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Willie Miller 29-10-2009 16:34

Vigilantes......
 
I would urge anyone to think before taking any action. Graffiti in the club is not on, that is still OUR Accrington Stanley & our ground. Banners can be made that get the message across.....(that can be removed when needed!)

Again, threats to Rob Heys & David O'Neill at work or at home is NOT the way forward. This was reiterated by the messiah himself last night. We want a stonger ASFC in the long term & as long as no man or organisation has 51% then we will have that!

There will be time for protests, believe me, but in the correct manner. We are Stanley;not some Victorian peasants with sticks on a witch hunt!

Get behind the players & be proud that ASFC is in the safe hands of our guardian angel Mr Khan.

cashman 29-10-2009 16:37

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anyone even contemplating vigilante action ARE NOT real stanley fans but HOOLIGANS.:mad:

VALAIRIAN 29-10-2009 16:40

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Top post WM, as you say use the banners and even the songs, but causing damage, will just result in costing the club twice, as any monies spent to put it right, will not go to moving the club forward.

Most of us are annoyed to say the least, but let's not bring more shame on our club. :)

Stanleymad 29-10-2009 16:40

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Blimey that is sad & hope people heed this message & would be the same on this forum too personal insults or threats will be removed also could result in bans. Hope they catch who done it as its well out of order, think the current heads already know the feelings raised by the sensible & orderly way there is no need to get really personal at all, Ilyas also wishes that we calm our emotions & get on with keeping the faith & furthing the clubs future.

yonmon 29-10-2009 16:40

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True Words Willie...Whilst we long for a change for things to be done 'Right and Proper'....then we too must do things 'Right and Proper'...

Too many situations have done untold damage to the Club over the past Months...and the very last thing we need is the slightest whiff of scandal and
wrong-doing !.

I too heard Ilyas' advice last night !...Change will come...but it has to be to the Club's advantage...not it's Shame...'ON STANLEY...ON!!'

Tin Monkey 29-10-2009 16:40

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Where's this come from? Have there been incidents?

Stanleymad 29-10-2009 16:42

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Trouble is certainly with football - too many hoollies think they can jump on the bandwagon & use a perfectly respectable protest to air their criminality, trouble is it can tar us all.

cashman 29-10-2009 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 758217)
Trouble is certainly with football - too many hoollies think they can jump on the bandwagon & use a perfectly respectable protest to air their criminality, trouble is it can tar us all.

if anyone "Has" done owt, anyone who knows em should "Tar" the knobheads that did it.:(

DAV007 29-10-2009 16:48

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plenty of banners and plenty of protest with a big dose of the truth and the facts.

Lets get rid of o'neill and Heys the right way.

Dave O'neill is not my chairman, Iylas Khan is.

Stanleymad 29-10-2009 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 758218)
if anyone "Has" done owt, anyone who knows em should "Tar" the knobheads that did it.:(

Quite agree :D:D

smudgie 29-10-2009 17:18

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Where has this come from???

Ive not heard of any silly actions ???

Doug 29-10-2009 17:23

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If there are any they should be caught and prosecuted. No Questions.

But a good post and a timely warning.

theresonlyoneaccy 29-10-2009 17:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 758214)
Blimey that is sad & hope people heed this message & would be the same on this forum too personal insults or threats will be removed also could result in bans. Hope they catch who done it as its well out of order, think the current heads already know the feelings raised by the sensible & orderly way there is no need to get really personal at all, Ilyas also wishes that we calm our emotions & get on with keeping the faith & furthing the clubs future.

Well said there WM. Any bans would ruin our reputation as the best fans in the country, we are the oldest club to not have any fans banned from any stadium. Putting up a banner will attract more attention than being a thug and graffiting OUR ground.

