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Tealeaf

31-10-2009 11:32

Court Hearing 4th November - The Verdict

There are now only two working days for the full HMRC debt to be discharged. In the absence of any statement that is fully verifiable, to the effect that payment has been made between now and close of banking business on tuesday evening, then I will be at the High Court on wednesday morning. Once a decision is reached I intend to get the verdict posted on here ASAP - so it will be a case of watch this space.

Make no mistake - there will be no second, third or fourth chance on wednesday morning. Registrar Symmonds is not going to be messed about any more, so even a minor shortfall in funds received will result in the petition being accepted and the winding-up process begins. I dread to think that the future of ASFC may boil down to banking charges incurred which have not been accounted for in the payment transaction.

The verdict we are looking for is the petition thrown out because the debt is settled. So I suggest you stand by your computers & your phones and get ready to pass on the good news from 10.30 onwards, wednesday morning.

VALAIRIAN

31-10-2009 12:31

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? Hasn't the bill been paid off? Sure I have read it somewhere on here or L.E.T. Thobserver?

cashman

31-10-2009 13:32

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 758901)

? Hasn't the bill been paid off? Sure I have read it somewhere on here or L.E.T. Thobserver?

i heard that, if thats the case Why no public statement to ease fans minds?:(

Stanleymad

31-10-2009 14:47

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 758932)

i heard that, if thats the case Why no public statement to ease fans minds?:(

EXACTLY! Thats what concerns me.

yonmon

31-10-2009 15:44

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 758932)

i heard that, if thats the case Why no public statement to ease fans minds?:(

Would you have expected one or something Cashy??....

Whither Transparency ??.

ps....Couldn't even bring themselves to thank Ilyas and Peter either!!

cashman

31-10-2009 15:50

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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 758983)

Would you have expected one or something Cashy??....

Whither Transparency ??.

ps....Couldn't even bring themselves to thank Ilyas and Peter either!!

no not really, at least tealeaf will update us next week,:rolleyes:

expatriate

31-10-2009 16:47

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Ilyas here. i thought i better post before this thread gets ahead of itself. I was on the road all day today (horrible on the m6 by the way), and just saw email. I sometimes wonder if being so accessible on this forum is a good or a bad thing, but since i have started in this way, i better keep going.

firstly the full amount HAS NOT BEEN paid off. As you know, Peter and I have guaranteed the shortfall, and the situation is therefore as follows:

1. £96,000 has been sent to hmrc
2. I believe that another £100,000 (PFA) will be sent on MOnday

I will speak with the HMRC on monday, and look to make a significant payment on Monday itself, once they have confirmed their receipt and then see how much, if any, we are still short. I am taking a belt and braces approach, and will still call them on Tuesday to see if there has been any slippage between "lip and cup".

In providing you with this update, please all you should note that I am dependant upon information from the club, but I do think this is accurate. You should also know that I am NOT the club, and therefore its possible that they dont condone this information being shared. Given the high levels of anxiety of the past week, I think it worth sharing with you.

I would urge you all to be relaxed about this coming week. I know that is tough, given our previous track record as a club, but as i say, Rob Heys has been totally co-operative, and the information i have posted above is accurate in my opinion.

Ilyas

Kiwi John

31-10-2009 16:54

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Thank you for that Mr Khan.

simon

31-10-2009 16:55

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Thanks for reassurance Ilyas.... Thanks Rob for helping Ilyas :)

Tin Monkey

31-10-2009 17:19

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What a horrible situation to be in..... even now they can't be trusted

Stanleymad

31-10-2009 17:55

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Thanks Ilyas for updating the thread with best of what u know or can presume at this stage. I trust u so shall not worry too much at this stage but do worry for thereafter with the present control.

Doug	31-10-2009 17:56

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So there is still time for the Boards original plan to come together; if the mortgages come through they might need Mr. Khan’s and Mr. Marsden’s assistance.

lancsdave

31-10-2009 18:00

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 759015)

So there is still time for the Boards original plan to come together; if the mortgages come through they might need Mr. Khan’s and Mr. Marsden’s assistance.

What mortgages ? We know Rob tried to re-mortgage his house but the impression was he couldn't do it. What are the other ones ?

cashman

31-10-2009 18:01

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thank you ilyas fer some clarity in this situation, unlike doug i am more than a little dubious about their original plan, if it was actually more than just n idea mentioned.

