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****in sick as ****....

We have been lied to for 8 weeks.

We are now left having to beg again for our future at a Public Court Hearing.

The football world will be laughing at us. The main worry I had about all this was losing the immense pride I feel for MY football club. Will I ever get it back after this bollocks!

The players & management will be looking for the first way out of this ****in shambles. If we survive I see 4 or 5 "!Anthony Barrys!", just letting there contracts run out & leaving....

I personally, have attended an ASSF meeting & publically stood up for O'Neill & Rob Heys. What a fool!

I urged fans to chat to O'Neill & Heys for the truth.....

Ha!

Bull**** for weeks, thats me I am afraid.... If we survive then I want a change....

I have spoken to many of the Ultras & should we have a football club after tomorrow then there will be the direct action that many of my fellow fans asked for.

I publically apologise for not seeing the current regime for what it is. But, I believe now that the club are using the optmistic fans to keep the wolves from the door.

No more...................

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Wiilie you have nothing to apologise for, You have along with every other Stanley fan have contributed to trying to keep the Club alive. You are the one's who have been on the front lines collecting, coming up with ideas and then actioning them to raise money for the Club we love.

All of you are very special & an amazing bunch of people and make me proud to tell anyone that.......

I support Accrington Stanley:)

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Jase do not beat yourself up man, you were not the only one.

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Thats signed sealed and delivered, if we were to survive the heads of stanley have just lost its fan base and no doubt they would have to go, certainly without the hard core support its doomed. I know everyones feelings are really high as am i but can we be mind ful that its a family forum please watch the language and make my life easier than have to edit certainly obvious one's, cheers.

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Jase, you and I have locked horns on this situation on more than one occasion, but I have NEVER doubted your passion and feeling OUR club..................I do not consider myself an 'Ultra' and at times I have been non complmentary about the group, however no one can doubt the passion with which the 'Ultras' support Stanley.............kudos to you all for that.

You were not the only one to be taken in by O'Neils lies, and neither will you be the last Im afraid.

I am in full agreement with you should we survive then its time for ONeil to go,and I WILL stand (well sit!) with you as well!!

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Jase you are definitely amongst many true supporters of Accrington Stanley. If we get a reprieve tomorrow, what I would like to see is total honesty, not the bull**** that has been spouted this weekend not by O'Niell but others. i.e. The tax bill will be settled on Monday in full, yet they have not got the necessary funds. Let us hope that the judge and the attorney representing ASFC get a good hearing and we can have that stay of execution. But I fear a few pieces of paper and 10 pieces of silver will not sway HMRC or anyone else. I fear that I may see my team go under for the 2nd time in my life. This will be disastrous for the fans of the club. We can only hope and pray that we are still in business tomorrow afternoon.

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ASSF weren't quite embraced by everyone but we were the first ones to see what lies were coming out of the club and how regularly. We tried to force our way in where there wasn't a way in, and we tried whatever we could to force the board to step down - which may have brought Ilyas back into the game.

Unfortunately possession is 9/10ths of the law and O'Neil was in possession of the club (or was he - EW?), whatever O'Neil came out with was backed by the majority because there was no reason not to trust him. This has catagorically been dismissed now.

Should we still have a club by tomorrow then I agree fully and to the hilt that direct action must be taken to force O'Neil to admit who actually runs the club and that it is time for that person or persons to hit the road.

Should anybody reading this have a direct line now to the real owner then please beg them to pick up the phone and speak to the only man who can save this club.

IF YOU DO NOT THEN YOU MAY WATCH THE CLUB DIE TOMORROW.

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Willie like U.K. we have also locked horns a few times, but ya are spot on mate, do not apologise fer having trust, thats loyalty,n cannot be condemed, the truth always outs in time, the man is a Charlatan.:(

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jase dont beat yourself up mate its not your fault we all know over the last 8 weeks we and all the fans around the world that have donated to the appeal put so much time and effort into saving our great club have been let down by mr o neil i agree with you he must go if we get through this the way forward i think if we survive is with a suppoters trust run by the fans for the fans :confused:

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Dito.......Jase

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Out,out,out

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Jason,
im made up you have seen the facts among the spin.

Rob Heys is a puppet who spins the crap
O'neill is the idiot who wants to be in charge

The only time he seems to talk is to remind us how he put £100,000 of his own money into the club.
Forgive me, but £100,000 into a league club is pennies.

