks!

Doug 01-10-2009 23:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 749868)
Why the little red face Pete?

If I find it bonkers that fans who have joined a committee have to write thier life story on here to justify joining the said committee....

Then I will say it "Bonkers, bonkers, bonkers!"

However, I will join in, do the committee have clean driving licences? 25m swimming certificates? A season ticket?

Thanks in advance for answering:D

Willie, there’s a strong possibility that this committee may end up running Accrington Stanley in your Name, Surely you would want to know who they are? If there capable of doing the Job better than David’s team and if they can keep the club alive….Having Mr. Khan’s financial backing is one thing; knowing what your doing is quite another…there’s some very serious **** going on here;

I think there are few people who really believe that David O’Neil and the club will won’t succeed in paying off the debt and surviving; if they do fail and the ASSF take over then the survival is in the hands of people currently totally unknown to the majority of supporters and up to now none of them have any experience in running a football club based on the current level of information. Now that would be bonkers.

Redskin 01-10-2009 23:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 749870)
Willie, there’s a strong possibility that this committee may end up running Accrington Stanley in your Name, Surely you would want to know who they are? If there capable of doing the Job better than David’s team and if they can keep the club alive….Having Mr. Khan’s financial backing is one thing; knowing what your doing is quite another…there’s some very serious **** going on here;

I think there are few people who really believe that David O’Neil and the club will won’t succeed in paying off the debt and surviving; if they do fail and the ASSF take over then the survival is in the hands of currently totally unknown to the majority of supporters and up to now none of them have any experience in running a football club based on the current level of information. Now that would be bonkers.

Just my opinion!........I seriously fear for the club if any committee takes the reigns!.......and here lies the problem!...Little people stood behind one man with what appears to be a personal agenda against the directors and chairman of ASFC!....UNCONDITIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ukcowboy 01-10-2009 23:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749869)
Question?...What competence would you bring to the running of ASFC?..individually or as a collective?

A:- I would not be directly involved with the 'Running of ASFC', that would fall to the Directors, so you would need to ask the same question of them.

What "Unconditional" donation/s has the committee, or individuals given to the SOS fund?

A:- I personaly have made 'unconditional' contributions to the SOS fund in much the same way as most of the posters on here have....as for the amount Im afraid that is a personal matter and I dnt feel the need to divulge that information


Willie Miller,

I may have taken your post the wrong way :o............I thought that you were having a pop at the ASSF, hence the red face. If I was mistaken,which by yur reply I was, then I apologise..........btw I do have a driving licence, cant/wont swim, do have a season ticket :D

Redskin 01-10-2009 23:44

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Please answer me this last question.........Why should I believe that you, as a collective ASSF, can run a football club?

Redskin 02-10-2009 00:08

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What's wrong?..........have to call a meeting to put together a response?

I'm asking a serious question and you are still on line!....Transparency you've been asking for!......PMPL

shakermaker 02-10-2009 01:45

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Seeing as the thread's already been spoiled and got it's very own troll I presume it's ok to post.

I don't think there's any need to ask the committee members to justify their 'Stanleyness', even if they have no problem doing so. As I understand it, any fan could've joined the ASSF committee if they wanted to. Also, as far as I know, the committee won't be 'running the club'. They'll be a group of people representing the fan base. They won't be above anyone or in any position of individual power. That's how I see it anyway.

David O'Neil is struggling - whether that's due to underestimating the mess left by Eric or whatever. The club needs help and should welcome it when true fans offer it. At least open a proper dialogue. Just fill in the CC box!

Probably the wrong place for that last paragraph but who cares.

lancsdave 02-10-2009 06:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749869)
What "Unconditional" donation/s has the committee, or individuals given to the SOS fund?

Thanks!

I know about half the names on that list and do know they have given personally or been heavily involved in various fund raising events.

maccawozzagod 02-10-2009 07:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 749868)

I find it bonkers that fans who have joined a committee have to write thier life story on here to justify joining the said committee....

it's not to justify anything Jase, it's just to say who we are. Most people know a few of us but likewise there are names on there that nobody at all knows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749869)
Question?...What competence would you bring to the running of ASFC?..individually or as a collective?

what competence does anybody bring? Every option we have had over the years has had some degree of incompetence - be it balancing books or communication or both.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749869)
What "Unconditional" donation/s has the committee, or individuals given to the SOS fund?
Thanks!