Pendle Red

31-10-2009 18:01

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 759015)

So there is still time for the Boards original plan to come together; if the mortgages come through they might need Mr. Khan’s and Mr. Marsden’s assistance.

It would only have been seven days after we had been shutdown:mad:

I suppose you could look on it as better late than never:rolleyes:

Doug	31-10-2009 18:09

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 759019)

thank you ilyas fer some clarity in this situation, unlike doug i am more than a little dubious about their original plan, if it was actually more than just n idea mentioned.

No Cashy, I'm not for it at all......I'm dubious about the all bloody thing; the whole issue on both sides of the fence is as clear as pig **** in a puddle. Any one on either side slips between Cup & Lip and its over.

You want me to be transparent; Stop playing bloody games and end it.

cashman

31-10-2009 18:13

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thanks fer some clarity doug, misunderstood yer meaning, pity our glorious leaders are still lacking,in that same clarity.;)

Stanleymad

31-10-2009 18:18

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Wake up doug - its the club thats playing games by not being truthful about what is paid what is owed etc. You are accusing the man of stepping in with the money to pay off the debt that the CLUB OWES! I dont get what u are annoyed at seems to u the club are victims ? ? Thats the impression im getting with your post.

Doug	31-10-2009 18:26

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 759028)

Not at all Mel; I’ve said I welcome Mr. Khan’s offer to save the club and I am grateful Mr. Khan as stepped in, I even sent him a personal email within a short time of this going public. But what I don’t understand is why both parties aren’t’ paying this now rather than keeping it going to the death, one mistake anything from an unsigned cheque to a missing nought and we’re gone.

Both parties are playing each other and have been since this started and its time it stopped.

shakermaker

31-10-2009 18:30

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The only game Ilyas' 'side' is playing is one of transparency; long may it reign. If David O'Neill had bought in to that game back in the Summer the club would be in a much better place right now.

maccawozzagod

31-10-2009 18:32

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 759015)

So there is still time for the Boards original plan to come together; if the mortgages come through they might need Mr. Khan’s and Mr. Marsden’s assistance.

PFA loan of £100,000 means we will have little or no money from now to the end of the season other than gate money and day to day stuff (ie next to nowt) What are we going to pay the wages with?

Directors Loans (Rob re-mortgaging his house for example would have come under this) will mean more money coming out of company coffers on a monthly basis I would presume. And I would also presume that these 'debts' would be repaid before other 'less important' debts.

I could be wrong on both counts - but I don't think so.

I don't want the clubs plans to come to fruition. I want them to fail miserably and have to rely on Mr Khan's money. It is the only thing that may force them to do the right thing by the club.

VALAIRIAN

31-10-2009 18:32

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Too many ifs, whys and wherefores here for my liking! The judge/HMRC MUST know the shortfall, thus they must know how much IK/PM need to pay! To say anything else is a little unbelieveable?? Yes there maybe other monies coming in, but those funds, either go to IK/PM or go back into the running of the club - simple! If I am missing the obvious, then I apologise, but come on are we safe or aren't we?????

VALAIRIAN

31-10-2009 18:37

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 759029)

Both parties are playing each other and have been since this started and its time it stopped.

Spot on Doug ;) :)

Doug	31-10-2009 18:39

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 759034)

In a round about way; this is how I feel.

cashman

31-10-2009 18:39

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way i see it val, only o'neil or rob heys can tell us the answer to that, we know whats already been paid in, we know ilyas has said they are expecting to pay 100K on monday, - thats the 64000 doller question to me. :confused: ilyas has said him n P.M. will make up the shortfall on that basis, so unless the clubs silence is broken, which i very much doubt, as they told us sod all so far, we shall all have to suck it n see.:(

lancsdave

31-10-2009 18:45

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How can anybody pay the shortfall if they don't know 100% what it is ?

Sorry Doug, if you think both sides are playing games and want it ending I suggest you get your monopoly money in the post :)

Doug	31-10-2009 18:49

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 759042)

How can anybody pay the shortfall if they don't know 100% what it is ?