The ASSF and Ilyas was the only option.

the other offer seems to only have existed in O'neills head.

I talk as someone who has worked as a commercial QS and dealt in a few small sub contractors who owed less than stanley; who ended up in court with HMRI seeking more time. In all honesty, its likely we will be wound up unless they can provide 90% probably 95% of the cash and a guarantee of a creditor or bank for the remainder.

O'neill told my friend how he has changed the running of the club and how its so much better, If the SOS campaign is an example of the O'neill and Heys management - then we need new owners.

Rob Heys is way out of his depth in terms of ability
Oneill is finacially out of his depth.

There is no shame in admiting you cant do the job, but there is shame if you continue to live in denial and destroy a football club.

The real sick thing is - the 2 idiots and Lazarus will be hoping a fan is so desperate they will come up with the money tonight/tommorrow.

I still laugh at Lazarus 'we need someone to come in and give us £200,000 for nothing'.
The more you think about the stupidity of the club leadership, it starts to make you cry.

Jase - if you need any help with banners, get in touch.

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Jase, I too was at the ASSF meeting before the Cheltenham game, and even though you stood up for Mr O'Neil I never doubted your well meaning intentions and passion for our club. I admire that.

As long as there is a group of people with Accrington in their hearts, united in their love of football there will always be a STANLEY and the need for fans like yourself.

Keep the faith..

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I think the whole route of the problem has been a lack of acceptance from the DON that the club needed outside investment, he has buried his head in the sand and let momentum get the club into this mess. The one thing that really angers me is the fact people will have bought some of the "B" shares and will not get their money back: these are hard working fans who have basically been robbed blind. I said in of my earlier posts that I didn't think it was a good idea to be doing a share issue at this time, I hate to say it but it looks like I was right.

I think the writing was on the wall the moment Peter Marsden resigned, the only hope that we might have is perhaps getting an extension of a week but I would not expect the club to trading this time tomorrow. If the club survive it is of paramount importance to get the supporters trust up and running, we need to do this in order to get the club back running as a much steadier ship.

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supporters trust is a MUST.
There is no excuses for the Don, no more 'fans forums', no more media spin from him or Heys or Lazarus.
Out and nothing else.
Dont buy anything from the club shop Google Page Ranking on a matchday.
Whilei t will have a negative effect on the club`and the team - until Oneill and co realise we dont want them under ANY circumstance, this is a necessary action.
Buy nothing, just attend the games with your season ticket.
And protest like hell.

BTW - O'neill DOES read the message board.

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Wrong.
Rob Heys is Rob Heys through and through.
He knows that any other owner/buisness person would not employ him as a cheif excecutive.
He needs this lot as the alternative is different employment

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OUT OUT OUT..............

At the start the don had the chance of ilyas's money and he could stay in place running things.........(with transparency)

Messed that up haven't ya ????????

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It appears to me that Rob Heys is merely pulling the trigger, its the DON and before him ERIC the WHALLEY that are not only loading the bullets, but fashioning them as well...
The blokes I would want removed are the two directors who allegedly made the now infamous comment;" We'ld rather the club went under than let Ilyas have control..", a certain telephone salesperson and , of course, the DON.

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You Had Your Chance
 

Mr O'Neil you had your chance to pay the debt by your own means after refusing help and you nearly cost the club (again) I think it's time you packed your bags and ****** off now.

Can't believe you started that share issue without being safe knowing people might lose hard earned cash your a ******* disgrace to the town.

See you tonight :mad:

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Hope there is more than one behind the bar tonight,and it is fully stocked,as sounds like it is going to be a busy night!!!!

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[i]Posted via Mobile Device[

said in a young scouse accent " EXACTLY"

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I like that song! LOL yup farewell indeed...singing along...lol

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This is what O'Neil should be heard singing NOW.......................well the first line anyway!!!

YouTube - Johnny Paycheck - You can take this job and shove it

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One final one then Im off for a coffee..............................:)


YouTube - Darius Rucker Performs "All I Want"

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Boston MA's finest 3rd Wave Ska 8 piece the Mighty Mighty Bosstones.

"You Gotta Go"

YouTube - Mighty Mighty Bosstones - "You Gotta Go" Side One Dummy

:D

Plenty more to come, maybe we should make the DONk a Cd???