a £25,000 loan to tide the club over during the lean months for one thing - do you not read the website, forum or newspapers?
some if not all of us are involved daily with fundraising efforts, manning stalls, selling Gold Bond tickets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749871)
Just my opinion!........I seriously fear for the club if any committee takes the reigns!.......and here lies the problem!...Little people stood behind one man with what appears to be a personal agenda against the directors and chairman of ASFC!....UNCONDITIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you calling Loweiy little? in all seriousness you are right to have fears. But why should a committeee be any worse than having one man responsible for everything? Eric Whalley was a one man crusade to run ASFC, every decision had to go through him. Some were right and some were wrong. The decision to pay some things before the tax bill was clearly a wrong decision and would have been taken despite the best advice of all around him - we were hoping for the crowds to pick up, we were hoping for the big cup draw. It was a gamble that should never have been taken. A committee made up of long standing supporters of this great club would not allow such gambles to be taken. Said committee would also never fail to work with the best interests of the club at heart.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749873)
Please answer me this last question.........Why should I believe that you, as a collective ASSF, can run a football club?

why should you believe that The Don can? why should you believe that the next person to make an offer can? you don't know and neither do I if all honesty is taken but its not rocket science when you break it down. There are people already at the club who know what their day to day jobs are in order to maintain FL membership and the rest is just daily common sense, don't spend what you haven't got, you can't sell what you haven't got, answer emails to customers, let folk know whats happening, pay the taxes on time etc etc. Far easier to do if you start with a clean slate on the accounts don't you think?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749875)
What's wrong?..........have to call a meeting to put together a response? ... PMPL

this kinda adequately sums up your postings last night Redskin. From your first post claiming not to know what this was all about to the last one claiming to have ****ed your pants.

In my first post I asked that this thread be kept clear of litter so that the information, as requested, was all in one easy to read place. Well done little man, you have managed to spoil it. If you havce any serious questions then feel free to ask them - elsewhere.

Whatever people think of groups such as the ASSF I think that should at least respect the fact that they are there and are trying to help. It might not be the best deal to suit all parties - but it is the best deal to suit ASFC, and that is why we are all here.

Should any other groups of people wish to get themselves together and form some sort of coalition in order to provide David O'Neil with the funds to run his business then feel free. If anybody else wants to conditionally or unconditionally put money into the club then place your offer on the table and it will be dealt with.

Doug 02-10-2009 08:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 749879)
Seeing as the thread's already been spoiled and got it's very own troll I presume it's ok to post.

I don't think there's any need to ask the committee members to justify their 'Stanleyness', even if they have no problem doing so. As I understand it, any fan could've joined the ASSF committee if they wanted to. Also, as far as I know, the committee won't be 'running the club'. They'll be a group of people representing the fan base. They won't be above anyone or in any position of individual power. That's how I see it anyway.

David O'Neil is struggling - whether that's due to underestimating the mess left by Eric or whatever. The club needs help and should welcome it when true fans offer it. At least open a proper dialogue. Just fill in the CC box!

Probably the wrong place for that last paragraph but who cares.

Proving Stanleyness was never the point, their commitment to Accrington Stanley was never in doubt.......:)

AccyMad 02-10-2009 08:38

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Good post Macca, was trying to find the words to answer Redskin but you beat me to it.

Jase - Wasn't trying to justify anything - just though Doug wanted a little personal information so he knows we're not a bunch of strangers but in answer to your queries - no, no & definately yes -for more years than I care to remember :)

Redskin 02-10-2009 09:19

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Not sure you answered anything really!.........interesteing that you all seem to have different hymn sheets!!!.....

On Stanley On!

Redskin 02-10-2009 09:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 749889)
it's not to justify anything Jase, it's just to say who we are. Most people know a few of us but likewise there are names on there that nobody at all knows.



what competence does anybody bring? Every option we have had over the years has had some degree of incompetence - be it balancing books or communication or both.



a £25,000 loan to tide the club over during the lean months for one thing - do you not read the website, forum or newspapers?
some if not all of us are involved daily with fundraising efforts, manning stalls, selling Gold Bond tickets.



you calling Loweiy little? in all seriousness you are right to have fears. But why should a committeee be any worse than having one man responsible for everything? Eric Whalley was a one man crusade to run ASFC, every decision had to go through him. Some were right and some were wrong. The decision to pay some things before the tax bill was clearly a wrong decision and would have been taken despite the best advice of all around him - we were hoping for the crowds to pick up, we were hoping for the big cup draw. It was a gamble that should never have been taken. A committee made up of long standing supporters of this great club would not allow such gambles to be taken. Said committee would also never fail to work with the best interests of the club at heart.