Sorry Doug, if you think both sides are playing games and want it ending I suggest you get your monopoly money in the post :)

I don't quite get that last bit Dave :)

lancsdave

31-10-2009 19:08

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 759043)

I don't quite get that last bit Dave :)

You were referring to them playing games so I suggested some currency you could use to join in :D

To be honest I think it's offensive to accuse anybody who puts money in to somebody else's failing business for no reward as playing games. Would you suggest the same to all those who contributed to the SOS appeal, after all I'm sure with a bit more effort they could have put more in.:rolleyes:

expatriate

31-10-2009 19:20

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Doug. Your comments to me privately, and your comments on the board, and your (frankly) objectionable insults have gone too far for me to remain silent. You insist on assuming that I am "playing" at something. this says more about you, your state of mind, your personality and your own baggage. I have been totally and utterly transparent. If you cannot and will not accept this - and if you have nothing better to do than to cast aspertions even on the most straightforward of actions, then you are really even more of a sorry individual than your posts make out. YOu contradict yourself too many times for this to remain unchallenged.

I have noted here that playing the boards can be a double edged sword, but I have started, so i will continue.

You will next tell us about a grassy knoll, where there is a holy grail, surrounded by chanting freemasons who wish to dance around some cat's guts.

the simple reality, which you refuse to accept, is that the £308 will be paid and that I will make up the shortfall. If you cant, or wont accept that, and still want to equate me with oneil and whalley, then you really have had a lot of sad baggage. The fact i posted when the club remains silent on our arrangements is due to my deep seated belief that this is a club that has been mismanaged and mis run for so long that we really have to change, and we have to challenge all ambiguity and all deception.

and whilst we are at it, i shoudl let people know on this board that Doug's private emails have been just as equivocal. His usual "on the one hand this....on the other...maybe that" seem to say everything and nothing. His congratulatory email to me almost got me to the point of replying by asking him to never send me any emails again. His other "sarcasm" where he assumes that oneil has put in just as much also bordered on being insulting.

finally, douglas, if you continue to harbour these deep seated problems, come and see me. face to face. ask any question you want - but maybe wait till after the deadline next week. i look forward to seeing you. bring along your bag of semantic goodies. i am sure you were very good at school debates. lets see you in real life, not just hiding behind stupid bulletin board one line quips.

katei77

31-10-2009 19:21

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I may b way off here but what IF don still refuses IK/PM offer can the judge except IK/PM payment for the debt?stopping the club be wound up?

Ilyas can you confirm no matter the club wont be wound up.this is no way saying you wont pay as i believe you will 100% but i was asked this question earlier and couldnt answer and its be driving me mad since!

Mr T	31-10-2009 19:29

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Folks and Stanley FANS

PLEASE PLEASE ACCEPT THESE FACTS

Ilyas and Peter are the saviours!!!!

Ilyas again THANK YOU!!!!!!

Unconditionally you answered the call, although you and Peter were never "officially" requested.

Ilyas cannot communiate with HMRC as he isnt "officially" the Club. However I believe a meeting between Rob and Ilyas has now given Iylas the details he requires to save our Club.

Doug, please belive, there was no plan B!!!

What more can I say???

Yes I know, THANK YOU ILYAS KHAN ( and Peter M)

ON STANLEY ON!!!:)

Pendle Red

31-10-2009 19:34

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That is the first positive thing to come from a member of the Board for months:)

ukcowboy

31-10-2009 19:36

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Welcome back MrT...............:)

Mr T	31-10-2009 19:38

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I am trying to observe from a distance!!!

If you EVER want to ask, PM me if you live away or talk to me on matchdays.

I think (correct me IF i'm wrong) that I try to be honest!!!!:)

Tin Monkey

31-10-2009 19:38

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Doug seems to believe that his dissenting voice makes him 'the voice of reason', when really he's just misinformed and plainly wrong.

I too tried hard to see where Ilyas was coming from, as his altruism seemed just too good to be true. However, over the last few days and having heard Ilyas speak on Wednesday evening, I have no doubts whatsoever about who the 'good guys' are.