Billy Casper 29-10-2009 18:26

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YouTube - He's Not The Messiah

Sorry could not resist:D:)

loweiy 29-10-2009 22:04

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spot on willie

MCR ADIM 29-10-2009 22:11

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Great post

ukcowboy 29-10-2009 22:17

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Ive no idea whats gone on, but great post WM...............totally agree

hasyred 29-10-2009 23:44

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whoever as done this r not true stanley fans as a true stanley fan would not cause damage to there own football club it dont make sense

Scott_ASFC 30-10-2009 01:35

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Posted via Mobile Device it would of bin some sad little boy hearing about us on the news and thought it would be fun to do summat like that... True coward i say

JEFF 30-10-2009 11:16

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What has been done ????

maccawozzagod 30-10-2009 14:55

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I agree with every post that has been made about the person who did this.

it was me.

I hadn't intended to do anything and disagree with anybody who thinks it is a good idea. The way it happened was that I had decided i wanted to sleep on the Clayton End as it may (or may not) have been the last time the ground was in that condition. Drunk and emotional I climbed over the fence to make my way to the clayton end. Whilst doing so I looked all around the ground and probably spent quite some time reflecting on everything I had witnessed there over the years. I happened across a can of spray paint and had a moment of weakness. I sprayed 'time to go' in 6" letters across the bit of wall that leads into the Gazelle Lounge. I then went to the Clayton End and tried to get to sleep after texting the first ten people in my phone to tell them where I was - including Dave O'Neil.

I am by no means making excuses for what happened just explaining why it happened.

I have spoken to Mick Schultz this morning and Dave O'Neil to apologise. I have also sent an email to Dave and Rob to explain and admit in full. I have also offered to reimburse whoever cleaned it up and have offered a case of stewards hi-viz vests as further apology.

The matter is now being dealt with by Dave and the police.

I offer my full apologies to all those fans who have acted in a way that hasn't caused any more upset or damage than necessary. It goes without saying that it won't happen again (by me) and I would implore everybody else to continue to act in a responsible and well behaved manner - it will get us nowhere. If members of the OSC and ASSF feel that I brought either organisation into disrepute then I will resign my position (it is only right). Please contact me by email, phone or PM to let me know.

Once again, sorry to everybody who I have let down - including myself.

Rob

CLAYTON RED 30-10-2009 15:09

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Rob you have done what a lot of people felt like doing at the time, its easy to see red mist with the events that took place.

Well done for being honest about your actions, its a pity other people did not come clean, which led you to take such actions.

I forgive you

CLAYTON RED

Wynonie Harris 30-10-2009 15:16

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OK, Rob, you let your heart rule your head and did something stupid, but top marks for being totally honest about it. As Clayton says, it might have been better if others in the club had been as painfully frank as you.

AccyMad 30-10-2009 15:16

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Got to agree with Clayton Red Macca, yes it was bloody stupid to say the least but at least you've had the guts to own up & apologise and have tried to atone for your actions.
I think we can all understand how you were feeling at the time and my personal opinion is that I don't think there is any need for you to resign although that is your decision.

Exile on Spencer St 30-10-2009 15:22

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Were you anywhere near the gents when the words 'time to go' sprang to mind? if so I'm sure a good yuman rights lawyer could sort things out.

VALAIRIAN 30-10-2009 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 758553)
I agree with every post that has been made about the person who did this.

it was me.

If members of the OSC and ASSF feel that I brought either organisation into disrepute then I will resign my position (it is only right). Please contact me by email, phone or PM to let me know.

Once again, sorry to everybody who I have let down - including myself.

Rob

Macca, as a member of both of the above, plus being a Stanley fan and a friend of yours, I feel you have done enough by owning up and by contacting the club. I feel you have no reason to resign from any of your positions.

Minister Onymfo 30-10-2009 16:45

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Isn't about time we all calmed down and started to put this hideous episode in the club's history behind us.

Peolpe are being worked up into a frenzy and normally sensible individuals are saying and doing very regretable things.

The club is safe Ilyas and Peter have seen to that and we are all very grateful for their generosity and dedication to the club. Repay them by behaving like civilised members of the public. Get behind the team, Ilyas, Peter and Dave can discuss the future running of the club and we must get behind them all in encouraging them to make the best descision for Accrington Stanley, not threatening and barracking.