why should you believe that The Don can? why should you believe that the next person to make an offer can? you don't know and neither do I if all honesty is taken but its not rocket science when you break it down. There are people already at the club who know what their day to day jobs are in order to maintain FL membership and the rest is just daily common sense, don't spend what you haven't got, you can't sell what you haven't got, answer emails to customers, let folk know whats happening, pay the taxes on time etc etc. Far easier to do if you start with a clean slate on the accounts don't you think?



this kinda adequately sums up your postings last night Redskin. From your first post claiming not to know what this was all about to the last one claiming to have ****ed your pants.

In my first post I asked that this thread be kept clear of litter so that the information, as requested, was all in one easy to read place. Well done little man, you have managed to spoil it. If you havce any serious questions then feel free to ask them - elsewhere.

Whatever people think of groups such as the ASSF I think that should at least respect the fact that they are there and are trying to help. It might not be the best deal to suit all parties - but it is the best deal to suit ASFC, and that is why we are all here.

Should any other groups of people wish to get themselves together and form some sort of coalition in order to provide David O'Neil with the funds to run his business then feel free. If anybody else wants to conditionally or unconditionally put money into the club then place your offer on the table and it will be dealt with.


You are demanding Transparency yet when the shoes on the other foot you fail to offer anything different!!!!! Drop the pretence that you lot suggest you known what you are doing!.The ASSF are doing a greatr job in destroying the Stanley, which let's face it, is the ultimate plan, then you can all become the Accrington Saviours! ;)

AccyMad 02-10-2009 09:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749913)
You are demanding Transparency yet when the shoes on the other foot you fail to offer anything different!!!!! Drop the pretence that you lot suggest you known what you are doing!.The ASSF are doing a greatr job in destroying the Stanley, which let's face it, is the ultimate plan, then you can all become the Accrington Saviours! ;)

Without doubt this is the most ridiculous post you have made yet! Are you David O'Neil in disguise?
As for not answering anything, you asked what donations we had so far made and you got the answer - £25,000 was publicly handed over.
Also we have sponsored a couple of games and at least 3 players, we didn't make a song & dance about that but if you doubt the truth of this check the programme on the player sponsorship page.
We had several fund raisers planned over the next year when we (and everyone else) thought we had 12 months to pay the taxman. These were discussed with the lads in the commercial department at the club to ensure we didn't duplicate anything the club had planned.
It was only when we were told that in fact we had only 8 weeks to pay the debt that we put forward the share issue again as we believe that is the only way forward to ensure the survival of the club.
So, tell me again - how exactly is that a plan to destroy Stanley?

Neil 02-10-2009 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749909)
interesteing that you all seem to have different hymn sheets

Is that not why committees work? Different ideas thrown into the pot and then a solution decided and debated over.

JEFF 02-10-2009 10:12

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With all this slagging off of DON, ASSF, Ilyas Khan, etc. everybody seems to have forgotton the person who got us into this mess originally ERIC WHALLEY. As I see it this debt to the taxman hasn't "built up" over the years, it has come about because the wage records were not kept correctly and payments to players were not recorded properly. The Revenue inspected the books and because there were no books to inspect properly the Revenue assessed what Stanley owed them and came up with a figure of £350,000. This was a debt that hadn't been budgeted for so Stanley found themselves into a deep hole with this debt to pay. DON "gave" EW £100,000 to pay off some of the debt which kept the taxman away from the door for a while, EW then didn't bother to pay any of the rest which resulted in this winding up order. EW then did a runner taking more money from DON in his back pocket for his shares and then deserted a sinking ship. DON is trying to stabalise this sinking ship the best he can and ASSF is a last option for him if he fails. We as fans are trying our best to help him and whilst some people may not trust him we have to back him for the moment. I am sure that if there is a shortfall in the money owed and there is a danger of the Club closing DON will go to ASSF with the necessary package to save the Club. It seems as if we are all bitching again and not concentrating on the important thing of saving the Club. All this bitching does is endanger the fund raising so let's concentrate on the positives. We have raised a lot of money for Stanley one way or another and when we get out of this mess if the fund raising continues a lot of money could be raised for future investments. The team are performing well and getting some good results, the fans and Ultras at home and away are terrific in their support, so let's take a leaf out of their book and support and get behind everybody at Stanley who, I am sure, are all doing their best. Finally remember who got us into this mess, it wasn't DON, it wasn't ASSF and it wasn't the supporters.

maccawozzagod 02-10-2009 10:13

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forget it Accymad, Redskin is just a troll searching for a reaction. He has had his/her answers but doesn't want to read what has been said.

maccawozzagod 02-10-2009 10:14

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good post Jeff

Bagpuss 02-10-2009 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 749927)
With all this slagging off of DON, ASSF, Ilyas Khan, etc. everybody seems to have forgotton the person who got us into this mess originally ERIC WHALLEY.