Unfortunately the internet is full of characters like Doug, but as long as they remain well in the minority, the reasonable and sane people can just get on with things.

expatriate

31-10-2009 19:38

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Katie and Mr T

you are both correct. In the eyes of HMRC i have no "personality". their counterpart is ASFC, not Mr Khan or Mr Marsden. Katie. in the court room, in public, Peter and i said we would meet the shortfall. and that is what we are committed to doing. the only mechanical issue is to figure out what that shortfall is. The delay is not so that any director's mortgages can come through (I can confirm that we are not waiting for director payments), but for there to be a final landing on the PFA, and possibly a small amount from SOS fund clearances. I wish i knew exactly what that amount will be, but I dont. therefore my strategy to remit an amount no less than £100k on MOnday, and then find out what (if any) shortfall remains on Tuesday.

Is that transparent enough ? Perhaps Doug thinks that this is some sort of plan to push the club into administration. Or maybe i am harbouring some deep secret deal with Whalley ?

Sorry guys, I dont often lose my temper, but this thread, and Doug's gratuitously insulting comments went too far for me to remain quiet.

Katie and Mr T please dont think my angst is aimed at you at all. i also hope this answers your questions.

Mr T	31-10-2009 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 759057)

Welcome back MrT...............:)

Never been away (honestly!!!):)

BERNADETTE

31-10-2009 19:42

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As a bystander in all of this (although I have helped the appeal in my own small way) I am amazed that anybody can doubt Mr. Khans sincerity. In fact I would go as far as to say that Stanley are very, very lucky that he was prepared to travel down to London after the way he was so publicly snubbed and insulted about his earlier offer of help.

Mr T	31-10-2009 19:43

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Ilyas,

You have always answers the questions posed!!:)

I hope I too am following your fine example??

Doug	31-10-2009 19:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by expatriate (Post 759051)

I don’t think I actually insulted you personally Mr. Khan; but I do consider your comments tonight to be very off the mark and somewhat unnecessary. But you are right Mr Khan this is a message board and if we choose to express opinions on such media we should be able to take what comes back.

I don’t think for one minute you would let anything happen to this club Mr. Khan, but what I don’t understand is why this couldn’t have been done differently all round.

I will ensure that what I post in future can’t be misconstrued to be inflammatory, but this outburst will not prevent me from posting my opinion on both sides, because that is all it is an opinion and alternative one to the current trend.

I will take your comment on emails on advice; of course I won’t be sending any more; I also disagree with your assessment of the content.

ukcowboy

31-10-2009 19:46

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Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 759061)

Never been away (honestly!!!):)

I know................but it was in apreciation of you sticking your head above the parapet (sp), as no one else from the boardroom seems to want to do! :)

Revived Red

31-10-2009 19:52

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[quote=Doug;759065]but what I don’t understand is why this couldn’t have been done differently all round.[/quote]

Surely you know the answer to that, Doug. If you don't, you should ask the (now sole) chairman.

lancsdave

31-10-2009 19:55

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Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 759054)

However I believe a meeting between Rob and Ilyas has now given Iylas the details he requires to save our Club.

Am I the only one who thinks it strange that a meeting of such urgency and importance was only attended by Rob & Ilyas :confused:

shakermaker

31-10-2009 19:56

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 759068)

Surely you know the answer to that, Doug. If you don't, you should ask the (now sole) chairman.

Chairman? Surely you mean owner, RR. The title is completely erroneous - we might as well call him the Pope - but it's what Dave prefers.

expatriate

31-10-2009 20:09

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OK doug. lets start with this question. are you simply positing a view to highlight what you think might be an alternative ? or do you believe what you post ? For example you state "against the current trend". does this mean you think this is a popularity contest ? my suggestion would be that you actually state what you believe rather than trying to play some sort of authorial judge who can dance above the issues but not actually say anything that can be seen as an honest to god opinion. i would respect you more if you actually said something, then stood behind it rather than trying to suggest that you are somehow the rebel. I note redskin on this board, who has on a number of occasions made some comments that actually express an opinion. the fact it is against my view is brilliant - at least he has the courage to say so and not run for cover by suggesting that his posts are actually just a way to highlight a different opinion. come on doug, grow up. this is a deadly serious subject, not a small town version of x factor. our club almost went under. our directors have been lying to us (all of us,including you). we still dont know how much money we owe to all creditors. Our current chairman may or may not be a director. and he may or may not even own shares. these are the real issues, along with the small matter of almost £500k owed to HMRC

i look forward to your reply, and i look forward to jousting with you once i actually know what you believe.

simon

31-10-2009 20:13

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I have been wondering for a few days if Dougs account has been hijacked by the Don or someone else ???? He is always opinionated but ????