Come on people let's show the world that it is a better place because Accrington Stanley is still around because at the moment alot of folk must be wondering why they bothered helping to save us.

Macca you must be applauded for your honesty and your willingness to accept what may lie in store for you as a result of your actions. I hope you will become a better person because of this, I don't think you are that bad a guy to start with everyone has had a stressful and emotional time because of this but now we must take a deep breath swallow hard and work together to make a better future for our club.

G.F.J.F.C. REDS 30-10-2009 17:28

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well Rob very emotional post you did BUT you vandalised the ground illegally you entered the groud illegally you went too far , no one else has done anything like that and WE ALL feel confused but there are other ways !!! sorry mate it was wrong!!!

VALAIRIAN 30-10-2009 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by G.F.J.F.C. REDS (Post 758604)
well Rob very emotional post you did BUT you vandalised the ground illegally you entered the groud illegally you went too far , no one else has done anything like that and WE ALL feel confused but there are other ways !!! sorry mate it was wrong!!!

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Outback Ozzy 30-10-2009 17:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by G.F.J.F.C. REDS (Post 758604)
well Rob very emotional post you did BUT you vandalised the ground illegally you entered the groud illegally you went too far , no one else has done anything like that and WE ALL feel confused but there are other ways !!! sorry mate it was wrong!!!

He has already admitted he was in the wrong and has apologised to everyone connected to the club, fans, ASSF and OSC. Why put something like the above. Rob is perfectly aware he went too far, he has had the guts to own up to his misdemeanors, however in comparison to what has gone one prior to this, it is minor. Rob is Accrington Stanley through and through, he is always the first to put forward ideas to help with fund raising not just for the ASSF but the OSC as well. As far as I am concerned, the incident should be laid to rest and put in the annals of history. At least he didn't go onto the pitch and damage that, as was done in the past. Let sleeping dogs lie.

VALAIRIAN 30-10-2009 17:57

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With you OO

Fatso 30-10-2009 18:04

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Everybody makes mistakes in their lives; it's how you deal with those mistakes, and atone for them that matters.

To own up, here, to making such a mistake shows a strength of character, and a real degree of remorse for actions carried out. It would have been very easy to have just kept quiet and let it blow over.

Doug 30-10-2009 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Minister Onymfo (Post 758591)
Isn't about time we all calmed down and started to put this hideous episode in the club's history behind us.

Peolpe are being worked up into a frenzy and normally sensible individuals are saying and doing very regretable things.

The club is safe Ilyas and Peter have seen to that and we are all very grateful for their generosity and dedication to the club. Repay them by behaving like civilised members of the public. Get behind the team, Ilyas, Peter and Dave can discuss the future running of the club and we must get behind them all in encouraging them to make the best descision for Accrington Stanley, not threatening and barracking.

Come on people let's show the world that it is a better place because Accrington Stanley is still around because at the moment alot of folk must be wondering why they bothered helping to save us.

Macca you must be applauded for your honesty and your willingness to accept what may lie in store for you as a result of your actions. I hope you will become a better person because of this, I don't think you are that bad a guy to start with everyone has had a stressful and emotional time because of this but now we must take a deep breath swallow hard and work together to make a better future for our club.

Best post I've read all week.....I hope every one takes note.

Doug 30-10-2009 18:13

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Rob I won't repeat what I said in the txt, I hope you get at last 150 hours community service under Mick Schultz.

It takes a big man to do what you did (after the event) and despite being what I said, I sincerely hope that the club can take it on the chin.

Shurm 30-10-2009 18:34

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Hmmm painting on a wall thats terrible I wonder what you get for being negligent with the actual running of the club and nearly getting it closed down twice, thats what has led to passions being this high in the first place. :mad:

cmonstanley 30-10-2009 18:47

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emotions always get the better of us right or wrong it just shows the passion rob has got for the club he has sacrificed more than most for stanley time and effort with the supporters club .weve all done something through passion we have regretted so i think rob should be forgiven.after all it wasnt mindless it was driven by passion.