Some of us haven't forgot :(

Wouldn't this info about members of ASSF be better on a website so we can all read without trolls?

VALAIRIAN 02-10-2009 13:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 749963)
Some of us haven't forgot :(

Wouldn't this info about members of ASSF be better on a website so we can all read without trolls?

There is one on the way Baggy, but as with most things priorities have changed ;) :)

Pheonix 02-10-2009 16:24

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Just to introduce myself

My name is Shabir Siddiq,

I am married with 3 children

I'm 50 years old and have lived in Accrington since 1970 having moved up here with my parents from Birmingham

I attended Hollins school for my secondary education.

After leaving school I worked in various roles and positions within the East lancashire area, I worked for over 5 years at Hyndburn Sports centre after which I did 9 years in British Army as a Military Policemen (SIB) having left the Army in 94, I set up my own business after about a year the work dried up and I moved into training and development. I worked my way up to Business Development Manager and I am currently employed as a Regional Performance Manager for a National Company and manage contracts up to the value of £2m.

My qualifications - I have an MBA in Business Administration, NVQ 5 in Operational Management, I have Diploma in Management Studies. I provide training in Management skills and business improvement as well as other skill sets.

I am also a trustee and chair of Leisure in Hyndurn

I am a school governor at a local school

I am an arm chair football supporter, I joined the committee because, I have a passion for saving Accrington Stanley as I believe history will judge Accrington and its people as incompetent and un-concerned if we let it happen twice.

I have provided some guidance for the ASFC marketing team (DAN) but it appears not to have been headed.

I hope my life skills, experience and credentials are worthy of being able to support ASFC through the ASSF to which I am 100% committed. However If you the wider public feel they are not then I am willing to stand aside and let someone else better qualified than me take my place.

I hope this goes part way to answering some of the concerns and issues raised by other concerned individuals.

Willie Miller 02-10-2009 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 749872)
Willie Miller,

I may have taken your post the wrong way :o............I thought that you were having a pop at the ASSF, hence the red face. If I was mistaken,which by yur reply I was, then I apologise..........btw I do have a driving licence, cant/wont swim, do have a season ticket :D

Don't worry , everyone seems too these days:)

Outback Ozzy 02-10-2009 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pheonix (Post 749999)
Just to introduce myself

My name is Shabir Siddiq,

I am married with 3 children

I'm 50 years old and have lived in Accrington since 1970 having moved up here with my parents from Birmingham

I attended Hollins school for my secondary education.

After leaving school I worked in various roles and positions within the East lancashire area, I worked for over 5 years at Hyndburn Sports centre after which I did 9 years in British Army as a Military Policemen (SIB) having left the Army in 94, I set up my own business after about a year the work dried up and I moved into training and development. I worked my way up to Business Development Manager and I am currently employed as a Regional Performance Manager for a National Company and manage contracts up to the value of £2m.

My qualifications - I have an MBA in Business Administration, NVQ 5 in Operational Management, I have Diploma in Management Studies. I provide training in Management skills and business improvement as well as other skill sets.

I am also a trustee and chair of Leisure in Hyndurn

I am a school governor at a local school

I am an arm chair football supporter, I joined the committee because, I have a passion for saving Accrington Stanley as I believe history will judge Accrington and its people as incompetent and un-concerned if we let it happen twice.

I have provided some guidance for the ASFC marketing team (DAN) but it appears not to have been headed.

I hope my life skills, experience and credentials are worthy of being able to support ASFC through the ASSF to which I am 100% committed. However If you the wider public feel they are not then I am willing to stand aside and let someone else better qualified than me take my place.

I hope this goes part way to answering some of the concerns and issues raised by other concerned individuals.