Fatso

31-10-2009 20:34

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Strewth, I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading in this thread. Fact is, without Mr Khan and Mr Marsden we would not have a football club today. We wouldn't have played Grimsby yesterday, and we wouldn't be in the FA Cup next weekend.

To my mind, that counts for a heck of a lot, and the only thing we should be offering Mr Khan and Mr Marsden is our thanks.

The sheer sense of despair there was on Tuesday, when it became apparent that the money would not be in place to pay the Tax Man was overwhelming. The relief the following day when the judge granted the extension, thanks to Mr Khan and Mr Marsden was such a weight lifted off the shoulders it was unbelieveable.

So, as far as I am concerned, I have just one thing to say to Mr Khan and Mr Marsden and that is this; thank you .

Pendle Red

31-10-2009 20:50

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Tuesday night was all about unity in desperate circumstances

Wednesday Night felt like a turning point

Both nights will go down in the History books, now we must look to the future

The Team & Management are doing their bit, The Fans are doing their bit, Ilyas & Peter are doing their bit that just leaves one gaping hole.........

Redraine

31-10-2009 21:18

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I cannot, for the life in me, understand how anyone can possibly doubt, query or criticise Ilya's position at any stage of this sorry saga. It is just beyond belief. I also don't know why Ilyas should waste his time defending himself, as there really is no need to do so. I would think the position regarding the shortfall is crystal clear to anyone not wearing blinkers. i.e., Ilyas will come up with whatever funds are required next week IN SPITE OF the smokescreen surrounding the owners true intentions. It is outrageous that Ilyas is still having to adopt fail-safe strategies in the event that the club yet again do not deliver on their latest promises. Their actions, rather than words, suggest they have been deliberately obstructing our survival. Incredible, I know, but that's the way it seems.

cashman

31-10-2009 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 759088)

now fair do's pendle red,Marcelles done her bit.:D

Wynonie Harris

31-10-2009 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatso (Post 759084)

That counts for EVERYTHING. Ilyas Khan and Peter Marsden have saved our club...as simple as. And the only thanks they've got from the club is a grudging acknowledgement in the HMR&C piece on t'fishy site. And, yes, Ilyas, I know you said we should remain calm, but I'm getting angrier and angrier as I read this thread. OK, O'Neill holds 51% of the shares, but the umbilical cord of trust has been broken with the board (with the honourable exception of Mr T) and things cannot be right with the club until this man has gone.

Doug	31-10-2009 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simon (Post 759081)

I have been wondering for a few days if Dougs account has been hijacked by the Don or someone else ???? He is always opinionated but ????

Your quite right Simon, I am opinionated and not knowing when to shut up as always been my downfall.

Doug	31-10-2009 21:59

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Mr. Khan; I don’t doubt your sincerity, your love of the club or you love of the town. I offer you my unreserved apologies; I hope you can accept them.

expatriate

31-10-2009 22:07

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doug, how could i possibly spurn such a post. yes, of course i accept your apology. there are more important issues to worry about are they not !

maccawozzagod

31-10-2009 22:24

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... and peace breaks out again. :)

simon

31-10-2009 22:31

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Group HUG :):)

ukcowboy

31-10-2009 22:41

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Feel the love :):):)

Sorry couldnt resist!

Outback Ozzy

31-10-2009 23:28

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Ilyas, many thanks for yours and Peter Marsdens offer to save the club. I can understand others when they say, why wasn't this paid last week, however, on reading further into this thread, I can now understand the bigger picture and problem. Marcelle has done the decent thing and resigned, on a personal note, I think Rob should be retained and retrained possibly into the why's and wherefore's of a CEO post. Controversial this may be, but deep down he is Accrington Stanley through and through and has been a misinformed mouthpiece for the owners be they EW or D'On. Time for a change at the top yes, but as Ilyas has said in a previous post/thread, lets get Wednesday over with first. Personally, I am not worried and am glad a repeat of '62 is not on the cards.

cashman

31-10-2009 23:57

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will there be a wednesday if the tax bill is paid prior?:confused:

BERNADETTE

01-11-2009 00:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 759143)

will there be a wednesday if the tax bill is paid prior?:confused:

Maybe if the present board give accurate figures to Mr.Khan And Mr.Marsden as to how much is owing on the debt to HMRC things could be settled before Wednesday. Seems to be that as the truth is being witheld it could possibly get as far as Wednesdays hearing.