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Oh dont give me Ideas like that!!.....................Does anyone know our stadium announcer personally??..........................lol

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opening line sums the liar perfectly.

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just been reading the forum re stanley and compared it with that of south end united
there seems to be similar details for those who read they are given till 4th november too only they have been given that time to go into administration maybe that will be the best thing and get rid of the current directors and let a new broom sweep clean

let Ilyas do his stuff get in a new board with people who care about accrington stanley and accrington and who have run successful businesses in the past i would not let any of the current plonkers run a party in a brewery (even in the Crown)

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Broken Promise

YouTube - New Order - Broken Promise


'Oh I don't know why people lie'

'For the things that mean so much to me
Don't mean that much to you'

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For Bush, substitute O'Neil, for 8yrs substitute 8 weeks, for nation think Stanley and for Crawford think Barrowford!!

:):):)

YouTube - Crawl Back To Crawford

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I think even he knows his position is untenable.

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I know one by the Ivor big one and the red nose burglars, which would apply to both of them but would probably get banned if I put it on,

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"...and it does me good, well it bloody well should." :D

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God that brings back memories............................the song not the sentiment :D:D:D

"oh Mrs Jones and your 3 lovely daughters......."

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We are a Football League Club being run by amateurs in the same way that they ran Stanley in the Unibond League. Things you do in non-league football you cannot get away with doing in the Football League. We need to be professional behind the scenes and as soon as we are I am sure that we will all see a difference

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Its a classic lol :theband:

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ya know my feelings on this mate, but these clowns are sadly well short of professionalism.:rolleyes:

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:(:mad::eek: It seems to me that Dave O'Neill and Eric Whalley are now clearly out of their depth. Both financially and in their lack of business acumen. Eric did a great job leading us through the non league pyramid. Counting tenners on the stupid granada programmes was ok in non league but simply won't do in the football league! Eric and Dave seem to have a kind of outdated Victorian "Mill owner" mentallity. They display a, "Me me me", and ,"MY club", and ,"I won't let the club down", attitude that will only lead to failure. Time now for Eric and Dave to show some grace and common sense. Let Ilyas in now and the club will survive. I am sure that Ilyas would bring in somebody who knows big business well who could take us forward into a more secure future

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And one for Marcelle:D

YouTube - The One - Big D and the Kids Table



:o

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Who is going tonight ?

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Ill be there

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Darius Rucker - top song and well found. Im impressed !!
can The stanley fans not right a song for oneil ?

Oneil, Oneil who the f"£$ is Oneil ? ha ha

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Here's another one I found this afternoon that I find parts of very apt. Not normally my style of music (I'm much more Darius Rucker style!!) but hey ho!!

YouTube - Secondhand Serenade - Goodbye

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""Oh Mrs Palm and your 5 lovely daughters !!!!"":dummy2:
ian

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Cheers Boomer................you might guess from my nick the kind of music Im into...............knew exactly where to find it!!...........Got the album if you wanna copy? :P:P

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Why is it? Are you all going to stop supporting Stanley if he stays?

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Because Stanley doe's not revolve round one person, it is bigger and better then one, because this Stanley on and on and on. Always remember the Stanley Boy's as there fight goes on

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Lies,lies,lies

out,out,out

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That read wrong should of been

Stanley doe's not revolve round one person, it is bigger and better then one, because this is Stanley on and on and on. Always remember the Stanley Boy's as there fight goes on.

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Would i ever not support stanley ??? NO!!!!

But he along with Rob Heys have been a joke over these last few weeks and its TIME TO GO!

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Merged 2 related threads together as cant have too many of the same type of threads :)

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Correct.

Support the club, get behind the players when the whistle blows.
But before the game, at half time, at full time and the rest of the week - dont spend a penny in or on the club and protest.

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Bollocks; I stopped sending £15 for each home game when the sos site went over a week without being up dated in protest, I still paid up for other activities and the money had better had gone to the club.

If this offends tough; if you withhold your money you will hurt the club, wake up its not going in anyone’s pocket, it’s paying the clubs way, you stop spending we will be right back were we started.

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I'm slightly different on this. Rob Heys, first & foremost is a good friend. I will stand behind friends always in their our of need. He will be at Stanley regardless of his role with the club.

