Monday 10pm
 

I am afraid no update from me as of right now. The club has gone silent. Rob Heys remains accessible, but he has no decision making authority, this is now in the hands of oneil.

I am a hopeful individual, and will be up for a while in the hope that oneil will send some sort of message regarding the next step. at the very minimum, if he has no answers then at least say so since i do not think that HMRC will give us any more chances. Peter Marsden was in contact with Oneil until about 2 hours ago, and since then its complete silence.

the only other piece of hard news that has come my way is that Eric Whalley is still the authorised signatory as far as cheques are concerned. So after all this time of oneil being "chairman", and "owner", it turns out he has no authority with the bank. I suppose these revelations should not be a shock to me, but I do wonder, at this late hour, what on earth has been going on.

As always, i promise to come back if anything of substance occurs.

Lets all try to stick to the public pages of accy web where possible. I dont mind private messages where you might be concerned about security, but right now i think we are all served best by the most transparency possible. Lets "walk the walk" as well as talk it. This club belongs to us all. This club is important to us all. And ultimately, this club must survive us all.

Ilyas
(10.10pm monday)

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Time to start praying ?

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Thankyou for the update

if EW is still the owner does this mean you are able to open talks with him at all

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Thank u so much for trying and to u the most must find this utterly hard and heart breaking. Least u and us can say we tried and wanted to try, seems the head or heads of asfc just dont want to least meet half way or even quarter way. That itself is the hardest thing to bear.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

been doin that fer weeks SamF:eek:

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Thanks for the update Ilyas. Lets hope you get the required information before too long.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Now have a huge idea what 62 was like but was it this bad upto the d day ?

Re: Monday 10pm
 

David O'Neill................

YouTube - The Archies - "I'm Just A Puppet On A String"

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Please explain Ilyas, how it can be in the hands of O'Neil if Whalleys signing the cheques?:confused: sorry if ive misunderstood.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Not as i recall, was only 14 at time. this to me is far worse, more acess to media now, kept much more in dark back then.:(

Re: Monday 10pm
 

O'Neil has the information that Ilyas needs.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Obviously o neil was just the new face behind eric seemingly all a con job and ew could not let go of the reins completely till he got his own value.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

good question Cashman. I have seen that all immediate actions have been authorised by the board, and since June, as far as i can see, all decisions have been made by oneil. It was also oneil who came to see me way back in April when he asked me not to compete with him to buy eric's shares, but to let him buy the shares, and for me to support him.

I guess we could speculate about whether oneil is independent or not (and i had to laugh at Willie's post just now), but I think I would be even madder than I am now if I let myself chase each conspiracy theory.

I therefore want to stick to facts, and act on confirmations, not theories. At this point, Oneil is chairman of the board, and the club is run by its directors. I need to know exactly what plans (if any) the club has put in place to meet the inevitable shortfall that we are now facing of £102,000. Peter Marsden has been chatting with Oneil, who then has gone AWOL. I had assumed we woudl have at least some sort of landing today, and I remain full of hope that oneil is just having a late dinner and will get back to Peter soon enough. More than that i dont know. But I am very very worried.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Im sure he does definately but why is he not sharing it if he cares so much about the survival of the club? Thats what we all want to know including ilyas.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

If Ilyas is very very worried i think we are atm hanging to ASFC by the skin of our teeth!

can you confirm the total the taxman has got in hard cash from thr club not what has be sent but is in the account atm

also do you if PFA loans can be use for any other payment apart from players wages?

Re: Monday 10pm
 

lol ilyas how can anyone eat at a time like this lol. Has Peter been assured by o neil that he will return the call and answer where and when the rest of the money be paid? Probably not or u would of said but presumably Peter is as worried as we are.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

The whole thing smacks of arrogance... Its our club cause we own it. Anyone else wanna know what is going on then get your chaque book out.

Well, D'On/Mr Whalley, the Cardboard/Paint shop mafiosi.

Stanley is owned by the fans, not an individual & if we ride out this week, then you will see fan power in action!

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Yes indeed its extremely worrying and 2 people are at least blocking the way.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

All we can do is what a great man says regulary "Keep the Faith" and hope that faith is not blind and come 48 hours time we still have a Club to Support

Re: Monday 10pm
 

bang on willie, been wanting to say that meself fer ages, hard to think i didn't. karma sent.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

:mad: I think this is the right wording "IMPLICATED"1 a : the act of implicating : the state of being implicated b : close connection; especially : an incriminating involvement
2 a : the act of implying : the state of being implied b (1) : a logical relation between two propositions that fails to hold only if the first is true and the second is false

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Thanks Ilyas I hate to think where we would be if you had'nt got involved.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

katie, i can confirm that £206,000 has been sent to the taxman and has been received. I dont think any other money has been sent, so it cant have been received.