Kiwi John

01-11-2009 02:28

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The real issue now is; Do you rename the ground as 'Khan/Marsden' or 'Marsden/Khan'?

Perhaps "KHANDEN?

sparkie

01-11-2009 06:33

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or Khans Ma's Den!!!!

Stanleymad

02-11-2009 09:38

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Something just isnt adding up & one can only presume that ew has every intention of winding up the club [even fans litterally] my worry is what can he do now presumably imo in spitefulness, cos Mr Khan & Mr Marsden are now guarantors for the debt which im sure they will sort if told the correct amount owed, to which i wonder if that has or is the case.

AccyMad

02-11-2009 09:49

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I was told exactly the same thing Jeff, it seems they never wanted the club to be saved but had their plans thwarted at the last minute - thank God! Anyone still think there shouldn't be a witch hunt against O'Neil & EW?

JEFF	02-11-2009 09:53

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O'Neill has stated that he gave Whalley £100k to pay the taxman in 2008. How is he ever going to get that money back? If Stanley are not wound up he probably has no chance and if Stanley are wound up then any monies and assets removed from the Club before the Receiver gets there could be kept and sold to raise money for himself.

Tealeaf

02-11-2009 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 759515)

Surely if this is true, then there must be legal ramifications for all involved?

Extremely worrying if proved :eek:

Certainly if true. Company assets are deemed protected from the date of the petition, not the date of the court hearing, never mind the arrival of the liquidators. Any attempt to dispose of those assets has very serious consequences. I do not really think that EW would be crazy enough to hang around the club offices with a swag bag waiting for a call to strip the place out. If he was up there, I have my own theory why.

JEFF	02-11-2009 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 759518)

If he was up there, I have my own theory why.

It's not a case of IF he was there, he WAS there along with Big Frank.

Bagpuss

02-11-2009 10:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 759524)

It's not a case of IF he was there, he WAS there along with Big Frank.

"Swear word" :mad::mad::mad:

Stanleymad

02-11-2009 10:27

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Why Tealeaf???

Stanleymad

02-11-2009 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 759511)

We best keep an eye on ebay then :rolleyes::enough:

cashman

02-11-2009 11:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 759511)

its about time O'Neill stated the "Bloody Truth" about everything that went on, seems to me like its sod the fans, how can i best get out of this mess.:mad:

shakermaker

02-11-2009 16:03

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Hang the bastards.

Redraine

02-11-2009 16:30

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 759607)

Hang the bastards.

Doug wouldn't let me.

Nickelson

02-11-2009 16:42

Re: Court Hearing 4th November - The Verdict

On the next batch of updates for FM2010 im moving EW off the Legends Lists...

shakermaker

02-11-2009 16:46

Re: Court Hearing 4th November - The Verdict

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickelson (Post 759617)

On the next batch of updates for FM2010 im moving EW off the Legends Lists...

Thems be fightin' words.

maccawozzagod

02-11-2009 17:50

Re: Court Hearing 4th November - The Verdict

correct Simon.

FACT that Eric and Frank were there (I dont know this but it could be easily proved

FICTION/RUMOUR the reason they were there

lets all be careful about what is said please

katei77

02-11-2009 18:10

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when was the winding order1st issued was it june time?

Bagpuss

02-11-2009 18:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 759652)

FACT that Eric and Frank were there (I dont know this but it could be easily proved

If they want to make another visit this Wednesday they might have some company:rolleyes::mad:

Greeny

02-11-2009 21:13

Re: Court Hearing 4th November - The Verdict

I understand from Rob,that Eric pops in from time to time to deliver post that he has received.

ukcowboy

02-11-2009 22:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 759725)

I understand from Rob,that Eric pops in from time to time to deliver post that he has received.

You forgot to add 'and sign the cheques' :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Mick	04-11-2009 09:43

Re: Court Hearing 4th November - The Verdict

Just had a phone call from court and its now final the case has been discharged and Accrington Stanley are now SAFE:D:D
10-40am

Wynonie Harris

04-11-2009 09:54

Re: Court Hearing 4th November - The Verdict

Ditto. Cheers, Tealeaf. My cup runneth over! :D

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