I am sure there is a role for him within our future; but that decision, thank god, will not rest with me, a meagre supporter.

I would hope that many of the loyal club staff are retained; Vicky, Michael Schultz, Buzzer....

On Stanley On!

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Top post Willie, with you all the way.

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Everyone will have their own way of trying to implement change Doug.... Dave's ain't b@@clocks..... its just HIS way....

He drove all the way from LOndon for last nights protest fella!

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Willie I didn't say he was bolcocks. I meant not paying for anything between halfs, the club will still need every penny and more.

I don't know Dave; but for what you tell me I have a lot of respect for his actions. my action was not intended to be personal and I fully accept your post.

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The same mentality and argument was why so many fans refused to ask questions and supported the SOS blindly.

O'neill is a buisness man. He has control of the club and the finances of the club ultimatly are his responsibility.
He may feel uncomfortable with protests,
he might not like the witch hunt for transparency and truth,
but what will definatly make him aware of how I feel is by not spending a penny at the club going forward.

Does it mean I wont attend cup games or away games - no.
But I certainly wont be buying any merchandise.

This IMO, is the best way of making him take note of my grievance.

Money is the only thing he seems concerned about.

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My Mentality and Argument is to continue to support the club blindly or otherwise, not spending won’t hurt David O’Neil by any degree, but if enough of you do it; it will hurt the club.

But I respect your view point we each have to do that which we feel is right, like O’Neil we are responsible by our action or inactions.

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Anything that implements change (within the law) is every supporters right ....

We want a Supporters Trust
We want no one man to own more than say 30%
We want to know how much we owe & to who

Dave is right, we blindly followed the SOS appeal & were kicked in the teeth. The time for change is now, we MUST act!

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If the interests of Mr O'Neill are truly Accrington Stanley then he should go because staying will decrease crowd numbers DANGEROUSLY low. However if his interests aren't Accrington Stanley he should seriously ask himself why he is here with all the problems and negative publicity.
Thank you Ilyas and Peter for saving my town team. You can be the Chairmen anyday.

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Not putting money in to the club just means our new fairy godfather will have to dig into his own pocket again when the next tax bill comes around, and the team won't get paid unless the PFA keep shelling out.

Exactly how does that hurt O'Neil ?

I fully understand the feeling and the objective, but that tactic doesn't make sense. Make the point with banners !

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gotta say agree wi chimer n others, i shall continue my usual little ways, Negative Publicity n quest fer truth will do its job, Negative Spending will harm Stanley even more.IMHO.

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On the subject of changes at the helm, I'm mindful that Mr Khan requested calm to allow things to be worked out over this coming week or so. However, I do feel that the fans have been swatted away like an irritating wasp with bland & meaningless statements both by Rob and Mr O'Neill. It reached the ludicrous point where we could not believe anything they uttered.And then they turn up on the day of reckoning with nowhere near the required sum - after all the blood swet 'n tears that have seen the impossible rise from the ashes of '62, they basically killed the club. Only the uninvited intervention of Messrs Khan/Marsden prevented the unthinkable. So it is likely that we will survive this time but without serious change at the top I would not bet against a repeat next year. As someone said, the two Directors at the Chesterfield meeting nearly got their way. They at least should go immediately with no ifs or buts - what good were/are they ?
I sensed from Rob's radio piece that the next bit of blind hope in the boardroom is that if they keep their heads down for a few weeks all will be forgotten. Not a chance, I for one could not trust them again.
I think it was Yonmon who said that apart from this unholy mess, the fans are fully behind the players and John 'n Jimmy. They must have been training under very unsettling conditions. May they be assured that we, the fans, fully appreciate their professional attitude. Hopefully it will have helped to weld them into an even more one-for-all tight unit and the Stanley young-guns will spectacularly blow Grimsby away t'morra night.

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I think to bring people like Mick Schultz etc into the debate is completely wrong in my opinion.

This whole argument has been directed at DON, RH and EW (in bits). Who as we know are unfit to run a Football club.

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Indirectly you may do one day if the Supporters trust has some say in the running of the club. :)

In many ways I feel sorry for Rob. If he was an employee of a normal business then I suspect he would have walked away long ago. I suspect if he supported a different team he would also have walked away by now. If you hold the position he does for the team you support I think most people would prefer to try and fix it from within.