Chimer 30-10-2009 19:28

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No right to comment on ASSF, but for my money you don't get out of Chairman of the OSC that easily :D

LongLostSon 30-10-2009 19:55

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Rob, there but for a bl==dy long way from Selsey go I. Guess most can be pushed into hearts ruling brains on occassions -it's done now so don't let it drag you down mate.

DAV007 30-10-2009 20:03

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respect for coming on here and confronting your actions.

Pheonix 30-10-2009 21:20

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I think Rob has had the courage to own up for what he has done and will make amends for what he has done, therefore why are we going on about this, lets put it behind us and look to the future with Rob still as the chairman of the OSC and a member of the ASSF. I for one do not believe that anyone else at the moment could have done or will do as good a job as Rob has been doing.

We need all the good people with passion and pride to get Stanley back on its feet.

I for one am fully behind keeping Rob at the forefront of the OSC and as an active member of the ASSF and hopefully a future mover and shaker for getting the Supporters Trust up and running.

cashman 30-10-2009 21:41

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who is going on about it phoenix?:confused: Rob asked fer comments, all i have read whilst not condoning, fully understand how it came about,

simon 31-10-2009 00:10

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Silly,but with full transperency.

Forgiven.

hasyred 31-10-2009 11:11

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rob i know your passion for stanley you did the wrong thing but in life we all make mistakes the things you have done for the club more then make up for this one mistake i forgive you On Stanley On :D

kenny254 01-11-2009 20:55

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Well Mr Russell, in my opinion you are a trespassing vandal, you broke onto the ground and de-faced property you then feel that a box of high viz vests and half harted appologies will make things better. You have been spouting now for weeks about how you and your followers want to save the club, its a good job Mr Hayes and Mr O'Neill have a little more self restraint. You should be arrested and banned for life, I just hope that you are made an example of and that the night you spent in the clayton end is in fact the last time you ever get onto the crown ground again....True fans of Accrington Stanley would never think of doing something like that, and as for casually walking past a tin of spray paint? what a load of garbage.......You'll be telling me next that Whinstanley was stood there gauding you on....:rolleyes:

VALAIRIAN 01-11-2009 20:59

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Kenny, if your post is a light hearted one and meant as a joke, then fine, but if you are serious, then you are talking utter garbage! To say that macca is not a true fan!!!! And where do you get half hearted apology from???

maccawozzagod 01-11-2009 21:00

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no he wasn't Kenny - he was with the rest of the management supporting some fundraising function or other :rolleyes:

lindsay ormerod 01-11-2009 21:05

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Stay put Rob, you are a decent bloke and I know the passion you have for Stanley, I would have done the same for the cricket club, sometimes your heart rules your head. Nowt to be ashamed of, you have owned up and will be man enough to take the consequences. :mosher:

Pendle Red 01-11-2009 21:13

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In the heat of the moment people can do silly things, I don't condone what Rob has done

But at least he had the Balls to own up to it, feelings and tensions have been running high for weeks surrounding the Club, given Rob's passion for everything Stanley and the fact sometimes people make mistakes his apology is good enough for me.

cashman 01-11-2009 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny254 (Post 759427)
Well Mr Russell, in my opinion you are a trespassing vandal, you broke onto the ground and de-faced property you then feel that a box of high viz vests and half harted appologies will make things better. You have been spouting now for weeks about how you and your followers want to save the club, its a good job Mr Hayes and Mr O'Neill have a little more self restraint. You should be arrested and banned for life, I just hope that you are made an example of and that the night you spent in the clayton end is in fact the last time you ever get onto the crown ground again....True fans of Accrington Stanley would never think of doing something like that, and as for casually walking past a tin of spray paint? what a load of garbage.......You'll be telling me next that Whinstanley was stood there gauding you on....:rolleyes:

Well kenny in my opinion you are a silly lass, with budgie seed fer brains, Macca knows i objected to his foolish action as i have told him privatly, he has been big enough to realise this n hold his hand up n take whatever comes,the apology was sincere, still when you grow up, you will maybe have a better grasp of reality.:(

kenny254 01-11-2009 21:21

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If the trespassing vandal had been just a general fan and not the chairman from the SOS fund, would all you people be so quick to accept his apology.... No I think not, double standards.

lancsdave 01-11-2009 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny254 (Post 759442)
If the trespassing vandal had been just a general fan and not the chairman from the SOS fund, would all you people be so quick to accept his apology.... No I think not, double standards.