Top man, great skills and hopefully part way to answering Redskin

mab 02-10-2009 19:47

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Originally Posted by Redskin (Post 749913)
You are demanding Transparency yet when the shoes on the other foot you fail to offer anything different!!!!! Drop the pretence that you lot suggest you known what you are doing!.The ASSF are doing a greatr job in destroying the Stanley, which let's face it, is the ultimate plan, then you can all become the Accrington Saviours! ;)

:( What a load of CRAP

stanleyhouse 02-10-2009 20:54

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My name is Robert Houseman. I am 38 years old and a director of the ASSF.

I have been married to Kerry for 7 years and have lived in Accrington all my life.
I gained my BEd Honours degree in Primary Education from the University of Wales in 1994 before starting work in Primary Schools in Blackburn.
At the moment I am employed by Blackburn With Darwen Borough Council as a Primary Strategy Consultant. My role involves supporting and challenging schools in the Local Authority, developing them as Learning communities. I have been an Improving Schools hub leader for North West Local Authorities and represented the Region in National events. I have also worked as an advisory teacher and Mathematics Consultant.
I am also a local School Governor and Secretary of Whalley Tennis Club.

I was taken to my first Stanley match in the Cheshire League as a small boy. I have stood and now sit in the same place directly behind the goals for all those years. My claim to fame is introducing Loweiy to Stanley in the North West Counties days.
My father and his father before him were avid fans and shareholders of Stanley pre 1962.
I have managed to attend all Stanley matches home and away since our return to the football league and was a consistent supporter home and away throughout our Non league days.
In the past I have been Supporters club secretary and been involved in several Sponsored Walks for the club.

Biggest regret: Do you remember the UPVC dugouts we had previously?. My idea. I convinced my father in law to donate them at a cost of £3000 to the personal specification of Mr Whalley. Eric ignored our advice that they were a little too big and after only a month he arranged to tear them down with no thanks or any return of materials. Another business man unwilling to do business with Stanley again!

I hope that my 30 years of supporting Stanley through the good and not so good times, my experience of working with schools, developing community links and level headedness are important attributes for being an active member of the ASSF.

I want the local community to take Stanley to their hearts, and have a club they can be proud of. I believe through transparency and the rebuilding of business and community partnerships we can achieve a club that is attractive to all.

Thanks
Robert

simon 03-10-2009 10:36

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Posted via Mobile Device Can all the PROPER proper replies be put on another thread or the others moved ? Some excellent info has been added :) but you need to read some rubbish to get to it.

Tin Monkey 03-10-2009 13:42

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I honestly don't see anything wrong with Redskin's questions, but it does seem as if the ranks have closed around him.

He (I assume it's a he) actually asked how much the commitee had contributed and the reply was the customary "£25,000 loan", which we all know came from Ilyas Khan and not the commitee. He also asked what skills/experience/qualities the members were bringing to the table with the view of one day running the club, and with the exception of the last 2 ASSF contributers, the main quality appears to be the love of the club. I don't doubt the passion of the 'board members', but I'm equally sure that everyone who's been involved in running the club over the last decades has had similar levels of passion and love of Accrington Stanley, but it hasn't really been enough, has it?

The problem for me is that there are multiple sides to this whole affair and it seems obvious to me that there's a lot of information being withheld and personal agendas being followed. By now the situation should be clarified, but instead it appears more clouded than ever, especially with all the back-biting and in-fighting.

I don't for a second think that anyone is really interested in what I think, but I thought I'd have a say anyway. Personally my interest is almost at the point of extinction.

Doug 03-10-2009 14:18

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If Redskin had stuck to the point like you people might have taken more notice. And yes, your correct......

Stanleymad 03-10-2009 21:27

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Had a request to close down thread only to assf to intro themselves, but on looking at the thread & no reports have thought that as a discussion board as Accyweb is ....discussion being the apt word & in best interest to the forum, also closely aware of club & assf issues - think that in the interest of transparency as the word bounders about here often that it should remain simply as that ...sensible discussion with respect. It would be unfair to close down posts to only those associated with the assf board & would be careful about disclosure of personal details on a public forum also, but then would create a problem of balanced discussion & queries relating to the thread topic, causing possible reprecussions for moderators of the board - whom have to keep the balance, plus could worsen the divides of opinion - again my thoughts & concerns. Think this intro of directors/board members would be more appropiate on the assf webpage or site of the supporters fund, that way can be referred to.

Anyone has any issues can pm me or any posts that cause issues please report them.

Bagpuss 03-10-2009 23:37

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 750297)
Think this intro of directors/board members would be more appropiate on the assf webpage or site of the supporters fund, that way can be referred to.

I totally agree so get your finger out and finish the website.


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