Rob is being made accountable by many simply because he is the only one who can speak to the press with any amount of eloquence. In most football clubs the Chairman is not only quite capable of doing that for himself, but also quite willing. It's also fair to say that the club's owner would also speak up in cases like this, as the ownership of the club appears to be subject to various opinions rather than fact I guess that rules that one out to.:rolleyes:

I haven't a clue what Rob's qualifications of are doing the job so I can't say if he is capable of doing the job or not. Like any other business the buck stops at the top, Rob is not that person.

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smudgie please show me were mick schultz has been denegrated?:confused:hes a top geezer n sure folk are well aware of that fact, only place i saw him mentioned on this was in regards to he should/must be kept on.:confused:

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I would have thought, Dave, that there would come a point where you would say to your Chairman, "No, I'm not going to say that because I believe it is not in the best interest of the club". Arguably he reached that point when he empathised (his word) with Peter Marsden.

Eloquence??:(:(: Apart from that dubious last statement, I don't think what you say is quite true. As Chief Executive, he should have been a driving force behind the SOS Appeal, especially in the absence of the female co-chairperson. At a very basic level, he should have ensured that the fundometer was kept up-to-date. He should have communicated with individuals who made offers of help and who were seemingly ignored. He should not have made banal statements about "the next 48 hours" etc.

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With all due respect to Peter Marsden the club weren't paying him money which kept a roof over his head or his family fed. I don't agree with the way Rob has dealt with matters, I just think he has got different circumstances to deal with than the others at the top. How many of us have stuck jobs out purely because of the circumstances of our lives and a family relying on us ?

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the only thing I will add is always fight for what you believe in

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I agree 100% with you mate and I would also add we want the hard working staff of ASFC to be SECURE in their jobs and not worrying about how they will pay their bills next month.

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I agree no one wants to be worrying about their job or wages with Christmas looming. Lets hope we can start the New Year (Decade) with a new regime in charge hopefully.

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wonder if mr o'neill has been listening to the interviews that the ex hull city chairman has been giving to sky and the bbc ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8332438.stm

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there is many good hard working staff up yon, along wi players n there staff,who deserve better IMHO.

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I was actually jsut trying to find a link to that :)

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:) In stead of making a new thread ive plonked this here!! 6 days left before our court hearing,But what would we like to see happen at the club,for me its this.. 1, the taxman paid in full!although someone said its been payed yesterday 29th oct by mr khan. 2, meeting between david rob and mrs khan n marsden both david and rob resign although rob is retained at the moment until someone new appointed CE,3,o'neil and ew are paid out ending any link to the club,4,mr marsden becomes chairman ,6, money is made available to pay other debets off,7, a new share issue to be instergated to raies funds for the club and make every fan a share holder with nomore than 30%owned by anyone holder,8,supporters trust set up and running with in 12months.and a honest and open family community minded football club for all to support.. im sure some will agree and dissagree but have your say:)

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mab i go with that pal

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i will back you on that r you reading mr o neil

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seems very reasonable to me, only place i disagree is (2) mab, with respect, don't think Mrs Khan should be at the meeting.:D;)

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Good stuff, Mab, but I don't see why Ilyas shouldn't hold 51% of the shares, even if he doesn't want to run the club on a day to day basis. Democracy is fine, but ownership/management by committee fills me with horror.

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Me too......

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not me

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Another excellent article in the Observer from "Strictly Come Stanley"...

‘Sublime to ridiculous’ - Sport - Accrington Observer

Sums it up to perfection.

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thanks fer the link wyn, very rare i praise the "Press" but they have summed things up very well.;)

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This Article/Letter states in a much more accurate and appealing manner just what we are all trying to say in our own various way's on the Forum.

Mr o'Neil must have read it...probably over and over by now !...if he has then he must surely have grasped the depth of feeling within it, and cannot fail to have made a rapid and in-depth appraisal of any future value he might have as far as Accrington Stanley is concerned..

We all know that 'the only way is up'...and as the writer says this must be 'the Ilyas way !!'

This article impresses me to say the least!!..

'ON STANLEY!!!...ON!!...TO EVEN GREATER THINGS !!'