I dont know the detailed rules about how PFA money is to be used. I would guess (and it is an educated guess, but not fact) that it is quite restricted. The PFA will deal with the club, and I assume oneil knows the real score on that question. Its a question I would love to know the answer to as well.

we are down to the wire here. I am going to log off now. if anything happens a bit later on, i will come back on. i promise you i will try to keep as close a dialogue with you all as is possible.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Thanks ilyas your help is much appreciated hope a response is achieved tommoz.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

oh yes, i forgot to say to stanley mad. I do not believe that oneil made any promises or commitments to return peter marsden's calls. Peter is very very worried, more so in fact than at any time in the past. He will keep trying oneil for a while yet, but i have to assume that we will not get any feedback tonight.

I wish i could say something to provide comfort to you all. But i dont know what to say right now.

night night,
Ilyas

Re: Monday 10pm
 

thanks ilyas, unfortunatly i will be out of the game tomoz, but wish ya well.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Sorry to miss quote and thank u for correcting that for me thats quite important to have it put right :)

Re: Monday 10pm
 

late tuning into accyweb tonight - not liking what I'm reading - another sleepless night - have we got the offices, ports & airports covered just in case ?

Re: Monday 10pm
 

I only hope that O'Neil and whoever else involved from the present board,behind the scenes in this whole fiasco ( Mr Khan & Mr Marsden excepted) are.... frantically trying to figure out a way to sort out this mess and fast...all this despite seemingly ignoring the best efforts of two aforementioned and very genuine men who are fighting hard to try and aid the clubs very survival....:mad:

To be met by, what seems to me ( and in my humble opinion ) Contemptuos silence,on the part of O'Neil and others within the present make-up of the club's present board, only serves to vindicate all the opinions levelled against them by others on this forum....

Just less than 36 hours now to meet the FINAL DEADLINE.....NO MORE REPRIEVES from the high court. The words spoken by the judge presiding last Wednesday said it all...LAST CHANCE..FINAL...:mad:

To the Mr O'Neil and present board / and any other party involved in all this (Mr Khan and Mr Marsden excluded) I only have one thing to say....

If you, the present Chairman and board and all others involved behind the scenes, who may at this time seem invisible or anonymous,... allow this club to fold, then your actions/inactions throughout this whole sorry shambles will probably catch you all up...By NO means do I personally mean that as some sort of vague or veiled threat,

NO. By the last paragraph, I mean that,should the worst come to the worst,should the club be wound up on Wednesday morning, I would assume that once the official receiver is called in to preside over the winding up of this club, he/she will probably uncover whatever skeletons linger inside the closet, and then matters will be in the hands of officials who will leave no stone un-turned.

Your actions / inactions, be they present chairman,board member or whoever else involved in this sorry fiasco, will probably come back to haunt you all with a vengeance.

To quote Mr O'Neil...." leave the sleepless nights to me !!!"

With all that in mind, will O'Neil et al involved behind the scenes,(other than Messrs Khan and Marsden, although they too are probably losing sleep along with all genuine fans of this club) sleep any easier tonight or tomorrow????

Re: Monday 10pm
 

What appears to be happening here, is similar to what's happened in the past. Study the history of Exeter City.

Two would-be buyers of ECFC came in to buy the club from its aging owner chairman. He agreed to sell.

The two then brought in a celebrity backer, Uri Geller.

It then turned out that that the two who were going to buy the club had insufficient money, the Geller walked out and the two were charged and later convicted of fraudulent trading.

The supporters trust was then given the shareholding by the owner, whose shareholding was either totally or largely intact.

This happened at the cusp of points deductions for going into a CVA. The supporters trust successfully fought against the points deduction but the club, already relegated to the Conference, still spent several years there.

Read the history recent of Exeter City if you want advice. Contact Supporters' Direct, get yourselves properly organised if you still want a football club to support.

Why do I know about this? I was the journalist who investigated the goings-on at Exeter City during the club's darkest days and exposed the lies and deceit there. I was the journalist who recieved abusive calls from Uri Geller during my Sunday lunch with friends in Cornwall. I was the journalist who went into my editor's office with evidence of fraud and told him that if he was prepared to publish it, I wouldn't go straight to the police with it.

I'm no hero. I'm not an Exeter supporter. I was born at Accrington Hospital, my grandparents lived in Canal Street and Sparth Road, Clayton-le-Moors, and I started out in Woodside Road, Huncoat, and went to the local primary school.

But, I do have a sense of what's right and wrong. And I do feel there's a lot wrong in Accrington. If I can possibly do anything to save the club, I will.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Interesting post Devon thanks, I just can't believe there is no real urgency to get this sorted and no real communication between the club and Ilyas/Fans. Think I said this a few weeks back but the club (owners) don't deserve the loyal fans they have or appreciate what they have done.

Re: Monday 10pm
 

Enough is Enough, we have little over twenty four hours to save our Club, yet the powers that be or not be are still playing mind games, power games........

Please just let common sense prevail and tell the full extent of what is left to pay and what needs to be done to save "OUR CLUB" that's right not your Club "OUR CLUB" as in belongs to everyone as in those who have dug deep over the last eight weeks, as in those who have sweated and toiled over the past forty one years to bring the Club back from the depths only to see it kicked from under them.

Please do the HONOURABLE thing

Re: Monday 10pm
 

sorry Google Page Ranking but its appears that atm HONOURABLE is the last thing on EW/D"ON mind that is infact if they know the meaning of the word at all!