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stanleyhouse

29-10-2009 09:41

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Wasn't aware that the role of the Chief executive was to 'say what he is told to say'.
I thought that the chief executive's role was to advise the Chairman and the board.

Found this.
The role of the Chief Executive..

1. Board Administration and Support
Supports operations and administration of Board by advising and informing Board members, interfacing between Board and staff, and supporting Board's evaluation of chief executive
2. Program, Product and Service Delivery
Oversees design, marketing, promotion, delivery and quality of programs, products and services
3. Financial, Tax, Risk and Facilities Management
Recommends yearly budget for Board approval and prudently manages organization's resources within those budget guidelines according to current laws and regulations
4. Human Resource Management
Effectively manages the human resources of the organization according to authorized personnel policies and procedures that fully conform to current laws and regulations
5. Community and Public Relations
Assures the organization and its mission, programs, products and services are consistently presented in strong, positive image to relevant stakeholders
6. Fundraising (nonprofit-specific)
Oversees fundraising planning and implementation, including identifying resource requirements, researching funding sources, establishing strategies to approach funders, submitting proposals and administrating fundraising records and documentation

Some things he does well, some things he doesn't.
Maybe the job (or the title) is too big!
So let's not blame.

expatriate

29-10-2009 09:42

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Guys. Ilyas here. Just a very quick request. As i said last night, i think the time for laying blame will come, but for now, I dont believe we achieve much by trying to focus on individuals. We are all aware of the deception and the lying. In fact the public record is clear on some important aspects from yesterday. I also think accountability in office is something that is impossible to avoid. it catches up with us all. in this day and age, we all have to be accountable for what we do and say.

I also think - finally - that the actual untruths and lies that were committed or said have had a lot of airing. Rob in particular is the obvious culprit. I have always taken care to ensure that if he is caught, then he knows. I assume however that we MUST look forwards, not backwards. The club is bigger than all of us. Long after we have gone, the club will survive.

Doug	29-10-2009 09:51

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Agreed; a revolution does need to happen. If I read what was in the media is correct and it is to be believed then Rob Hays remortgaged is home (Is this Correct). How many of us have done this for Stanley? He’s allowed himself to be a puppet and a dick, but that’s not a hanging offence.

I have looked to Mr Khan for leadership and he declined saying he was interested in helping the club financially and had no interest in a take over or management. Mr. O’Neil should resign and sell his holding in the club as soon as possible; everyone else should move on and get behind the team who at this moment are showing all of the direction we need to go.

cashman

29-10-2009 10:23

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 758093)

I have looked to Mr Khan for leadership and he declined saying he was interested in helping the club financially and had no interest in a take over or management. Mr. O’Neil should resign and sell his holding in the club as soon as possible; everyone else should move on and get behind the team who at this moment are showing all of the direction we need to go.

the reason Mr Khan does not wish to take oer is as he said himself, he does not feel competant to run a football club, which to me shows great credibility, pity those in control don't live by the same mantra.:rolleyes:

cashman

29-10-2009 10:33

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the direction n what happens is a difficult one Doug to me, NO one is going to make any money running a football club, all i ask is whoever runs stanley is Transparent, Honest, n Competant.

smudgie

29-10-2009 11:27

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 758108)

the direction n what happens is a difficult one Doug to me, NO one is going to make any money running a football club, all i ask is whoever runs stanley is Transparent, Honest, n Competant.

here here, tho i think we all agree EW, Don and RH DO NOT meet this criteria!

Fourth official

29-10-2009 11:35

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 758125)

here here, tho i think we all agree EW, Don and RH DO NOT meet this criteria!

as well as ML, the dynamic Commercial Dept........

Exile on Spencer St

29-10-2009 11:56

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I've had to follow events from some distance (thanks to this web site) and the last few weeks have been like a soap opera, written by someone who likes to torture the audience before killing off the entire cast.
Those who rallied around the cause yesterday, in London and Accie, are heroes. Those who claim they 'own' the club but hid (or fled in the night to Chester) are beyond redemption.

Two issues now facing the heroes is

how to wrest control of the club from those who actually own it (and I still suspect the deadhand of the cardboard millionaire), and
how to get a Supporters' Trust up and running and legally constituted so it has a chance of taking over whilst there is still a league club to save.

The rules that have been dreamt up by the FA League and Govt mean that football business interests come before any other creditor, including Her Madge's Taxman, and it seems evident that any more money put directly into Stanley whilst the current lot control it is likely simply to prolong the agony. There is no guarantee it will go where it is needed.

How can those who want to save the club and bring it under the control of the real fans help best in the next week or so?

Doug	29-10-2009 11:58

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 758108)

the direction n what happens is a difficult one Doug to me, NO one is going to make any money running a football club, all i ask is whoever runs stanley is Transparent, Honest, n Competant.

I don’t disagree Cashy, and answers are needed to a great many questions and there is need of wholesale change at the Crown; but a great dump at this could be more damaging than if most of them stayed, it obvious that the Directors have put large amounts of money in over the years and many probably still does, you have just said that no man makes money from a football club, they don’t so unless Mr. Khan is going to buy out or float the whole of Accrington Stanley for a season are more until new investors could be found we are stuck with those that are still willing to put money in. Mr. Hays on the face of it appears to wish to do that; if he is going to resign because we call for it then he needs to keep his money in is pocket. Mr. Khan stepped in and save us from being wound up “Fact” he didn’t say he was going to bankroll us for evermore, this appears to be on his agenda or he wouldn’t be asking us not to target individuals. Some like Mr. O’Neil have to go soon, other have to stay.

Stanleymad

29-10-2009 12:09

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Shame u didn't attend doug ilyas was asking after u lol

lancsdave

29-10-2009 12:10

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 758093)

If I read what was in the media is correct and it is to be believed then Rob Hays remortgaged is home (Is this Correct).

Thats not what he said is it ? He said properties were being remortgaged, didn't actually say it was his own. Pretty sure somebody has said in the past few weeks that David O'Neill had various properties, including some used by the players.

Doug	29-10-2009 12:55

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 758137)

Shame u didn't attend doug ilyas was asking after u lol

Yeah right Mel :rolleyes: He know's were to get me if he wanted a chat :). I wish I could have been there, I had planned to skip over after lunch if people where getting together, but I only have a 3 hour gap and an hour of that would be travelling.....

Doug	29-10-2009 12:59

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 758138)

Did I misquote Dave; :rolleyes: fancy that…:rolleyes::D I was going to do the same the other day, can’t remember what it was now, no matter….I accept that Dave. But again if Rob Heys was going to put money in he would have to get it from somewhere; it wouldn’t have been out of his wages would it?

JEFF	29-10-2009 13:29

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I don't think that Rob Heys nor David O'Neill nor any of the other Directors have put any money into the SOS. If they had we would have been able to pay the taxman. SOS Fund = £116K, money from PFA = £100K, money from mortgaged property = £100K

lancsdave

29-10-2009 13:30

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 758150)

But again if Rob Heys was going to put money in he would have to get it from somewhere; it wouldn’t have been out of his wages would it?

If staff were paid on the same basis on players it wouldn't be the most reliable source of income would it :rolleyes:

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