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YES O.Neill out but for gods sake leave rob heys alone,he was only doing what he was told to do by the previous owner,who was apain in the arse to work for and who,s word was LAW,rob has been with asfc since the bad old days like going to horwich rmi, marine or even knowsley fc on a cold and wet wednesday night, yes he has made mistakes but it goes even further than that up to the very top of asfc,what about all these quotes from mr EW that the club is solvent and we owe nowt to the taxman, rob was employed on a need to know basis,and the former chairman is at fault for all this debt,fact the inland revenue bills were not paid when mr EW was in charge as the amount that asfc now owe to the IR now shows,Rob Heyes has done a hell of a lot for this club under a lot of pressure from the last owners to keep quiet,so give the lad abreak,would any of you lot have wanted the pressure and the job that he had,

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Great read that is.

Iyas way or the HIGHWAY DON, get that into your head!

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[quote=alan7554;758502]....the previous owner,who was apain in the arse to work for and who,s word was LAW,....what about all these quotes from mr EW that the club is solvent and we owe nowt to the taxman, rob was employed on a need to know basis,and the former chairman is at fault for all this debt,fact the inland revenue bills were not paid when mr EW was in charge as the amount that asfc now owe to the IR now shows,....quote]

O'Neil is either a patsy or fool like the rest of us, but it's the cardborad millionaire who remains the obstacle to any change.

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so now mr EW has jumped ship and gone to Chester City FC will he now relinquish all ties with asfc as chester city seem to be going down the pan as well,Mr EW was one of the most stubborn,ignorant,bullying and self righteous person i ever had the misfortune to work with,in every company he has owned his word was law,even in the clubhouse before and after the match the whalley factor was there,doors being sllamed people being frozen out,you cant put all th blame on rob heyes who was at the end of the day just employed by Mr EW,possibly a yes man but then again when confrunted with Mr EW who was,nt.As long as the past and current people are dipping their fingers into the coffers at asfc this club will continue to founder,My thanks go to jase and all the people behind the scenes who have worked their b**llocks of to raise funds for the club but at the end of the day they are all p**sing into the wind unless there is a substantial change of management at the highest level,so give Illyas Khan a chance,i have personally known him for over 25 years and at the end of the day we cant do any worse at the present time,

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Still can't understand why the protests haven't been directed towards Eric Whalley,as it is he and his elected accountants who are ultimately reposible for this debt.As I have said previously,if Dave O,neill wasn't "in the wrong place at the wrong time" as he put it,I feel we would have been in a much worse position. Perhaps a protest at the junction of Whalley Rd & Hyndburn Road,just past the Hyndburn Bridge Pub might be on the agenda?

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Still can't understand why the protests haven't been directed towards Eric Whalley,as it is he and his elected accountants who are ultimately reposible for this debt.

The cynical amongst us may thinking that the cardboard millionaire's garnd plan, if one ever existed, was simply to appear to disappear, but continue to allow as much debt as possible to be run up for as long as possible without any one party being owed so much that it prompted them to pursue things in the court (they forgot that the Taxman is a public servant and doesn't care how much it costs in lawyers' fees). When this cunning business plan reached breaking point, let the company go belly-up, put the club into administration, and then ride back into town to 'save' his beloved club, no doubt to the shouts of joy from the grateful fans. And start the same game all over again for as long as he could get away with it.

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Great article :)

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Here is my two penneth for what it is worth, the one person who I feel for in all this furor is Jack. After all in '68 he pleaded, begged and cajoled the people of Accrington to reform the football club into its present guise. He must be having nightmares, like those of us who saw the death of Stanley in '62. It must not be allowed to happen again, but let the talking start and let there be a natural progression to a new and hopefully brighter future for the club and its players and fans.

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WRONG.
look at the actions and facts.
Rob Heys has no place at this club as chief exec.
He must go.
He has failed us all, he went down to face the tax man with no more than a plea for an extension.
He is meant to be the chief exec!
If he didnt like what was happening behind the scenes or was being pushed - he should have stood up for his principles.
His actions prove he is not chief exec material.
If your point about him being pressured from the top is true, then it means he is a yes man, a sheep, not a leader and certainly not a football league cheif executive.
You live and die by your actions in a public role
His actions have been appalling
He should do the honourable thing and fall on his sword aka resign.
Sadly, it seems he is going to keep a low profile; 'sympathise with the fans' and weed his way back into the club.
We need a new start, with new fresh leaders with new intiatives.
Rob Heys is not the future.