The SOS fund has a chairman ?

Stanleymad 01-11-2009 21:25

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I too spoke to macca before the post, yes silly yet understandable why, he accepted his punishments and has sincerely opologised. Now its between him and the club. Good job it was a reasonably mild nite the clayton end mustn't of been comfortable lol. So dont think it needs to get personal at all, over & done with.

cashman 01-11-2009 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny254 (Post 759442)
If the trespassing vandal had been just a general fan and not the chairman from the SOS fund, would all you people be so quick to accept his apology.... No I think not, double standards.

once again ya are showing yer immaturity, missing the point completly.:rolleyes:

ukcowboy 01-11-2009 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny254 (Post 759442)
If the trespassing vandal had been just a general fan and not the chairman from the SOS fund, would all you people be so quick to accept his apology.... No I think not, double standards.

Get your facts right prat!................He is the Chair of the OSC not the SOS fund.

Yes what He did was very wrong, but He has at least had the decency to own up and is willing to face the consequences of His actions.................it is just a shame that the persons concerned in almost putting this great club out of business for a second time cant bring themselves to do likewise.

Perhaps Kenny254, when you go in to work tommorrow (I am assuming that you work for the club by the tone of your post) you might point this out to DON et all.

Otherwise, go away, grow up, and try and get a life.:rolleyes:

yonmon 01-11-2009 21:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 759446)
I too spoke to macca before the post, yes silly yet understandable why, he accepted his punishments and has sincerely opologised. Now its between him and the club. Good job it was a reasonably mild nite the clayton end mustn't of been comfortable lol. So dont think it needs to get personal at all, over & done with.

Quite so SM !!.. This constant flow of appraisals, opinions, and condemnations regarding Rob's actions is totally unnecessary !...

What was done was done...everyone has been informed of the facts by Rob!... and the consequences will follow in due course...!!

Until that happens this duplication of what has already been said over and over in his defence or in criticism of his behaviour is a complete waste of time and effort !!....and what is more will serve no purpose whatsoever !!.

kenny254 01-11-2009 21:47

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[Perhaps Kenny254, when you go in to work tommorrow (I am assuming that you work for the club by the tone of your post) you might point this out to DON et all.

Otherwise, go away, grow up, and try and get a life.:rolleyes:[/quote]

Actually I do not work for the club, so don't assume. I know that I will have a job next month....
Hit a nerve because i'm not a follower of Mr Khan have I....

cashman 01-11-2009 21:50

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no ya aint hit any nerve, just demonstrated clearly what n immature little lass ya are.:rolleyes:

kenny254 01-11-2009 21:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 758211)
anyone even contemplating vigilante action ARE NOT real stanley fans but HOOLIGANS.:mad:


You've changed your tune...... :rolleyes:

ukcowboy 01-11-2009 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny254 (Post 759459)
[Perhaps Kenny254, when you go in to work tommorrow (I am assuming that you work for the club by the tone of your post) you might point this out to DON et all.

Otherwise, go away, grow up, and try and get a life.:rolleyes:

Actually I do not work for the club, so don't assume. I know that I will have a job next month....
Hit a nerve because i'm not a follower of Mr Khan have I....[/quote]

Not at all my man! My apologies for 'assuming'.

I just cant stand arrogant gits............simple enough for you to understand I trust?:)

Stanleymad 01-11-2009 21:58

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End of topic No need for further clarification please keep protests peaceful and lawful for best of individuals and stanley. This issue is between the club and macca hope thats the end of momentry madness and lessons learnt for both sides. Closing thread.


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